Subject: SMML03/03/99VOL473 Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:56:02 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Mk 6 Catapults 2: Re: Arizona Propellers 3: Removing Paint 4: Re: Re-attaching decal flags 5: Fuso book from NIPress 6: Arizona Screws 7: Re: Arizona's Propellers 8: ripped decal flag 9: Re: Arizona Propellors 10: BaD ship models 11: Re: Arizona Propellers 12: Re: AIM 1/350 San Francisco 13: Re: Ripped flag 14: Floating drydock dio -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: NEW ITEMS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note from Shane: Hi gang, Unfortunatly webtv.net has put a spamblock against my ISP(for whatever reason) tac.com.au. Until they get their acts together the following subscribers can't get SMML. Kcompany@webtv.net Jowfx@webtv.net John Fox b38cch@webtv.net Now they can still send mail to me, but can't recieve mail from me. If anyone knows these guys, could you please pass on this message. And maybe they can do something from their end. Hopefully it'll be fixed shortly, I spoke to my isp today & they were going to see what they could do. Regards, Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: RGSPEMKT@aol.com Subject: Mk 6 Catapults I am in need of information to supplement that contained in the Finescale Modeler article by David Hodges, from a couple of years back, pertaining to the Mk 6 Catapult. The aforementioned article shows basic external information, but the specifics on the internal components (all the piping, etc.) is a bit lacking. I've searched as many internet sources as possible, but come up with nothing. 'Have also referenced "Fantail Fighters" by J. Scutts and "Battleship and Cruiser Aircraft of the USN" by W. Larkins. All I really need to know is where the piping goes, and how the cable and pulley arrangements were configured. TIA John Hitzeman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "FERNANDO, YOHAN" Subject: Re: Arizona Propellers Mike, It is not unusual for the propellers on ships to have different number of blades between the inboard and outboard props. I recall reading the the North Carolina and South Dakota class BBs went through many iterations of propeller combinations to reduce the amount of vibration they experienced at different speeds. I would hazard a guess that the Naval Archive source is correct. Yohan Fernando -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: BillBramha@aol.com Subject: Removing Paint I've used oven cleaner and a toothbrush to remove paint from resin hulls. There's no harm done to the resin, but the oven cleaner will instantly dissolve any CA glue. Needless to say, wear gloves and work in a well ventilated area. Don't let your wife catch you, though, or she'll put you to work on the real oven. Bill Bramhall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Re-attaching decal flags >> Do you think another application of water will fix it back to the flagstaff or should I just leave the flag off, seeing as I don't have a spare? << I'm sure you know this by now, but try applying decal solvent to the kit part and decal. It should fuse together without too much trouble. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: MBishop446@aol.com Subject: Fuso book from NIPress I just got my Fuso book from Pacific front hobbies (thanks Bill) today. First off let me say that the author, Janusz Skulski, has done a great job. The book is better than the Yamato book. Everything is present in the book that is needed to make a great model of Fuso. The problem however in not with the author, it is with Naval Institute Press. The Fuso book has to be the most incompetent attempt at editing a book every seen. Folks, do not trust the scale given in the book. Page 90 -91for example shows the Fuso in 1915 and in 1944 at the noted scale of 1/400. Problem is the drawings are backwards and in two different sizes. The following pages will need to be checked for scale. Pages:90-91, 98-99,100-109, 110-111, 146-147, 157, 158-159, 162,164, 192-193, 234-242. Bottom line do not trust the scale given to the great line drawings. You will need to scale the drawings yourself. This really good book on the Fuso is marred by the very poor editing. Mike Bishop -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "mkrumrey" Subject: Arizona Screws In referencing Paul Stillwells "Battleship Arizona" an Illustrated History, photos of the ship in dry dock in 1930 show three bladed screws all around. The port side screws look as if they turn clockwise and the starboard counter clockwise. In the ships data section found in Appendix E. ibid. Arizona at the time of her commissioning, October 1916, had 4 four bladed props; 12 feet 1 and one half inches in diameter, following modernization, in March 1931 it was refitted with four-3 bladed: 12feet, 7 inches in diameter. In chapter 9, ibid., there is a drawing based on park service surveys, which show the hull, basically below the water line, buried in the muck. Based on this information, it would be safe to assume that at the time of the attack the Arizona was sporting the three bladed, 12' 7" diameter props. This is an outstanding book, with excellent photos of the ships history, as well as an easy readable text. It makes a great compannion book to the "USS Missouri" by the same author. Available from the Naval Institute Press. Mark Krumrey New Richmond WI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: therbert@zibex.com (Tom Herbert) Subject: Re: Arizona's Propellers It's not unusual that a ship would have both three an four-bladed screws. The reason for this is that depending on the engine arrangement of the ship, the outboard shafts may turn faster than the inboard shafts, or vice versa. The four-bladed screw has more surface area, and thus moves more water per revolution than a three-bladed screw, producing more thrust at the same number of rpm's, or an equal amount of thrust at lower rpm's. Evidence the TITANIC, which had two three-bladed screws and one four-blade. The outboard reciprocating engines turned faster than the low-pressure Parson's turbine on the center shaft. I'm not familiar with the ARIZONA's engines, but this would still seem to make sense. Tom Herbert Houston Area Live Steamers Houston Small Scale Live Steamers Katy, Texas, USA http://www.hals.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Kenneth H. Goldman" Subject: ripped decal flag Hi Shane, Try reaffixing it with a little Microscale liquid decal film. That should glue it back together nicely. A brush with about three hairs in it can be used to touch up any cracks that remain visible. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER http://www.wman.com/~khgold/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Richard - Charlotte Marelius Subject: Re: Arizona Propellors Stillwell's Battleship Arizona - An Illustrated History has some useful nformation. Appendix E, Ship's Data, provides extensive specs as of commissioning in 1916 and following the 1931 modernization. According to these specs, she was commissioned with four 4-blade propellors, and had four 3-blade propellors after the modernization, though no specific mention was made as to when the change was made - at the 1931 refit, or before. Confusing the issue a bit, the outboard profiles provided for her 1917, 1936 and 1941 outfits all show 3-blade screws, though I don't know upon what information these profiles are based. There is an early 1930's dry dock photo on page 123 where the port screws can be seen through the scaffolding, and they both appear to be 3-blade, confirming the specs in the appendix about her early '30's configuration. On page 82, there is a dry dock photo, listed as being at Bremerton in 1925, that shows the starboard screws with the inboard being 3-blade and the outboard being 4-blade. I'll have to dig into the text to see if some mention is made as to whether this photo was taken during the changeover from all 4-blade to all 3-blade screws, or if she sailed in this configuration for a time during the 1920's. This would not be unusual, as the Iowas had 5-blade screws inboard and 4-blade outboard, for their entire careers as far as I know. Rick Marelius -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: jpoutre@lehman.com (Joseph Poutre) Subject: BaD ship models Has anyone here bought a BaD ship model? I am considering buying one, but would like to know if they're worth the price. The specific model is the Asheville/Tacoma class. Thanks! Joe Co-Webmaster, Battleship New Jersey Historical Museum Society http://www.bb62museum.org/ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: Steve Singlar Subject: Re: Arizona Propellers The Arizona memorial has a web site, full of good info. I brought some books from them, but my brother has them at this moment. Also try Univ. of Arizona website. In Paul Stillwell's "Battlship Arizona" on page 123, it appears all four screws are 3 bladded. The two outboard screws are partially blocked by scaffolding. Try the USNI. I once spoke to Paul Stillwell there. If he doesn't know, no one would know. And yes, her screws are burried in the mud. When I go there in May, I'll find out for you. Regards, Steve Singlar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Frank and Carol Berger" Subject: Re: AIM 1/350 San Francisco I received my 1/350 San Francisco last Wednsday. I won't get into a review, Bradford did an excellent job in SMML 26/02/99 Vol468. However, I do want to comment on the excellent service provided by AIM. A careful study of the enclosed parts and parts list uncovered a few missing or damaged pieces. After a quick e-mail, I received the missing parts yesterday, only 5 days after I received the kit! Bravo to Jon and Jeff for a great kit and great service! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Marc Flake Subject: Re: Ripped flag Shane, Try applying some Krystal Kleer with a toothpick, then holding the flag in place until the surface glue sets. When its dry, airbrush it with some clear flat. Marc Mansfield, Texas (Where it never got up to 80, but it felt that hot in my winter wool suit) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Mike Taylor" Subject: Floating drydock dio All right, I know, I know... you'd know I'd subscribe sooner or later (an aside to some of the familiar names I've seen here). I have a question about Corsair Armada's Floating Drydock ARD-2. #1-when receiving a ship would it be stationary or under way?....... Mike T -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Bill Gruner Subject: NEW ITEMS We now have in stock the all new MB Models 1/350 scale resin kit of IJN heavy cruiser FURUTAKA. Fit is early WW2, and it appears to be very accurate as far as hull shape, etc. Price is $188.00 (list $235.00). JUST IN: From Delta/Ground Power (Japan):...WOW! 1. US Navy Submarines of WW 2, part 1....plans, drawings, color renderings, excellent photos, a must for USN sub fans...Japanese text, but so what?....$35.00 2. US Navy Submarines of WW2, part 2....as above, but this volume also covers many early USN subs all the way back to the Turtle, Confederate and Holland subs .....$35.00 Just got in a nearly complete collection of Maru Specials...if you are looking for specific issues, please call...we have the IJN, JMSDF, Campaign and US Carrier series. ANNOUNCEMENT: We have just received word that SAMEK MODELS will be releasing, over the next 6 months, the following 1/700 resin kits: (please watch our bi-monthly UPDATE for specific announcements) 1. USN Large Cruiser GUAM CB62 2. German Navy DD Z.17 D. von Roeder 3. German DD Z.19 Hermann Kuhne 4. RN Heavy Cruiser HMS York 5. French Battlecruiser Dunkerque Thank you, Bill Gruner Pacific Front Hobbies http://www.pacificfront.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume