Subject: SMML7/5/98VOL172 shipmodels@wr.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re colours USN. Measure 21 navy blue 2: Dresden deck colors 3: Re: bubble free resin casting 4: Re: Resin Casting Again 5: Re: Slow-setting resin 6: Ship grating 7: Re: SMS Dresden @ 1/350 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS & ANNOUNCEMENTS INDEX 1: SMML 200 Coming Soon - Any suggestions? 2: New Titanic book - WEM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Mrs J Snelling" Subject: Re colours USN. Measure 21 navy blue. Try your local dealer for Floquil, or if Humbrol available mix 2 parts 104 Oxford blue to 1 part 176 neutral grey. Deck blue matched by 79 Blue grey. Good article on the Navis site by Mark Shannon on USN colour matching. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: DKrakow105 Subject: Dresden deck colors >> I am working in the Revell Dresden 1/350 and I have some doubts about the deck colors. << The Kaiser's navy covered some deck surfaces with linoleum, others with wood, probably teak. The linoleum was a dark chocolate brown color. The linoleum panels were fastened down with narrow brass strips, left a natural brass color. On the Emden, the fore and aft decks were dark brown, midships a wood color. The bridge deck and radio shack roof were also covered with linoleum Underneath the fore anchor chains was skid-proof metal plate, painted black. The slightly raised portions under the deck guns fore and aft were wooden planks, left a natural wood color. The same is most probably true for the Dresden. Incidentally, the Kriegsmarine also used dark brown linoleum over steel decks. Hope this helps David Krakow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Luis Verissimo" Subject: Re: bubble free resin casting Hi everyone, Does anyone have tried centrifugal force? Meaning: some years ago FSM had an article about a Ford Mustang. The author described his method for resin casting: he puts the mold in the bottom of a tin can and tied a string to the can. Then, around it goes. The centrifugal force takes the resin to the surface of the piece and the bubbles stay inside the resin. I tried once with Ace resin, but the resin is awful - never had a perfect part - with or w/o centrifugal force. One of this days I'll try Micro Mark. But those resins are too much fast curing for a non-vaccum job. Today I use polyester resin - perfect every time, strong, just drop it. Takes more time BUT I'm doing it for ME, in small batches. I think everyone started using the same stuff the pros use - monkey sees... - but that's a business, time is money AND vaccum/pressure equipment can be payed back. For my HOBBY, poliester is the answer. Excuse me the bandwith ocuppation ;-) Luis V ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: WFulp Subject: Re: Resin Casting Again I really appreciate all of the advice on resin casting techniques. I have a good starting point now. My problem is that I live in an area that hobby supplies and information are not easy to come by. I asked the local hobby shop about long cure casting resin, pressure pots, and vacuum chambers and they told me that I was way over their heads. Does anyone out there have a specific manufacturer of these products or a general idea of where I can get them? I am working on the Classic Warships North Carolina and am casting the turrets from the Blue Water South Dakota because the BW turrets are a work of art and more accurate. I can't afford to trash such an expensive kit just for the parts so I am willing to put some cash into the purchase of casting equipment. Thanks again! Wayne Fulp ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: KDur597268 Subject: Re: Slow-setting resin Hi guys - Been following this thread with some considerable interest, as I do resin casting myself. Someone mentioned a resin that takes 1-2 hours to set and is very liquid - could you supply a brand name? Also for the 1/2-hour setting variety? I've been using "Quik-Cast" from Tap Plastics in fairly simple molds and "painting" it in, and then pricking out what bubbles I can. The stuff sets in about 5 minutes though, and after 3 is too gooey to lose bubbles. I also wasn't aware of the difference between pressurizing and pulling either! Thanks! I thought it was all "pulling". What are the relative costs of the machines and where do you buy them? I'd be interested in the pulling kit the gentleman mentioned. Ken Durling ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: BEN8800 Subject: Ship grating Thinking back about requests for very small grating, I ordered some stainless steel and some polypropolyne screen from Small Parts, Inc. The smallest is so fine you can hardly see thru it ( 0.0029" hole) . You can buy 7 sizes in a set each 3" x 6". Hole sizes from 0.0029" up to 0.0394"). When spray painted, this stuff should be suitable for very small ships gratings. They also have nylon, I just ordered the poly. Both poly and nylon is a molded screen, where the stainless steel is overlapping wires. Stainless has openings 0.002" to 0.035". At small model scales both should look satisfactory. For a grating with 1/64" square holes check out Model Expos next catalog. I did a brass photoetched grating for the catalog and upcoming Constitution kit (small boat gratings). For gratings with 1/32" and larger square holes, Model Expo has these in wood that you assemble. Catalog may also feature some pre-assembled. They will have both laser cut cherry, and machine carved boxwood strips. Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: RCClem Subject: Re: SMS Dresden @ 1/350 Tom Dean provided me the following info on the colors of the SMS Emden, so they may be similar to the Dresden: "When Emden was sunk she was gray overall but before (the war) she was in the colours of the "Far East Squadron". The hull bottom was brick red with a black boot topping. The ship's sides were off white as were the boats & gun mounts. The decks were natural wood except for the bridge decks and the engine room casing tops, which were buff. The structure sides and funnels (3) were buff, as were the masts. Search lights and funnel caps were black. I'm not sure of the source for the above, but I hope this helps. Roger Clemens ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS & ANNOUNCEMENTS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From : Greg Lee (Listmaster - SMML) Subject - SMML 200 Coming Soon - Any suggestions? Hi All, Well, 200 is coming up soon (4 weeks), and I was wondering what we could do to make it special? (Yeh - Make an archive Stupid! I hear you cry, trust me, its in the pipeline - didn't I say that when SMML turned 100:-) One thought was to make a "Best of SMML" book, the first 200 volumes into a book format, but I am not sure of whether it would be viable, and possible? Its a big job, I would be more than happy to work on it, but would you guys buy it? Should it be offered to subscribers only, or commercially available to all? Would our wonderful Distributors Like WEM, Pacific Front Etc... be interested in taking it onboard? Or may'be a Best of SMML disc, a floppy disc in text format, catalogued, indexed etc.... That's probly a more achieveable option? Any thoughts on this? Any other ideas? Greg (Listmaster - SMML) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Dave Carter Subject: New Titanic book Hi there, I know there are a just a few (!) of you out there building Titanic models, there is a book available which is a MUST for you guys if you don't already have it. "Titanic: Triumph and Tragedy", a Chronicle in Words and Pictures, Eaton and Haas, hard bound 305mm x 225mm, 360pp, 1100 illustrations, 8pp colour.£25.00 Shipping in U.K. £3.00, overseas at cost PRINTED PAPERS AIR OR SURFACE MAIL... first stocks expected any day. Cheers Caroline White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/avenue/xdt22/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume