Subject: SMML27/08/98VOL284
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:33:11 +1000 (EST)

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MODELLERS INDEX

1: Re: Airfix lobbying
2: Re: Adams class DDG
3: Mystery ship
4: Re: Knots
5: Re: ENTERPRISE Escorts during VietNam:
6: Airfix Bismarck/Tirpitz

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MODELLERS

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From: drwells@hogpa.ho.att.com (David R Wells)
Subject: Re: Airfix lobbying

Keith wrote:

>> I am encourageing any members of the group to write the address below, in order to lobby Airfix not only to re-release some of their "old" 600 scale ships but also to put some heat on them to try a hand at some new ones. I realise this may be in vain but it is worth a try.

 Airfix
 Humbrol Ltd.
 Marfleet Lane
 Kingston-Upon-Hull HU9 5NE
 England
 Phone # 44-1428-701191 <<

 Been there, done that. On the one hand, I can assure you it is in vain. The folks in charge are concentrating on 1/48 aircraft, because that's where the money is. On the other hand, I don't want to discourage you from trying. If enough of us tilt at windmills, maybe they'll get the message. I'd still like to see a 1/600 Invincible, or Type 22/3, or even a Renown, to go with their excellent Repulse.

 David R. Wells
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From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Adams class DDG

>> Well, if you're doing ENTERPRISE in her original fit, I can tell you that
during Vietnam her typical escort was <snip> an ADAMS-class DDG... Problem is, of course, that none of these escorts is available in 1/700 or 1/720. <<

 I beg to differ. Dragon (I belive) reissued the Skywave Adams class and it was available last time I checked with Pacific front Hobbies.

 Rusty White
 Flagship Models Inc.
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From: "Foeth" <foeth@wxs.nl>
Subject: Mystery ship

 Where can I find pics of this mystery ship? If it is a german cap ship, I
will recognise it. (at least, that's what I think (hope))

 Evert-Jan Foeth
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From: HGYL@aol.com
Subject: Re: Knots

 One knot is a speed of one nautical mile per hour (6080 feet per hour). A
nautical mile is the distance on the Earth's surface subtended by one minute
of latitude at the Earth's centre. Since the Earth is not a perfect sphere a
nautical mile is shortest at the equator. The arithmetic mean of a nautical
mile is 6077 feet which has been rounded off to 6080 feet (1852m). Airspeed is measured in the same nautical miles per hour.

 Harold Lincoln
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From: ECammeron@aol.com
Subject: Re: ENTERPRISE Escorts during VietNam:

 When she was in TF-77, ENTERPRISE had whatever escort was available during the line period. Could be a DLGN, a DLG or DD. Lots of FRAM GEARING Class DDs served as escort or Plane Guard. If you can find copies of ALL HANDS from the mid 1960's, lots of Unit Citations for groups of TF-77 give group composition. Also, USNI Naval Review during those years has some info. Since there were more DD-710 ships available than DDG-2 ships, you could include a 710 FRAM and be period correct.
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From: "Douglas Martin" <Douglas_J_Martin@email.msn.com>
Subject: Airfix Bismarck/Tirpitz

 Ken:

 The Airfix Bismarck/Tirpitz kits are identical except that Tirpitz has 2
holes in the deck, aft of the catapult for 2 sets of Torpedo tubes, 1 per
side.

 I built more than 6 of these kits, in various guises and build qualities
from 1967 to 1973, none have survived the rigors of time.

 Tirpitz should have a completely different AA rig out, have a peek at the
Tamiya Catalogs, with magnifying glasses handy. The best AA parts would come
from a Prinz Eugen, but that is a hell of a way to upgrade Bismarck.

 Revell made a Bismarck or a least a Tirpitz, I remember the box art with
dazzle camouflage (Tirpitz), I think it had the different AA set up.

 Airfix AA guns of the 1973/4 onwards were much better quality, see
Belfast/Prinz Eugen, Graf Spee, KGV, Repulse, than their predecessors. In
fact the Bismarck kit is 'horrible' compared to current fair.......those 16*
4.1" are yukkkk, the 37mm with steps.....aarghhhh!

 Douglas
 (Remembers them just like yesterday.....)
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