Subject SMML27/11/98VOL376 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:20:56 +1100 (EST) shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Revell Invincible 2: Iowa conversion 3: Re: Prinz Eugen, and the NS Savannah 4: ATF 5: Taney/Campbell 6: Cutty Sark References 7: Re: Stern hits on KM ships 8: Navy ships 9: Bows and Sterns 10: Re: Putty 11: Harbour Photos 12: HMS Iron Duke Information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: 1/700 Scale coal and little boats -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Revell Invincible Dear Sir: Last summer it was announced that Revell was putting out the Invincible and I e-mailed them and it should be in the USA in Late December or January. It's cost is $22.00. Also I picked up '98 Shangai Dragon catalogue they are also coming out with the Kidd and Arleigh Burke. I guess in September I called Skywave on the phone and asked if they had sold the molds to Revell or Dragon. They have. Sincerely Craig Bennett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: ironship@usit.net (Jon Warneke) Subject: Iowa conversion From: "Morley, James (London)" >> I put a post in yesterday about painting...... with reference to the same project (Tamiya Missouri converted to Iowa), I am using the Classic Warships conversion set, and so far so good (although as this was my first experience working with resin it hasn't been THAT straightforward). What I have noticed is that this set is missing the prominent Bow AA gun mantle which was substantially different from the 1st built (Iowa), to the last completed (Missouri) of this class. I know that Toms do a similar conversion set do they, by any chance, include the reworked Bow cupola? It seems a very strange omission from an otherwise excellently thought out set. << As the pattern builder of the Tom's conversion, I can definitely say that it isn't included. It was an omission on my part since I concentrated on the superstructure without considering the bow tub (in other words, I missed it...). As for your previous post concerning the mounting of the 01 level on most resin ships, here's why I do it on my patterns. By doing this, it gives the modeler a reference to where the other parts of the kit are to do, and deletes the need to get out the calipers and rulers to get the parts in the right place. I'm sure many of us have been frustrated by putting the part down crooked, and then have the problem of getting it back up without too much damage. Also, it cuts down on the cost of the kit by reducing the amount of RTV needed to make the kit by eliminating parts that would need to be cast seperately. True it does cause problems when painting, but when compared to repairing damage from a goof... BTW, for all of the SMML readers out there, have a safe and happy Thanksgiving from all of us at Iron Shipwrights, Tom's Modelworks, and Accurate Image Models. Jon Warneke Iron Shipwrights -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: jpoutre@lehman.com (Joseph Poutre) Subject: Re: Prinz Eugen, and the NS Savannah If you're interested in the Prinz Eugen's current status, and the effort to raise and restore, and you can read German, try the following link: http://www.brandes.de/pg/book/index.htm "Frieden durch Verstehen Das Projekt Prinz Eugen" I don't know German, but there are a few images for reference. Hope this was of interest. OB modelling question: are there any good reference sites online or books about the NS Savannah? I'm going to build the Glencoe 1/350 despite its failings. Thanks, Joe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Frank Bayley Subject: ATF Ladies and Gentlemen, a modeler on another list I subscribe to has posted the following question without alot of positive reponse, so I thought I might ask if anyone here has the answer: >> Does anyone remember models of ATF Fleet Tug/Point-Class Coast Guard Cutter. They were from Staubitz of Buffalo or Dynamic Model Products, or ??? Would like to find one of these kits, originally they were for RC, or static. << Cheers, FCB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: KDur597268@aol.com Subject: Taney/Campbell >> Also there was a model by Revell of the USCGC TANEY and/or USCGC CAMPBELL that I am trying to find. The TANEY (now a museum in Baltimore) has sold out of the model and says they cannot get any more of them. << John - I have a couple of these left for sale - e-mail me if interested. FYI, Gold medal does a beautiful PE set for this ship, approximately 1/200 scale. The set includes parts for the "Wind-class" icebreaker also kitted by Revell, variously marketed as WAGB Burton Island and Eastwind. Ken Durling -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Ray S. Katzaman" Subject: Cutty Sark References Hi Y'all, I'll be getting the new Artesania Latina Cutty Sark (the 40 & 1/2 incher) advertised in the December FSM as a Christmas present. Now the fun will begin. I need some good pictorial references of the Cutty Sark. The references I am looking for should show the rigging, masts, deck set up, sails, etc. My searches on the web have not produced much, additionally, Barnes & Nobles, and Amazon.com don't have anything available for the moment. Your assistance in locating some reasonably priced pictorial reference(s) will be greatly appreciated and put to very good use. By the way, if someone has the address of the "Cutty Sark Preservation Society" in England, or a similar society/organization, that would help too. Thanks in advance for your assistance. Ray S. Katzaman Austin, Texas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Michael C. Smith" Subject: Re: Stern hits on KM ships >> perhaps it was no coincidence that the sterns of three large German ships were hit by torpedos. Could the Royal Navy have been using a sound-guided homing system in their torpedos? Is it at all feasable given the technology of the day? << David, My guess would be that either the ships were faster than the British pilots had been trained to believe, or that their training was off on this one point - the targets were apparently consistently slightly ahead of where the pilots thought they would be when the torpedo arrived. On the other hand, maybe this was intentional - a direct hit amidships to the Bismarck would have done nothing - it was the hit astern that nearly missed that crippled her. Anyone know anything about Royal Navy torpedo aiming technique? Michael Smith Marshall, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: roberto.paredes@cl.unisys.com Subject: Navy ships Hello all, It's very useful the "Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships Online" http://www.uss-salem.org/danfs/ but I'm finding a similar web site about Royal Navy. Anybody help me? Roberto Paredes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Duane Fowler Subject: Bows and Sterns Given the number of ships that lost their bows and sterns, I think it is more remarkable that so many of them survived. Several, after losing major parts, not only stayed afloat but sailed thousands of miles under there own power to friendly ports for repairs. Even if the ends of the ships had flaws (not to say that they were), I think the guys that designed those bulkheads and the DCs that shored them up aught to be darn proud! Regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Lance King Subject: Re: Putty Hello to All, When you use putty on plastic models, do you use any kind of thinning agent to make the putty easier to work and get into tight places? Lance -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: CHRIS DRAGE Subject: Harbour Photos Hi All, I would like to add my voice to the request made by Jeff Herne for aerial (or otherwise) WWII vintage photos of harbours/anchorages. I am particularly interested in Grand Harbour (Malta), Alexandria, Gibralta, Scapa, Trinco., Halifax (N.S). Any book references will be much appreciated. Regards, Chris -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Daniel Cleyne Subject: HMS Iron Duke Information Hi All I am looking to find information about HMS Iron Duke from 1914 - 1929. I own the 1/600 airfix kit but I was hoping to build a large scale RC model of this ship and I can't seem to find much detailed information. Thanks Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: 1/700 Scale coal and little boats .......and no I'm not joking.... to complement your 1/700 dockyard scene, with your little WEM1/700 coal trucks, and, taking advantage of Bob Brown of MDC's position as a consultant in open cast mining (he was formerly on the board of British Coal), we have sourced a supply of genuine steam coal... to get scale size lumps, it will be mesh screened in a lab. to correspond to approx. 1ft diameter "lumps" of coal...and you can fill up your little wagons or have the stuff lying around in piles or whatever.. or it can be used in a merchant setting.. the possibilities are endless. I'm sure we have some bright sparks out there with some other ideas.... Also, we have a load of left over boats from the Askold production run. Bearing in mind that a number of 1/700 Scale resin kits of early Russian subjects exist out there, would anyone like to see the following: WEM PRO B17 Russian Steam Launch WEM PRO B18 Russian Rowing Boat Each bag would cost 1.57 pounds. Other new boats (from the 1/700 Q.E.s) are: B19 45ft Admirals Barge B20 50ft Steam Pinnace B21 42ft/45ft Sailing Launch at 1.57 per bag. Kind Regards Caroline Carter White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models mailto:xdt22@dial.pipex.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume