Subject: SMML18/02/99VOL460 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:47:49 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Tirptz Colours: 2: Re: Enterprise colors 3: WARP-FREE SALEM 4: Re: Mk-48 ADCAP 5: Re: USS Salem 6: Ting Yuen 7: 1/350 5 Bar railing 8: Re: Enterprise Colors 9: William "Bud" Gruner, Captain of USN Submarine Skate 10: Thanks for answers 11: Straightening Warped Resin Hulls 12: Re: Des Moine 13: Coast Guard, no joking 14: Flower Power 15: MK48 ADCAP kit 16: USS Munsee in Fine Scale Modeler 17: Re: IJN Mogami class in PSM 95/4 18: Re: Mogami class cruisers 19: Re: Tirpitz Colours 20: IJN Warships -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Forgotten Ships 2: Re: USS Salem Models 3: Model Shows WEM are attending,, 4: Accurate Image Models Announcement 5: Re: PSM 19 and Coast Guard ships 6: Re: German Imperial Warships -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Peter Mispelkamp" Subject: Re: Tirptz Colours: While I am not sure the historical accuracy, I have used this combination of Humbrol paints with great success on my 1/400 scale Heller Kriegsmarine warships: Hull Red HN 5 Dark Grey no. 27 Tank Grey no. 67 ( Waterline or "boot-topping") Italian Light Grey (HI 5) - almost white in appearance giving a good contrast between the other two grays. MC 24 Natural Wood. Sorry I don't know the new numbers! As for the camo scheme I recently reviewed the book by Gerhard Koop & K.P. Schmolke Battleships of the Bismarck Class USNI Press, ISBN 1-55750-049-5 which has four nice camo schemes for you to choose from - as well as some very interesting pictures. Hope this helps Peter K. H. Mispelkamp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Enterprise colors >> Does anyone have any suggestions on what specific colors I should paint my 1:350 Enterprise? I am trying to make it look as real as possible. I have the photo eched parts that I am going to put on. Any suggestions? << Fortunately Enterprise is pretty simple to paint until you get to the flight deck. The entire ship is Haze Gray (mix 1 part Testors Camouflage Gray and two parts Testors Medium Gray). Once the paint is dry, mix a chocolate brown wash and treat all the raised details. Then follow up with drybrushing Haze Gray. This makes all the raised details real pop out. As I said in an earlier post, the flight deck is your biggest challenge. Start by mixing an asphalt color (2 parts Testors Flat Black, 1 part Testors Camouflage Gray, 1/2 part Insignia Blue and 1/2 part Euro 1 green. Once that's done the many white A/C tie downs need to be done. Since they are very small but noticeable on the dark flight deck, I applied dots using a #1 K&E resivour pen with light gray ink. The rest of the deck markings should be painted now. Once all the deck markings are done, use the flight deck color and dust the entire deck unevenly to produce wear on the markings. Concentrate more black on the blast deflectors, the beginning of the catapults and around the trap wires. If you really want to go crazy, use a charcoal pencil and add skid marks to the trap wires area where the planes touch down. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Baker Subject: WARP-FREE SALEM Lest anywone think that Steve Wiper's DES MOINES class cruiser kit resembles a bowl of spaghetti, the one received here was beautifully warp-free. More important, however, it was an absolute joy to examine. The kit appears dead-on accurate, the castings (resin and metal) are superbly done, the brass is magnificent, and the decals thorough and well-made. And the plans and instructions are thorough and useful. Altogether a wonderful kit, and I eagerly anticipate the estimated (by Classic Warships) 300 hours it will take to assemble and paint (or paint and assemble) it. Disclaimer: I know Steve and greatly admire his kits and his booklets and have contributed in a small way to the latter. To whomever it was who was using the Friedman books to straighten the hull, I hope you read them thoroughly before sacrificing them in that manner! By the way, COMBAT FLEETS 1998-1999, at slightly over 10 lbs a copy, would be an even better weight source, if you've no bricks; I use spare copies as paper weights and as presses for my leaf and stamp collections, while, when piled against an outer wall, the books make excellent insulation (and, if all else fails, they are a fine source of data on ships and illustrations for modellers). Best A.D. Baker, III -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Torgeson Roger A Subject: Re: Mk-48 ADCAP Steve, I do remember a built up model of both the Mk-46 and 48 torpedoes. I believe the fellow who was making the died a number of years ago. I will try to make it up to the Naval Undersea Museum Gift Shop during lunch, on the first day it's not pouring down rain, and see if they have anything. Roger Torgeson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: louellet@uism.bu.edu Subject: Re: USS Salem John Sheridan wrote: >> There's at least 5 other volunteers/staff of the USS Salem on this list(including me!). As for painting, the State has given the Museum 3 million dollars to have the hull cleaned and repainted. The interior of the ship is in excellent condition due to the loving care provided by the Musuem staff and the volunteers. << Correction: $2 million dollars. Believe it or not, it really is not a lot of money when it comes to ship repairs. The original plans were to have the teak deck redone, the ship dry docked, stripped and repainted, new bathroom facilities installed, a heating system replacement, and new gangway access systems. Well, all of that would probably cost over $5 million! Our volunteer ship's carpenter estimated it would cost $1 million to redo the deck alone (he is a lifelong shipbuilder.) Reality dictates that the hull from the waterline up and the superstructure will be repainted with SALEM at her berth. An automatic cutover switch will be installed on our emergency generator, and the new bathrooms and gangways will probably happen too. Repairs were made to the current heating system by volunteers at a cost of thousands instead of many tens of thousands. If there is any money left, it may go towards teak for the deck, or to make further improvements to the heating system (50 year old pipes, pumps, and valves are a pain in the butt!) As John said, the interior is in prime condition. We were lucky that the ship was mothballed, with the dehumidification systems. She was also not stripped for too many parts. Most of the painted surfaces looked good, if a little dull. A little polish here, and paint there, and the result is one of the best 2nd decks in the museum fleet. Some of the compartments below the waterline look like there were in use yesterday. Forty years of very little temperature changes kept these spaces looking good as new. >> How did you solve the problem of the grass growing in the teak wood deck? A couple places needed a mowing at the time. << >> I forget how they did it, but nowadays the deck is for the most part grass-free and slowly being restored. << The best way to keep the grass away is to sweep the deck of accumulated dirt and debris, and to wash it down with salt water. Our volunteer carpenter has done most of the deck repair himself, with a little help from a local union a few years back. Missing and rotted planks are the priority, even though the whole deck could use refinishing. Larry Ouellette Quincy, Massachusetts, USA Volunteer, USS Salem (CA 139) U. S. Naval & Shipbuilding Museum http://www.uss-salem.org/ A Non-Profit Corporation for preserving Naval History and Quincy Shipbuilding. USS Salem model kit information is available at the web site -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Kenneth H. Goldman" Subject: Ting Yuen Roger Clemens' posted want of pre-Dreadnaught kits is the perfect segue into my question. Does anyone know the proper placement of the torpedo batteries on the Chinese battleship Ting Yuen? Laid down in 1888, she was the emperor's flagship in the first Sino-Japanese War and sparked a naval race with Japan similar to Jackie Fisher's dreadnaught race with the Kaiser. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER http://www.wman.com/~khgold/ Hi Ken, Plastic Ship Modeller(PSM) 96/4 has an article on Chinese pre dreadnaughts including the Ting Yuen. Unfortunatly no reference to the torpedo batteries(that I could see), but a good read none the less. Dan has done some drawings of Chen Yuen to go with the text by Dr. Kerry Jang. he does mention that there are pictures avaiable from German Museums, but they cost a heap. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Duane Fowler Subject: 1/350 5 Bar railing Tom's Model Works Titanic set includes five bar railing and is much cheaper than the GMM set. There is quite a bit of other railing too. Best regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "mkrumrey" Subject: Re: Enterprise Colors I recently finished the Tamiya 1/350 CVN-65. I painted the hull and superstructure Testors Model Master Dark Gull Grey. The Hull beneath the water line I used Floquil Hull Red, with Floquil Black Boot Topping. For the flight deck and all upper surfaces I used Testors Model Master Gloss Navy Grey, as a gloss surface is desirable for applying decals. In referring to photos in "Detail & Scale, USS Enterprise", I noticed that the very upper surface of the bridge is not painted the dark color. So I painted that surface Dark Ghost Grey, as I did the mast and radars. I used thin strips of Evergreen Plastic to simulate the Flourescent lights in the "65" on the bridge, and I used GMM Decals for the "E's" on the starboard side of the bridge. I used press on letters for the USS Enterprise CVN-65 on the forward part of the bridge, and a Large Press on letter for the E on the aft side of the bridge. For the Flight deck number I used Scale Master white stripes and followed the engraved outline. This took me about two hours to accomplish. I painted the landing markings flat white. I used Scale Master black decal stripes cut to size for the rubber arrester wire bumpers, and pieces of white decal stripe where the arrester wire goes in to the flight deck. I used GMM decal for the elevator warning stripes, and GMM decals for the foul lines, but; I laid down the white and cut the red to match the engraved sizes on the forward foul lines. Using some unclear photos from other resources I made a "SWAG" as to the location of the starboard landing foul line. I painted the tie down "dots" with Testors Light Ghost Grey. I did this before I put the deck on the model. It made it a lot easier to handle. I used white glue to fill in the seams, with moderate success. My son weathered the flight deck using pastels, and then I gave the whole thing a couple of coats of Testors Dull coat. For the windows in the bridge I used a green document protector cut to shape and installed using Methyl Ethel Ketone, which is basically what most plastic cements use. It is found in any hardward store, and does the job as smartly as Testors or any other liquid cement at a fraction of the cost. I also used the GMM "Hi-Viz" decals for the aircraft. I know they are for the wrong period, but, I think they look neat, and I really don't care, as it is a model that I enjoy looking at on a dailly basis. Granted the paint may not match a color chip of current U.S. Vessels, but, I have been around enough ships and have enough photos etc., and to me it looks right. Good luck, and enjoy the project. I spent three years on and off, starting with the aircraft. Once I had all the planes painted, wings folded and decaled, I started on the kit. Have fun. BTW, If you don't have the latest GMM PE set, I strongly recommend getting it, as it has all the radars, railings, liters, ladders etc, that you will need. I had the earlier set, but popped for the later one. Mark Krumrey New Richmond WI Weather is the main topic of conversation here in the great upper midwest commonly reffered to as "God's Country". It is a status symbol to have the latest information on the weather, and.......how much snow one has shoveled off ones driveway and walks. :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Rob Mackie" Subject: William "Bud" Gruner, Captain of USN Submarine Skate The Tuesday 16 February Wall Street Journal has a lengthy article about computer combat simulations on page 1 of the second section. Featured is William "Bud" Gruner, commander of the US Submarine Skate in the latter stages of WW2. He is the father of Bill Gruner, the owner of Pacific Front. The senior Gruner, now 85 years old, worked as a consultant to Mindscape in the development of their "Silent Hunter" simulation. The article includes a drawing of Bud Gruner as he appeared 55 years ago aboard Skate. It is a very interesting article, especially Bud Gruner's comments about simulations versus the real thing. Check it out. Rob Mackie Warship http://warship.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: SWO77@aol.com Subject: Thanks for answers For all who replied re: the 5-bar railing, I thank you. I checked the GMM set for that 5 bar rail and there are indeed lengths of rail with 5 bars, but one of those bars is supposed to be a water channel. I guess I will just use that...or I could also string monofilament betwen stanchions. I will have to take a look at that merchant ship set... Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Rob Mackie" Subject: Straightening Warped Resin Hulls Here is a method for straightening warped resin hulls with which I've had excellent results: 1.) Using a 1/4" bit, drill a hole the length of the hull. Start at the stern near the waterline, and keep your aim true so that it exits exactly in the middle of the bow. The least bit of wavering or nervousness will irretrievably ruin your expensive resin kit. 2.) Insert a 1/4" diameter steel rod into the aforementioned hole. The rod should extend 3" beyond the bow and stern, so make it 6" longer than the hull. 3.) Purchase a 25 LB bag of charcoal at your local market. Mesquite fired charcoal works especially well. Fire up your barbecue. 4.) When the coals are red hot, mount your skewered resin hull 6" - 8" above the fire. 5.) Slowly rotate the hull for 20 minutes. 2 or 3 rotations per minute is about right. Some modelers apply barbecue sauce but I have not found this to be necessary, though marinating resin hulls in red wine for about 24 hours prior to cooking can have beneficial results. But remember, keep rotating or else the hull will melt. 6.) When the hull is red hot, remove from the skewer and plunge it into an icewater bath. Use two 50lb barbell weights (or five 10 LB weights-the choice is yours) to weigh down the hull and prevent its reverting to the pre-barbecue banana shape. 7.) After 3 hours remove from the ice water bath. You will now have a ram rod straight resin hull. The beauty of this method is that one can do it while entertaining. It stimulates conversation, not to mention being very useful for meeting attractive members of the opposite sex. There is something about a modeler straightening a resin hull over red hot charcoal that women find irresistible. I hope this helps. Rob Mackie Warship http://warship.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Dave Judy Subject: Re: Des Moine I have a m-oven that measures 23" diag. so this works for the smaller ships, yes obviously some won't fit. But I use it for just about all parts large or small. I tried boiling water in the bathtub for a large model and about 10 gals. later I got it hot enough to straighten!! Dave Judy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Duane Fowler Subject: Coast Guard, no joking Hello Gene, I hope that you didn't think that my note was making fun of the Coast Guard. I was a member of the Coast Guard and extremely proud of that service. I respect all who serve their country (including our allies). Some of my fondest times in the USCG were spent on Shetland Islands at a LORAN monitor station where our closest neighbors (other than a few overly friendly sheep whom we shan't mention by name) were the Royal Army Communications Station and the Royal Coast Guards up the road. As I said before, my favorite modeling subjects are the USCG cutters and craft and after that the USCG aircraft. I have always have a strong attachment to the WPC/WHEC Secretary Class and especially the WPC/WHEC 33 for some reason. I do believe that a certain amount of good natured ribbing and humor is OK. And I learned early on that when if I am making a joke, it is easiest to make it about myself since I rarely hold a grudge against myself and have had no urges to beat myself up no matter how offend I got with myself. Best Regards, Duane Fowler P.S. Would anybody know where I can get a copy of Scheina's US Coast Guard Cutters and Craft of WWII? I have been looking for this book for a very long time but haven't been able to find it at any price. P.P.S. Did I tell you about the time my boat got grounded? Somebody drained the tub! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Duane Fowler Subject: Flower Power I just picked up a copy of the book "An Illustrated History of the Royal Canadian Navy" yesterday and noticed the rather large section on Flower class corvettes. Almost half the book is given to them! There is a photo and history of each. Interesting but rather too many flowers for my garden. Regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Ed Grune Subject: MK48 ADCAP kit Steve: I remember seeing this kit too. I saw it in the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard museum gift shop (Bremerton, WA). If I remember, it was a small cottage industry company somewhere out of the Pacific Northwest. Check with the PSNSY museum and see if they can give you any leads. [Don't pay extra for the ADCAP over a Mod 1/4 - theres not a lick of difference externally!] Ed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: louellet@uism.bu.edu Subject: USS Munsee in Fine Scale Modeler Hello all, There is a nice article on scratchbuilding the W.W.I.I. Fleet Tug USS MUNSEE in the March 1999 Fine Scale Modeler. It is interesting to see Styrofoam, spackle, cardboard, and soda straws, along with purchased/96 scale fittings, being turned into such a nice model. For those who don't have the magazine, George Schmidt depicted the MUNSEE as she was towing the disabled USS CANBERRA, just after the CANBERRA has shot down an attacking Japanese 'Frances' aircraft. The MUNSEE is fully manned and one crewman is looking at the doomed Japanese pilot through his binoculars. The figures are HO scale railroaders cut down a little and modified into sailors. If you are in the Boston area you can see this model in person on board the USS SALEM. It is displayed in the Ship Model Display area and is one of the most popular models, especially with the kids. Larry Ouellette Volunteer, USS SALEM (CA 139) United States Naval & Shipbuilding Museum http://www.uss-salem.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: dhjonespsm@juno.com Subject: Re: IJN Mogami class in PSM 95/4 >> I'm looking for some detailed info on the IJN Mogami, prior to her refit to 8" guns. Got some good places to start? Sean D. Hert << >> A good place to start is Plastic Ship Modeller 95/4 (which I've lent out). Dan will most probably confirm if this is appropriate or not. Shane << Hi guys, I worked late yesterday so I was late checking the e-mails. The 95/4 PSM has plans and info for both before and after refit, but it is only applicable to the SUZUYA and KUMANO. MOGAMI and MIKUMA were different in the bridge structure and particularly the engine room layout, and thus the ventilation shapes and locations. The basic hulls in all the Tamiya boxes are appropriate only for SUZUYA or KUMANO unless you do some modifications. Actually by today's standards the kits are a bit elderly and need some work even for building these two ships. I had planned to do a "part 2" dealing with the MOGAMI and MIKUMA but this project was shelved as this was about the time I had the opportunity to publish the excellent series of articles by Alan Raven on the development of naval camouflage. Space considerations scuttled the MOGAMI project for a while, but I shall probably return to it one day, although now the urgency no longer exists. Now there is an excellent book on IJN cruisers by Mr. LaCroix and Mr. Lenton Wells published by the Naval Institute Press. It may seem very expensive, but it is a bargain in terms of the quality and depth of research. It is everything in a single volumn that you could possibly want to know about IJN cruisers, all types, including the old light cruisers. There are numerous photographs and excellent scale drawings of every class, including drawings showing all the modifications and refits. If you cannot afford to purchase the book, I would suggest obtaining a copy from your local library through inter-library loan. Daniel Jones Plastic Ship Modeler magazine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Sean D. Hert" Subject: Re: Mogami class cruisers >> If your bank balance can stand it and you can find a copy Lacroix and Wells Japanese Cruisers of the Pacific War is the one to get. It's literally a weighty tome but Chapter 9 contains all you'll need << Well, I've been thinking about this book for a long time, and Rocky Mountain Shipyard has it for 80.00USD- and free shipping. Guess it's time to buy...... Sean D. Hert Webmeister, MBG Site: http://www.netwalk.com/~popev/bg/ IJN Mogami (Fitting Out) "People shouldn't treat Y2K lightly. Historians are only starting to realize that Y1K caused the dark ages." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: jmaine@golden.net Subject: Re: Tirpitz Colours Hi all, Well, I may as well come clean and join the others on this list who have a 1/350 Tirpitz in the kit stash that I hope to modify to its 1944 configuration. I have also been struggling with my references to figure out the likely colour of the famous camouflage patches painted on her main deck ca. July, 1944 and what, if anything, was the scheme on her hull sides at that time (was it the same dark grey as the vertical surfaces of her lower superstructure and Anton and Dora turrets?). To Robert Lockie: do your references give this information? I have to say, that in this regard it sure has been a lot easier doing her sister, Bismarck. I've chosen to model Bismarck as per the well-known photograph of her in December, 1940, lying in Kiel Bay, in overall pale grey. I'm hoping the two ships, when I finally get them both done, will make an interesting comparison, being of the same class but with four long years of war experience and modifications between them. I just wish Tirpitz hadn't changed her paint scheme every day of the week...! cheers, John Maine Cold and drizzly in Kitchener, Ontario ("Mon pays ce n'est pas un pays, c'est l'hiver!", etc., etc.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: "Sean D. Hert" Subject: IJN Warships >> A good place to start is Plastic Ship Modeller 95/4 (which I've lent out). Dan will most probably confirm if this is appropriate or not. << Do you have any contact info for them to get back issues? Thx, Sean D. Hert Webmeister, MBG Site: http://www.netwalk.com/~popev/bg/ IJN Mogami (Fitting Out) Hi gang, I'd thought I'd reply to Seans request on the list, so that anyone else who wanted PSM would benefit. Even though the article I quoted isn't applicable :-((. Also seeing as I'm a subscriber, I can heartily recommend PSM. PSM is available from the following: Dan Jones: Editor at dhjonespsm@juno.com White Ensign Models (Caroline & Dave) at xdt22@dial.pipex.com & their site at http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models There are other outlets in other countries, but your best bet would be to contact Dan for up to date info. HTH Shane 24C & a nice cool breeze. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: WVeigele@aol.com Subject: Forgotten Ships Many small craft of World War II were forgotten by historians. A group of sailors founded the 2,000 member Patrol Craft Sailors Association (PCSA) whose motto is "Too Good To Be Forgotten." They publish a Newsletter and hold annual reunions. You can visit their website at: httpwww.ww2pcsa.org/pcsa/htm For more information contact me. Among books about small ships is "PC Patrol Craft of World War II - A History of the Ships and Their Crews." Some PCs were manned by Coast Guard crews. It can be viewed at: http://members.aol.com/wveigele/pcraft/pcraft.htm and is reviewed by Rob Mackie on the SMML website. Bill Veigele -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Rob Mackie" Subject: Re: USS Salem Models Those of you building either the Classic Warships 1:350 Salem or the Accurate Image 1:700th version should avail yourselves of the USS Salem photo tour at: http://warship.simplenet.com/Salem%20CA%20139.htm I photographed her in August 1998 and concentrated on details of interest to ship modelers. There are 50 photos. Another excellent Salem resource is Bill Schnakenburg's USS Salem page. Bill served on the Salem for 3 years in the late 1950s. His page has photos as well as a very thorough Classic Warships 1:350 Salem build-up article. He provides many construction tips, corrections, diagrams etc. Don't miss his article if you are building the Classic Warship Salem. Bill's Salem page can be found at http://members.xoom.com/ltwes329/salem.html Rob Mackie Warship http://warship.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: Model Shows WEM are attending,, Hi Guys, Have had a few posting off SMMLlies re. forthcoming model show rumours... so here we go. White Ensign Models will be at the following Model Shows Please drop by and say "Hallo". There will be plenty of Special Offers on these days! We will be at the Fleet Air Arm Model Show at the FAA Museum at Yeovilton, Somerset (a hop, skip and jump from the M5, M4 and Bath) on 20th February .. this Saturday.. Come and Check Out "The Carrier Experience" as well as one of the finest collections of aircraft in Europe! Once again we will be in the Swordfish Centre (behind the restaurant) We will be at "Truks and Traks" at Leas Cliffe Hall at Folkestone, Kent, on 27th and 28th February 1999. 10-5 both days This is the LARGEST model (Military and Civilian) Vehicle Show in Europe and is only 10 minutes from the Cross-Channel ferry port for Continental visitors. Yes, I know we don't do vehicles (well, except for 1/700 Scale!) but if you look at it our way, we've got no competition either! This year we are in the "Main Hall" at Truks and Traks, which makes a pleasant change from being locked away in a cupboard (first year) or in the basement where no-one could find us last year. Please contact us for any further details you might require... O.K so which of you SMMLlies are coming this weekend? Perhaps you could all say "Hi" to us and each other at, say 1.30 pm (it'll be far too busy before lunch!). Typical discussions at the FAA (on the WEM stand of course) will range from AA fit of Rodney and Nelson (BE THERE Mr DRAGE!! I'll ask my matey Steve Millard to bring his VERY extensive research on this subject along..) to Snyder and Shorts latest camouflage chip releases (they're going down great lads!!), to the new and forthcoming titles fron WR Press, so be there if you can! Cheers! Caroline and Dave Carter White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Jeff Herne Subject: Accurate Image Models Announcement Hi gang, Just a quick note to all those who ordered the 1944 San Francisco...your wait is over, the kits are shipping this week. Thank you for your patience, you'll find a little token of our gratitude in each of your kits. AND...in keeping with our tradition of offering affordable models, we're dropping the prices on our APD-1 and APD-37 kits from $75.00 to $64.95. Your response to these kits has been great, many thanks. Our USS Salem in 1/700 will be ready to ship in about 2 weeks, as soon as we get these San Franciscos out the shop. It will retail for $49.95. Stay tuned for more information. Now...on to new releases...we'll be announcing some radical new stuff in the next few weeks, some big, small, some in between, so be sure to check Warship for updates. Best regards, Jeff Herne & Jon Warneke Accurate Image Models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: dhjonespsm@juno.com Subject: Re:PSM 19 and Coast Guard ships When I listed the contents of PSM 19 a couple of lists back, I missed listing one of the articles. Seeing all the recent postings about Coast Guard ships and their neglect reminded me that I had omitted this from my article/contents list. In PSM 19 (in addition to all the items that WERE listed) is an article about scratch building the USCGC TAMPA in 1/700, together with 1/700 scale plans of TAMPA in the late twenties, and MODOC in about 1943-44. Also in the planning stages (I am working on the drawings now) is an article for a future issue covering several of the modern Coast Guard cutter classes, including the high endurance cutters of the HAMILTON class. We are "Coast Guard friendly" at PSM. Daniel Jones Plastic Ship Modeler magazine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Louis Dausse Subject: Re: German Imperial Warships Roger Clemens laments the lack of models of this era ships. There is a bountiful source of these ships in a little known form or modeling. That is card models. The scales range from 1:400 to 1:100. There are hundreds of ships of all kinds. In the era of the Dreadnaught and the Imperial German Navy, there are even Austro-Hungarian representives, from a Danube River monitor, through a submarine, a torpedo boat, a destroyer, up to the small battleship Radetzky and the heavy battleship Viribus Unitis. The 19th Century Italians are there with the Duilio, the French with the D'Entrecasteaux and the Germans with the 1878 armored corvett Sachsen , the 1892 costal cruiser Beowulf, the 1899 cruiser Victoria Louise. The Dreadnaught itself is in the collection. From the First World War there is a plethera. From one side the Baden, Von der Tann, Schleswig Holstein, Moltke, Goeben, König, Seydlitz, the 1910 Scharnhorst and the Emden. On the other the British Lion, the Iron Duke, the Russian Askold, even the Japanese Mikasa. The Kaiser's Yacht, Hohenzollern, has just arrived on the scene. And that is just one era. Check it out on the web at http:\\catalogcity.com/mm/pmi The ships are on pages 41 thru 49. Send for a catalog, mention SMML and we will include catalogs of ships that are too numerous to include in our main catalog. Lou Dausse, Paper Models International -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume