Subject: SMML16/01/98VOL061 shipmodels@wr.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- INDEX 1: 1/350 Enterprise resupply ship? 2: Re: Ballot 3: Haze Gray - USS Missouri 4: Re: Ballot 5: Re: Wish List 6: Big E- Helibrass / WW2 Anti-Aircraft Weapons set/B-Res kits 7: Re: Ballot 8: Re: Ballot and USS Missouri 9: Ballot 10: Re: USS Missouri 11: Ballot ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Terry Sumner" Subject: 1/350 Enterprise resupply ship? I'm thinking of modeling my Big E being refueled/supplied at sea. Does anyone know of any suitable ships one could build/convert to the supply ship configuration in 1/350 scale? "If you're not making any mistakes, you're probably not building anything." Terry Sumner IPMS 35079 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: James Corley Subject: Re: Ballot >> I am interested in post W.W.II subject only. I think the ballot should classify by period and nation. << Well, are we limited to a "Top 10" list? #10 USS KIDD DDG-993 Why DML didn't issue this variant I'll never understand! #9 GEARING/SUMNER FRAM Multiple configurations and nations #8 TAN YENG DD Taiwan's KAGERO with USN weapons! #7 COLOSSUS/MAJESTIC CVL MINAS GERIAS, 25 de MAYO, VIKRAANT #6 COLONY class CA RN, India #5 LONG BEACH CGN-9 #4 BALTIMORE CA/CAG many, many possibilities! #3 SALEM CA #2 ESSEX CV/CVA/CVS/CVT At least 12 distinct modifications #1 NIMITZ CVN Each ship was commissioned in a different configuration, allowing for 8+ unique models Just my opinion, I could be wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: montreal@usit.net (Jon Warneke) Subject: Haze Gray - USS Missouri >> I'm using Floquil paints on the MO...their "haze grey" looks awfully "blue" to me. I'm usually not a real stickler for exact paint matches - I'm mostly concerned with contrasts and having things "look right", but I don't remember hearing anything about "blue" when reading descriptions of Haze Grey...is this color right for this time period (end of WW2)? << Actually, this color is one of the few they got right. Haze Gray, by it's Munsell code 5PB 5.7/1.6 is a blue color, with a little grayness to it. The way this color was derived is that a certain amount of white paint was tinted with a certain amount of blue tinting material, and the resulting colors was as such. The Musell code shows that this color was in the mid range of the PB colors (5PB), about midway in the hues (5.7), and low in the contrast (1.6). The Floquil color is fairly close to being correct for this, as is their Ocean Gray, but their other colors, according to the Munsell codes provided by Alan Raven in PSM 1997/3, are incorrect. Jon Warneke REDBOZO6 sends ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Gary Au" Subject: Re: Ballot Hi Greg, Thanks for your respond. My dream kits are: 1/700 Kirov 1/700 Kara 1/700 Slava 1/700 Wasp 1/700 Nimitz, Enterprise, etc. Well, I cannot have those 1/350 big guy otherwise they will sleep with me on my bed at night. The problem for Hong Kong is there are not enough living space. Beside, I think 1/700 is the scale affordable to me if they were produce with Resin. Happy Ship Modeling Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: TANewell Subject: Re: Wish List Let me first say that I know that some of my wants are currently available as resin kits...but I'm sure that I will never be able to afford much more more than $200 for a single kit (no offense to our resin kit manufacturers...more power to you), so here's what I would like to see in injection-molded: 1. 1/350 Queen Mary or Queen Elizabeth (still love those big liners!) 2. 1/350 HMS Hood 3. 1/350 USS Arizona 4. 1/350 USS North Carolina 5. 1/350 HMS Rodney Gee, I guess I've settled on 1/350 as my "constant scale"... Tim Newell ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Dave Carter Subject: Big E- Helibrass / WW2 Anti-Aircraft Weapons set/B-Res kits Hi there, Just a thought to you guys out there building your Tamiya Enterprise, I'm sat here bagging up ASW, ASR, AEW and HC-4 1/350 Seakings with their photoetched brass sprues... the GMM Enterprise set, I THINK (we're o/s Loren... an order coming your way shortly!!).. does not provide the rotors etc, probably due to the large area of brass taken up by the parts... therefore, why not, I said, provide the etched brass separately if required...particularly if you've bought the extra aircraft sets... the brass would be in packs of 3 for £2.95 Each one of these sets is 2.25 inches across in 5 thou brass, so you can see that 3 of them in a pack is pretty good value for money (like we make rock-all profit on them with post free shipping thrown in!) Each "set" consists of 5-Blade Main and 6-Blade Tail Rotors, Tail Stabiliser, and Undercarriage sponson struts. Please E-Mail me, Caroline, or Dave Carter, if interested. BTW, 3 x 1/350 Seaking sets inc aircraft and etch £5.92 if anyone wants to go about it that way. Cheers... BTW, the 1/700 RN AA Weapons set (based on the 1/350 HMS Hood kit's set) has just materialised... all I can say is 1. Get your magnifying glasses and brightest lamps out! 2. Make your reservations NOW with the local psychiatric unit... 3. Avoid runny superglue.. go for a medium viscosity for parts assembly on these else the bleeding stuff tracks everywhere! We just sat and assembled the final products (I cocked up my set of 4-Barreled Pom-Poms by losing a section of rail.... somewhere!) NOT recommended for the beginner! However, they slotted together beautifully and are unbelievably realistic. BTW, re. the B-Res Suffolk, in addition to taking Rob Mackie's pretty sensible review/ build advice, this new set of photoetched AA Weapons (£2.94 for 2 x 8-barrelled Pom-Poms, 2 x 4-Barrelled Pom-Poms,3 x 0.5mg machine guns) combined with the White Ensign 1/700 Sheffield set at £3.82, and the WEM 1.700 Pre-1950s set at £2.97 (to provide doors, hatches, rails, ladders etc), will provide a vast array of detail for improving this kit. One point that has been missed here by everybody, and also with the B-Res Belfast, is that the Walrus is cast in 1/600 Scale,straight off the Airfix kit, NOT 1/700 Scale, as are a variety of other parts.. the most important of these to note is that the crane assembly is also 1/600 Scale(!). That is why this kit, built out of the box, (IMHO) does not look right. If you want in-scale cranes, for the Belfast and County, you need the cranes on that WEM 1/700 Sheffield brass.... this stuff can also be gotten from Pacific Front Hobbies if you're a regular with Bill anyway. and by the way, in response to Graham Walker's postings and others, we have produced our own WW2 County Class cruiser masters (HMS Sussex.. TOTALLY original..) also a 1/700 HMS Edinburgh (Belfast's sister.. also totally original), both will be going into production in weeks, and will include their own individual brass detail sets. If you want in-scale Walruses (or Walrii??), you really need the WEM 1/700 Airstrike Walrus (set of 3).. the Sheffield brass already has Walrus parts on it. BTW, tomorrow, we will ship these AA Weapons to those of you who I know have ordered and waited so patiently for them. Hope this didn't sound too much like a sales drive, but, at the end of the day, it's part and parcel of letting the modeller know what's out there and how to use it... "We're pushing the envelope here, of what the human mind can stand"... quote Dave after our afore-mentioned photoetch assembly marathon!! Cheers again, Caroline White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/avenue/xdt22/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: BChaucer@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Ballot I am not interested in WWII, I prefer pre WWI US Subjects. My list USS Brooklyn USS Oregon USS Langley Some of the WWI and preWWI US Subs Ships from the period Civil War to WWI Some of the post civil war Monitors Regards, Bradford Chaucer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Ronnie Hiatt Subject: Re: Ballot and USS Missouri >> I'm using Floquil paints on the MO...their "haze grey" looks awfully "blue" to me. I'm usually not a real stickler for exact paint matches - I'm mostly concerned with contrasts and having things "look right", but I don't remember hearing anything about "blue" when reading descriptions of Haze Grey...is this color right for this time period (end of WW2)? << Tim, I don't know if this helps or not, but, before the USS North Carolina was painted in her current "camo" colors, I went aboard Her in Wilmington NC, (several times), even from a very long distance you could see Her quite well, She definately looked "light blue!" Re: Ballot USN-WWII (any large scale/plastic) "Sumner Class" Destroyer (any large scale/plastic) North Carolina (any large scale/plastic) Gato/Balao Class Submarines ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: LAX ET Subject: Ballot Here's my wish list of ships. I would like to see any of the new generation cruise ships done in 1/350. I would collect the whole set. My nickel's worth Dale G Elhardt Lakewood CA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: USS Missouri >> I'm using Floquil paints on the MO...their "haze grey" looks awfully "blue" to me. I'm usually not a real stickler for exact paint matches - I'm mostly concerned with contrasts and having things "look right", but I don't remember hearing anything about "blue" when reading descriptions of Haze Grey...is this color right for this time period (end of WW2)? << Sorry to say that Floquil's USN paints are pretty far off, in general, and their consistency isn't great, either. For a while, their haze gray was too green, so the notion of it looking too blue is interesting. That said, however.... There was a large difference between early and late war USN colors using the same name. The early colors were based on the purple-blues of the 1929 Munsell Book of Color. About 1944 (not bothering to check references at this point), they shifted to neutral grays--simple mixtures of black and white--again based on the 1929 Munsell Book of Color, due to the shortage of blue pigments. Thus, while your Floquil haze gray may be correct for the early war period, it probably isn't for the later war period. John Snyder ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: Graham Holmes Subject: Ballot If there is one thing I enjoy more than making models, it is letting everyone know what new ships I want to see. What a wonderful opportunity for an unrestricted list, I hope someone keeps a tally. If manufacturers are listening, the first thing I would say is please don't duplicate efforts. We can't afford everything, and I buy a lot of things in part to ensure the continued health of the industry and my local hobby store. In other words, in the remaining 40ish years of life I have left(hopefully), I have maybe 50 years of modelling yet to complete, and I still want more. Here goes, by scale, but not by preference: 1/350 HMS Sheffield RN Vittorio Veneto HMS Glory 1952 HMS Aphis HMS Cavalier HMS Daring HMS Gambia HMS Ark Royal 1940 HMS Wessex 1/700 HMS Swiftsure La Gloire La Fantasque HMS Ark Royal 1977 HMAS Shropshire USS Oregon City HMS Cavalier HMS Legion HMS Trafalgar 1945 USS Midway HMS London 1944 HMS Hermes 1960 RN Zara HMS Renown 1945 HMS Unicorn 1945 HMS Vengance HMS Wessex 1946 Weapon class destoyer KM Leipzig Georges Leygues 1944 There's a few for now, maybe more later Graham Holmes ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume