Subject: SMML05/06/99VOL567 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 23:41:20 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: BWN address 2: SS US 3: Re: Potemkin color scheme 4: London Hobby Shops 5: BSW Ships 6: Re: HMS Belfast sails again! 7: 1999 IPMS(USA) Nats 8: CSS Arkansas 9: Re: Diorama of Hood and PoW 10: Re: BLIND MAN'S BARF 11: Cleaning Resin 12: BSW Molds 13: some more 14: Sub, Container ship, Supertanker, & Modern Frieghter 15: Re: 1:10 YAMATO 16: POW & Hood Diorama 17: Ariadne details 18: Potemkin colors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Sheridan, John" Subject: Re: BWN address >> My buddy just got a Furutaka, minus its' photoetch. Does anybody have BWN's address, phone number or e-mail address? << >> Go to the Navismagazine.com home page. BWN has a banner there. You can get the address and email address there. << I just did and the banner is no longer there. Anyhoo, here's the info: MB Models / Blue Water Navy 622 Old Trolley Road Unit 112 Summerville, South Carolina 29485 (843) 821-3558 MBishop446@aol.com John Sheridan @ Microscale Decals http://www.microscale.com If I'm talking Decals, then I'm talking for Microscale, Otherwise I am speaking for myself. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: crofoot@bfm.org (Crofoot, Christopher) Subject: SS US SMMLies, I've begun some work on a 1961 issue of the SS US. I've got two questions.... the models material is so old that the plastic isn't styrene it's an acetate based plastic...will regular liquid cement and ACC's work with this stuff? It feels quite slick. Secondly, does anybody have any plan and profile views of SS US? It's a 1/600th kit so I'm not looking for scratchbuilders plans just to see how accurate the deck fittings are. Alright...a bonus question.... for the benefit of my own curiosity....gravity davits...Exactly how were they deployed. I understand how they looked once "swung out" but how did they move from the stowed to outboard position...by hand crank perhaps? thanks Chris Crofoot Go Army Beat Navy! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Potemkin color scheme If the person who sent the post about the Potemkin color scheme wants a photo of my model, I can scan and send to him. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: London Hobby Shops Yohan I put a list of the best ones on SMML a few issues back (20 or so?) Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Mark Knowlton Subject: BSW Ships I'm amazed at reading the posts on the subject of Mark closing up shop with BSW. When he was producing the ships, he wasn't overly busy with orders for his fine ships and now everyone is wondering why they aren't in production anymore. If you want to see a manufacturer stay around, you have to support them. I was amused also when Mark told me he had a modeler contact him to request to free samples of each of his tanker models for a magazine review when Mark already sent a sample of each to the editor of the magazine. If you want to see these ships again, do what Mark did and scratchbuild them, that's how he got started. He probably won't be interested in selling the masters as he wants to build all the individual WW2 ships he can. Thanks for letting me rant. Mark Knowlton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Re: HMS Belfast sails again! Yohan Fernando writes: >> I can't believe this! Well, I can believe the part about the Belfast being moved on June 4, but I can't believe the fact that I will arriving in London for vacation on the 5th! Well, I guess I won't be seeing the Belfast next week... << You have my sympathies, Yohan. I have managed to travel to London twice in my life - both times (7 years apart) the warship wing of the National Maritime Museum was closed. Not a pretty sight to see a modeler banging his head against cold marble columns... >> Can anyone make me feel a little better by telling me of any good hobby shops in London proper? << Not in London proper, but Maritime Models Greenwich is a must stop for a naval enthusiast. Just down from the Maritime Museum on Nelson Road. While in London there are a number of great used bookstores that have naval items - I heartily recommend a bit of browsing if you have the time and need to expand your library (and who doesn't) Kurt Greiner SeaPhoto Maritime Photography Now with online ordering! http://www.modelersboatyard.com/seaphoto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: 1999 IPMS(USA) Nats Hi Guys In a month or so the' 99 IPMS(USA) Nationals in Orlando are taking place and I am going to it and looking forward to it. Is any one else going? Perhaps we SMMLies could meet. Craig Bennett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: CSS Arkansas Hi SMML, It turns out a friend had an ancestor on the Civil War warship CSS Arkansas, and would like a model of it. I see that Thoroughbred Models has a 1/600 kit of the Arkansas; is that the only one out there? I thought Lone Star Models made some kits of Civil War-era warships, but I can't find anything on it. Thanks in advance, Art Nicholson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Re: Diorama of Hood and PoW Hi SMML, I agree with those who suggest not worrying too much about the distance between the Hood and Prince of Wales in your diorama. I think you're entitled to some license, and, in any event, the two ships really were pretty close; that's why the Germans had no trouble switching their fire to the PoW after the Hood was sunk. Incidentally, judging from a photo of the Hood taken from the PoW shortly before the action, the two ships were in quarter line formation; that is, the PoW was behind the Hood and off her starboard quarter. Finally, if you're doing the PoW at that time, I would wait for WE to come out with their single 40mm Bofors; I'm sure it would be an improvement over the Tamiya one in the kit (which goes on the quarterdeck). Good luck, and send us pics when you're done! Art Nicholson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Re: BLIND MAN'S BARF Hi guys You know the article sent in Dave Baker stirred a memory of mine about the Naval Institute Press. Back in 1983 when the US invaded Grenada the Coast Guard sent a group of cutters down to support the operation and afterwards. Anyway a coworker friend of mine was a Coast Guard reservist (and this magazine had an article by a Coast Guard's Chief of Staff assistant) told me that was classified and my boss (his father-god rest his soul) was in the reserves too and I told him about it he told me that's classified and that I gave to it to his son to read. I guess it ain't a secret no more Craig Bennett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: WFulp@aol.com Subject: Cleaning Resin I have a 1/350 California that has lot of mold release on it. What is the best way to clean this off of a large casting without using dangerous chemicals? Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Robert Weilacher Subject: BSW Molds I would like to voice my interest in purchasing BSW DD's kits made by someone who might aquire the molds and re-produce the BSW destroyer line of resin kits. I have two kits (one built) and think they are great. Rob -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: some more 13 Signs that You've Had Too Much of the 90's 1.) You tried to enter your password on the microwave. 2.) You now think of three espressos as "getting wasted." 3.) You haven't played solitaire with a real deck of cards in years. 4.) You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family of 3. 5.) You e-mail your son in his room to tell him that dinner is ready,and he e-mails you back "What's for dinner?" 6.) Your daughter sells Girl Scout Cookies via her web site. 7.) You chat several times a day with a stranger from South Africa, but you haven't spoken to your next door neighbor yet this year. 8.) You didn't give your valentine a card this year, but you posted one for your email buddies via a web page. 9.) Your daughter just bought a C.D. of all the records your college roommate used to play. 10.) You check the ingredients on a can of chicken noodle soup to see if it contains echinacea. 11.) You check your blow dryer to see if it's Y2K compliant. 12.) Your grandmother clogs up your e-mail Inbox, asking you to send her JPEG file of your newborn so she can create a screen saver. 13.) You pull up in your own driveway and use your cellphone to see if anyone is home Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Gene Larson Subject: Sub, Container ship, Supertanker, & Modern Frieghter I have received a query from an model builder. He is looking for a source for kits of a sub (USS Boise), a container ship, a supertanker, and a modern freighter. Can anyone offer suggestions? I have suggested scratch building from available plans, but I think he would rather start with more material than that. Gene Larson, Alexandria, Virginia mailto:genenrg@Naut-Res-Guild.org Nautical Research Guild, Inc. http://www.Naut-Res-Guild.org "A non-profit, tax exempt, educational organization with international membership, dedicated to maritime research and accurate ship model building." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Minadmiral@aol.com Subject: Re: 1:10 YAMATO Hi Guys; Anyone know of any photos of the 1:10 scale YAMATO supposedly being built in Japan? Chuck Duggie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Leif Snellman" Subject: POW & Hood Diorama I have a note written down in a book with a pencil a long time ago (so don't ask for the source) with the following info: Angle from Hood to POW 341 degrees. Heading 220 degrees. Range 1070 yards. That should make 1.4 meters in 1/700 scale! Leif Snellman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: "Bob Pearson" Subject: Ariadne details Greetings all, After a side trip to an OOB build of an IJN CVE as practice, I have returned to my Matchbox Ariadne upgrade. After going over references sent by various SMMLies (thanks guys) It appears that all that can be used is the hull and basic superstructure. . everything else needs to be redone. So all details are now removed; my nicely thinned 20mm platform is trashed as inaccurately shaped , same with the aft conning position. I'm still hoping to be able to use the bridge though, but we'll see about that. I am now curious as to the actual shapes of the mine loading hatches and the crane for same. Any and all help is most appreciated. Regards, Bob Pearson Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: Marc Flake Subject: Potemkin colors From what I can tell from my limited research means, different Russian fleets carried different color schemes. The Far East Fleet had white hulls and yellow funnels with black tops. The Black Sea fleet had black hulls, white superstructure and yellow funnels with black tops. Some ships carried the white paint all the way up the mast, others painted the topmasts black. I've found a few pictures of the Potemkin on the Internet. The easiest way to get there is through the Russian Navy Link on the Warship Links page. Before you open it, though, you must download a program that will allow your computer to display cryllic lettering. Doesn't take too long. There are two actual photos of Potemkin at: http://www.corbina.ru/~greenwar/flot/fotos.htm Both show the ship in overall gray. They are photos 289 and 291. Photo 290 is a picture of a Potemkin model -- could be a builders model. It shows a black hull, black superstructure, yellow funels with black tops and white masts. It is in color, the other two are black and white. The most interesting feature of the builders model is the color used below the waterline--copper. Elsewhere, in my library, I have two other pictures of Potemkin. Kalmbach's "How to build Plastic Ship Models" has a black and white photo on page 54 of a model painted with a black hull, white superstructure, yellow funnels with black tops and all white masts. A light colored boot (white?) tops what looks like a red below-the-waterline hull. There's also a color illustration of Potemkin on page 158 of Tony Gibbons' "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships." The ship is in the same livery as in the Kalmbach photo, but it is a waterline illustration. Potemkin was part of the Black Sea Fleet and was renamed Pantelimon after the famous mutiny. The "corbin" page is all in cryllic, I found Potemkin using the cryllic spelling on the model box. I have no idea how Pantelimon would be spelled in cryllic. Someone with more time than I could probably find out. Marc in Mansfield (where we've already started summer with temps in the 90s that are expected to continue (and get worse) through September.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume