Subject: SMML23/02/98VOL099 Fecha: lunes, 23 de febrero de 1998 11:04 shipmodels@wr.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- INDEX 1: Idea? 2: Re: Idea? 3: Replenishment at sea 4: Re: 100th issue 5: Re: 100th issue 6: More Seahawk Info - AKA Greg's Huey!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: McKellar Subject: Idea Greg, I was wondering if if might be helpful for each of us to let the rest know where we are and what ships are available to photograph for modeling references. For example, I'm just north of Boston - we have the Costitution, Cassin Young, Salem, Massachusetts, Albacore, Lionfish, a couple of PT boats all in the area. I've photographed each of these ships for my own interest but I'd be happy to make copies or take specific pics for a fellow modeler. I'd guess others would be will to do so as well Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Greg Lee (Listmaster - SMML) Subject: re: Idea Hi Mark, Great Idea! I am not sure I can Help to much, unless somebody's building an Aussie ship, of which I have heaps of pics, and if I don't have a detail, its only an hour away! But I have lots of pics of Missouri, New Jersey, Midway, Independence, Constellation, Enterprise etc.etc..... already snapped! So If anybody want's em, No Problems! Greg (Listmaster - SMML) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Terry Sumner" Subject: Replenishment at sea Let's surmise for a moment that I wanted to put my 1/350 Enterprise in a diorama where she was being replenished at sea. Does anyone have any knowledge of exactly what kind of ship could be used for the supply ship in 1/350 scale? Is there at least a ship model out there that could be used at least for the hull to get started? Also, any suggestions as to some decent photographs of refueling a carrier at sea? Book recommendations? Terry Sumner IPMS 35079 "If you're not making any mistakes, you're probably not building anything." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Rand100@aol.com Subject: Re: 100th issue Greg, You're doing great. I can't think of a thing to change. Is there or is there going to be an achive. Thank you for all your work!!!!! Rand Chilton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Greg Lee (Listmaster - SMML) Subject: Re: 100th issue Hi Rand, I was going to put up a SMML Homepage, but I am finding the List actually takes up heaps of time as it is without having to maintain a page as well, and when Rob Mackie told me that WARSHIPS was expanding considerably, and he would be honoured to have SMML aboard, I seized the opportunity. The actual link is already in place at: http://warship.simplenet.com/smml.htm And just as soon as Rob has a chance to scratch himself, the entire back-catalogue of SMML will be online for everybody to snoop through. Eventually It will become a subject searchable archive. Do yourself a favour - Stop by for a look! Greg (Listmaster - SMML) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henry Subject: More Seahawk Info - AKA Greg's Huey!! The recent dialogue on the Seahawk was interesting and brought to mind a concern I heard a number of years ago when the first H-60 kits appeared on the hobby store shelves. I don't remember any of the facts except that someone mentioned that the Seahawk kit was not an accurate depiction of the SH-60. Apparently the basic physical configuration of the Seahawk differs from the other H-60 configurations. I have not been able to confirm that situation nor have I been able to determine what the difference(s) are. Anyone else aware of this situation?? I think helicopters are OK, but I don't loose sleep over them. In addition I did managed to find out the following information regarding the Navy variants of the H-60. I was surprised that Greg was looking for a comparison of the Sh-60B with a SH-60J. That is the Japanese variant I believe and may be similar to the US Navy's SH-60F. Anyway this may get a bit long but I would like to discuss the following variants: SH060B, SH-60F and the HH-60H. As I understand it the SH-60B is located aboard any ship that is equipped to handle this helio, except the aircraft carriers. The SH-60F is located aboard the aircraft carriers. The HH-60H as I understand it is located aboard the carriers and may be the replacement for the H-3 (I believe that is the Sea King) Like I said I'm not a helio type. The SH-60B is equipped with the towed MAD gear. I think it may similar to the gear I have seen on the Seasprites. Anyway the gear deploys behind the helio while it is in flight and "flys" just above the surface of the ocean. The operator is located behind the co-pilot (left seat) facing forward and watching whatever on his console. There are 24 Sonobouys located on the left side of the helio facing outboard. They are pnematically deployed from the helio. Sorry forgot to ask the configuration. Was it 4 rows and 6 columns or 6 rows and 4 columns?? Probably the latter. But will check. They are 5in. in diameter. Also presume they are behind the AW operator. There are two pylons. One on each side. The outboard station can carry the AGM-119B(Penquin) or a rack of 4 AGM-114 (Hellfire). Inboard station can carry either the Mk 46 or Mk 50 Torpedo or a Fuel Tank. Same configuration on each side, except there is a certain allowance to mix and match depending on the mission. The SH-60F is equipped with a dipping Sonar (I think someone had mentioned that the SH-60J used a dipping sonar). The sonar looks like a scaled down 50 gal drum and is deployed through a whole in the floor of the helio at about the CG. Understand that some movement may be allowed when the sonar is deployed, but not much or not very fast!! There are also 12 Sonobouys located just forward of the whole for the sonar. These are located in the floor also. I suspect they are a gravity feed system or whatever you would call something that falls out of the chopper. Again the AW operator has a console located behind the co-pilot and faces forward. I don't know if the this variant has pylons. It may, but only is used to carry fuel tanks and only on the inboard station. The HH-60H is a sort of gunship/utility helio located on carriers. Not sure about the other ships. Something else I will try and get the answer. Currently is only uses a 3 barrel .50cal Gatling gun(GAU-17) located in the right side door. I guess the same stand can be used to hold an M60D. One use of the Gatling gun is to blow up mines that have been located. And of course it can carry people and I would guess that it is used for plane guard duties. There are plans to add more capability in the next couple of years. It also has pylons and they are currently used to carry external fuel tanks on the inborad stations only. Weapons being considered are the Hellfire and Stinger. BTW there is also a pod located on the bottom of the Seahawk. Don't know exactly where it is located or what it looks like, but it is there. Its possible that is at least one difference from the Army and Air Force H-60's. Sometime in FY 99, there is supposed to be an SH-60R coming of the line. It will encompass the good things from both the SH-60B and 60F and replace both of these variants. If it works there will be only one configuration eventually flying around the fleet. Sorry for the long discussion. I just hope it is fairly accurate and of some interest. Any questions or concerns or comments please get in touch. v/r HBlecha ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume