Subject: SMML26/11/97VOL012 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- INDEX 1: Re Plans Wanted 2: Re HMS Barham 3: Re: Big E / SMML Opinion Poll 4: Re: Big E / SMML Opinion Poll ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: witsie/ken mckelvy Subject: Re: : Plans Wanted Which cruisers and in what scale? The following are all in 1:192 scale: 1. HMS Curacoa David MacGregor (N.A. Ough) (I don't know if this is in WW1 or WW2 rig.) 2. HMS Chester Maritime Models 3. HMS Cochrane Maritime Models 4. HMS Aurora Maritime Models You can also go to the National Maritime Museum for practically any cruiser you want. Within some limits, they'll also scale the drawings down for you although I believe it must be a multiple of four and they'll charge you for this. Easiest to order in 1:192, then go to a good copy center and reduce them yourself. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Dave Carter Subject: HMS Barham Hi John, First, thanks for the favourable comments.. a spontaneous round of applause is always very much appreciated by us 'ard working lot over 'ere! >> As regards the sternwalk << Yes, we have that pic but the wash appears to come up to the level of the sternwalk. At main deck level there is a pale band which could be light reflecting off the sternwalk roof. Also, barely visible, are two very thin vertical pale lines meeting a horizontal line just above the wash. Could these be part of the sternwalk? The portside view you mention in company with Malaya does indeed show the port side but of course, the bow is obscured by Malaya, so we were wondering if there is a clear shot showing the whole length anywhere. >> the portside scheme at that time. According to this same source, the UP mount was replaced by "two 0.5 in. machine guns" (p.53). Hope this helps. << This contradicts R.A. Burt in British Battleships 1919-1939 who states that it was a quad Pom-Pom. Looking at that starboard side photo in the Ensign book, the mount doesn't look big enough to be a Pom-Pom but there again cannot be positively identified as a 0.5" although I think this is where I'd put my money. Many thanks for your interest John, and the time you have taken to reply to us. Cheers, Caroline and Dave Carter http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/avenue/xdt22/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Chris Hughes" Subject: Re: Big E / SMML Opinion Poll Hi Greg, I don't know whether my postings are getting to you, I had one returned today! As regards the poll, I have no problems if the group wants to open up, but I was under the impression that it kicked off due to the interest in the Big E! I back your initial reaction of "if you want a group for your own pet topic, then go and create one!!" - yours seems to have worked. I would like some info on the Big E's aircraft - has anyone been mad enough to try superdetailing them? If so, any hints or tips on such things as open canopies and stores" - or am I completely barking mad?? Also, I fancy opening at least one hangar deck door - anyone done this? I've seen at least two articles in FSM over the past few years on the Big E, one on the Tamiya kit and the other on that superb 1/72 scratch build. I've also seen the 1/100 model in the Smithsonian in Washington DC... I've been in touch with White Ensign, so will be ordering up the brass and decals sometime. Regards, Chris Hughes IPMS(UK) 6389 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Greg Subject: Re: Big E / SMML Opinion Poll Hey Chris, Sit Back - Grab yourself a coffee - I feel a novel coming on!!! First of all, My Pet Topic is anything that Floats - Thats why the list is so cool for me. I really don't mind what people are talking about here, From what I can see so far, the people on this list are very passionate about what they do, And its a very even debate so far, there are some that think we should be plastic only (Because of Seaways/Shipways - This was my point when I voted yes to Plastic Only) and there are others who want it to be open, cause they are mainly Plastic modelers who might want to try wood one day, and we do also have a few woodies here already who are just keeping an eye on how the other half live. I Basically am very flexible to whatever the majority wants. And Ken McKelvy wrote: >> As you are in favor of restricting membership further, I would also like to know your definition of a "Modern" vessel is. << Firstly, I am not in favour of restricting numbers, it was a question I put to the list after it was suggested to me, and the subscribers voted a very definate NO! Therefore, the list will remain unrestricted in that aspect until the subscribers feel subscriptions are getting out of hand. I Have been asked to describe Modern - well, Not Ancient I Guess. I Think it was David Hathaway that was worried about not being able to Talk Titanic if the list was classed modern, well they way I see it is that the Titanic was born from the Modern Era - It carried reciprocating engines, and I suppose all Vessels that carried coal/oil/steam boilers/pistons etc... etc.... would be classed as "powered" hence, modern! When was The reciprocating engine invented -1880? Well, I guess from there on is what I (meaning me only) would class as "Modern" in Shipping terms. As far as Titanic goes - she is always welcome here! The Big E was the reason I started this all - I was just so frustrated at the lack of info out there on her - And I was receiving a heck of a lot of questions. The first few issue's, the thread was meant to be about The Big E, but since then, all of the people with questions disappeared, and she has not been mentioned much since. Please come back:-) Superdetailing the aircraft is a great idea if you have the patience and ability. I turned up some extra tanks and missiles for my Tomcats, and tried to open up a canopy or two (Not really successful, perhaps aftermarket vacu-formed plastic replacements might be a good idea for some manufacturer out there?) I also opened some of the nosecones of the craft in the hangar bay, and stuck figures nearby simulating repair circumstances, I also tried stretching some sprue to make nose radars for some of the EA-6B's and Tomcats. This worked quiet well! And those hangar doors - leave em all out, cut out No1 door and scratch build yourself a hangar bay! Your ship wont be complete without it, Its a big kit, there's plenty of room for one - you will regret it if you dont! Greg P.S. I hold the record for the longest letter posted so far - and probably the least progress on the models too! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume