Subject: SMML12/03/99VOL482 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 23:56:35 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: RADFORD RATIONALE/FUSO FUSILADE 2: Re: Warship Perspectives 3: USN modern F.S. Numbers 4: Re: Yamato Colors 5: Video of the Sunken Confederate Submarine H. L. Hunley Coming Soon 6: Re: Fuso book 7: Re: IJN Fuso 8: HMS Rodney/Nelson 9: Re: SMML Spruance 10: USS OREGON ANCHOR CHAINS 11: Radford 12: HMS Victory copper plating 13: Re: Yamato model 14: USS Yorktown 15: Hood v Hood 16: Re: Source for Props. 17: Re: Armored cruiser OLYMPIA, UNITED STATES photos 18: Shovelling snow!! 19: [anole] A funny joke that everyone should read!!! 20: Abercrombie and Authors 21: Revell Olympia 22: Top view needed 23: Re: Sovietski Collection sub models 24: Re: Type XXI U-boat 25: Re: SSBN Colors 26: Alfa class paint job 27: Re: Heller HMS Victory 28: Painting Wood Decks 29: Thanks for the suggestions! & Oregon P/E query 30: Bilge Keel Question 31: USS Portland 32: Re: IJN Yamato & IJN Kaga 33: schnellboot 'wolf' 34: Re: Possible 1/200 USS Olympia kit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Classic Warships web page 2: OzMods 3: HAPPY99 WARNING -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Percy, John" Subject: Re: RADFORD RATIONALE/FUSO FUSILADE >> (why didn't they think of that last year when the seven SPRUANCEs and the KIDD class DDGs were retired about 20 years sooner than would normally have been the case?). << This is kind of off-topic: I don't know too much about the Radford, but I worked for 3 years on/off the USS Kidd as a subcontrator, and let me tell you, when I heard that she was to be decommisioned I almost cried. What a fine ship she was and crew she had - IMHO, she was better than any of those top-heavy AEGIS cruiseres (and their crews) because I worked on both. She looked better too. What a loss for the Navy. Not to mention the loss of a ship named after a great naval hero. Unfortunately, this was before I got into model-building, so I didn't take any photos! Argh! John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Warship Perspectives I appreciate hearing the good and bad points about the Fuso book. It helps me make an informed decision when purchasing an expensive book. On that line, I'm currently building up my naval library and I want to know about the quality and accuracy of the two Warship profiles from WR press. The two I'm speaking of are Fletcher, Sumner and Gearing class Destroyers of WW2 and Atlanta class Cruisers. Would these books be a good addition to my library for the money? Do they have detailed drawings, etc.? Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ (Carolyn, getting on your "soap box" is a slang term in the US meaning letting your opinion publicly known. A soap box is just that, the box that bars of soap were shipped in bulk. In the 1800s politicians, when speaking to a crowd, (no PA's back then) would use a soap box to stand on, elevating them above the crowd so they could be heard). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: AZJOE1445@aol.com Subject: USN modern F.S. Numbers Hi Gang, Does anybody know if any available hobby paints (Model Master, Floquil, Tamiya etc.) closely match modern U.S. colors and if so what ones? I need them for a Ticonderoga Cruiser, a O.H.P. Frigate and a Spruance Class destroyer. Thanks. Joe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Yamato Colors I just got the Snyder & Short IJN WW2 colors sheet. If you get this sheet, you will need no other reference for IJN ship colors. It covers all naval arsenals (ship yards) used by the IJN and tells which ship was manufactured where. You can then cross reference that to the proper colors for almost any IJN vessel. A nice touch is the addition of the linoleum and teak deck colors. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "John Harloe" Subject: Video of the Sunken Confederate Submarine H. L. Hunley Coming Soon This is a short note to tell those who are interested that a 6 1/2 minute video taken by the National Park Service will soon premier on: http://www.cottage-industries.com 's web site. The people at broadcast.com have done a wonderful job helping me prepare the video for the web. The shots include a diver who videos the front conning tower, airbox, deadlights, and the front breakwater. Simply incredible view of the first submarine ever to sink an enemy ship during war. You may want to download now realplayer from www.real.com. It's free. I will post another note when I have this project completed. John Harloe Charleston Distributors http://www.cottage-industries.com Please Consider Supporting the "Friends of the Hunley" a non profit group whose goal is to raise $20 million to complete the Hunley's journey and bring her home. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Jon Parshall Subject: Re: Fuso book Also regarding the Fuso book, this may not matter much to the ship modeler, per se, but the details Skulski provides regarding Fuso's sinking in the Battle of Surigao Strait, including the image of her forward superstructure toppling over like a sand castle, are highly suspect and at variance with the bulk of both U.S. and Japanese sources. My friend Tony Tully and I are in the midst of preparing an article on Fuso's demise to be posted to the Imperial Japanese Navy Homepage sometime in the future. Just an FYI. On the whole, though, I am very happy to have this book in my collection. jon parshall- Imperial Japanese Navy Homepage http://www.skypoint.com/members/jbp/kaigun.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Re: IJN Fuso No I have no intention of returning the book either but that doesn't alter the fact that it was not one of Conway's best offerings. I would also point out that a report in Britain recently printed names and addresses of witnesses putting their lives at risk. Why? Because the publishers did not bother to check (a simple phone call would have sufficed) that these were meant to be there. Difference in importance and scale, certainly but you see where a failure to attend to detail and to check leads too. Too much time nowadays is spent inventing excuses not to make the extra effort. I may not be returning this book but I won't be buying anymore by Conway until I see that the quality is up to scratch. To reiterate the subject was excellent, the detail was excellent, the execution was shoddy and can and should be improved. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Robert A. Clifton, R.A." Subject: HMS Rodney/Nelson Has anybody purchased the Iron Shipwright 1/350 scale kit of this ship, and as important, has anybody begun its construction? I checked out the preview in Warship, and it appeared to be on about the same level as the IJN Kirshima by Classic Warships, which seemed a bit heavy in some of the details. Would this be a correct evaluation? Any good or bad reports would be appreciated. Thank you. Bob Clifton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Re: SMML Spruance Allan Plumb (plumb@phoenix.net) Wrote: >> Hmm. A Spruance should be cheaper and much-more-available than an Iowa. Maybe us SMMLies should take up a collection and buy ourselves one. So, Shane, how many of us are there? Enough for a crew? We could take her on long cruises to all the maritime museums of the world... Hoo boy! << Shane replied: << Well, lets see, Spraunce/Kidd class DD's has a crew of approx 350, so while I don't want to give the number of subscribers away just yet(it keeps changing), let's just say we could crew 2 of them(that's not taking into account the subscribers who have 2 or more accounts). << Probably Three, seeing that we don't really need the offensive armament of a Spruance. Recent events indicate in might not hurt for SMML to have a few defensive systems, though (And we certainly would want to keep an active ECM system...) Now everyone here would want to steer the darned thing, but who gets to chip the paint? (Nice to see you volounteer Kurt ;->> : Captain Shane) SMML - not just a list, but an adventure! Kurt Greiner SeaPhoto Maritime Photography (near San Francisco, where it is 62, and Sunny - even a Spruance in port to visit - doesn't get much better than this!) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "scola" Subject: USS OREGON ANCHOR CHAINS Does anyone what scale/size anchor chians to use on the Oregon and where I might be able to get them. Thanks, Rich -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: tom Subject: Radford >> This is a prime example of the "Defense Dividend" touted by the left wing "commie" liberals that have had control of our defense dollars for so long. They never worked in any "accidental" contingeny plans. << Now that two of the worst "left wing commie liberal" enemies of the defense budget are leaving congress to become lobbyists I have a plan to fund the repair of the Radford. The Air Force has been saying for years that they don't want or need any more C-130s yet money continues to be allocated and the Air Force is even told *where* the unneeded planes must be based. I propose that all the money from the C-130 program be used on the Radford! Of course that means some pork barrel jobs in Newt Gingrichs (assembly) and Bob Livingstons (basing) districts will be lost! Once that is done the massive excess HUMVEE production is the next target! Of course that'll be contrary to the wishes of Congressman Hyde and Senator Kohl. Oh yeah, what was that part about liberals messing up the defense budget? Best regards, Tom Kremer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Matti Kurki Subject: HMS Victory copper plating I have some years ago built Corel's 1/98th scale HMS Victory amd now I'm building the same kit although this time in 1/100th scale by Heller. As the copper plating is already represented nicely I was wondering if any of you had suggestions how to give it a realistic look. I have been thinking using Bare Metal real coppr foil or SnJ's copper paint and buffing powder. Any opinions and suggestions are most welcome. Thank you in advance, Matti -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Duane Fowler Subject: Re: Yamato model >> Has any one built the nichimo 1/200 scale of the Yamato to put in the gallery. Also are you going to show the 1/192 scale model by sterling of the USS Missouri << THE YAMATO! THERE IS THAT NAME AGAIN! THE SHIP THAT RUINED MY LIFE! Slowly I turned. Step by step... Best regards, Duane (Yamatoholic) Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Darrell Cook Subject: USS Yorktown Can someone tell me the color scheme on the Yorktown circa 1942? Thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Douglas Martin" Subject: Hood v Hood Folks: I found the comparisons between the 2 'Hood' kits on the 'Warship' site quite fascinating, noticing the different 'shapes' to the hull, deck fittings, placements, panels, detail etc. All we need now is the 'Tamiya' version for a third opinion? Douglas (Scotland) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: MDeskin@aol.com Subject: Re: Source for Props. Bruce Ross wrote: >> I'm currently building a 1/144th model of the Coontz class DLG/DDG that I served on, and I'm wondering if anyone knows of a source for ordering a pair of 3 bladed 1 inch diameter screws, right and left handed. The guy who was doing them for Floating Drydock where I had ordered in the past has died so any help will be greatly appreciated. << Try contacting Dave Manley of Small World Models. His email address is: dmanley1@san.rr.com Dave is making propellors in bronze, some nice work. You should see some of his 7 bladed props for submarines. Charley Stephans in Florida makes props also!! His E-mail address is WingMan174@aol.com Mikey -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Re: Armored cruiser OLYMPIA, UNITED STATES photos I have photos of those two ships to share as well Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: McKellar Subject: Shovelling snow!! >> having to sit on the patio and work on models in 75-80 degree temps. Gawd it's been a hard winter here in Phoenix! << We had 9 *%_$@@!#$#£¡£§ƒ¢¡*¶ªºÝŸ© inches of the stuff last weekend - when I was done moving it around I was too ^)*_$@@!#$#£¡ tired to model. Mark - Boston area -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: [anole] A funny joke that everyone should read!!! For your amusement The following is an accident report which was printed in the newsletter of the British equivalent of the Workers' Compensation Board. This is the bricklayer's report...a true story: >>> Dear Sir: I am writing in response to your request for additional information in Block #3 of the accident report form. I put "Poor Planning" as the cause of my accident. You asked for a fuller explanation and I trust the following details will be sufficient. I am a bricklayer by trade. On the day of the accident, I was working alone on the roof of a new six story building. When I completed my work, I found I had some bricks left over which, when weighed later were found to be slightly in excess of 500 lbs. Rather than carry the bricks down by hand, I decided to lower them in a barrel by using a pulley which was attached to the side of the building at the sixth floor. Securing the rope at ground level, I went up to the roof, swung the barrel out and loaded the bricks into it. Then I went down and untied the rope, holding it tightly to insure a slow descent of the bricks. You will note in block #11 of the accident report form that my weight is 135 lbs. Due to my surprise at being jerked off the ground so suddenly, I lost my presence of mind and forgot to let go of the rope. Needless to say, I proceeded at a rapid rate up the side of the building. In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel, which was now proceeding downward at an equally impressive speed. This explains the fractured skull, minor abrasions and the broken collarbone, as listed in Section 3 of the accident report form. Slowed only slightly, I continued my rapid ascent, not stopping until the fingers of my right hand were two knuckles deep into the pulley. Fortunately by this time I had regained my presence of mind and was able to hold tightly to the rope, in spite of the excruciating pain I was now beginning to experience. At approximately the same time however, the barrel of bricks hit the ground and the bottom fell out of the barrel. Now devoid of the weight of the bricks, the barrel weighed approximately 50 lbs. I refer you again to my weight. As you might imagine, I began a rapid descent down the side of the building. In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel coming up. This accounts for the two fractured ankles, broken tooth and severe lacerations of my legs and lower body. Here my luck began to change slightly. The encounter with the barrel seemed to slow me enough to lessen my injuries when I fell into the pile of bricks and fortunately only three vertebrae were cracked. I am sorry to report however, as I lay there on the pile of bricks in pain, unable to move, I again lost my composure and presence of mind and let go of the rope. I lay there watching the empty barrel begin its journey back down to me. This explains the two broken legs. This explains why I cited "poor planning" as the cause of the accident. << Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Vimieraa@aol.com Subject: Abercrombie and Authors I was interested to read the item on the Abercrombie, and it prompted me to look through Buxton's book on Big Gun Monitors; a fine piece of work and one that I assume is out of print. On the matter of a model of the Abercrombie, I feel that a resin kit of same or of her sister ship the Roberts would be well received. The plans could be taken from Buxton's book and there are plenty of close-photos available. On the subject of the author J Skulski being the greatest visual describer of ships, I have to dissagree. I mention the name of one J Bouriot, for as good as the former is, the latter is far superior. Skulski is not in the same league. To support my argument one only has to look through the outstanding four volume book on the Seventy Four Gun Ship. It IS about sailing ships but not withstanding, is has absolutely NO EQUAL in terms of completness of the written word and of line art. I would welcome comments on the comparative qualities of both books. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Revell Olympia Hi: Just saw a note on Rec.Models.Scale that the Olympia kit is on the schedule for the next group of re releases from Revell, for this summer. Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Evert-Jan Subject: Top view needed For my extremely slow but yet progressing article, I need a good top view (Absolute top) of a battleship or battlecruiser at speed, clearly showing the wave pattern. I need it to augment my absolute and final proof that the angle of a bowwave is 39.5 degrees or less (And then you really have no excuses for doing otherwise). The picture should preferably show the ship, and one to two ship lengths of the sea behind her. Also, the nicer the weather, the better. I already have a picture of a freighter on the desired requirement for the shape of the general wavepattern, but a battleship is much better. It's important that the view is directly from above, so a 39.5 angle can be drawn into the photograph. It doesn't matter at what speed the battleship sails, or if it is WWII or not. I cannot use pictures of high speed destroyers or cruisers, as they have a smaller angle at high speeds (As will be explained in the article). I am considering of using a picture of a swimming duck just to show you how insensitive the bowwave angle is to hull shape (Quacker ship?) Could someone send me a nice high-res scan (I'll clean it up later) including where he/she got it (scource)? I also tried to start on a nice example how to calculate displacement, wetted surface, stability, tons per inch sinkage etc from a simple linedrawing. As some of you know, I am currently not within reach of my books, so I got a book from the library, being Garzke&Dulins US battleships. However, their line drawings do not meet the given numbers. The breadth of the Iowa-class is 32.97 meters, and the scale of the linedrawing gives a hull depth of 16.93 meters. Am I using the wrong figures or are the numbers in the book simply wrong? Fortunately, the library had a copy of Robert Brown's Battlecruiser Hood, so I'll use that line drawing (I spend years looking for that book, and there it was). Evert-Jan Foeth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Sovietski Collection sub models >> I received a catalog of Soviet era (note politically correct absence of comments) memorabilia from an outfit called Sovietski Collection, in which they are offering display models of Soviet sub's in 1/200 and 1/300. Does anyone have any experience with those models? << Ron, Post this over on the SubCommittee static model Bulletin Board. Maybe someone has heard of this outfit. I'm a member of the SubCommittee, do static subs, and have never heard of these guys. I'm sure many in the SC would be happy to gear of this. We're at: http://www.wolfsong.com/SubCommittee/ Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Type XXI U-boat >> I am building the Dragon/DML 1/350 Type 21 U Boat. Could anyone help me with wartime photos of these craft, as I am unable to find any. I have checked U Boat Net, but the photos there are of the restored U-2540. I am unsure how closely its appearance is to the wartime appearance of these boats. Also, I have heard that the conning tower of U-2511 was painted white at one time, I would like to depict this ship if I can possibly get some photos of her. << Hi Tony, I have a whole book (in German) on the Type XXI U-boat. It has multiple hull sections, both longitudinal and hull frame sections. You could almost build one from these plans. It also has many B&W shots of exterior and interior. Email me at Ives100@aol.com Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: SSBN Colors >> Also, the screw in the retooled 1/350 688 boat is much better than the screw in >the 1/350 Ohio. << FYI This refers to the USS Hampton kit of a 688I. There are two screws in this kit, the old, CCW turning smaller one (WRONG! Throw it out!) and the new, crescent blade, beautifully sculptured CW turning screw. That one is a beaut and possibly close to a security violation! The rest of the DML Hampton kit gets a B-. You need to replace the stern of the existing hull with the new stern that DML provides (missing the vertical tail fins on the stern plane, which were never on the 688's). To do this, get out your jeweller's saw and putty! The VLS Tomahawk tubes on the Hampton are in the wrong configuration, seriously downgrading the model ('cause they ain't easy to fix!). Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: valiant@home.com Subject: Alfa class paint job Hello all, Since my Alfa class sub is almost ready for paint, I need to know what to paint it exactly. Dragon's paint guide for the sub is the same as thier typhoon kit (which I've already done). For the upper hull colour they say to use gunze sangyo H339 engine gray which I found to be too light, so I used H401 dark gray instead and liked the result much better. I used H82 dark gray as per instuction for the lower hull and it seems good to me. Of course I'm colour blind, so don't take my word for it. I've seen a few built kits on the navis site in the gallery and they're both painted differently! Ah well. to each his own I guess. and please don't tell how to mix my own! i'm colour blind! I have Tamiya, Model Master, Gunze, Humbrol and Aeromaster enamels within easy reach. By the way, could I use the same painting advice someone gave for painting Ohio class boomers earier in the week on my LA class? Thanks in advance all Aaron Propper modeler on the loose P.S. the info for painting the LA class subs was very helpful...... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: "Steve Sobieralski" Subject: Re: Heller HMS Victory Every reference I have ever seen on the Victory, including Longridge's "Anatomy of Nelson's Ships", McKay's "Anatomy of the Ship" and photos of the real ship, shows an ornately canopied entry port amidships at the middle deck level with a series of side ladder rungs which are very wide from the waterline to the entry port and then continue much narrower from the entry port to the quarterdeck, jogging to miss a gunport on the way,. The Heller kit, however, has an extra gun port where the entry port should be and a series of very narrow side ladder rungs which extend straight from the waterline to the quarterdeck. Is this configuration correct for any period in Victory's life? I find it hard to accept that Heller would invest so much effort and research into a large expensive kit like this and include such an obvious discrepancy without some historical basis for it, particularly as the real ship is so readly accessible. Steve Sobieralski -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: "ELBERT14" Subject: Painting Wood Decks I'm just finishing up Tamiya's 1/700 Prince of Wales and will then start their 1/700 Hood. I painted the decks according to Loren Perry's method of airbrushing them mud colored, then dry brushing on driftwood stain, then dry brushing on walnut stain. I'd like to follow that method for Hood, but my driftwood stain dried up in the jar and I can't find it anywhere to replace. I've heard you can mix your own using Floquil Grime diluted with diosol. Has anyone tried this? How much do you dilute it? Does anyone have any methods they would recommend for getting realistic wood decks? Thanks for your help. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: Douglas Bauer Subject: Thanks for the suggestions! & Oregon P/E query I'd like to thank everyone for their suggestions on how to safely remove Future floor wax from a painted model...your prompt and often innovative ideas were most appreciated. I have a question for anyone who is doing or has completed the Glencoe USS OREGON: I'm using the GMM P/E set for my model (since I had already purchased it before Tom's ModelWorks came out with theirs) - are GMM's ladders too short? Sure looks like it to me. If you went ahead and used them anyway, how did they look on the finished model? Thanks again, SMMLers, Doug Bauer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Bilge Keel Question I hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question, but on several of my resin models there appears to be a molding of circular stock alongside the bilge keel. Is this just a support for the thin bilge keels during molding, or was this an actual part of the real ships' bilge keels which should be left on the model? My Accurate Image San Franciso and my Iron Shipwright Alaska both feature this. Thanks for any help, Robert Morgan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: YHSAIO@aol.com Subject: USS Portland Hello: I have Classic Warship's USS Portland and for some reason I lost my instructions (cluttered kitchen table- also known as the workbench). If anyone can send me a copy, contact me off post. While we are on the subject, CWs's Portland has the stack extension on the forefunnel. Anyone know when this was removed? Terzibaschitsch indicates late 1942-early 1943 in his book. I'm assuming that Portland had the extension thorughout the naval battles of Guadacanal. Am I right? Also, Northhampton had this extension (as shown in a photo in the same book). Did she have it when she was lost at Tassafaronga? Any other US heavy cruisers have the extension? Yunchi Hsaio -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32) From: "Sean Phoenix" Subject: Re: IJN Yamato & IJN Kaga >> I'm in the process of building 1/700 scale BB Yamato and CV Kaga and I'd like to add accessory parts to them. Problem is that Skywave makes 5 or so IJN accessory kits and I don't know which ones are best for the two ships I mentioned. Any advice would be appreciated. << There is an extensive article on navis that shows the content of those sets and describes how to use them. If you don't subscribe you should, IMHO it's the best online resource for ship modellers. It's at http://navismagazine.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33) From: Ron or Julie Hillsden Subject: schnellboot 'wolf' Hi SMMLies, A fellow club member has plans for a type 55 Schnellboot 'wolf', but the plans are are suspect. He has a couple of specific questions: 1. How many propellers? The plan says 1, he suspects 4? 2. What is the correct colour? he suspects a very light grey, almost white? 3. Can anyone suggest a reference? Thanks in advance. I think this may have been covered before, so please forgive the questions. I didn't retain the answers because I don't model this type of vessel. If someone points me at the correct issues, I don't mind going to the archives! Ron in Victoria BC Canada where spring has finally sprung! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34) From: RCClem@aol.com Subject: Re: Possible 1/200 USS Olympia kit There was mention on another list that someone may be working on a 1/200 kit of the USS Olympia. Are there any more details? Who is making this kit? When may it be issued? $hould I $tart $aving now? A confirmed and commited Olympimaniac: Roger Clemens Hinsdale, Illinois -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Classic Warships web page To all who are interested, Classic Warships is on line (at last). Nothing fancy, but a full listing of Steve's products and up coming releases. The URL is: http://www.clever.net/dfk/com/cw/cw.html Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Greg Anderson" Subject: OzMods Hi Shane: So you've only got one resin kits, and it happens to be one of ours! We're honoured! Thanks for the plug on SMML, it is much appreciated ... we've already had several E-mail enquiries. I've just E-mailed Darren in Canada and given him further details on our current ship kits and the status on Melbourne (which is, that 12 months ago, the hull mastering and research were complete, and that's where it still stands - two other major projects of our own, 36 commercial projects for other model brands and other industries, running a publishing business and horse stud, keeping the kids and grandkids in order, and trying to advance my pilot's licence to something more credible for my age, all just keep getting in the way!). As I explained to Darren, Melbourne is a priority ... it just happens to be somewhere in a pile of other priorities. But we'll get there ... sooner rather than later, I hope! As for the 1/350 Vampire, it has been very well received. It is a completely different approach to our 1/700 and 1/600 ship kits in that, obviously, it is super detailed. It has decals,real metal scale anchor chain, special high-tech resin used for the masts, etc that won't break or snap, and photoetch for everything except the railings (our research shows that 9-out-of-10 potential purchasers don't want it; furthermore the cost of including it would be about the same as the price asked for it by Gold Medal, Eduard, etc, so modellers who want it know where it can be obtained). I'll keep you posted on developments with our ship kits (we'll only be doing 1/350 from now on). Thanks again for mentioning OzMods. Kindest regards, Greg Anderson Accept the Challenges and you will Taste the Victory!! OZMODS AUSTRALIAN MODELS Tel + 617 3818 0137 Fax + 617 3818 3043 Email greg@ozmods.com.au Postal address: PO Box 1083, Gailes, QLD 4300, Australia. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume