Subject: SMML21/01/98VOL066 shipmodels@wr.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***NOTE*** My apologies to all subscribers for the late arrival of volume 66 of the SMML. Some line upgrades in the local area took a little longer than expected to complete, for our Australian subscribers, I only have to say one word, "TELSTRA". The grids were switched back on this morning and a flood of postings came through, so at least we have extra large SMML as compensation for you! Sorry once again for any inconvenience caused by the delay! Greg (Listmaster-SMML) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- INDEX 1: Re: Spruance colors and dreadnoughts 2: New member 3: Ship Listing 4: Re: Interior color: Spruance-class, Perry-class hangars 5: Re: Interior color: Spruance-class, Perry-class hangars 6: ballot - 1/350 Fubuki class 7: 1:32 PT-109 8: Kombrig 1/700 Sevastopol and Petroplavloskv 9: Noted Speaker at the US IPMS Nats ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Percy, John" Subject: Re: Spruance colors and dreadnoughts >> Subject line pretty much says it. What color is the interior of a Spruance-class DD or Perry-class FFG? I'm working on the new (?) Academy/Minicraft 1:700 Spruance. I'll try to do a review when I'm further along. << Les, I've actually done work on the USS Kidd, a Kidd class DDG, which is essentially an AAW Spruance class DD. I've seen Spruances from the docks, and I can tell no difference in colors, so this is what I know: in 1/700 class the only interior I can think of that you can see is the hanger - which has a two-part scheme. It is medium/navy gray on the walls from the floor to about 6' up (head height). From there up, and on the ceiling, its an off-white, slightly darker than white. If by interior you mean corridors, rooms, etc, well, I've been on 4 different Aegis cruisers, and none had the same paint scheme/colors, so I'd say just pick something that looks good to you. Re: some early dreadnoughts >> Id like to see some of the early dreadnoughts come out in kit form, I am currently doing the HMS Iron Duke 1:600 from Airfix, its not bad, but i like 1:350 scale better.... I have done the 1:350 SMS Emden (Revell i think), its tiny compared to my 1:350 Academy Titanic.... but a few German dreadnoughts, like the nassau, Goeben, or even Dreadnought herself would be very appreatiated by modellers.... What are your thoughts? << Ordrazz, another dreadnought that you might consider (if you can find it) is Glencoe's USS Oregon. This is a really snazzy kit (at 1/225 scale, I think, makinging it a foot long or more). Every build up of this kit I've seen has been gorgeous - if you can get a copy of Kalmbach's Building and Detailing Model ships it has a lot of pictures of it. Another you might consider is Iron Shipwrights Maine at 1/350, but its expensive. I've heard of someone doing a HMS Dreadnought but I'm not sure who. Hope this helps, Good luck, John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Percy, John" Subject: New member Hello all, I've just joined the list. I've recently 'come back into the fold' of ship modelling after a long hiatus. I like to do all kinds of subjects, and I look forward to the conversations on this list. Most recently I've been working on a Tamiya 1/700 HMS Nelson and a Fujimi 1/700 New Jersey. The Nelson is a nice model. Goes together nicely, well detailed, and is very accurate. Plus, its one of the most distinctive ships out there - all 9 16" guns are forward of the superstructure. The only special thing I did with it (so far) is to try and replace the modeled in light AA (2 pounders) with GMMs 20mm AA guns. Boy, was that a mistake. It was my first attempt at photoetch, and I've discovered that I'm too clutzy, my fingers to wobbly, and my eyesight too poor to attach these things. From a distance, it looks ok, but up close the guns and shield are definitely not straight. Still, it isn't too bad. Not to be daunted, I tried to do the same on the New Jersey, since it has so many 20mm guns and I had plenty left (Nelson used about 8 of them). Unfortunately, things went even worse with the NJ. So bad, in fact, I'm going to use the entire model for parts. Sigh. Needless to say, I'm going to work in bigger scales from now on. A 1/426 Arizona and 1/540 Forrestal are the next in line. Anyways, I've a few questions for you all: 1) Whats your favorite type of glue to use for general construction? My classic testors tube is about to run out and I think I'd like to try something new. And how do you apply it? Brush, toothpick, etc? 2) What do you like to use for rigging radio lines, flag lines, etc? Thanks, John Percy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Jeff Herne" Subject: Ship Listing Bravo Zulu on a brilliant idea, I can't for the life of me figure out why someone hasn't done this before...anyway, I started to write in my subscription request, thought it would be better to drop you a note directly so you know who I am. I'm in the midst of writing a series of warship books entitled Warship Perspectives. The first title is Fletcher Gearing and Sumner Class Destroyers in WWII, and is due for release in mid-February. THe second title is Cleveland Class Cruisers due out in early June. I have yet to announce the 3rd and 4th, but one will be a USN camouflage book. I am co-authoring a book with Alan Raven on RN camouflage, and he is publishing the Perspectives series. Look for several other titles in the series from several well-known authors (me, I'm the rookie). The books are geared for the modeler, not the academic, so there's lots of pics, line drawings, and camo patterns...all the good stuff. My only wish is that writing a book was as easy as building a ship! Take care, and thanks. Jeff Herne WR Press ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) Sender: "Joseph W. Divar" <110055.3477@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Interior color: Spruance-class, Perry-class hangars >> Subject line pretty much says it. What color is the interior of a Spruance-class DD or Perry-class FFG? I'm working on the new (?) Academy/Minicraft 1:700 Spruance. I'll try to do a review when I'm further along. << Les, Being an SH-60B pilot, I've spent some intimate time in "both" platforms. The interior color is white. Almost any shade will do since smoke, grit, fuel, salt, hydraulic fluid, water and other debris will have caused layered weathering in any hangar while at sea. The overhead lagging is white as well. Regards, Joe & Mary Divar ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Mark Knowlton Subject: Re: Interior color: Spruance-class, Perry-class hangars >> Subject line pretty much says it. What color is the interior of a Spruance-class DD or Perry-class FFG? I'm working on the new (?) Academy/Minicraft 1:700 Spruance. I'll try to do a review when I'm further along. << Hello Les, The interior of the Helo hangers is an off-white, almost cream in color for the bulkheads and overhead. There is also equipment inside that would mostly be steel gray in color, like fans, and other things. The hatch leading to the interior of the ship is Haze Gray and any kind of refueling apparatus is purple. Mark Knowlton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Procladius@aol.com Subject: ballot - 1/350 Fubuki class Fellow ship modelers, In recent years my ship modeling interests have centered on the Imperial Japanese Navy 1919-1945, using the 1/700 waterline series. However, I would like to model some IJN DD's in 1/350 sometime. I am aware that there are a couple of resin kits of Kagero class DD's in 1/350, but what I would really like to see in that scale is a Fubuki class DD, preferably injection molded, like the Tamiya Fletcher. In my ultimate fantasy, perhaps a series of kits to cover the three groups of this class as built, as reconstructed in the 30's and as modified during the war; or perhaps aftermarket parts to use in conversions. I am aware that a resin manufacturer announced some 1/350 Fubukis, but I do not know if they have ever been released. just my two cents worth! Charles Watson ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Mitchell Subject: Re: 1:32 PT-109 Scale Ship Modeler ran a 2-part series on detailing the Lindberg PT-109 back in Fall/Winter '79 (Vol 2, Nos. 3 and 4). Paul R. Mitchell White Plains, NY mailto:prmitch@ix.netcom.com mailto:prmitch@juno.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Dave Carter Subject: Kombrig 1/700 Sevastopol and Petroplavloskv Hi guys, My UK contact is collecting a batch of 1/700 Petropavloskv and Sevastopol pre-dreadnought battleship kits from Russia this week... at £24.00, as well as Kirovs (£32.40), and Poltavas at £24.00 I know I've got some of you on back-order or back interest already and I'll contact you when they arrive.. if there's anyone else interested, please let me know a.s.a.p. Cheers Caroline White Ensign Models,Gardeners Cottage,Cowarne Court,Lower Eggleton, Ledbury,Herefordshire,HR8 2UF,U.K. Tel: 01432 820403 Fax: 01432 820830 http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/avenue/xdt22/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: montreal@usit.net (Jon Warneke) Subject: Noted Speaker at the US IPMS Nats Hi Everyone, The noted author and historian, Alan Raven, has asked me to let everyone know that he will be attending the US IPMS Nats in Santa Clara, and will be giving a seminar on Friday, July 3 on Royal Navy camoflauge in WW2. His associate, Jeff Herne, will also be giving a seminar on US Navy camoflauge in WW2, and both will be available for a question and answer session following. It's looking to be quite a show. Jon Warneke Iron Shipwrights ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume