Subject: SMML26/09/98VOL314 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:29:27 +1000 (EST) shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Lindberg MInesweeper 2: Re: Ark Royal AA 3: Re: Appling round PE rails 4: Re: Application tool for CA & White glue 5: Re: Glueing of photoetch 6: Tanker Books 7: Re: Floquil Paints 8: Why WW2 all the time? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Iron Shipwrights USS Alaska: Status update 2: Re: Friedman book wanted -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Steve Sobieralski" Subject: Re: Lindberg MInesweeper Does anybody know what class of minesweeper the old 1/125 scale Lindberg kit represented? More specifcally, was it an Admirable Class vessel? Thanks in advance for any info. Steve Sobieralski -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Vimieraa@aol.com Subject: Re: Ark Royal AA Mr Pickstock says that the two pom poms fitted in 1941 were not connected to pom pom directors, however she was fitted with six pom pom directors, which would suggest that each pom pom would have its own director. I would be interested in knowing where the information comes from that says the two port side pom poms did not have director control. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Appling round PE rails >> APPLYING RAILS OK I give up. How do you get the rail around the stern of a ship and make it look right? << Try this. Using a dowel or other round tool, roll over the rail on a piece of styrofoam egg carton and just get it close. If the piece is a little larger in diameter, it can easily be glued to the deck without springing back. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Application tool for CA & White glue >> I have been using CA to attach PE but have read, recently, that white glue can be used as well. Even when using a micro-needle to apply CA, I frequently get more than I wanted. Applying white glue with a pin or toothpick seems that it would provide better control. Obviously, there will be times where the near instant dry of CA (I use medium cure) will be preferred over the white glue. So, the question is... does anyone have any strong opinions either way? << Try this the next time you glue PE parts. I made this little tool in about 2 minutes and it applies super glue or thinned white glue with equal ease. I make what I call "nubs." Nubs are the left over ends when stretching sprue. Just stretch the sprue and keep the ends. The thicker the ends, the larger drop of glue it will apply. I place a drop of CA in an upside down Testors bottle. It's convex and perfect for a drop or two of glue. Dip the end of the nub in the glue and apply. The end of the nub is so thin it will flex while touching the model which will allow you to drag the nub down along a rail for example, dispensing a continuous glue strip. If buildup occurs on the nub, snip off the end and start again or make a new nub. I've used these things for years and they are by far the best tool going for applying small drops of super glue. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Foeth" Subject: Re: Glueing of photoetch I use a self made tool that is so usefull, I dubbed it the Highly Usefull Tool (HUT, seriously, I did!). It's just a cork from an empty winebottle with a slim steel wire jammed into it. I devised it to punch the dried-up glue from the needles of the gluebottle. But, it can be very handy to put tiny blobs of glue onto my models. I always shape the railing before painting and glueing, to make sure it will not bend into undesired shapes after it's in place. With the HUT, I apply drops of glue on two or three points of the railing to make it stay where it is supposed to. If the railing is in a more complex shape,like that forementioned Fletcher bridge part, I use more drops. I then smear large amounts of glue with the HUT (A large drop on the HUT is enough), until the railing is glued along the entire base. I sometimes use an industrial razor blade with some glue on the cutting edge, put it alongside, and pull it along the railing. It sounds crude, but is does help, and does not cause undesired glue remnants. The CA glue is slow curing and very unviscous, with the consistency of water (It says second-glue on the bottle, but I call it minute-glue). Then the railing plus part get airbrushed, or if the base was already painted, some corrections if needed. The superglue completely disappears after a matt varnish layer. The HUT is a usefull tool to add all kinds of glue on weird places without much difficulty. I do not use the bottles with needles for CA glueing (Nor do I know where I can buy them). Evert-Jan Foeth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Tanker Books >> Not much in print right now, but there are many out of print books that are useful. I listed most of the good ones in my bibliography for the two part article I wrote last year for Ships in Scale on building the 1/400 Revell MISSION CAPISTRANO T-2. The only good books on tankers that are currently available: Gray Steel and Black Oil by Thomas Wildenberg (USNIP) US Navy fleet oilers. Sailing Ship to Supertanker by Sawyer & Mitchell (1987) Esso ships - may be out of print. << I was at the Maritime museum bookstore in San Francisco last week, and saw several copies of a thin, softcover book called "The Last Mission Tankers". Did not really pay much attention to it otherwise, but if you call San Francisco information to find the bookstore they can probably arrange to mail you a copy or give you the publisher. Kurt Greiner SeaPhoto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Floquil Paints Per the discussion on the Seaways list, don't look for Model Expo to release a line of marine colors for modern ships. What they're looking at doing at the moment is a series of paints for sailing vessels. John Snyder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Michael Kear Subject: Why WW2 all the time? Does anyone have an opinion as to why the modelling fraternity at large, including the ship modelling fraternity, has such an intense focus on World War 2? When you look at the posts here and on other model lists, about 80% concern WW2 subjects (except for one ship list that's only interested in wooden sailing warships - I'm sure you all know the one). Since WW2 there have been several major conflicts, and dozens of minor ones. In technology terms, WW2 is an eon ago. I seem quite alone sometimes in being really only interested in currently serving warships. This is not meant to be a judgement of any kind - we ought only to model subjects that interest us - but a genuine effort to understand this phenomenon. Fair winds and following seas, Mike Kear, Webmaster, Task Force 72 Australia 1/72 Scale warship modellers, Australia http://www.healey.com.au/~mkear/taskforce72.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: ironship@usit.net (Jon Warneke) Subject: Iron Shipwrights USS Alaska: Status update Hi Everyone, The release date for the Iron Shipwrights Alaska has been advanced to October 15th. As of right now, all of the instructions and photoetch are complete, and the part production is about 40% complete. If you're interested in purchasing one, you can contact Ted Paris at 888-IRONSHIP (476-6744), or for more info on the kit, feel free to contact me. However, as always, we only accept cash, check, and money orders, since the cost of processing credit cards in the state of New York is so great that it would force prices up. Thanks. Jon Warneke Iron Shipwrights -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Friedman book wanted Does anyone have the book "US Naval Weapons" by Norman Friedman they would like to sell? Please email me your price and address. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume