Subject: SMML20/06/98VOL216 shipmodels@wr.com.au --------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://warship.simplenet.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: YAMATOHOLICISM & Titaniholics 2: Re: LIONFISH Update Set 3: 5"/38 mounts on Yorktown 4: Casemate 5" guns on USS Arizona 5: Ugly Yamato Thread 6: RE: beautiful ships 7: Re: 1:350 scale model wish list 8: Re: YORKTOWN 9: Colors and paints 10: Santa Clara US Nats 11: Prinz Eugen Wreck (long!) 12: Cat lore (was Constitution 13: Re: Titaniholics 14: Stainless steel photo-etch 15: Re: Yamatoholicism 16: SS United States 17: A Hearty Thank You! 18: Re: Stainless Steel 19: Aurora NO. 721 1/400 scale USS Enterprise ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS & ANNOUNCEMENTS INDEX 1: ***Iron Shipwrights latest release*** 2: Navismagazine.com - this month's exclusives 3: MB Models (BWN) IPMS Nats 4: US IPMS Nationals and posh boats 5: SMML Readers requests - WANTED - IPMS(US) Review, SMML Aliases and Surveys ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: thunder.bearr@juno.com (Robert Vancel) Subject: Re: YAMATOHOLICISM & Titaniholics >> I guess there must be a genetic disposition to Yamatoholicism. I think she was damned ugly, no personality, no character. Am I alone here???? << >> I agree with you Dave give me HMS Tiger any day, now there was a beautiful ship if there was one. << You....uh....you get out much, Dave? Robert "Hollywood" Vancel nWMo >> There do not seem to be any photographs in existence. I was sent a number of photographs from the Imperial War Museum that haven't been published before, but all were of the port side. Is this a conspiracy? Is there something to hide? Is it a coincidence that the Titanic movie set depicted only the port side? Is something really out there? Perhaps there was a big advertisement on the starboard side (war bonds?) or a "Kilroy was here" sign (oops... wrong war). On a different subject: I disagree with Dave Krakow about the Yamato. She may be a monster, but she's a beautiful monster. And we Yamatoholics rarely charge for an opinion - in fact, once we get going, you may be lucky to get away before the dawn has passed. And to Colin Ritchie: at least you can snuggle up to a 1/200 scale on a dark rainy night. You try that with a 1/1200 and all you get is crumbs. Perhaps the SMML should stand for the "Shipaholics Madness Mailing List." << Duane, There's a Celtic shop (no, not the Boston Celts) here in K'ville that has some original photos of the Titanic from someone's private collection. There is a shot of her from the starboard side and it pretty much looks the same.. On the subject of the port side shot, well, I figure Cameron was filming "realistically" since the ship was sailing from England to the USofA she'd be moving from "right to left", hence no need to shoot the s'board side... well, except for the ice thing... Robert "Hollywood" Vancel nWMo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: James Corley Subject: Re: LIONFISH Update Set slight typo! >> one 4"/50 mount, one 40mm single mount, 20 20mm guns with a tripod and a << should read **TWO** 20mm guns with one base each of each style (4 bases total) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Les Dorr Jr." Subject: 5"/38 mounts on Yorktown >> I got some replacement 5/38 from HR products. They're a little rough, but better than the turreted things in the kit. << It took me awhile, but I figured out (I think) why Revell molded the open 5"/38s with a "turret." In almost all the pix I've seen of Yorktown pre-WWII, the open mounts apparently were covered with canvas or a similar material. From a distance, they *loo* like the gun is in a turret. I plan to just cover the "turret" part with tissue and white glue, then paint it off-white. Les ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Les Dorr Jr." Subject: Casemate 5" guns on USS Arizona I'm trying hard (well, not *very* hard) to resist picking up Revell's 1:426 Arizona and getting the GMM PE set. Just in case I lose this battle (;-}, here's a question that someone in SMML can answer. The Revell Arizona represents the 5" casemate guns as turrets. But in the pix of Arizona afetr the Pearl Harbor attack, these guns sure look like they were open mounts that stuck out through openings. That sure is the way similar mounts look on other pre-WWII BBs. I *did* see a photo where the openings were covered by canvas (or similar material), and it kinda *looks* like a turrent. Can anyone comment? Were these guns turreted, or open mounts sticking through the casemate? Les ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From : Greg Lee (Listmaster - SMML) Subject : Ugly Yamato Thread Keith Wrote: >> I was beginning to think SMML was taken over by a bunch of psychopaths who had been around open glue tubes to long :-) << SMML was *created* by a glue sniffing Yamato crazed Psychopath:-) (Maybe we are not so bad afterall then?) >> The US Navy did the world a favour by turning both those BOATS into scrap. << I have received a couple of *PRIVATES* about this today, some feel I should not have published this, but as I started the Yamato Buzz, I felt my "Personal" feelings towards the subject matter may be questioned if I held it over. Although Quiet possibly true, there are some on the list who do like these ships, so please don't disrespect their (and my) interests and fav modelling subjects (BOATS vs SHIPS), as I am sure you haven't, and most likely wont see a post on SMML saying that Scharnhorst or Gneisnau are ugly BOATS. Keeping the peace, Greg (Listmaster - SMML, and Glue sniffing Pshycopath (I Like that tag:-)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Katz, Gene S" Subject: RE: beautiful ships Howdy all, While watching the Yamato wars (i have the Tamiya 1/350 still unbuilt after 5 years), I started to think of a beautiful ship. all in the eye of the beholder, of course. Take a look at the Alaska Class large cruisers, Alaska CB1 and Guam CB2. These white elephants were obsolete on the day they were launched, but for sheer works of the naval architect a nd marine engineer's art, they are masterpieces. Beautiful lines, built for speed, packing BB arms into an upgraded CA hull. they were state of the art for 1944, but among the most graceful and elegant warships of WW2. their resources would have been better applied to the CV and CVE programs, but they were the Navy's answer to the axis surface raider programs in 1940. too late to do much, except at Okinawa and the WesPac. But talk about long, lean, sleek, sorry i must stop my hand is beginning to tremble! please somebody make an injection 1/350 of these works of art! ok, even a resin 1/350 if i have to. i'll just put my cats on half rations to pay for it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: louellet@uism.bu.edu Subject: Re: 1:350 scale model wish list My choices for 1/350 scale injection molded ship kits. Mostly US ships because that's what I'm familiar with. I'm sure the list members from around the world can add there own. Personal favorites: DES MOINES class heavy cruiser (for USS Salem, of course!)(a resin kit *is* on the way) ALASKA class battle cruiser BALTIMORE class heavy cruiser BURKE class DDG ESSEX class aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CV 6) and sisters (WWII) SOUTH DAKOTA class battleships CLEVELAND class light cruiser USS Maine other battleships (from late 19th through the 20th century) destroyer classes other than Fletcher (Thanks, Tamiya) destroyer escorts Real world choices that should be economically feasible: BALTIMORE class heavy cruisers - the original ships, the 2 CAG conversions (BOSTON/CANBERRA), and the CHICAGO style conversions. Even those that weren't extensively modified had weapon and radar system upgrades. ESSEX class carriers - many ships, many variations, many upgrades NIMITZ class carriers and variations. (Testors/Italeri and ARII have reboxed theirs many, many times.) I think these are the most economically feasible due to the many ships and variations that ensure the manufacturer gets a lot of mileage out of the very expensive molds. Felix Bustelo wrote: >> French Liners : Normandie, Liberte (ex-Europa), Ile de France US Liners : America, Leviathan (ex-Vaterland) Italian Liners : Andrea Doria, Rex << Add to this list a 1/350 SS United States, Queen Mary, and Queen Elizabeth I How about a Carpathia to go with that Titanic (or over it) Also SS Constitution/SS Independence (not realistic, but these were built here in Quincy at Fore River. It is a WISH list.) Will we ever see any of these in plastic? Who knows? I hope the Tamiya Fletcher was (is) successful enough so they do decide to do that often rumored ESSEX class carrier. I know that a lot of the US Naval ships listed above have been done or are planned to be done by the resin manufacturers. But a wish list is just that Larry Ouellette Volunteer, USS Salem (CA 139) U.S. Naval & Shipbuilding Museum, Quincy Massachusetts http://www.uss-salem.org/ (USS Salem model kit information available) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: YORKTOWN I'd be highly surprised if Ballard found aircraft still on deck, given that she virtually capsized when she went down. Aircraft routinely went adrift on flight decks/hangar decks during heavy weather and went over the side (heck, they even did so in at least one instance during radical maneuvering). I certainly don't see them remaining in place while the ship rolls over. John Snyder ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Cataldo Torelli Subject: Colors and paints Hi, I haven't got any answer about interior colors for CV-6 (between Aug'44 and Jan'45) and acrilyc paints (Tamiya or similar) recomendation to match US Navy Measure 32 colors. Here in Spain there is not much to choose when you're speaking about warship paints (well, it's better now than in the past), so I will apreciate very much any help. Sorry for the persistence, Cataldo Torelli Madrid, Spain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Keith Butterley Subject: Santa Clara US Nats Hi all, They say timing is everything. What time will the doors open on July 3rd? Wouln't you know that I will be leaving San Francisco that morning heading to LA down Hwy 101, and oh by the way dear look there is Santa Clara. I know some people who are just off the freeway at a little gathering that we have been invited to ;-) So if I do manage to pull this off, I will be the guy with glasses, moustache and a blue HMCS Vancouver hat, trembling and drooling all over himself. I hope I get to meet all of you there. Thankyou Dave Lombard for your LA driving advice, you've really given me something to look forward to :-). Keith Butterley Ready aye ready ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: DKrakow105@aol.com Subject: Prinz Eugen Wreck (long!) Hello All! Somebody recently asked about the present location and condition of the KM Prinz Eugen. Interesting question about an interesting (and-- as opposed to Yamato-- attractive) ship. I found some more data on the subject. At least one source maintains that the Prinz Eugen was scrapped in the 1960's. In fact she (he?) rests today at the same spot at the Kwajalein Atoll where she capsized in 1946. The Prinz Eugen made her final sortee in the closing days of WWII. Her heavy artillery was used against land targets to impede the Soviet Army's advance in the Baltic, and generally to cover the mass exodus of German civilians from the area. She is still a vivid memory to many Germans, soldier and civilian, who escaped the Baltic region with nothing but the clothes on their backs. Ammunition largely expended, the Prinz Eugen struck her colors on 7 May 1945. With modest ceremony, she surrendered to the Royal Navy in Copenhagen Harbor on 8 May 1945. According to one eyewitness, the German and British commanders embraced, they were old school friends. At the Potsdam conference of July-August 1945, the powers-that-were decided that the ship would become a war prize of the United States; the Pentagon slated its prize for Atomic-bomb testing. (My old highschool would have been a better choice!) In Wilhelmshaven on 5 January 1946, the ship was recommissioned "USS IX 300 Prinz Eugen". A mixed crew of Germans and Americans brought her to the Pacific with utmost cooperation from both sides. Although anchored at approximately 1,400 meters from ground zero, the Prinz Eugen survived both Bomb Able (1 July 1946) and Bomb Baker (25 July 1946) with surprisingly minimal physical damage. Bomb Baker resulted mostly in contamination of the ship. The USN towed the radiated, but still battleworthy ship to Kwajalein Atoll for ongoing radiation testing and measurements. Slowly, due to an unidentified leak-- probably an open cooling water intake-- the ship developed a starboard list. Attempts to pump the water out proved futile, as did a last-ditch effort to beach the ship. Finally, on the early afternoon of 22 December 1946, the Prinz Eugen, which survived all of WWII plus two Atomic Bombs, rolled over and sank on her own terms. Her mast, stack and upper conning tower, including the admiral's bridge, struck the bottom first. They were sheared away to lay in a horizontal position on soft sand. Next, the hull and the remaining superstructure touched the bottom on the starboard side. The hull did not completely overturn, rather it came to final rest at about a 70 degree angle along the beam axis, with the hull's top starboard edge on the hard reef bottom, propped up on the port side by the intact armored command bridge. The stack and upper structure were not squashed, they rest in the open space beneath the port side. The "B" "C" and "D" turrets were dislodged, and rest with their roofs on the bottom. Though the the lower platforms of the turrets are still in their shafts, they are now partially exposed. "A" turret remains in place, (minus its guns which were removed for testing ... anyone know where they are??) The ship rests on a gently inclined bottom about 33 meters deep at the bow, 11 meters at the stern. The center of the hull is about 200 meters from the beach which offers a curious glimpse of the Prinz Eugen: just the rudder, center propellor and a sliver of the rear hull are exposed above the water. In the late 1970's the port propellor was removed and placed on outdoor display at the German Naval Memorial near Kiel. Underwater photos of the wreck taken recently reveal that she is remarkably well-preserved. It is not the charred and melted coral-encrusted hulk that one might imagine. Paint is still visible on the interior bulkheads, glass is still in many portholes, the spinter shields are undented, anti-aircraft guns still in their mounts, inside, some furniture is still intact and sturdy. Torpedoes, without warheads, are in their storage mounts. Doors swing open and shut. The exterior has accumulated a 5mm crust of rust and biological material that can be removed with a few taps of a hammer. The metal parts have variously no rust at all, or up to 5mm deep rust in places. There is not much evidence of the A-Bomb tests. Only a few scorched teak deck planks bear witness to the two atomic blasts. Divers report that the hull was damaged where it impacted the reef bottom, elsewhere it is intact, and the welded seams are solid. China plates from the officer's mess are intact, as are lightbulbs is the light fixtures. The ship is obvioulsy in far better condition than the Titanic or the Bismarck. Like MacArthur said, an old soldier never dies. The condition of the ship, the shallow water and its proximity to land lead inevitably to speculation about the possibility of raising and restoring her. In 1974 US Naval Proceedings ran an article "The Last of the Prinz Eugen?" by two USN salvage specialists, LtCdr Paul Wolfgang and Cdr William Milwee. They maintained, among other things, that the ship is no longer contaminated by radio-activity. And since 1993 a small initiative is underway in Germany to raise the Prinz Eugen for purposes of a seagoing "peace museum" (...whatever...) They estimate 25.5 million DM to raise her and restore her to fully seagoing status. Far-fetched? A type IX submarine was recently salvaged from deeper waters for restoration and use as a museum. Anyhow, if any champions of worthy lost causes want to be a member of the project, or send them a donation, or if anyone would like a copy of their book with lots of color underwater pics of the Prinz (costs about $30) the address is: Das Project Prinz Eugen Postfach 440 D-23694 Eutin GERMANY Sorry to have rambled on, I hope someone finds this interesting. David Krakow Frankfurt, Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Sue & Ben Subject: Cat lore (was Constitution) >> Yep. One of the first "big kits" I cut my teeth on. Didn't finish it, either. Lost interest when the family moved and it was trashed. My question is how do you plan on "Cat-Proofing" it? It seems as if Revell molded it with a special "cat attractive" scent undetectable by humans. << A bit of cat trivia here. Many people have noticed that some cats are very attracted to shirt buttons and phone wire. That's because some of the manufacturers used a natyral lubricant that's based on fish oils instead of a synthetic one. For the buttons the lubricant is used as mold release agent and for phone wire it's used to lubricated the insertion of the carrier wires into the sheath. Apparently some cats can still smell the small quantities involved. Could it be that some model manufacturers used this stuff too? Cheers Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Sue & Ben Subject: Re: Titaniholics >> Some of us have multi-addictions. Even before the latest Titanic craze I was interested in the RMS Titanic, the RMS/HMTS Olympic and the HMHS Britannic. At this time I am working on transposing a set of comparative plans for the Titanic, Olympic, and Britannic in 1/350 scale. << Hey Duane, Are these plans of yours stricly for your personnal use or are you planning on marketing them (hint, hint)? I'd love to do HMTS Olympic and/or HMHS Britannic in 350th. That way I can model the big T (well. almost...) while respecting my self imposed "I don't do civvy stuff" rule! Gotta love the twists and turns of history! Cheers Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Sue & Ben Subject: Stainless steel photo-etch Hi Ralph, As one whom models armour as well as ships I have a fair amount of experience using stainless steel p/e. All I can say is stay away from the stuff, even when it's annealed it's a pain in the ass to work with. Stick to brass. Just my .02$ worth. Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Sue & Ben Subject: Re: Yamatoholicism Dave Krakow wrote: >> I guess there must be a genetic disposition to Yamatoholicism. I think she was damned ugly, no personality, no character. Am I alone here???? << No. :-) Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: jim burt Subject: Re: SS United States Yeah, there are a couple of models of the SS United States, there is one in 1/600 scale by Revell, that first came out in 1953, according to the box, & the 1/400 scale kit that you metioned was manufactured by Glencoe that came out around '53 also. I have both of the kits, I got the Revell sometime in '97 It is 20 inches long, the Glencoe is "28 inches long, & extremely low on detail. You have to add a ton of decals, even put one on the bridge & things on the back of the stern. The Revell kit is much better in detail, with only a few decals to be added, & both hulls come in one piece, with the Glencoe being able to be converted into "Radio Control". The Revell kit doesn't include any propeller shafts or propellpers. I like the smaller kit better. But, there aren't any in 1/350 scale that are sold by modeling companies, but there are some that are excellent in detail that are sold for $2,500 US dollars. It can be found at http://www.maritimereplicas.com along with several other detailed kits, like the Queen Mary, Normandie, Titanic, QE 2, ect. There are models of Lusitania, Mauretania, & Aquitania coming in 1/350 scale. I asked them this, they said that even Andrea Doria models may pop up also. Anyway, the Revell & Glencoe kits can both be found at: http://www.modelersvault.com the Revell sells for $10.00 the Glencoe for $40.00...... Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Michael Eisenstadt Subject: A Hearty Thank You! Folks: Just a quick note of thanks to Uwe Besken, Dave Krakow, and all others out there who provided advice concerning Hobby Shops in Germany, in response to my original posting. In fact, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the SMMLers (Smellers??? Is that what we are??? Or are we smellees??? Well, I digress...) who have been so generous with their advice since the list was established, and particularly a round of thanks to Greg Lee, for making it all happen. Now Greg, don't you ever dare take a vacation!!! The mental health of several hundred borderline people is at stake here. If you do, you had better leave the phone number for some kind of crisis hotline for SMMLers suffering withdrawal symptoms :-). But seriously now, thanks again y'all! Yours truly, Mike Eisenstadt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: Stainless Steel >> I am attempting to make my own photoetch parts and wondered where I may find .005" (or thinner) stainless steel sheet metal. Does anyone have a connection and advice? << MSC carries stainless and brass in a range of thicknesses starting at 0.001in thick and up from there Prices varym with thickness, they all come in 6 in wide rolls, 50 in long on the SS and 100 in. long on the Brass Contact them at 1-800-645-7270 Regards, Bradford Chaucer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: ModelerAl@aol.com Subject: Aurora NO. 721 1/400 scale USS Enterprise I just recently picked up this kit in a trade. Does anyone have opinions as to its accuracy, etc? How about a source of 1/400 a/c? Should I just try making resin copies of what comes in the kit? Should I pitch the whole thing? TIA, Al Al's Place: http://members.aol.com/modeleral/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS & ANNOUNCEMENTS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: ironship@usit.net (Jon Warneke) Subject: Iron Shipwrights latest release Hi Everyone, In response to numerous surveys and requests over the past couple of years, Iron Shipwrights is proud to announce the release of the HMS Rodney in 1/350 scale. This kit will contain parts for this historic ship, as well as the necessary parts to build her sister, HMS Nelson. The kit contains nearly 150 resin parts, as well as white metal and custom Photoetch brass. We'll have production examples on display at the US IPMS Nationals from July 1st through the 4th. Also, for those of you who won't be able to make the show, see these production casts on Warship at: http://warships.simplenet.com/Nelson.htm There you'll also find all of the information concerning the pricing and ordering. Ted and I are looking forward to meeting many of you at the US Nationals, and we hope you'll come by and take a look at all of the many kits we have been able to release over the past few weeks, as well as the other new kits from Tom's Modelworks, Steel Navy, Accurate Image Models, and Armada Scale Models. All of these companies will be co-located, so come by for the specials and other surprises. Jon Warneke Iron Shipwrights ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Paolo Pizzi Subject: Navismagazine.com - this month's exclusives This month Navismagazine.com features some pretty good exclusives for ship modelers: - The MOST EXTENSIVE reference about the A.Burke class ever published so far, with some 150 photos of 3 vessels selected from over 600. Also never before published profiles and drawings. The differences among the various ships in the class are for the first time illustrated. Plus a construction article for the new Skywave kit. - The MOST EXTENSIVE modeling reference on O/P class destroyers. includes photographs, drawings and camouflage profiles and and article on accurizing the Tamiya kit. - For the first time the MOST EXTENSIVE walk-around of a Rothesay class frigate - The MOST EXTENSIVE reference for Seehund WWII German pocket sub with walk-arounds of some of the boats left and rare pictures from public and private archives. And this is only A PART of our e-magazine... We thank the numerous SMML'ers who already subscribe to Navismagazine.com and we hope that other will join for the best naval and ship modeling information on the internet. http://navismagazine.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: BECJPARKER@aol.com Subject: MB Models (BWN) IPMS(US) Nats BWN will be at the IPMS(US) Nationals and as Charleston is a long way from CA if you want any particular BWN kit you can make sure we bring one for you by sending us an E-mail at mbishop446@aol.com. We will try to bring all of the line but as space is limited and the numbers of each kit is also you can reserve what you want this way. Please include you name and address so we can make sure you get your request. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Dave Carter Subject: US IPMS Nationals and posh boats O.K. guys, How many of you out there will be coming to say "Hi" to Dave and I, and Ken and Anna Summa, at the US Nats?? Not just us, but right next door to us we have Steve "RS" Wiper of Classic Warships, and next to him we have Billy-Bob Gruner, with Pacific Front Hobbies. Probably the best line-up for the warship modeler at this year's Nats...shame we couldn't get Loren Perry moved into our sector really... still, I tried! We will have all the latest WEM kit and etched brass releases, including the coolest 1/350 1941 Sheffield kit you'll have ever seen, approximately 100 types of 1/700 helos and fixed wing aircraft, NONE of which were in production this time last year... and a ton of etched brass detail sets, from 1/700 O Class to 1/700 Hood and our new 1/700 IJN Anti-Aircraft Weapons, and IJN Doors with the WEM "Professional" series and a truly awesome array of discounts. Come and see some of Paolo Pizzi's stunning ship builds on the WEM stand.. some of Tom Cleaver's (Aeronut-Man's) fab air-to-air photos... and we are planning on "Splicing the Mainbrace" with our mateys, and anyone else who wants to join us, with a decent bottle of rum.. yo ho ho and all that.... bring a glass!! Steve will have his 1/350 North Carolina and a load of other goodies... Ken will also be telling everyone about the WEM 1/350 HMS Victorious which he has mastered.. Bill Gruner will be selling imported 1/700 resins from Japan and Europe, and 1/1200 Scale ship models, and will have a range of rare naval titles... I for one will blitz out MY CC on this lot! Soooooo....... look forward to a spiffing time in Ca!!! See you all there chaps????? Caroline Carter White Ensign Models, http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models FREE WORLDWIDE AIRMAIL SHIPPING on our superb range of 1/700 and 1/350 Royal Navy ship kits, photoetched brass ship detail sets and decals. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From : Greg Lee (Listmaster - SMML) Subject : SMML Readers requests - WANTED - IPMS(US) Review, SMML Aliases and Surveys Hi, I have had a few request from readers out of the U.S. who cannot attend the IPMS(US) Nationals, to post a note to see if someone is prepared to do a review of the Show, and give a rough run-down of what ships are displayed etc... and may'be post some pix on a web-page somewhere so everyone can get an idea of what goes on there. Another popular *PRIVATE* request has been to give the list name an alias, like Duane's "Shipaholics Madness Mailing List." Please feel free to post in your idea's of what else SMML might stand for. I am also having tons of requests for more Surveys/Polls - What next? Wish Lists? Suppliers/Distributors subscribed? On the Bench? In the stash? Biggest Modelling catastrophe? etc..etc..etc..? Greg (Listmaster - SMML) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume