Subject: SMML31/07/98VOL257 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:22:08 +1000 (EST) shipmodels@wr.com.au --------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://warship.simplenet.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Fearless/Furious - doh! 2: Re: 1/72 photo-etch 3: Re: RN vessels in WW two. 4: Re: John Piper Flower Class Corvette 5: Babblings 6: Potemkin 7: Corvettes - Different Track ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Just out...Tamiya Magazine with WEM 1/350 HMS Hood build feature ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Mark Kwasnycia Subject: Fearless/Furious - doh! >> mailing on pictures of RN ships in World War 2 - Mark, I have a feeling that you may be mixing up the destroyer HMS FEARLESS (sunk by HMS FORESTER after torpedo attack by Italian aircraft 23 July 1941) and the aircraft carrier (ex "large light cruiser") HMS FURIOUS (in reserve from 1944, and scrapped in 1948). << You're right! Thanks for setting me straight - the scary thing is, that I honestly read the post, replacing Fearless in my mind with Furious... oh boy, is it time for a holiday or what! Thanks also to Mr. Lincoln for the terrific post on Corvettes (Again), or perhaps we should say Corvettes, STILL! Mark Kwasnycia Ottawa ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: 1/72 photo-etch This point may be mute. I saw a BIG photo-etch set for the Flowers when I was in Seattle for the Nationals. I saw a fellow carring it around and I lost him in the vendors room crowd. I wanted to know where he got it. One thing's for sure, someone at one time made a photo-etch set for the Flower class models in 1/72. The company may be out of business or overseas. The point I wanted to make is that 1/72 scale photo-etched parts look like flat metal at such a large scale. So consequently, the rails for example, would be noticeably round etc. 1/200 is as big as I dare go (and that's pushing it) with photo-etch unless the real parts flat. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Vimieraa@aol.com Subject: Re: RN vessels in WW two. I recently saw in a book (name uknown) a starboard threequarter bow view of the cruiser Euryalus, with another Dido class vessel shown in the right background. The photo is from the IWM. It was undated but for a specific reason it must have been taken in november or december 1941, and no later than the 15th of the latter month. Am interested in the background ship which is in fact the Dido wearing an unofficial camouflage scheme. Can anybody help? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Michael Quan" Subject: Re: John Piper Flower Class Corvette Tim Perry mentioned: >> About the same time as the Matchbox kit was released, an outfit run by a chap called John Piper released a seriously beautiful kit, but to a smaller> scale. It must have been about half the size, but had a glass fibre hull, PE superstructure and loads of white metal parts. It was very expensive, but superbly executed and no doubt the 'cheap' plastic kit did the Pipers kit sales no good at all. Pipers released a 'Grey Goose' gunboat to a similar standard later on, but I have not seen either for years. They must be worth a fortune to collectors (who know the price of everything and the value of nowt, as my old grandfather used to say. Can't think why, he came from Somerset.) I think Scale Models magazine ran a 'build-up' series on the Corvette at the time. I'd love to see one again, if only to check the tint of my rose coloured spectacles! (BG) << The Piper Corvette was 1/96th scale, and the pertinent issues of Scale Models Inernational magazine concerning the buildup were August thru October 1978. cheers .... Mike Quan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Jeff Herne" Subject: Babblings OK gang, It seems the "F" word (Flower)has been coming up as much as the "Y" word (Yamato). What's all the hype about Flowers? I mean, they were kinda cute, sort of like a children's toy, but as a warship goes they're butt-ugly (this is MY opinion, so keep your tempers quelled). Anyway, just an opinion...now on to serious business. On September 24, 25, and 26th, the Nautical Research Guild will be holding it's National Conference in Morristown, New Jersey. As Secretary of the host club, it is my duty to tell everyone within travelling distance to bring their ship models to this event. You need not be an NRG member to attend, but you'll probably be one by the time you leave... :-) All types of modelers are welcome, scratchbuilders, wood benders, kit builders, resin folks, even the RC folks, especially since there will be an RC display on Saturday. If you're interested in attending, check out the NRG Homepage at: http://www.Naut-Res-Guild.org/confer.html There will be several resin kit manufacturers, I have seen the list and know that Commander Series/Iron Shipwrights, Blue Water Navy, and Tom's Modelworks are slated to be there. There will also be book vendors, tool vendors, plans vendors, who knows who else will show up. If you require any further info, drop me an e-mail. Look forward to seeing you there. Jeff Herne Secretary, Ship Model Society of Northern New Jersey Host Club - 1998 NRG Conference ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: JVT7532@aol.com Subject: Potemkin Hello, does anyone know of a source in the USA for the Ogonek kit in 1/400 of the Potemkin, I would like to try this kit, also has anyone built it up? How is it? Any real problems? Thanks in advance for any help. cheers Jon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Ritchie_deutag, Colin" Subject: Corvettes - Different Track Tim Perry's recollection of the John Piper kits brings back memories of reading the reviews of these kits many moons ago in Scale Model International, (in fact I still have one copy of the first part of the corvette Article). They were 1/96th scale, so not that far from the Matchbox kit. I can't recall what the hull has produced from, but the superstructure was all PE brass sheet, the builder of the kit as I recall used copious quantities of Epoxy Resin along with the odd bit of soldering to hold the whole thing together . By any stretch of the imagination it was a major undertaking, and the kits were for their time, early-mid 70's very expensive indeed, Over £100 for the Corvette. It also had the misfortune to be produced about 6 months before the Matchbox kit, and guess what anyone who wanted a large Corvette bought! Tim is also right about the earlier kit, a Motor Gunboat, HMS Grey Goose, commanded by Peter Scott, the painter and naturalist. Again, a hull with lots and lots of PE brass superstructure, and again with a price then that would put all but the most hardened modeller off. I wonder if there are any kits out there sitting on shelves somewhere unmade, I think I'll just let then lie! On the subject of Flightpath, and their upgrade sets for the Matchbox kit, David did plan to re-work the one enormous set into 3 sets, Superstructure, Fittings and Weapons , but I don't think this ever happened. There were also plans to produce a short forecastle conversion for the original kit, as well as a mine sweeping set. However nothing has surfaced yet. David also showed me at the 1996 IPMS UK nationals some masters he'd produced for a 1/72nd steam Gunboat they'd planned. I guess watch this space. While I'm dreaming, can you imagine the cottage industry produced that would exist if Matchbox had followed up the corvette with a M or L class destroyed, or even a Tribal Ahh Dreams Colin Ritchie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Dave Carter Subject: Just out...Tamiya Magazine with WEM 1/350 HMS Hood build feature Just out on the bookstands (officially tomorrow in the U.K.) Tamiya magazine has a splendid feature on Ian Ruscoe's awesome White Ensign Models 1/350 Hood build. This model utilises the upgraded resin and photoetch parts.. for example, the starfishes are now provided either as resin components, OR as a much more realistic, if more complex photoetch assembly.. guess which one Ian chose! He built it for a client, complete with scratchbuilt harbourside diorama... he used Six hundred(!) GMM 1/350 Crew Figures, each one beautifully detailed and painted, doing all sorts of tasks, from loading crates on to the ship, to servicing the 8-Barrelled Pom-Poms. He even super-detailed the interiors of the trucks! The scane represents Hood shipping supplies in early '41... if you like breathtaking dioramas, then you MUST get this... Ian is undoubtedly one of the U.K.'s finest professional modelers/painters around today and it is always a privilege to view his ship models and naval dioramas in particular. In the U.K. Nexus Media are the suppliers and it can be ordered through any papershop... in the U.S. contact Wise Owl Publications. We will be getting a batch of this issue in, so if anyone has difficulties, and would like one, please E-Mail me, Caroline Carter, at White Ensign Models... we will be selling the magazine on at cost. Cheers Caroline "Shiphead" Carter/nWMo and WEMblie http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume