Subject: SMML21/06/98VOL217 shipmodels@wr.com.au --------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://warship.simplenet.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Ship esthetics and other things 2: Re: IPMS(US) reviews, SMML Aliases and surveys 3: new name 4: Wish Lists 5: Re: CV-6 Air Group 6: Re: Interesting tale about the Prinz Eugen's eventual fate 7: Re: Surveys, polls etc. 8: SS United States 9: Re: Subject: Stainless Steel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Sue & Ben Subject: Ship esthetics and other things Gene Katz wrote: >> . . ] take a look at the Alaska Class large cruisers, Alaska CB1 and Guam CB2. These white elephants were obsolete on the day they were launched, but for sheer works of the naval architect a nd marine engineer's art, they are masterpieces. beautiful lines, built for speed, [ . . . << Ah, there! Someone with taste... :-) No disrespect meant to all the Yamatoholics present, of course! As my earlier monsyllabic answer to Dave Krakow's post intimated I'm not amongst those who find the big Y beautiful. Still, it's a battlewagon, I guess I'll just have to give in and build her one day. Which brings me to a two fold question. There was a recent thread here about Tamiya's recent reworking of Yamato in 1/700 scale. Apparently that rendering is now more accurate. Does anyone here know what's wrong with the 350th offering? If the 350th kit as the same problems as the old 700th one, are there any rumours of Tamyia planning a revised issue? Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Sue & Ben Subject: Re: IPMS(US) reviews, SMML Aliases and surveys Hi there, O resident great Glue Sniffing Psychopath! >> I have had a few request from readers out of the U.S. who cannot attend the IPMS Nationals, to post a note to see if someone is prepared to do a review of the Show, << I can't attend the show this year. This sounds like a great idea! >> I am also having tons of requests for more Surveys/Polls - What next? Wish Lists? Suppliers/Distributors subscribed? On the Bench? In the stash? Biggest Modelling catastrophe? << Fer sure! But I have one question. Does the modeling catastrophe have to be ship related? Cheers Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Bob Morley Subject: new name Hi all, How about "The Captian's Mast" best to all Bob Morley morleyb@cosmic.swau.edu Cleburne, Texas USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Graham Holmes Subject: Wish Lists Regarding lists of things, what about top ten warships that should have been preserved. Note, ship must have been scrapped/expended not sunk. My Votes: HMS Warspite USS Enterprise HMS Illustrious DKM Prinz Eugen USS Saratoga Richilieu RN Vittorio Veneto HMS Dreadnought SMS Baden HMS Sheffield Graham Holmes ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Tim Sargent Subject: Re: CV-6 Air Group Hello to everyone on SMML - I'm a new subscriber (subscribed last weekend), and have slowly been easing back into modeling after about a 10-15 year hiatus. I build primarily aircraft, but like to indulge in a ship from time to time (my two current projects..not even begun yet...are a (hopeful) conversion of Monogram's USS Halsey (DGL-23) kit to the USS Worden (CG-18) w/NTU upgrade, and Revell/Monogram's re-released USS Helena (CA-75) kit to USS Bremerton (CA-130) circa 1952-53). Now that I've bored you all to no end, I thought I'd take a stab at contributing to this list :) >> I liked your post about Yorktown air wing for Mark (Hi !). Do you have the same information for USS Enterprise (CV-6) between Aug'44 and Jan'45 ? This is what I know: The CV-6 air group, in that period, was made up of F6F Hellcats, TBM Avengers and SB2C Helldivers, all in overall Gloss Sea Blue. There was also a three-plane detachment of F4U-2 Corsair night fighters. Ok, is all this true? What are the numbers of the air group, VFs, VTs, VSs, etc? Do you have info about aircrafts markings? << I can't speak for all of the air group, but I can give you some info on the F4U-2s. The Big E did indeed carry a detachment of F4U-2 Corsairs, but they were not onboard in the time period you have. A 4 plane detachment (from VFN(N)-101) was embarked from Jan 44 to July 44, as part of Carrier Air Group 10. Hope this helps :) Tim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Michelle Roth" Subject: Re; Interesting tale about the Prinz Eugen's eventual fate >> Somebody recently asked about the present location and condition of the KM Prinz Eugen. Sorry to have rambled on, I hope someone finds this interesting << Dave; Thanks for this interesting story. No apology needed for "rambling on"...not at all!! It would be real interesting to see this ship resurrected and restored. Since hind sight is 20/20, you have to wonder about the immediate post war demise of all the wonderfully historic aircraft, ships and war memorabilia that was scrapped with next to no consideration for posterity....( this is not intended in a critical way, because we, at least our generation, have never experienced anything remotely close to the second world war.) and the post war attitude to things war related must have been cold, to say the least. Maybe some day the P. E. will be cruising the North Atlantic again .....WOW!!!! Eric Roth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Michelle Roth" Subject: Re; Surveys, polls etc. >> I am also having tons of requests for more Surveys/Polls - What next? Wish Lists? Suppliers/Distributors subscribed? On the Bench? In the stash? Biggest Modelling catastrophe? << Hello Greg, I like the idea concerning whats in the stash. How about some horror stories regarding what some of us did as kids to our old plastic models!! I could cry myself to sleep thinking about some of the ships I had and what I did to them!!! Modeling catastrophes also sounds interesting....;-( How about first recollections of model building, (how we got started in the hobby..?.) I'm sure some good ideas will be forthcoming.... Eric Roth, Minden, Ontario, CANADA. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "David & Alicja Lombard" Subject: SS United States >> I was wondering how many models there are avialable of the SS United States. I've seen one in my local model shop in 1/400 (can't remember the manufacturer). Are there others (Preferably 1/350)? << It's probably the Glencoe kit. I've built the Subchaser from Glencoe, the molding and parts fit were pretty bad. I've read similar comments about the Oregon. Lots of work will make them into nice models though. As for the SS United States. Someone (on this list) commented that it looks more like the SS America. I have compared a print of the SS United States from Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock (it's one of a series of eight prints they did of ships they built) to the box art. The box art did not match the print -- I trust the print. David Lombard Rossmoor, Orange County, California ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "David & Alicja Lombard" Subject: Re: Subject: Stainless Steel >> I am attempting to make my own photoetch parts and wondered where I may find .005" (or thinner) stainless steel sheet metal. Does anyone have a connection and advice? << Just Friday I noticed a new line of shim/sheet stock from K&S Metals. They had three materials: brass, stainless, and something else. The stainless was down to 0.002 inches. It came rolled in a 1 in square tube, about 10 inches tall. Don't know how long the sheet was. Price was around $10. You might also try: Specialty Shapes Co., PO Box 7487, Romeoville, IL 60446. (603) 759-1970. David Lombard Rossmoor, Orange County, California ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume