Subject: SMML13/03/99VOL483 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 01:36:22 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Bilge Keel Question 2: Re: Modern Navy Haze Gray 3: Re: IS and WEM Hood comparison 4: Battleship deck planking 5: Re: Painting Decks 6: Flame-SMML1103 7: MUSEUM SPRUANCE 8: Re: Classic Warships web page 9: Re: USS Yorktown 10: Re: Classic Warships Web Site 11: Re: OzMods HMAS Melbourne 12: Re: Portland 13: Re: YORKTOWN Colours 14: Re: Painting Wood Decks 15: Re: USN Modern Paints 16: Re: Victory copper 17: Re: Heller HMS Victory 18: Re: SMS Defflinger 19: Victorys copper plates 20: Yamato and a 'Wanted' request! 21: Hellers HMS Victory 22: Re: Radford Reality Check 23: MK48/ADCAP 24: Re: Yorktown 1942 Colors 25: Schnellboot WOLF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: OzMods Kits 1/600 review 2: WEM going Off-line.. 3: INDIA INTERNATIONAL MARITIME EXPO'99 (INMEX '99) 4: Warship Perspectives -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: ironship@usit.net (Jon Warneke) Subject: Re: Bilge Keel Question >> I hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question, but on several of my resin models there appears to be a molding of circular stock alongside the bilge keel. Is this just a support for the thin bilge keels during molding, or was this an actual part of the real ships' bilge keels which should be left on the model? My Accurate Image San Franciso and my Iron Shipwright Alaska both feature this. << Not a dumb question at all. Since I'm the guy who put them there, I guess it's appropriate for me to answer... The reason those backings are in there is to assist in casting and shipping. I use Evergreen strip .020" thick for the bilge keels, and once cast, they are fragile. However, we've found that by adding the backing the breakage rate drops considerably during shipping. That's the first reason, and here's the second. The San Francisco's a one piece hull and the Alaska's a two piece hull, and this applies more to the one piece style. That hull is cast upside down, and so the bilge keels are at the top during casting. Because of this, they like to act as air traps, and have a propensity to close up during casting if left as .020" strip. But if those backings are there, the resin will flow completely into the bilge keel, and the extra width keeps them from closing up and trapping shreds of bilge keel in the mold. As for the air getting trapped, you should also have a rod-like shape on the outside of the keel, and in placed it'll only be partially formed. These are the air traps, and instead of deforming the bilge keels, they deform the rod, which is to be removed anyhow. These braces can either be removed or left on. I've tried to make them so when the model is displayed, they are invisible, but if they aren't, a small file or piece of folded sandpaper should clean them right out. Jon Warneke Iron Shipwrights -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Modern Navy Haze Gray >> Model Master, Floquil, Tamiya etc.) closely match modern U.S. colors and if so what ones? I need them for a Ticonderoga Cruiser, a O.H.P. Frigate and a Spruance Class destroyer. << I use Model Master paint exclusively. You need two colors for Haze Gray. Testors' Camouflage Gray and Testors' Medium Gray. Medium Gray is essential since it has the characteristic blue tint found on naval vessels. Camouflage Gray is really a very very light gray, almost white. It's perfect for any white color on /700 and /350 scale models. I's not a bright white. It's toned down to a more "scale" color. To make Haze Gray mix two parts Medium Gray with one part Camouflage Gray. This makes a pretty close match to Haze Gray. For /700 scale models add more Camouflage Gray. Hope this helps. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. Ships and Tips http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: IS and WEM Hood comparison I too found the comparison of the two Hoods very informative. What I thought was especially interesting was the comparison of what Mackie calls "aggressive casting." Which was IS cast many of the parts (such as splinter shields) much thinner than the WEM Hood. He calls it "aggressive casting" because when casting parts that thin you produce more unusable parts due to casting to the limit the resin can cast. WEM while producing some slightly thicker parts, resulted in much less loss. This is an interesting comparison of two different styles of master pattern design and construction. No doubt about it. WEM Models also does some VERY "aggressive casting" as well. I have seen the 1/700 Chester kit and it's parts are incredibly thin and realistic. But with small models I guess you can afford to cast more "aggressively" since the loss per part (in this case the hull/superstructure) is much less. Both kits are just great and worth every penny. This comparison was a great read and I hope Rob Mackie will do more of them. Check out the comparison on the Warship site. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. Ships and Tips http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Gene Larson Subject: Battleship deck planking There has been some discussion on several lists about the deck planking on USS Texas. Maybe not the same, but I thought you might be interested in some digital photos I took last month on the battleship North Carolina memorial. The deck planking shows up quite well. To see the photos go to the NRG web site. *Under "THE GUILD'S ASSISTANCE TO RESEARCHERS AND MODEL BUILDERS" *Click on: "Maritime Institution Survey, Museum Listing and Links" *Go to "North Carolina" *Click on "U.S.S. NORTH CAROLINA BATTLESHIP MEMORIAL, Wilmington" Please be patient while the images download. Hope this helps. Gene Larson, Alexandria, Virginia mailto:genenrg@Naut-Res-Guild.org Nautical Research Guild, Inc. http://www.Naut-Res-Guild.org "A non-profit, tax exempt, educational organization with international membership, dedicated to maritime research and accurate ship model building." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "scola" Subject: Re: Painting Decks Floquil makes a driftwood stain #110720 you should be able find it at any hobby shop especially one that has a large selection of Floquil Marine Colors. I've used the same method you describe except I use Natural Pine (Floquil #110722) instead of walnut. I found the walnut to be a bit too dark. Just my preference. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: BALJ1017@aol.com Subject: Flame-SMML103 Isn't there some inconsistency here? 1) Members discussing the merits of a book in a spirited but reasonably polite manner are warned that flame should be avoided 2) A member is allowed to call those who may not agree with his views on government spending priorities "liberal commies" with no such warning I realize that most SMMLies are too young to remember McCarthyism first hand, but surely such language can still be recognised for what it is? Denis Johnson Hi gang, Well, I'll throw the above topic open for discussion, as I'm really still learning how to moderate My POV as a moderator & as a 35 yr old aussie is: A) My "warning" post was really meant to keep it from escalating to the next level. I'm all for spirited discussions, but I'd rather step in & give a "gentle" warning before it goes to the next level or "beyond". That way, I don't have to send back posts if they go OTT. Now what constitutes a flame/OTT will vary from person to person. And as I alluded to the other day, with over 700 subscribers, you won't be able to please everyone. It's either cater to the lowest common denominator or possibly offend someone IMHO. The alternative could be a sterile PC enviroment. B) Now "Liberal commie" is more a American term IMHO, so I really didn't think too much about it & as the poster then "stepped off the soapbox", I let it go. Being Australian, Liberal over here means the same as GOP, Tories etc, so if I was to take it literally in aus speak, it would really be a oxymoron ;-). Seriously though, no I didn't live thru McCarthyism, so maybe, I don't attach the same meaning to the phrase. It really does comes down to a personal perspective. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Baker Subject: MUSEUM SPRUANCE Of possible interest to the incredibly wealthy SMMLies who wish to acquire a real SPRUANCE with which to play, the CONOLLY, stricken last year, is on hold for possible museum service. With regard to ship draftsmen, M. Bouriot's work is indeed magnificent, but his work depicted the age of sail, whereas Mr.Skulski is working at a different era. The work of England's John Roberts and John Lambert is also absolutely superb. Aren't we all lucky to have such wonderful, talented people doing all these wonderful drawings for us modellers (and, more importantly, doing the necessary research before preparing them), despite being criticized for showing, in effect, 2,901 rivets on the fourth crosstree when the real number was 2,908, according to someone who, of course, has no way of telling? If all we will accept is perfect drawings, or perfect kits, or perfect books, then we won't have much to work with, will we? Much better to take what you can get--and make it better. A.D.Baker,III -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "FERNANDO, YOHAN" Subject: Re: Classic Warships web page >>. To all who are interested, Classic Warships is on line (at last). Nothing fancy, but a full listing of Steve's products and up coming releases. The URL is: http://www.clever.net/dfk/com/cw/cw.html << While this may be a Classic Warships page, it doesn't seem to be the current one. It is listed as being last updated in 1995 or 1996! The link off of the Warship page is the most up-to-date site. Yohan Fernando -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Re: USS Yorktown Darrell Yorktown was painted Measure 12 early in 1942. The squadron/signal publication Warship No.5 US Aircraft Carriers in Action Part 1 has a nice colour representation of this scheme and several photos Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: John MacDonald Subject: Re: Classic Warships Web Site OOPS! I don't think so! Take a good look at the site. This is the old Classic Warships site that hasn't been updated for 3-4 years. I understand Steve is working on a new site but this one isn't it - yet. John MacDonald -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: Pieter Cornelissen Subject: Re: OzMods HMAS Melbourne >> I explained to Darren, Melbourne is a priority ... it just happens to be somewhere in a pile of other priorities. But we'll get there ... sooner rather than later, I hope! << I hope you'll be sooner. A stockist of Artitec models I spoke to a few months ago told me HrNLMs Karel Doorman would be released by the end of the summer. That does not mean this will happen, but if it does, there will be some very intersting comparisons te be made, as Karel Doorman and Melbourne are very different variations on the same theme (1942 light fleets wih an angled deck). Depending on my financial situation by then I'll probably order both. BTW anyone thinking about a conversion to a Bonavature, think again. This was a very different ship from both Melbourne and Karel Doorman. Pieter Cornelissen Delft, the Netherlands new job, new spring, to bad photo-etch is not suited for modelling on the balcony -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Torgeson Roger A KPWA Subject: Re: Portland Yunchi, I just had a quick look at Friedman's U.S. Cruiser book, and Silverstone's U.S. Warships of World War II. Friedman's book on page 135 states that the Northamptons fore funnel was cut down when she returned to Pearl Harbor after the Marshall-Gilbert islands raid in March 1942. The same book, on page 313, shows a picture of Portland dated 14 June 1942 with the fore funnel extension. Silverstone's book on page 73 shows a 22 April 1943 picture with out the extension. I don't remember the date, during one of the Guadalcanal battles that Portland was torpedoed. I would assume it was during the repair, that the extension was removed. Now that assumption leaves me wide open for a major case of "Egg On The Face". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: YORKTOWN Colours She was in Measure 12, Sea Blue (5-S) from the waterline up to the line of the hangar deck, with Ocean Gray (5-0) above, and Haze Gray (5-H) superstructure. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: Painting Wood Decks As regards making stains for washes, I'd recommend getting hold of some tubes of artist's oil colors. You can thin these with turpentine, and mix virtually any shade desired to any degree of thinness. Apply as a wash, and the turps shouldn't affect lacquer, enamel, or acrylic-based paints. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: USN Modern Paints Both the modern Haze Gray and Deck Gray are available in model paints. We've provided the FS numbers to Bill Gruner at Pacific Front. I don't have them readily available, but you could give Bill a call or an e-mail. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: Victory copper Matti, The copper foil will work however, a less expensive, easier way is to paint the copper area flat black or flat dark brown. Mask off above the copper to keep from messing up the other paint and wipe on a coat of Rub'N Buff copper, working bow to stern. You can get it looking like real copper, buffing to to a shine or leaving it dull, and it's easy. Some craft shops have a different brand name but they are all metal flakes in wax. I have one that's 35 years old and it looks as good as when I did it. Cheers, Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: The Codes Subject: Re: Heller HMS Victory >> Every reference I have ever seen on the Victory, including Longridge's "Anatomy of Nelson's Ships", McKay's "Anatomy of the Ship" and photos of the real ship, shows an ornately canopied entry port amidships at the middle deck level with a series of side ladder rungs which are very wide from the waterline to the entry port and then continue much narrower from the entry port to the quarterdeck, jogging to miss a gunport on the way,. The Heller kit, however, has an extra gun port where the entry port should be and a series of very narrow side ladder rungs which extend straight from the waterline to the quarterdeck. Is this configuration correct for any period in Victory's life? I find it hard to accept that Heller would invest so much effort and research into a large expensive kit like this and include such an obvious discrepancy without some historical basis for it, particularly as the real ship is so readly accessible. << Hi Steve, I'm in the middle of doing this large kit myself...As near as I can tell from the Anatomy of the ship" Victory "and the anotomy of Nelsons ships the Heller kit shows Victory as she was at the end of her active career in 1812..if you want to backdate her to her 1805 apearence you will have to remove her side ladders and make her entry ports out of stock plastic or wood...The illistration in Anatomy of the ship Victory will make a nice master pattern after it is inlarged. Good luck ! Cheers, BIll C. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: The Codes Subject: Re: SMS Defflinger Hello List, As per the previous post on this ship, is there a 1/700 scale kit of this fine battlecruiser? I didnt see anything on it in the reveiw section..I'd settle for a 1/700 scale kit but would dearly love to see a 1/350 th scale model..IMHO these were the best BCs deployed during the 1st WW. Clean lines, good hitting and staying power with a moderate turn of speed ,lovely ships! Is there a review of the kit out? cheers, BC -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: The Codes Subject: Victorys copper plates Hello again list, Since I cut my heller Victory to the water line there isn't much of her copper showing on my model...I have her heeling to port so on that side there is just one run showing in places..on the starboard side there are two runs showing,,,these were painted copper and after drying were coated with washs of black, then green, then white..Im pleased with the result ,it looks like aged copper..good luck whatever you decide to do. cheers BC -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: "Douglas Martin" Subject: Yamato and a 'Wanted' request! Folks: Just spotted a 1/200 Nichimo 'Yamato' in Wonderland Models, Edinburgh.......unbuilt of course.....if I'd had to carry that home on the train..phew! A mere £250.00 (ish) Wanted: In the Tamiya catalog, 1999, page 27, there is a 'Random Japanese Warship Details Vol2' book on offer, can any of the 'shops' represented on this list obtain me a copy? I'm in the UK, have tried Rainbow Ten in Japan, no luck, and they were not able to order it from Hobby Link Japan, for some reason. Thanks, Douglas (Scotland) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Cpecksark@aol.com Subject: Hellers HMS Victory Regarding query from Steve, Two illustrations in Time Lifes Fighting Sail show the Victory during and after the Battle of Trafalgar with no sign of the entry ports. The best illustration of this appears to be on Clarkson Stanfields painting who conferred with Hardy and Codrington whilst on this work. I would guess that they were modified to prevent ease of boarding and provide another gun port. Poor old Nel probably had to shin up the side like everyone else! Bit of a mystery? Regards , Colin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Re: Radford Reality Check Mark fumed: >> This is a prime example of the "Defense Dividend" touted by the left wing "commie" liberals that have had control of our defense dollars for so long. They never worked in any "accidental" contingeny plans. << Pass the soapbox, please: 1. There was no defense dividend. Defense spending in the US DoD for the last two administrations is barely less than it was at the height of the Cold War, adjusted for inflation, despite no coherent strategy or identifiable national threat. North Korea? Iraq? Get serious. Terrorism defies a rational defense plan, but that won't affect the status quo. 2. Those left wing "commie" liberals must have put something in the water to coopt the right wing Republicans, since it is they who have directed defense authorizations for the past few years as the Congressional majority. Of course, 'Newt' Gingrich and 'Trent' Lott made sure plenty of $$$ got poured into unwanted programs in their home districts. 3. There are no special contingency plans for accidents in the defense budget, but with in excess of $250 billion to waste as it sees fit, the Pentagon doesn't need to hold a bake sale to overhaul its hardware, even if it wasn't in the schedule. 4. Most importantly, it has been overlooked that Radford was doing workups for her FINAL deployment and was due to decommission next year anyway. If that changes now, it wasn't the Navy's original intent. Mike L (jaded three striper and beltway bandit) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "roger torgeson" Subject: MK48/ADCAP I know this is not about model ships, but for those of you who have seen the CNN news item about the sinking of the MV New Carissa Thursday the following message we had at work may add a little more information. Subject: MK48/ADCAP Sinks Ship "To all: Thursady afternoon, a SUBPAC fast attack submarine, on 36 hours notice, was called in as a contingency player in the sinking of the MV New Carissa (the freighter which grounded on the Oregon Coast several weeks ago). The Bow section, (roughly 400' long by 80' beam) had had demolition charges set off and also had many rounds (70) of 5" gun ammunition employed on her as a target - the ship remained afloat (she had been towed into deep water several days before) The USS Bremerton (SSN-698) with no special training and with a weapon selected out of her torpedo room, then took her turn. The torpedo (a baseline ADCAP) ran "hot straight and normal" and detonated on the target. Minuets later, New Carissa started its descent two miles to the sea floor. Bottom Line - ADCAP proved itself ready on short notice, and in "come as you are" condition, to do what it was designed to do: SINK SHIPS and, ii this case, allowing the efficient disposal of what had been a thorny problem in front of a national audience." After working almost 30 years on torpedoes, it's nice to know they work. Roger ( living in Bremerton Washington ) Torgeson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: ECammeron@aol.com Subject: Re: Yorktown 1942 Colors See 'That Gallant Ship' by Robert Cressman. Page 39 has a picture of YORKTOWN at the NOB, Norfolk in Sept 41 and pages 48-49 has a drawing of the Camouflage Measure she wore. It was Measure 12, Graded System, using 5-S, 5-O and 5-H. Cressman's book has lots of great pictures of YORKTOWN through her entire career. Remember that she wore Measure 12 from soon after she went to the Atlantic in 1941 and didn't spend much time in port when she returned to the Pacific after Pearl Harbor. Her crew had much more important things to do than repaint ship. Eugene Cammeron -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: "Pletscher-Lenz-Schneider" Subject: Schnellboot WOLF Hi Ron Those plans you mentioned realy seem to be suspect. 1.) Type 55 (or Klasse 140) had four propellers 2.) Standard paint of the Bundesmarine (Federal German Navy) was - Hull and upperworks over all: Lichtgrau RAL 7035 - All decks: Basaltgrau RAL 7012 - Underwater hull: Oxydrot RAL 3009 - Boottopping: Basaltgrau RAL 7012 - Pennant numbers: Cremeweiss RAL 9001 In 1973 the standard over all color changed to Fehgrau RAL 7000. In the 1960s WOLF received an experimantal paint of Olivegrun RAL 6003 for some time. 3.) Refernces: - Koop/Breyer, Die Schiffe und Fahrzeuge der deutschen Bundesmarine 1956-1976 - Killi, Die Schnellboote der Bundesmarine BTW, one of the Klasse 140 boats has been preserved at the Deutsches Schiffahrtsmuseum in Bremerhaven. This one is painted RAL 7000 on the hull and RAL 7035 on the upperworks, and the fore part of the gun barrels is black. Falk Pletscher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Felix Bustelo Subject: OzMods Kits 1/600 review Hi, I have their 1/600 HMAS Voyager kit and I wrote a review of her for my website. I have now included photos of the kits parts. Overall, not a bad kit - basically the quaility you can expect from a better Airfix kit. Check out the review at http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm and click on the Quick Kit Reviews button. I hope this helps, Felix Bustelo Webmaster International Maritime Modeling -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: WEM going Off-line.. .........but only till Monday! Think about us in the pouring rain, mud etc. We're away for a weekend of archaeological surveying near Offa's Dyke on the Welsh border. Roman ruins in fact.. I've got the striped woollen jumper and the floppy hat so I'm kitted out for the weekend!! Back in bizz on Monday.. Cheers! Caroline Carter White Ensign Models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: VA Joseph Subject: INDIA INTERNATIONAL MARITIME EXPO'99 (INMEX '99) We take this opportunity to introduce ourselves as one of the leading organisers of International level expositions and conferences on high-tech themes. In our agenda, next is an International exposition and conference on Maritime - INDIA INTERNATIONAL MARITIME EXPO'99 (INMEX'99), scheduled to be held at Panjim, Goa, India, October 6th through 10, 1999. The objectives of INMEX'99, the first International exhibition of its kind to be organised in India, are: · Provide a launching pad for overseas manufacturers and traders catering to the Maritime Industry. · Provide scope for interaction with potential customers from the Indian market, which has become worthwhile with economic liberalisation and the open-door policy of the Government. · Bring the world's best under one roof, so that technologists are given an opportunity to interact and exchange views, thereby expanding the nation's technology base. · Feature the state-of-the-art equipment available world-wide for fishing and the maritime cargo industry. · Showcase the various material/components available the world over for effective maintenance of the existing fleet of both defence and commercial craft. · Provide a boost to the Indian tourism industry by exposing the potential India has to offer through package holidays which include scuba diving, sailing, water skiing etc. · Look for possibilities of upgrading the infrastructure of the existing government-owned water sports clubs/sailing clubs by featuring the best available products in this field. The exhibition is endorsed and supported by: · Ministry of Surface Transport, Govt. of India · Government of Goa · The Indian Navy · The Indian Coast Guard · Mazagon Docks Ltd. · Goa Shipyard Ltd. · Cochin Shipyard Ltd. · Mormugao Port Trust · New Mangalore Port Trust · Indian National Shipowners' Association · The Container Shipping Lines Association (India) To seek expert guidance for smooth organisation of the exhibition, we have constituted an organising committee consisting of stalwarts from the industry with Admiral O.S. Dawson (Ex-chief of Naval Staff) heading the committee with other consultant members from various fields, and an advisory committee headed by Admiral J.G. Nadkarni, who is also an Ex-Chief of Naval Staff. The exhibitor profile includes Ship Owners/Ship Managers, Shipbuilders/Shipyards/Boat builders, Government and Private Ports, Port Developers/Managers, Offshore Oil -Technology/Equipment, Maritime Equipment - Machinery/ Communication/Navigation, Marine Aviation, Marine Engineering Systems/Automation Systems, Containers / Crane Manufacturers, Marine Training Institutes, Fishing Equipment, Luxury Liners, Offshore Construction Materials, Ship and Boat Repairers, Vendors, Dredging Technology/ Equipment, Marine-related Associations and Research Institutions from India and Abroad. International companies who are expected to participate include: H.R. Wallingford Ltd. - U.K., G.K.N. Westland Helicopters-U.K,. Formation Design Systems Pty. Ltd., Welding Industries of Australia, Jaden Mktg. Pty. Ltd.- U.K., DIVEX- U.K.,TSS UK Ltd., P&O Ports-Australia, Fletcher International-UK HEMPEL's Marine Paints - Denmark, IMCO Services Inc.-U.S.A. Widney Aish Ltd.-U.K. GEC-Marconi Under Water Systems Group - UK, Marine Power Scandinavia- Denmark, ABB, Raytheon, Baird Publications- Australia, AFA Global Services Ltd.- Australia,Technology Systems- USA/Bangalore, HW Lima SDN. BHD.- Malaysia, AMC Search Ltd.- Australia, Australian Fisheries Academy-Australia, Australian Marine International Pty. Ltd.- Australia, Harbour & Marine Engineering Pty. Ltd.- Australia, Halter Marine Group Inc.- USA, etc.. INMEX'99 is given wide publicity by way of advertisements in the leading newspapers and trade journals, organising press conference in major International as well as Indian cities, placing the information of the exhibition on the website (Please visit us at www//inmexindia.com), etc.. A write up highlighting INMEX'99 has already been brought out in the "The Times of India" (the leading Newspaper of India) of 9th Dec, 1998 amidst the coverage of the recently concluded Aero India'98, in Bangalore. In brief, INMEX is emerging as the most prominent maritime exhibition being organised in this region and all the major companies/organisations in the field are going to be there at the event. We are sure, being a part of this prestigious event will be highly rewarding. May we request you to send us your space requirement details per return fax / email, to enable us to earmark the space for you. With Best Wishes. Yogesh Srinivasan Chief Executive Officer INMEX Secretariat #35, Gover Road, Coxtown, Bangalore 560 005 (India) Tel : +91-80-5564155 +91-80-5364389 Fax : +91-80-5305214 Email : pda@blr.vsnl.net.in Web Site: http://www.inmexindia.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Jeff Herne Subject: Warship Perspectives >> I appreciate hearing the good and bad points about the Fuso book. It helps me make an informed decision when purchasing an expensive book. On that line, I'm currently building up my naval library and I want to know about the quality and accuracy of the two Warship profiles from WR press. The two I'm speaking of are Fletcher, Sumner and Gearing class Destroyers of WW2 and Atlanta class Cruisers. Would these books be a good addition to my library for the money? Do they have detailed drawings, etc.? << I think they're good books, but then again, who am I to answer that? The Fletcher book has plans for Lavallette '42, Lavallette '44, Black '44, Charles S. Perry '44, and Gearing '44. The best part of the book, in my humble opinion, are the design sheets, 7 in color and 11 in grayscale, along with a list of which ship wore which scheme...oh, and there's lots of photos too... As for the Atlanta book, basically the same, color design sheets, but a with a full set of fold out plans of San Diego. BTW, plans in both books are done by Alan Raven, noted draftsman and maritime historian. The differences, well, Glenn included ships' histories in his book, since there were only 11 ships. Since the DD book covered 3 classes, well, we're talking about 304 individual ships...I guess the book would have to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 450 pages... I'd buy 'em. Jeff -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume