Subject: SMML23/07/98VOL249 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 20:54:37 +1000 (EST) shipmodels@wr.com.au --------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://warship.simplenet.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Ship decals 2: 350 scale ladders 3: Re: Blue and doors. 4: Re: 1/350 Handrails, pklus supplement 5: FM Ad 6: Coastal Freighter 7: Re: 1/350 Yamato 8: humor...it's too damn hot here to be serious... 9: Re: Thayer Blue & Kirishima 10: Re: Blue and Doors 11: Re: Decals for 1:700 Models. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Warship Update 2: Iron Shipwrights USS Olympia 3: Announcement - Ship Model Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: John Philip Downing Subject: Re: Ship decals Another thing that would be nice is range clocks and turret bearing circles for early US battlewagons. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Cdamb67491@aol.com Subject: 350 scale ladders Okay everyone, I have a question. I am using Gold Medal's photo-etched rails and ladders for my destroyer I'm currently building. What I want to know is, does anyone know if there is a way to either bend the steps to look real or does Gold Medal or any other company make them already?? The reason I'm asking is because I saw a 350 scale frigate that was on display at a local hobby shop that had it's ladders done that way. The guy at the store though didn't know who it was that built it. If any of you know, please advise. By the way, for those of you who have been responding to my suggestion regarding colors to use for modern US ships (RLM 63 + 30-40% Flat Gull Grey for overall ship color and RLM 74 for deck color), YES I do recommend only using Model Masters paints because they are enamel not acrylics. For those who airbrush, acrylics are a pain because being water-based, they are hard to thin properly. If you're not careful, you end up with a sand paper finish. On the other hand, when using an oil based paint like Model Master's main line, as long as you use the product's required thinner, you will be able to always get the right result because of the consistency of oil. The down side of course is clean up. Acrylics are just cleaned up with water while oil based paints are cleaned up with a solvent. I use lacquer thinner shot through my airbrush and then wiped clean with a q-tip. If you are working inside, that can be a problemo. So I hope I have helped all of you. If you go to a good hobby shop, they will have Model Master's entire military paint line which includes a vast RLM selection. Christian D'Ambra ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Sue & Ben Subject: Re: Blue and doors. Brian Mowery wrote >> Secondly, I need to know if 1/350 WW2 US doors are available, as some of the detail definition was lost during the casting of the Oakland. << GMM has an assortment set of doors and hatches in that scale. Check out their website: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/onetrack/goldmm.htm Cheers Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Foeth" Subject: Re: 1/350 Handrails, pklus supplement As J Gordon pointed out, etched parts can de glued directly on a surface with white glue without drilling. However, they will come loose at the slightest touch. I learned this the hard way, as I used this method to fit an Israeli tank turret with handgrips and tiedowns, which was shortly after it's original state of unhandlegripness. Today, I spent all my time fitting the rangefinder and it's base of a Fletcher-class destroyer with all sorts of detail (That etched rader is a pain!). I used curved handrails on the circular base. With the handrails firmly glued to their place, adjusting for the right curvature is easy, even while they're halfway done. This is absolutely impossible if it weren't for the drilled-in attachments. Secondly, guess what happens if you dry-brush etched parts, held to their places with a small drop of white glue? You end up in a rain of parts and foul language. By the way, I pointed out that the handrails where easy to attach. This is not entirely true if the surface isn't straight and level, like a cilinder, or an angled bulkhead. A small part like the rangefinder is also very hard to hold, without damaging it. All went right today, no parts broke off (except a wisdom-tooth my dentist removed an hour ago), while the rangefinder is full of them. Now it is so nice! Evert-Jan Foeth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Percy, John" Subject: FM Ad Got my latest issue of Fine Scale Modeler, and I found an ad for The Imperial Navy. This is the manufacturer that was discussed a few postings back - it makes the cancelled BBs, like the USS Montana, those big IJN BBs, and the St. Andrew. Well, it looks like now it is going to make the Russian RKR Kirov - the nuclear powered guided missile battlecruiser. Retails for $94, due in Sept.. I think DML or Dragon or somebody was rumored long ago to make this in injected plastic but it never surfaced. Looks like I'll have to start saving.... John Percy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "James M. Pasquill, II" Subject: Coastal Freighter >> A company named Coastal Forces advertizes on the Modelers Boatyard site. (http://www.modelersboatyard.com). They have a resin Sardine Carrier/Coastal Freighter in both HO and N scales. << Thanks for the tip. I am looking for something in the 150 to 200 foot range. Does anyone know of a source for readily available plans for turn of the century freighters? I see that a small freighter will be featured in an upcoming issue of Plastic Ship Modeler. What type of ship is this and what era is it from? Thanks. Jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Charles Subject: Re: 1/350 Yamato Saw your remarks re 1/350 Yamato. Would appreciate details Thanks Charles Ball ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Jeff Herne" Subject: humor...it's too damn hot here to be serious... Greg the Lustmaster wrote: >> P.S. Does anybody know how Mark Cuevas managed real wooden decks on Yamato? Please post all replies to my new address at the North Pole, I've got some running to do! << Well, he started by cutting down really little teak trees, then he planed them with a really little planer...need I go on? 105 degrees Farenheit and climbing.... Jeff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Re: Thayer Blue & Kirishima The new set of US Navy color chips from Snyder & Short has a chip for Thayer Blue. I think John Snyder recently posted their address. The Classic Warships Kirishima was reviewed very positively in Plastic Ship Modeler No. 1997/4. I've heard lots of good comments about it, and the hull looked very impressive at Nationals. Also the Warship site has a photograph of a built-up model of it. Hope this helps! Art Nicholson ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Blue and Doors Well...our first USN WW2 paint chip set includes Thayer Blue, ready for the modeler to mix and match.... John Snyder ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Mr J Owen" Subject: Re: Decals for 1:700 Models. I am at present, working on a model of the Federal Steam Navigation Company's LEICESTER a post war Liberty Ship. I am using the excellent Liberty ship by Tom's Modelworks as a starting point. With the availability of this kit, the impending issue of a Liberty in plastic by Skywave and a model of a Duxford Motor Ship listed by Jim Shirley the future looks bright for those of us who don't just model in shades of grey. A really useful addition to the range of decals available would be a sheet to cover merchant ships of the 1940s and 1950s. Ideally this would include house flags, funnel markings (often stylised versions of the house flags), merchant ensigns, hull lettering (e.g. Lykes Lines), emblems for tanker lines and perhaps even a selection of multi-national ships' names. Hundreds of War Emergency ships were built and many of them survived in commercial usage up until the 1960s. I would imagine that such a decal sheet in 1:1200 would also prove invaluable to those who model using Len Jordan's excellent resin castings, I know that I would have found it extremely useful when building my small collection. Best wishes, Jim Owen,(U.K.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Rob Mackie" Subject: Warship Update This week's Warship (http://warship.simplenet.com) update includes the following items: In-the-Box review of White Ensign Models 1:350 HMS Sheffield Review of Nautilus Models USS Lionfish upgrade set Tom's Modelworks 1:350 USS Arizona 1921 build-up article and review Pic-of-the-Week: Armoured Cruiser USS Brooklyn (CA-3) 1898 Updated Pacific Front Recent Arrivals page Three new models in Photo Gallery: Alberto Rada's DDG Winston Churchill, Ian Wilkins' scratch built 1:600 Gretavale, and Dave Judy's 1/150 Nanutchka Missile Corvette Rob Mackie Warship http://warship.simplenet.com More Fun than a Visit to the Dentist! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: ironship@usit.net (Jon Warneke) Subject: Iron Shipwrights USS Olympia Hi Everyone, I've upgraded some of the parts for this kit, and need to get snail-mail addresses so that I can get them to you at no charge. If you would, please send them to ironship@usit.net. Also, this list will be used to get the revised instructions on their way to you, which should be completed soon. Thanks. Jon Warneke Iron Shipwrights ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Felix Bustelo Subject: Announcement - Ship Model Festival Hello SMMLers, Just wanted to let those that live in the Metro New York City area (or those that maybe visiting in early August) about the 8th Annual NY Ship & Boat Model Festival being held at the South Street Seaport, Pier 16 along the East River on August 1 & 2 (Sat. & Sun.) from 1 - 5 PM. It is free, open to the public and non-competitive. There will be a lot of great models in plastic, resin, wood and other media, from kits and scratch built, working and static. There will even be a boat pond for those with RC ships to demonstrate. Also, take this opportunity to visit the Museum's ships, exhibits and shops. Details at the website http://www.southstseaport.ORG/ I will be there with my humble collection of models on Sunday, Aug. 2 only. So stop by if you can and If you're a SMML family member, please come visit my table and tell me you are a fellow subscriber to this fine source of info. Hope to see some of you there, Felix Bustelo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume