Subject: SMML16/03/99VOL486 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:54:05 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Battleship Plans 2: Re: Old mail files 3: Re: BB Plans 4: Re: 40mhz Receiver 5: Warship Perspectives - Atlanta Class Book 6: Re: New Carissa Model 7: Re: New Carissa 8: CAN ANYONE HEAR NAVAL GUN FIRE? 9: Re: HMS Nelson/Rodney 10: Re: Big Yamato at 1997 US IPMS Nationals 11: 1/35 scale Schnellboote kits 12: That torpedo, v 5" shells, plus a wee bit on 'connection charges'. 13: Re: New Carissa & 5" shells 14: Re: CV-6 Deck Markings 15: Great News For Aussie Modellers!! 16: Re: CV-6 Deck Markings 17: Re: Aztec Airbrushes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Re: 1/700th Auxiliary and Amphibious Ships -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Battleship Plans Jim British battleships are catered for in R A Burt's British Battleships of World War 1 and Raven and Roberts British Battleships of World War 2. If it's individual plans you want try White Ensign or Pacific Front who both carry comprehensive ranges of plans. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Old mail files >> I've played volleyball the entire weekend, and my mind was out to lunch because I deleted it before I remembered to save it. << Check your old mail or read mail files. It should be there. If it was a downloaded file, it would be in your file manager. If you deleted all this, it would be in your recycle bin. If you deleted that, you're in trouble and far more thorough than I am. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: BB Plans >> I asked a couple of weeks ago but I'll ask again, does anyone know were I can get my hands on accurate plans of WW I & II battleships? << Floating Dry Dock carries a pretty good selection of BB plans. You buy as many sheets as you want to spend. I can't speak for the thoroughness of the plans, but my 1/92 scale plans of the USS Kidd are very well done. Thomas Walkowiak (the owner) does most of the drafting and does a good job. You can see a list of available plans on the FDD web site. The URL is: http://floatingdrydock.com/ Hope this helps. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Robert Vancel Subject: Re: 40mhz Receiver I think Futaba offers one but here in the US, one has to have an Amateur Radio License to operate of 40mhz. I'll check with my distributor and let you know. Hollywood nWMo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Felix Bustelo Subject: Warship Perspectives - Atlanta Class Book Hi SMMLer's I have a copy of the Atlanta book and it is an excellent reference, with 172 photos in every angle and aspect imaginable, 16 diagrams, 6 color pages with aritist renditions of various camo schemes and a 1/192 scale fold out plan that is attached to the inside of the back cover. The plan is of the USS San Diego as of her 1944 refit. Very detailed and fully annotated. So, in short, it is a must buy. I will have a fuller review of this book in the March update to IMM, due out March 22. Watch SMML for the annoucement. Felix Bustelo Webmaster - International Maritime Modeling http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: John Snyder Subject: Re: New Carissa Model >> Hey, you cottage industry producers, how about a 1/700 resin model of the NEW CARISSA.... << Undoubtedly with a two-piece hull, divided vertically rather than horizontally, so that you can market either the whole ship, or just the bow or stern sections for dioramas. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Kenneth H. Goldman" Subject: Re: New Carissa I realize everyone is having some fun regarding the final sinking of the New Carissa, but you are forgetting that there was essentially no oil on board when she was sunk. Yes, there was a serious spill initially, but most of the oil was either pumped out or later burned off. The decision being made that dispersed air pollution was better than concentrated marine environment pollution. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER http://www.wman.com/~khgold/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Kim Tomlinson" Subject: CAN ANYONE HEAR NAVAL GUN FIRE? SMML: Does anyone know of a CD/LP contaning Naval gun fire. I would like to install a sound system to a model to play gunfire. AA fire, 4.5ins or 12ins. Or a mixture from the Second World War period. If anyone does know of one please let me know the title and catalogue #. Thanks for any help you can give. K Tomlinson. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" Subject: Re: HMS Nelson/Rodney >> Has anybody purchased the Iron Shipwright 1/350 scale kit of this ship, and as important, has anybody begun its construction? I checked out the preview in Warship, and it appeared to be on about the same level as the IJN Kirshima by Classic Warships, which seemed a bit heavy in some of the details. << Bob, Well, no one else has replied, so I will. I'm no expert, especially in resin kits, but this one sure looks like a winner to me. I haven't started working on it yet, except here and there, but I'm very impressed with the delicacy of some of the casting. In fact, most of the work I've done so far is fixing splinter shielding that I've broken off. It certainly seems quite thin to me! I got one of the first issues on a pre-order and had some questions about some missing parts (I thought) and some broken ones. The folks at Iron Shipwright were very helpful and we communicated quite freely. The upshot is that I'm very impressed with the kit and the service. My only concern is the instructions. I have suggested to them that they do some detailed profile & etc. drawings to show the ship(s) and various areas completed, so we know what they should look like. Ditto with the differences between the ships. Also, I'm not sure where they are with painting instructions. Both of these ships had disruptive schemes, the Rodney's even continued on to the deck! My two shekels worth is, great kit! Michael Satin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Jens H. Brandal" Subject: Re: Big Yamato at 1997 US IPMS Nationals I remember seeing a big scale Yamato at the US IPMS Nationals, but I cannot remember the scale. Thought it was 1:200 as it was HUGE. Surprisingly, it didn't seem to win any trophies - maybe it didn't enter the competition, but was just on display. It sure looked like a magnificent piece of work to me, but then I'm not a judge:) Got a reply to my plea for the bricklayer story - thanks! Jens -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "RLOCKIE" Subject: 1/35 scale Schnellboote kits Al Ross posted a question about the PSP kit a few weeks ago and I had another look at it at the end of February, when it was exhibited at a show in the UK. The kit by fellow French company Azimut (of a later version, with kalotte bridge) was also on display. A second inspection after last year's brief look confirmed that the Azimut one appears to be the better kit. PSP has a flat deck with no camber and much less in the way of deck detail (cleats, that sort of thing). I did not run a measure over either but my references show that the dimensions varied a lot between yards and so both may well be correct. My French is not good enough to engage either manufacturer in a lengthy conversation about their sources. The only significant flaw that I noticed on the Azimut kit was that the hinges for the torpedo tube doors did not seem to be attached to the hull by anything but willpower and glue, so some work may be needed there. Several bits had also fallen off since the last show, as there were no DC racks on the stern, although the attachment points could be seen to have a glue residue where they had been attached before. The guns (a twin 3.7cm and a twin 2cm) are available separately (with crew figures) and very nice as well. I do not have prices but the Azimut would be my choice (no, I didn't buy one - maybe when the 1/350 Sheffield is finished....). Robert Lockie Cambridge UK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Douglas Martin" Subject: That torpedo, v 5" shells, plus a wee bit on 'connection charges'. Folks: I suppose the more knowledgeable guys will detail why a torpedo will do more damage to a ship in comparison with mere 5" shells, but it my humble opinion, its because they pack 10-20 times more explosive into one small area, usually under water....... The 5" inchers probably did no vital damage above the waterline, and if you remember many of the ways in which ships were sink in WW2, unless the water tight integrity was breached, the hulk would stay afloat (Bismarck, Scharnhorst, Hi-ei) to name but 3 worthies. There is a Japanese Long Lance torpedo at RAF Duxford, in one of their many hangers, the engine if I recall was not exactly big.......the torpedo is cutaway for viewing. Internet charges: Over here in the UK, I pay £15 of Lizzies pounds, per month for my MSN connection (I could go for the 'free sites', and be plagued by adverts and the like), and a large amount for my telephone bill, which is worked out like this for 'Local calls': Mon-Fri, 0800-1800 (£2.04/hour), 'peak rate' Mon-Fri, 1800-0800 (£0.75/hour), 'night rate' Sat-Sun, 0000-2400 (£0.51/hour), 'weekend rate' Multiply all figures by 1.60 for Uncle Sam's $$$$ Did I mention the addition of 17.5% 'value added tax' (a misnomer if ever there was), plus a quarterly line rental of £27.88 plus Vat, and a minimum call charge of £0.05 per call. As you can see, us lads in the UK are already 'taxed' to the hilt by the government, so would not appreciate anything extra, ta very much. Being on a discount scheme my Internet line gets 35% discount for the call charges. I've heard of the US 'tax' being applied, if its per call, then get off MSN as they have a habit of 'dropping the connection' when you least appreciate it, and a charge per the number of times you connect could be interesting. So if the original enquirer would like to calculate their own bill based on my charges, you may still be getting off lightly! Douglas (Scotland, UK, where you are not meant to enjoy technology unless its taxed and priced to the hilt........time to throw some tea chests into the 'Tay'.......) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: louellet@uism.bu.edu Subject: Re: New Carissa & 5" shells To those questioning why 70 5" shells did not sink the New Carissa, it is because the US Navy was trying not to hit the fuel storage tanks, which still had many tens of thousands of gallons of fuel in them. I read elsewhere the stern piece was rolling heavily, making it more difficult to hit her at or below the waterline. The torpedo from the sub hit the stern slightly below the waterline and made a hole big enough to sink her. If the Navy simply wanted to blow it out of the water, I'm sure less than 70 shells would have been required. Larry Quincy, Massachusetts, USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: ECammeron@aol.com Subject: Re: CV-6 Deck Markings The deck stripes (dashes) were yellow. Doubt there was much chrome left after a few weeks. Other ships had white, some had light gray. Check the Carrier Camouflage book from Floating Drydock or the old series from Scale Models by Del Palmeri. Eugene Cammeron -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: ordrazz@ne.com.au Subject: Great News For Aussie Modellers!! Hi All, I have got great news for us Aussie ship modellers!!! I walked into my closest shopping center newsagency, to pass the time while my wife was at the supermarket, & while looking at the mags on the shelves, guess what i saw?? Scale Ship Modeller (SSM)!!! I could not believe my eyes, I looked again: yep, it surely was, so i picked up an issue straight away, it cost me $13.75 Aus, & I told the shop to try & get it every month for me. I have tried searching newsagencies in Australia for 1 1/2 years to no avail, now it just pops up in front of me... The importer is GORDON & GOTCH, so all the aussies that want to get it instead of USA subscription, look at the big newsagencies, esp. NEWSPOWER, & if they do not have it, ask them to get it through G&G, its expensive but worth it. I have the Feb 99 issue, inside the editorial it talks about the failed mag merger it was trying to do. apparently people power still works sometimes, as they said it failed due to public uproar, so challenge Publications (the guys who make it) have resumed production of the mag, so happy days are here again... lets hope we keep getting it, if all us aussies get it each month, we can show G&G its a popular mag.... Cheers & 73's for now, ordrazz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Re: CV-6 Deck Markings Concerning the USS ENTERPRISE CV-6 deck markings. The Big E before W.W.II had yellow chromate lines that ran the length of the deck and were crossed the width of the flight deck on deck painted rusty red. After the war started her deck was painted blue: Flight stain 21 with small white lines in 3 columns that ran the length of the deck that were broken as you went down the deck such as this :- - - . I hope you find this of help. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: jakloek@kodak.com Subject: Re: Aztec Airbrushes I thought I would continue this thread. Most of you may not realize it, but Aztec was originally a venture company owned by Kodak. They were responsible for the innovative design. Since I work for Kodak, I had an opportunity to get my hands on one of them very early (probably 7-8 years ago). Like most of the comments I have seen here, initially I really liked it. Overtime, however, my enthusiasm has tempered somewhat. I found that the tips did not stand up well to repeated use, and after several months they began to fail and needed replacement. After a couple of years, the body itself failed. It had a lifetime warranty, and I mailed in the failed body (by now Testors had bought the company, it was no longer part of the Big Yellow Box) and they replaced it, free of charge. But the second body failed after about another 18 months. I got discouraged and bought a Paasche which I am still using. (In fairness, you do have to replace tips and needles occasionally with this one too.) It has been several years now since my experience, and perhaps the reliability has been improved. I hope so, because there were a lot of great features to the airbrush. Jim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: Re: 1/700th Auxiliary and Amphibious Ships Dear Dave Re. your recent SMML posting, as you rightly pointed out we have the Dale Class variants underway. We also carry various kits by the following mfrs: WSW 1/700 USS Callaway APA 35 Attack Transport 1943 37.40 Pounds USS Markab AD 21 1942 Destroyer Tender .£37.40 Pounds HP MODELS 1/700 Liberty Ship Tanker. 28.90 Liberty Ship Freighter.28.90 Victory Ship Troop trans and freighter.28.90 LOOSE CANNON PRODUCTIONS 1/700 1/700 SS Lyons Creek WW2 Mercantile T2 tanker inc. etched brass.37.40 1/700 USS Cossatot/Cowanesque AO 77/AO79 WW2 T2 auxiliary oiler inc. photoetched brass 37.40 and of course the Skywave 1/700 W43 AK-99 Bootes Liberty Ship. 19.53 Pounds W44 AK-121 Sabik USN Liberty Ship 19.53 Pounds For Devon (!) add 17.5% VAT. Best Regards, Caroline Carter http:/dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume