Subject: SMML26/01/98VOL071 shipmodels@tac.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- INDEX 1: NAVISMAGAZINE 2: Market Query 3: Market Query 4: Re: Market Query 5: Re: camo color chip cards 6: pre WW1 submarines ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Gene Larson Subject: NAVISMAGAZINE Paolo Pizzi wrote: >> All of this is what you get EVERY MONTH by subscribing -- << A couple question regarding the publication. What happens to "back issues"? I tried to print the article on the Fletcher construction and the text is fine but the photo printing is so poor (on HP laser printer) that they are useless for reference. I guess I am of the "old school" type that likes to have hard copy to reference later when working a project. What provision has been made to accommodate referral back to "old articles"? The subscriber might not know at the time of the publication that an article will be of interest to him in a year - or longer. Gene Larson Nautical Research Guild, Inc Alexandria, Virginia mailto:genenrg@Naut-Res-Guild.org http://www.Naut-Res-Guild.org "A non-profit, tax exempt, international membership organization dedicated to maritime research and accurate ship model building." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Dave Carter Subject: Market Query Hi John, From a marketing point of view, we would advise caution.. we have been selling the Floating Drydock paint chips for US Naval colours worldwide for a number of years, and in that time, have probably sold no more than 30... of course we have far fewer US Navy modelers than RN modelers in the U.K. I feel that yes, you have the avid scratchbuilder, the avid paint mixer with their collection of G10s and B30s in little bottles... however, from our experience, modellers would prefer, if given the choice, a nice, well-engineered, easy-to-put together kit, and the "Shortcut" approach of having a pot of paint, ready mixed, sitting in front of them! We also have a set of matched chips here... for every RN colour but Mountbatten Pink! We have looked at exactly this idea for the RN Colours, but have stepped back from such a move... although the Best of British to you all if you do decide to go ahead with this project. We'll come and compare chips at this year's Nationals!! Cheers Caroline White Ensign Models,Gardeners Cottage,Cowarne Court,Lower Eggleton, Ledbury,Herefordshire,HR8 2UF,U.K. Tel: 01432 820403 Fax: 01432 820830 http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/avenue/xdt22/ Don't mind my husband Dave, he's just a smart ass through and through!!!!!! And you have to wonder what kind of woman would marry such a man???? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Dariusz Lipinski Subject: Market Query >> With all the currently-developing information on WW2 naval camouflage colors, Randy Short and I are considering marketing a set of paint chips matched << I would be definitely interested. I think it's a great idea. Darek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Mark Knowlton Subject: Re: Market Query >> With all the currently-developing information on WW2 naval camouflage colors, Randy Short and I are considering marketing a set of paint chips matched directly from the 1929/42 Munsell Book of Color, which was the standard upon which all USN paints were based and for which Alan Raven has provided RN references. We also have a number of actual paint chips from which to provide exact matches. We would propose to package logical sets of chips (for instance, the USN purple-blues, USN greens, etc.), along with suggested mixing formulas using readily-available model paints which Randy is preparing. Modelers would then be able to mix their own paints to accurately match their required camo colors, testing the mix against the paint chips. We propose to begin with USN and RN colors, but are pursuing leads to match Axis naval colors also, and would like to have the first sets available at the IMPS Nationals this summer, as well as by mail-order at that time. << John, I for one would be very interested in such an endeavor. I was wondering what you thought of the current USN WW2 colors by Floquil? Mark Knowlton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: SantMin Subject: Re: camo color chip cards >> Our question: is there interest out there in the naval modeling community? << I, for one, would be interested in having these color cards. In fact you can mark my subscription down right now. The set offered by the Foating Drydock is nice but very limited. There is one problem, however. I feel that actual color matches are of little use to modelers unless it is STRESSED that they will appear way too dark on a model. For a realistic look all colors have to be toned down, and the smaller the scale, the more toning required for a scale effect. I wish you well with this project. Bob Santos ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Ron or Julie Hillsden" Subject: pre WW1 submarines I am looking for drawings for an Electric Boat design 19A or B circa 1910-1911(?) I have a general arrangement and can deduce most of the ship from that and a bunch of photos, but the stern has me defeated. An aft tube was incorporated. It's outside the pressure hull, between and above the shafts. Not a common arrangement in its day. Any advice/suggestions appreciated. Maybe someone has the sections for these or a similiar Electric boat design? My subs were built at Seattle as the Chilean Iquique and Antofagasta, but became HMCS/Ms CC1 and CC2 at the outbreak of WW1. Ron in Victoria B C ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume