Subject: SMML15/03/99VOL485 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:53:31 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Bulk Carrier New Carissa & 5" shells 2: Re: Classic warships web site 3: CV 6 Deck Markings 4: Re: Internet connection charges 5: Re: Bismarck book 6: Re: New Carissa 7: web page voting 8: "Accident at work" story 9: Re: airbrush 10: Re: Airbrushes 11: Batteship plans 12: Some New Books 13: Harland and Wolff by Tom McCluskie 14: Re: Torpedo ??s 15: Search for old cargo ships models/kits 16: Aztec Airbrushes 17: Re: Bombers vs. Battleships Book 18: Need Skywave Independance Instructions 19: 1/200 Yamato at '97 IPMS US Nat.s ? 20: HMS Victory 21: New Orleans water traffic -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Re: 1/700th Auxiliary and Amphibious Ships 2: Re: Hood vs Hood 3: 4o mhz reciever -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Kurt Van Dahm Subject: Bulk Carrier New Carissa & 5" shells An interesting point about this ship is that the press is making such a fuss about the "Tremendous Oil Spill" that many people think this is another Exxon Valdez. The 639 foot New Carissa is/was a bulk carrier and it was empty and was arriving to pick up a cargo of wood chips. It carried 359,000 gallons of Bunker oil and 37,400 gallons of #2 Diesel fuel. While the potential spillage of almost 400,000 gallons of oil/fuel is indeed serious, it is not of the proportions of the infamous Exxon Valdez as the hysterical media would have us believe. Kurt Van Dahm Westmont, IL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Louis Costanzo Subject: Re: Classic warships web site If you're willing to settle for a plastic model, Tamiya makes some Japanese landing, patrol and auxiliary ships. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" Subject: CV 6 Deck Markings Greetings all! I am in the process of building a Tamiya 1/700 Enterprise as a surprise for someone who served in her. I have in my possession an article written by one Mark L. Shannon (who may be on the list) about American Aircraft Carrier Deck Camouflage in WW II. An overall excellent article, Mr. Shannon says one thing which I would like see if anyone else agrees with. He shows a series of drawings of the Big E's flight deck which shows patterns of stripes throughout her career, which looks great to me. But he also states that she retained chrome yellow for the color of these lines throughout the war. Since I'm not only doing this small one but also have the big Blue Water kit, I'd really like to see what you all have to say on this subject. Breathlessly awaiting a reply, (and Thanks to Mr. Shannon and all who reply!) I remain sincerely yours; Michael Satin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Internet connection charges This is a little off the ships subject but it affects every person who purchases or sells products over the net. Don't feel so comfortable with the fact that for now Congress has backed off charging (taxing) for Internet hookups. This is a HUGE potential source of revenue for the US government. I guarantee you all that Congress will figure out some way to get their hands into out pockets via the Internet. If we continue to scream when Congress comes up with their newest "revenue enhancement" Internet plan, it will stay free and uncensored. Be ever vigilant! Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Bruce Burden" Subject: Re: Bismarck book "russell/joyce powell" wrote: >> Do any of you wish to part with, or know where I might obtain Breyer's book: "Battleship Bismarck- the Technical Aspects? << The following sites are very good for searching for books: http://www.mxbf.com/ http://www.bibliofind.com/ There is a very broad overlap in the dealers searched with these two sites, but each has dealers not listed on the other, so it can be worth it. I won't guarantee you will find the book immediately, but it will show eventually. Bruce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Bill Gruner Subject: Re: New Carissa NEWS FLASH!!: US Navy commissions design studies based on technology used in the NEW CARISSA to build a new fleet of virtually unsinkable warships, obsoleting nearly all of its older warships! Hey, you cottage industry producers, how about a 1/700 resin model of the NEW CARISSA....to go along with the Exxon Valdez and other notable vessels of the last 2 decades? Seriously, they would probably sell pretty well.... Bill Gruner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: BumpyBunny@aol.com Subject: web page voting In an earlier post someone talked about a place were you could go to vote on what models to build, does anyone know what the web page was? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Jens H. Brandal" Subject: "Accident at work" story Could the person who sent that story about the unfortunate bricklayer, please send me a copy in private? I've played volleyball the entire weekend, and my mind was out to lunch because I deleted it before I remembered to save it. Sorry for the off-topic posting - but I really need that story! :) Thanks in advance, Jens -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: airbrush >> Any comments on a good replacement would be most welcome. Has anyone tried the new "hi-tech" Aztec model by Testors? << Mike, For my money, it's the greatest airbrush ever (and I've had a few). I especially like not having to disassemble and clean it all the time. The fact that it is both single and double action seems natural too. Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Frank and Carol Berger" Subject: Re: Airbrushes I purchased one of the Testors Model Masters Airbrushes a couple of years ago when they first came out. They spray acceptably enough, but I had many problems with paint backing up into the body, where it shouldn't have been! I recently purchased a new Pasche Millenium, essentially an update of the VL. So far, it works perfectly and cleans easily. PS: I use a "J" size CO2 tank with a dual stage regulator for air. Quiet and simple. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Jim Macneil" Subject: Batteship plans Hi all, I asked a couple of weeks ago but I'll ask again, does anyone know were I can get my hands on acurate plans of WW I & II battleships? Like I said I have not found anything better than your basic side on for most of them. Thanks Jim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Some New Books A snowy, foggy Sunday seemed a perfect time to head out to the local bookshops. I found the following new (to me) items and brought them home from Borders: "The Longest Battle: The Royal Canadian Navy in the Atlantic 1939-1945" by John D. Harbron (Vanwell Publishing Ltd., St. Catharines, Ontario). Softbound, 132 pages, US$17.95 and yes, it does have some nice shots of F****** class and other ships. "Titanic & Her Sisters Olympic & Britannic" by McCluskie, Sharpe, and Marriott (PRC Publishing Ltd., London). Hard cover, 508 pages, a bargain at US$19.99. A real "coffee table" type book that weighs about ten pounds! And - "The Naval Battle of Guadalcanal: Night Action, 13 November 1942" by James W. Grace (US Naval Institute, Annapolis, Maryland). Hard cover, 234 pages, US $23.07 [member's discount]. Mike L Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Duane Fowler Subject: Harland and Wolff by Tom McCluskie Tom McCluskie has been known for his missinformation about the Titanic (in his book "Titanic and Her Sisters he has a full two page photograph of the Aquitania that he calls the Britannic) but this book is fairly good. It shows color photos of the original drawings of the first 150 ships from H&W (Titanic was number 401). None of the more famous ships are in there but if you are a general historian it is interesting. I found the illustrations of the original steam propulsion engines to be fasinating. Regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Norman Samish Subject: Re: Torpedo ??s Roger Torgeson wrote: >> Excellent! A torpedo expert. I've just been reading about the myriad faults of the US's torpedoes in WW2. I have a number of basic questions: 1. What powers these weapons? I assume an internal combustion engine supplied with compressed air and fuel. I vaguely recall that the WW2 models used a modified flat head Ford V8, or is this a fiction? 2. Is the torpedo engine started prior to launch, or does it start automatically during launch, and if so, how do they ensure this? 3. How often does this weapon need overhaul in peacetime conditions? Very interesting that (70), 5" shells had no effect on this maritime vessel, but that one torpedo did the job. I'm surprised they did it this way because of the risk of a huge oil spill. << It will be nice to hear an authoritative answer to the torpedo questions. I don't think a Ford flathead V8 would fit inside a torpedo. I hope the expert contrasts the U.S. torpedo design with that of the Japanese. With respect to the 5" shells not sinking the hulk, I've heard similar stories in wartime. Maybe the 5" shells are not armor-piercing and can't get through the ship's hull. The torpedo does sound like it would rupture the oil-containing tanks. Maybe it did? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Jsouth2906@aol.com Subject: Search for old cargo ships models/kits Gentlemen: For some time I;ve been attempting to locate model cargo ships, tramp steamers, large river steamers. Wood or plastic kits, 1700s to 1800s about 1/250 or near. Can You help. I am a senior person, thank you, John W. South JSouth2906@aol.com Phone (916) 332-4535 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: MDDoremus@aol.com Subject: Aztec Airbrushes Mike, I can't talk to the high end / high tech Aztecs. But, I've got a cheap one ($39.95 at Wal Mart) packaged as a Testors. It's an internal mix, single action. Uses the exact same tips as some of the less expensive Aztecs. Works great, and is easy to clean. Even came with a combo nozzle wrench and paint cleaner. Only real issue for me is the Klutz Factor with the gravity feed paint cup. My guess is if the cheap one is this good the expensive ones must be great. Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Re: Bombers vs. Battleships Book Hello SMML, Has anyone seen a recent book from the Naval Institute Press called "Bombers vs. Battleships" by Hamer? Does it have any interesting photographs and does it have any new information or analysis (as opposed to a rehash of existing information)? Thank you, Art Nicholson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "bruce" Subject: Need Skywave Independance Instructions Hello to all, I just started trying to build my Skywave 1/700 CVL Independance and realised that I mislaid the instructions. Does anyone have a set they can lend me either via E-mail or snail mail? Thanks in Advance, Bruce Bullock Lompoc, Calif -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: SJantscher@aol.com Subject: 1/200 Yamato at '97 IPMS US Nat.s ? Hi All, I saw a wonderful model of the Yamato BB (1/200th scale Nichimo I believe) at the Ohio 1997 IPMS USA Nationals. The decking was real strips of wood, I think I remember reading there were over 170 separate strips side to side at the thickest point. My question is, does anybody on SMML know who did this kit, and by any chance is the builder an SMML'er? I've plenty of questions, and would like to follow up with separate correspondence. Thank you Steve Jantscher Hi Steve, I just had a quick look thru the Journel issue for the 1997 IPMS(USA) Nats & couldn't find any mention of it. Sorry, Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: "Matti Kurki" Subject: HMS Victory Firstly I'd like to thank you all who helped me with the coppering issue. Secondly, what comes to Heller's 1/100th kit I went througth my references on weekend and could not find a single document which would suggest that during Trafalgar battle the would have been a gun port, instead of the entry port presented in numerous references including the marvellous instructions and drawings by Corel and also Longridge's book The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships. I guess this leaves no choise but to remodel the steps, cut the gunport larger and scratch build the entry port side and top ornaments. Thirdly, if anyone has replaced the Heller kit decks with wooden ones I'd be happy to hear experienses. Matti -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Frances Jones (by way of Greg Lee) Subject: New Orleans water traffic As a resident of Baton Rouge, home of the USS Kidd, I don't mind a few swipes at the city of New Orleans, but recently some have seemed extreme. Just go down and sit on the Moonwalk, the park along the levee, and watch the ship, barge, and tug traffic go by. You'll get a ringside seat of one of the world's major port's traffic and it doesn't cost a dime! New Orleans is a tourist trap only if you let it be one! Go and have fun! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Rob Mackie Subject: Re: 1/700th Auxiliary and Amphibious Ships Dave Woodward wrote: >>I'm looking for some auxiliary and amphibious ships in 1/700 waterline. I know WEM are producing a Dale class tanker from WWII, but I cannot find anything else from that era. Any suggestions? << Loose Cannon Productions http://warship.simplenet.com/Loosecannon.htm has a very good 1/700th T-2 Tanker available. It is reviewed on the Warship site at http://warship.simplenet.com/T2%20700.htm as well as in the latest Fine Scale Modeler. This same producer is about to release the following 1/700th waterline kits USS VULCAN REPAIR SHIP 1944 USS DIXIE/FULTON TENDER 1944 USS MONTROSE CLASS APA 1944 VICTORY TYPE CARGO SHIP 1944 Tom's Modelworks will be issuing a re-tooled and much improved Liberty ship in April. WSW/Doc Modell also has an APA and a destroyer tender in its line. Both of these are available from Pacific Front. The APA 35 USS Callaway is reviewed at http://warship.simplenet.com/callaway.htm Rob Mackie Warship http://warship.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: Re: Hood vs Hood Hallo Mr Judy, >> Had he had an example of BOTH much improved kits , his article may have met with Dave and Caroline's approval. << Well, from our point of view, we were never told that this comparison was being done, and Rob never asked about an updated kit sample.. which, of course, we would have been delighted to send him on loan, although I am sure that he will eventually get round to putting in the info we subsequently sent him to provide a current "state of play" picture of comparison. However, we shouldn't really complain, as we do have a loyal and growing band of SMMLlies ready to preach the virtues of WEM kits at the drop of a hat (Thanks Rusty et al!). Best Regards, Caroline Carter For the best WEM Hood build we've ever seen... http://whiteensignmodels.simplenet.com/wemhood/weldon.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: ellison@connection.com Subject: 4o mhz reciever Can anyone tell me where I can find A 4 channel reciever for a Futabe system that is 40 mhz? Any help wil be appeciated. Thanks, Jon. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume