Subject: SMML27/01/98VOL072 shipmodels@tac.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- INDEX 1: Navismagazine.com question 2: Re: RN Paint Chips 3: Re: Market Query 4: Re:Camo color chip cards 5: Printing jpg's 6: NAVISMAGAZINE 7: Re: colour camou chip cards 8: Re: Floquil colors (was Market query) 9: Great Titanic Modelling Site 10: WWII Tribal Class Destroyer Camoflage Colors: HMS Matabele ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Paolo Pizzi Subject: Navismagazine.com question >> A couple question regarding the publication. What happens to "back issues"? I tried to print the article on the Fletcher construction and the text is fine but the photo printing is so poor (on HP laser printer) that they are useless for reference. I guess I am of the "old school" type that likes to have hard copy to reference later when working a project. What provision has been made to accommodate referral back to "old articles"? The subscriber might not know at the time of the publication that an article will be of interest to him in a year - or longer. << All issues will be kept on server, unlike with paper magazines all articles will be available, no need to buy back issues. We are also considering the addition of search features. Navismagazine.com For Sea&Air enthusiasts and modelers http://navismagazine.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: witsie/ken mckelvy Subject: Re: RN Paint Chips Caroline: >> We also have a set of matched chips here... for every RN colour but Mountbatten Pink! << Really? Would it be possible to obtain examples? If you could repro them cheaply, with reasonable acuracy, I'd be very interested. I'm not concerned with absolute accuracy -- simply something that's a fair representation. Ken McKelvy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: witsie/ken mckelvy Subject: Re: Market Query John: I think your idea is a noble one, but I also fear that Caroline is right in her caution. What you're contemplating represents a large amount of work, and, unless the ship modelling community expands drasticly, there won't be enough return to reward your efforts. Check into the costs of production first and balance this against the price you can ask. I'll buy, but you won't get rich from my purchases. Best of Luck, Ken McKelvy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: John MacDonald Subject: Re: Camo color chip cards >> Our question: is there interest out there in the naval modeling community? << Emphatically yes! Colour samples from the Munsell reference would be quite well received. Not everyone has an eye for determination of hue, chroma, reflectance, etc. John MacDonald ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Richa5011@aol.com Subject: Printing jpg's >> I tried to print the article on the Fletcher construction and the text is fine but the photo printing is so poor (on HP laser printer) that they are useless for reference. << This is actually a function of the resolution of the image being printed. Remember that .JPG images (which are the de-facto standard format on the internet) are only 72 DPI....whereas you printer is printing at least at 300 DPI. This is one of the concesions made to using the internet. The way to improve this is to download (a feature found in better browsers) the image from the page as a .jpg and then take it into Corel, Photoshop or similar programs and increase the image resolution to match you laser printer's capability...this will greatly improve the quality of the image. One caveat, is that images that come over the internet and printed on a laser printer, will never be as high quality as image published in books. Nat Richards ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Dave Carter Subject: NAVISMAGAZINE Hi Gene, >> A couple question regarding the publication. What happens to "back issues"? I tried to print the article on the Fletcher construction and the text is fine but the photo printing is so poor (on HP laser printer) that they are useless for reference. << For my own part, I create a new folder on my "D" Drive (which I could call "NAVIS Fletch Build") for example, and save the text.. I save each of the photographs to the folder, then where the photos are linked through e.g. different directories, I change the source code to enable me to view the photos within the text if I'm feeling really determined, otherwise I just save each of the photos I find within the file I created... it is NOT as convenient as having a book or magazine I feel.. (ever got resin dust into your keyboard?) However, I feel both media have their own particular set of advantages. >> I am of the "old school" type that likes to have hard copy to reference later when working a project. << Use the printed text and archive your pics in the way described.. e.g. my article on HMS Newcastle was about 1.0Mb. Our D Drive is used purely to archive photos, articles etc and is 1.0Gb,therefore it is going to be take a lot of research and web articles to fill that up... >> What provision has been made to accommodate referral back to "old articles"? << Indeed, this was a big worry of mine.. Paolo assured me that all archive material would be available, as he has unlimited web capacity. Cheers Caroline White Ensign Models,Gardeners Cottage,Cowarne Court,Lower Eggleton, Ledbury,Herefordshire,HR8 2UF,U.K. Tel: 01432 820403 Fax: 01432 820830 http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/avenue/xdt22/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Dave Carter Subject: Re: colour camou chip cards >> There is one problem, however. I feel that actual color matches are of little use to modelers unless it is STRESSED that they will appear way too dark on a model. For a realistic look all colors have to be toned down, and the smaller the scale, the more toning required for a scale effect. << Bob, You make a very valid point, and one we have argued for a long time.. with all the obsession about getting exact colour matches with the original colours (O.K. for your 9/10 Scale Titanic I guess!), scale effect is being ignored by most.. I feel the correct colour contrast is actually of greater importance in 1/700 Scale than an exact colour match. Of greater use to the small scale modeller would be a pot of the appropriately coloured paint, matched to the original chip, with "tone-down" instructions for scale effect... for 1/96, 1/700, 1/350 and 1/1200 Scales etc.. obviously, this would fill a much needed niche in the market... the same could be done with a set of colour chips from you chaps out there... provide those chips, and indicate how much white would be needed for a correct scale effect... >> I wish you well with this project. << Yep, Good Luck to you all! Cheers Caroline White Ensign Models,Gardeners Cottage,Cowarne Court,Lower Eggleton, Ledbury,Herefordshire,HR8 2UF,U.K. Tel: 01432 820403 Fax: 01432 820830 http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/avenue/xdt22/ Don't mind my husband Dave, he's just a smart ass through and through!!!!!! And you have to wonder what kind of woman would marry such a man???? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Floquil colors (was Market query) Mark Knowlton wrote to ask my opinion on the Floquil naval colors. I, and an number of other knowledgeable folks on the subject, have found that they are mostly not accurate. A couple of the colors (can't tell you which at the moment) are ok, but the others are quite a bit off, generally being too much toward the green or yellow rather than the correct purple-blue. In addition, from my own past experience with Floquil paints when I was custom-painting model railroad locomotives and cars, I am also concerned with a decided lack of color consistency; I don't know that this problem has carried over into their naval colors, but the fact that most are badly off to begin with doesn't ease my mind. For the rest of you who answered my query, thank you; we'll keep everyone posted as regards our decisions to proceed and schedule. John Snyder ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "John L. Bishop" Subject: Great Titanic Modelling Site Hi all, If any of you are interested in modelling the Titanic, I highly reccomend the following site: http://www.flash.net/~rfm This details Roy Mengot's Titanic Wreck Diorama.For the rest of us mere mortals, check out http://www.flash.net/~rfm/MODELING/guide.html for a really nice article on correcting deficiencies in the 1/350 Academy kit. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Michael Eisenstadt Subject: WWII Tribal Class Destroyer Camoflage Colors: HMS Matabele Folks: I'm trying to find some info concerning the camo scheme worn by the WWII era Tribal class destroyer HMS Matabele in 1941. The Profile Publications monograph on the Tribal class destroyers has a drawing of her port side scheme as worn in 1941--a three tone early Admiralty disruptive pattern. I have a photo from the National Archives dated October 1941 confirming this scheme for the port side. I am, however, looking for info on the pattern on the starboard side at this time. Since HMS Matabele and Ashanti wore the same port side camo pattern at this time (Matabele's in three colors, Ashanti's in four--I have photos from the National Archives which verify this) it is possible that Matabele's starboard scheme was the same as Ashanti's starboard scheme (except, again, with fewer colors). Can anybody help to verify/disprove this with photos or references? Thanks! Mike Eisenstadt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End Of Volume