Subject: SMML13/07/98VOL239 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 19:12:01 +1000 (EST) shipmodels@wr.com.au --------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://warship.simplenet.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Instructions 2: USS Oregon. 3: Liner Listing 4: HMS Abdiel Deck Colors 5: "Craftsmanships" (pun intended) and other essays... 6: Krivak class underwater body 7: Re: SMML12/7/98Vol238 8: Re:Viking USS Texas 9: DD558 U.S.S. Laws ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: John Sheridan Subject: Re: Instructions Rob Mackie wrote: >> 1) Illustrated parts list, showing part, description, part number and quantity. All parts (etched brass, white metal and resin) should be included 2.) One large exploded-view drawing with all parts on drawing keyed to parts list 3.) Clear diagram - with dimensions - of masts so that the builder can fabricate his own from brass rod 4.) Notes addressing construction steps that are not obvious from the exploded view drawing 5.) Errata Sheet: I don't care who the producer is, there are always a few errors that only become obvious late in the production process. There is no shame in telling the modeler as much. Invariably the errors are minor and the modeler probably won't care, but for those that do, here are the things that you might want to fix, and here is how I suggest you do it. 6.) Painting notes. 7.) How to obtain replacement parts. << I would like to add one more item to this list: 8.) Rigging Instructions: Unless you have lots of photo and references, it is very difficult to know exactly how a ship is to be rigged. A drawing of the ship showing the rigging in place and explaination on what each wire does would be extrememly helpful in completing this task. John Sheridan @ Microscale Decals http://www.microscale.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: thunder.bearr@juno.com (Robert Vancel) Subject: USS Oregon. My question is simple. Why did Glencoe stop making the Oregon? Of all the plastic ship models on our shelves, it seems to be the best seller. Sure I've heard the horror stories about it being impossible to build, etc, but there must be _something_ about this kit that makes people buy it. Also, the nuclear powered freighter (whose name escapes me just now, dang it) runs a close second. Robert "Hollywood" Vancel President, Secret City Modelers Founder and Promoter, nWMo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Mark Kwasnycia Subject: Liner Listing >> Is there a listing on the internet that tells who operate the Cruise Ships of the world. I would like to know were the ships are now. << You can try out the following URL: http://www.travelpage.com/cruise/ships/ It's mainly concerned with currently serving vessels, but there's some interesting exceptions such as the Titanic and the Carpathia. Enjoy, Mark Kwasnycia Ottawa ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Steve Sobieralski Subject: HMS Abdiel Deck Colors The color rendering of the fast minelayer HMS Abdiel in the Warship Profile on the ship shows her in a four color "Admiralty Disruptive" scheme in 1943. The colors appear to be white and three shades of green, which I would descibe as very light, light amd medium. The plan view rendering appears to show the decks painted these same greens, mostly the light shade of green with some portions the medium shade, but not in any type of camouflage pattern. Am I reading this correctly? Were the Abdiel's decks painted using the green colors of the camouflage scheme or were they painted grey as most RN ship's decks were? I'm working on a model of the ship and would appreciate any insight on this. Steve Sobieralski ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Steven Rogers Subject: "Craftsmanships" (pun intended) and other essays... There was a comment in an earlier SMML issue concerning quality improvement by various venders. I can vouch for this happy event. I have the Classic Warships,1/350 IJN Kirishima, and it is quite good. However, I just received my Classic Warships, 1/350 USS North Carolina, and it is nothing short of stunning. No question, a true work of casting art. Bravo, I am hooked, can't wait for future releases. On another front, I agree the instructions of some kits could stand vast improvement. A sticking point from my perspective is the lack of rigging detail, no trained spider in my shop. Scale Wars? 1/350 Hands down... I can see what I'm doing and yes I build 1/48 aircraft. Ships are the largest moving objects devised with the exception of the Saturn V moon rocket and it is a ship of sorts, so-o-o-o a ship model should leave a striking impression on the viewer, hence bigger is better. Meanwhile, it's 1915 in the North Sea and "Beatty's Cats" are running line abreast in moderate seas... I started building steel ships with the DML Spruance and am working my way back through fast battleships (1941) so far. A new book by John Roberts on "Battlecruisers" has set the stage for the next part of the story... Is there any interest by modelers or venders in seeing such ships as the HMS Tiger, Lion, or German ships such as the Moltke, or Van der Tann ? Big gun, fast ships, when aircraft were still just a nuisance, 1/350 scale of course! Tom's Modelworks seems to be on the way with the 1921 fitting of the Arizona. Thanks, Steve Rogers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Fredrik T" Subject: Krivak class underwater body Hi everybody! I'm about to try to make a drawing of a Krivak II class frigate. I have copies from a Janes book showing pretty much the the general arrangments and details above the waterline but nothing at all below. I have order a Skywave(I think) kit of the Krivak but it eventually turned out that it's probably a waterline model, at least according to some photos that I saw on another site. So if someone happens to know where I might obtain some information about this class or have a drawing of the class that I might obtain a copy of I'll be very glad. Cheers Fredrik Tholander Gothenburg Sweden ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: JVT7532@aol.com Subject: Re: SMML12/7/98Vol238 Let's hear it for a set to fix up the PT-109. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: Viking USS Texas >> To reply to the recent query about a 1/700 Texas, I talked to the Viking Models people at the IPMS show in San Antonio, Texas, in February, and they said they were going to do a 1/700 Texas after doing their 1/350 Texas. Now that their 1/350 Texas is out, it should be interesting to see if they go ahead and do the 1/700 one. (If only their 1/350 Texas looked just like the one Derek Brown scratchbuilt for the Nationals!) << Has anyone out there actually built/looked at the Viking USS Texas?? APC has it at a reduced price About $140 if memory serves, and Charlie Pace (MR APC) says that he has the more recent "Improved" kit, not the earlier runs. Is the kit worth it?? Also is it full hull?? I've emailed Viking twice, but have yet to see a reply :-( Regards, Bradford Chaucer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Robert J. Payne" Subject: DD558 U.S.S. Laws My father in law was on this ship and he called it a 2150 destroyer. He was on it from 51 to 55. I'm a aircraft guy so can any of you guys help me with kit information? I'd like to do a model of his ship for him. I had heard that it might be a Fletcher only modified. Help!!!! Regards, Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume