Subject: SMML16/03/98VOL120 shipmodels@wr.com.au --------------------------------- ---------------------- POLL RESULTS ----------------------- Results are still coming in, so I have decided to delay the results for another day - sorry for any inconvenience caused. Greg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- INDEX 1: Re: 1/700 Arleigh Burke 2: FORRESTAL instruction STILL needed!! 3: RMS Titanic 4: two messages 5: Blatimore class CAs 6: Yamto colors 7: USS Quincy and other web sites 8: USCG "Eastwind" 9: Re: The Model Police - a cautionary tale. 10: Re; Subs 11: GMM destroyer/cruiser set ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Gary Au Subject: Re: 1/700 Arleigh Burke Skywave just released the 1/700 Arleigh Burke. Is it for the Flights I version only? And is there any book/plans/drawing/photo available for Modelers on the Flights II version? In fact, how many version are there for the USS Arleigh Burke Destroyer? And what are the major difference in outlook? Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) Subject: FORRESTAL instruction STILL needed!! Sender: "Joseph W. Divar" <110055.3477@compuserve.com> Shipmates, Still looking for instructions for the Revell kit. Please help me, Revell doesn't answer any of my three letters for help and I don't have a current kit with a good customer service phone number. Anything, xerox instructions or Revell point of contact would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe Divar ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Chris Hughes" Subject: RMS Titanic Hi Greg, Sorry I've been quiet for a while, I've been reading all the newsletters though! I've been commissioned by a friend to produce a pen and ink profile drawing of the Titanic. Does anyone have any pointers to scource material that I could use? I really need a side view so that I can measure up and start drawing! The White Star House Flag and a ship's crest (if there was such a thing) would also be useful. TIA Chris Hughes (CJM.Hughes@BTInternet.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Joanne Sloan Subject: two messages I'd like to post two unrelated messages: I. Re: card models. To those familiar with card models, are any of these in 1/700 scale? II. Kits for sale. I have the following surplus kits for sale: 1. Skywave SW-23, 1/700 Military Base. 2. Kobo Hiryu C-2, 1/700 Chin-en (old Chinese battleship). 3. Hawk, (box scale) Coast Guard Cutter (WPG 31 Bibb). 4. Artitec, Minesweepers. 1/700 scale Dutch minesweepers, Dokkum and Alkmaar classes. (Missing the Jan van Amstel, which I built.) Contact Mark Sloan (msloan@sprintmail.com) with questions/offers. Thanks for SMML, which I'm enjoying very much. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Les Dorr Jr." Subject: Blatimore class CAs Buttner1@aol.com wrote: >> Am looking for a waterline model of the USS St.Paul(Baltimore Class)heavy cruiser. Where should I look.... << Not waterline, but Revell is supposedly bringing back their 1:500(?) USS Helena in the next batch of SSP re-issues. Haven't seen this kit since I was a kid (too many years ago!) but as I remember, wasn't too bad except for the 40mm guns (rectangular barrels!) and 20mm (molded into the deck. I recall the 8" guns and turrets being especially nice. To waterline the kit, take a dremel tool cutting disk or razor saw and cut off the lower hull near the waterline. Works well for me. Les ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Fredrik Tholander" Subject: Yamto colors Thanks a lot for your help on the Yamato, Greg! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: BSteinIPMS Subject: USS Quincy and other web sites >> Anyone have any titles of books containing good photgraphic info on the above ships. I know the Salem is a museum ship in Quincy, but that is a little far from me here in New Zealand otherwise I would visit. << One of the best resources for ship modelers is the Nautical Research Guild's web site at: http://www.naut-res-guild.org. You will find links to many interesting places, museums, naval memorials, and such. Included in this listing is the "U.S. Naval Shipbuilding Museum and USS Quincy". Another web site of interest to modelers and researchers is "Haze Gray and Underway at: http://www.membrane.com/~elmer/navy. Aside from the main content, you'll find links to many interesting sites. And lastly (but not leastly) you might try "Seaways' Ships in Scale" magazine's web site at: http://www.seaways.com/index.html for all of the many links they offer. (as well as subscription information and content of the magazine itself) Bob Steinbrunn Nautical Research Guild Minneapolis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: KDur597268 Subject: USCG "Eastwind" >> Revell currently markets a kit of the Treasury class cutter ROGER B TANEY and the cutter/icebreaker EASTWIND. Both are old kits from the fifties and are about 1/300 scale. Both can be built into outstanding models, particularly as Gold Medal Models has just released a special sheet of photo etchedbrass designed specifically for these two kits. Using this new sheet from Loren Perry (GMM) the kits can be brought up to the current state of the art. << I own a copy of a very similar kit - Revell's WAGB "Burton Island", also in 1/300. Is this the same kit as "Eastwind"? It sure looks similar. The box says it. one of 6 of the class, was launched in 1946 as a *Navy* icebreaker, being turned over to the Coast Guard in the mid-60's. Can anyone verify that? I'm very interested to learn that GMM has done a set for the "Eastwind", because I've been wanting to build the "Burton Island", but it definitely needs some help! BTW, the Naval Institute photo archive does list a color photo of WAGB "Burton Island" under the USCG Aux. section. TIA for your help Ken Durling ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Ritchie_deutag, Colin" Subject: Re: The Model Police - a cautionary tale. This whole tread has been something of an eye opener , since all I've ever had from fellow modellers is encouragement, and support, and when pushed, only the mildest of suggestions as to where I could improve. But this whole are of the colour police needs a degree of common sense applied to it IMHO. A friend of mine who corresponds with me via e-mail recalls the time he was working at a NAS , (forget which one), as a civilian technician. At this base where F-14's undergoing routine maintenance, including re-painting. One weekend the local chapter of the IPMS came over for a tour. At one Tomcat, they stopped, and as one they pulled out there FS595A fan folds to start colour checking the bird, and surprise, surprise they couldn't match the exact shade of Grey. What they hadn't seen is the crew chief, an hour or so earlier, touching up the airframe with a can of automotive gray primer to cover over some work that had been done earlier. No FS595 comparison available, and a confused bunch of IPMS'ers. Now I'm not knocking the IPMS, or even those who try to achieve accuracy in colour matching, but a degree of common sense is a useful addition to your tool box. . The other story I picked up on that illustrates this is probably well known, but merits repeating. When the USMC AH-1W's deployed to Saudi Arabia in 1990/1 if was felt that they low vis grey would less than useful over the desert. To this end, a couple of crew chief's jumped in a jeep and went to the nearest DIY store, and there they bought several very large tins of sand colour emulsion paint. Back they came, and several hours later, voila, several squadrons' of camo'd -1Whiskey's . The moral, check your references, but be wary, and read around the subject, make up your own mind, and once convinced, go for it... After all its your model! Colin Ritchie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Ives100 Subject: Re; Subs The greatest variety of submarine kits are available in resin. If you want WWI and WWII submarines, I would suggest looking at Blue Water Navy and Tom's Modelworks resin kits for starters. These are highly accurate submarine models in 1:350 scale. If you want to stick to styrene, the choices are more limited and the quality not as good. Much work is often needed to correct mistakes in the few kits availble. As far as sub kits, among other places, these are available from Pacific Front Hobbies. The owner, Bill Gruner, is a very knowledgable and helpful guy when it comes to submarines. You can also visit the SubCommittee webpage, whcih has a bulletin board for static models. Our website is at: http://www.wolfsong.com/SubCommittee Tom Dougherty ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "jim & sherry rich" Subject: GMM destroyer/cruiser set Hey gang- I'm going to be starting both the 1/700 Skywave Tico and Burke class ships and was wondering if the Gold Metal Models cruiser/destroyer set has enough parts to do both ships out of one set. Thanks... Brad ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume