Subject: SMML24/06/99VOL586 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:38:50 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Underway replenishment 2: Re: Dunkerque and Strasbourg colors 3: Re: Blue Riband 4: SMS Konig 5: Re: Making decals 6: Re: Alps printer for decals 7: Fwd: [alpsdecal] Which printer to buy? 8: Re: decals 9: GMM needs your help 10: Re: Hales Trophy 11: Sinkex info 12: Re: Underway replenishment photo 13: Re: Dragon Shanghai kits 14: Doyusha Shinano 1/250 questions 15: Heller Scharnhorst -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Re: Oklahoma City -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: GRIMMKT Subject: Underway replenishment Would pictures of an aircraft carrier during an Unrep help? I'm on the USS John F. Kennedy and we have an UNREP scheduled for tomorrow. If it'll help let me know what you need shots of. LT Keith Grimm USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "larsenal" Subject: Re: Dunkerque and Strasbourg colors About the battleships Strasbourg and Dunkerque colors, both had the same scheme, but dates of application differ. 1- Dunkerque colors From the beginning of her career to February 1940: light grey. She was latter repainted in dark grey after February 1940.. Neutrality bands were painted on her N° II and V turrets only in February 1942. At this date she is still dark grey. A very short camouflaging test was done from April 1939 to August 1939 in the form of a black spiral painted on the rear mast. One white ring on the funnel from March 1939 to August 1940 2- Strasbourg colors As for the Dunkerque she was painted light grey from her launching to January 1940. She was repainted dark grey only for a very short period of time: Feb.1940 to October 1940. She reverted very soon to light grey! Neutrality bands are applied on turrets N° II and V in November 1940. Also a very short camouflaging test was tried from October to November 1939 in the form of two rings painted on the rear mast and two large black vertical bands on the rear face of the front tower. Two white rings on the funnel from March 1939 to August 1940 So it is possible to combine a dark grey Dunkerque with no Neutrality bands to a light grey Strasbourg with neutrality bands, quite colorful ! Best regards, Jacques Druel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: tom Subject: Re: Blue Riband John writes: >> I have become interested in the winners of the Hales (Blue Riband) Trophy and have a few questions for you: (1) Why have warships not been able to win the trophy? (2) Where can I obtain a ship model of recent winners after the Normandie, Queen Mary, and SS United States? (3) Why has the Destriero not won the trophy? << The Blue Riband was for the vessel designated as the fastest Atlantic Ocean passenger liner. Military vessels and/or specialized race boats don't count. The current record holder is the SS United States with an average speed (eastbound in 1952) of 35.59 knots. These days lots of cruise ships would be eligible for the Riband but I don't think any of them are capable of sustaining the necessary speed, in addition the economics and itineraries of passenger ships these days are totally different. Best regards, Tom Kremer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: The Codes Subject: SMS Konig There was some talk on this list a few weeks back about a new model in 1/350 scale of SMS Konig...anything new on this?? Is someone out there really going to offer a kit of this battleship or was this just talk? It would be nice to have a couple of them running together, Scheers 3rd battle squadron lives again! Regards, Bill Code -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Jean-Cyrille WAAG" Subject: Re: Making decals Hello, You can use the Super Scale series 8511 decal sheets in clear or various colors for making your own decals. They work fine on computers' printers either inkjet or laser because they have specific sheets for each type. Hope this helps Jean-Cyrille -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Alps printer for decals >> I have done all the artwork on my PC (Ansett logo, running chook logo etc) but need to transfer these to decal sheet. I own both a colour inkjet (Epson 800) and laser (HP 6L black only) and have tried a few clear decal films, but the ink just won't adhere. I have << Duane Fowler has been very helpful providing with info on printing my own decals. First you have to have an Alps printer. The Alps printer prints very high d.p.i. and use ribbons instead of ink cartridges. That's why it produces such superior decals. Problem is the Alps 1500 cost between $400.00 to $600.00, so you better want those decals bad. Duane has sent me 1/350 scale flags done on the Alps and the resolution is perfect under a 4 power Lupe scope! You can find the Alps printer web site by typing keywords "Alps printer" I'll be doing my own line of decals in the very near future and I'll use the Alps 1500 for decals only. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Henry Blecha Subject: Fwd: [alpsdecal] Which printer to buy? Hi I saw your request for info on making decals. I am no expert by any imagination, but I have been tracking the alpsdecal news group. Somewhere in the address listing below is a way of getting involved. They also have archived some of the past info. Also you should be able to get some answers to your question. As you can probably guess this site revolves around the Alps printer that its said to be a good one for printing your own decals. Listed below are some of the printers available. Anyway hope this helps in your quest for getting info on printing decals. Some of the folks on SMML are also listed on the alpsdecal site. One in particular that you may want to contact is Duane Fowler. I have bought one of hos decal sheets. His email address is mailto:dlfowler@apple.com. Andys Abshier is the moderator for the alpsdecal. He should also be a good source for any initial questions. Good luck. v/r HBlecha >>From: Andrew Abshier Once more, with feeling: Andy Alpsdecal Moderator From: "Clifford W. Martin" I own an Alps MD-1300 printer. The big differences between the MD-1300 and MD-5000 models are: MD-5000 has max resolution of 2400dpi, MD-1300 has max res. of 1200dpi MD-5000 can hold 8 ribbon cartridges at a time, MD-1300 holds 4 carts. MD-5000 can print using foil cart, MD-1300 no foil printing Both can do dye sublimation printing, which is good for photo printing. If you just want to do decals, the MD-1000 is all that is needed. If you will also print photos, then move up to the MD-1300. If you need to have 8 ribbon cartridges loaded at the same time, and must print using foil, then get the MD-5000. All of the models >have the option for a MAC scsi port, but come standard with a parallel port. << -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: decals >> My request now is for help with making my own decals. I know this is a ship modeller's forum, but I'm hoping some of you may be able to help. I'm actually building a 1:100 scale 747-312 in Ansett Australia's Sydney 2000 scheme. Problem is, I have done all the artwork on my PC (Ansett logo, There is a decal company that specializes in airline markings; I think it is "Liveries Unlimited" ask about them on the R.M.S. news group. running chook logo etc) but need to transfer these to decal sheet. I own both a colour inkjet (Epson 800) and laser (HP 6L black only) and have tried a few clear decal films, but the ink just won't adhere. I have thought of printing on photo paper and feeding the decal sheet through a colour laser but I'm not sure how that will turn out. If I could get some gummed decal paper (ie, without the clear film) I may be able to feed that through the inkjet. Ideally, if I could find some way of transferring the images from a CD directly to decal film, this would be perfect. Any ideas? Thanks again for the help. Regards, Philip Morgan. What you're after is an ALPS printer, to print your own decals. I don't know all that much about them, but I'm sure others will chime in. Regards, Shane - who's still annoyed he couldn't afford the SRN4 << Shane is indeed correct, hung over but correct none-the-less :-) The ALPS printers are frequently used for making waterslide decals. There are several models with varying capabilities. The MD1000 and MD1300 are generally used, but can't print white. The MD5000 will print all colors, including white and metallics, in multi pass mode. There is a mailing list called ALPS-Decal hosted on Onelist.com that covers this. Here is a recent message header which should give you enough to find the list. Mailing-List: list alpsdecal@onelist.com; contact alpsdecal-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list alpsdecal@onelist.com List-Unsubscribe: From: alpsdecal@onelist.com Reply-to: alpsdecal@onelist.com Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Loren Perry Subject: GMM needs your help Gold Medal Models is back in operation a day or two early after our brief trip to Railfair '99 (Outstanding show!!!) and we're working to catch up on the orders that accumulated while we were gone. They'll all be out by tomorrow. But we need your help on one order we received. Someone sent us an order for Titanic products with cash enclosed from an undetermined country and if someone out there can pinpoint where this fellow lives, we'd be grateful for your assistance. The return address is: Design Modellbau, Flugplatzstr. 4, 3122 Kehrsatz. That's it. The postage stamp on the envelope says "Helvetia" on it, and my one-year-old world atlas does not list such a name. A quick perusal of the internet reveals Helvetia is a region in Europe that roughly corresponds to Western Switzerland. But when I tried faxing the number on the letter (031/9616253) to Switzerland, Germany, Austria, and Greece, I received a recorded message saying the number isn't valid. And my postmaster doesn't recognize the name Helvetia, either. Can any of you more cosmopolitan and well-traveled types out there kindly lend a hand? A fellow ship modeler in Helvetia needs your help! Loren Perry/GMM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Fritz Koopman Subject: Re: Hales Trophy To answer some of your questions, quite simply: To win the Blue Riband The vessel is supposed to be a passenger carrying vessel. Warships are not passenger carying vessels. Destriero, and Virgin Atlantic before her, were private yachts, not passenger carrying vessels. The best that they can do is boast about how much faster they can make a crossing than the currant holder of the title. Hence the current holder is the KingKat type boat recently delivered to Europe from Australia, as she is a Comercial Ferry. Hope this helps Fritz Koopman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: Mark McKellar Subject: Sinkex info I tried to locate some pics or film of a particular sinkex in the early 70's and had no luck. I tried the National Archives but had no luck. Any one have any bright ideas? Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "bruce" Subject: Re: Underway replenishment photo Kelly, There is a small but clear underway replinishment picture of Sacramento AOE-1 replishenishing both Wisconsin and Missouri during Desert Storm in the book American Battleships by Max Newhart. If you cant get a hold of it let me know and I'll scan and email you. Bruce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Chris Evenden" Subject: Re: Dragon Shanghai kits Jeff, Most of the Dragon Shanghai kits are ex Skywave. Most now include a full hull option. Some of them (HMS Manchester, for example) have been updated to a more current configuration. Detail is pretty good as is fit. One of the things I noticed was the big drop in price. Most Skywave kits retailed here in Australia for around the $30-$40 mark, sometimes higher. The Spruance and Ticonderoga class kits you asked about I have seen under the Dragon label for $16.95! Chris Evenden -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: kenny_II Subject: Doyusha Shinano 1/250 questions Greetings all, I stumbled across this kit on a web site and was curious as to SMML's opinions regarding quality, fit, etc. I've never seen their stuff before, so I wonder if this kit is worth the investment of time and money. Thanks, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: kenny_II Subject: Heller Scharnhorst My next question... My fickle nature has shelved the Enterprise project and I'm starting on a Heller 1/400 Scharnhorst kit. I've been following the KM Camo discussion with great interest. Does anyone know of any big errors, corrections this kit needs? I've found some photos on the web, but I don't have a lot of experience yet on comparing an unassembled kit to a picture. I appreciate your indulgence any help you folks can offer. Thanks again, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Oklahoma City Well, as everyone has pointed out Little Rock is the musuem ship, and the Oklahoma City is no more. But you can still get the pictures from me! I was lucky enough to be on the Golden Gate Bridge when she was towed under on the way to her fate. At that point, she had been pretty well stripped because of her use as a target ship for years. She did have her forward 6" turret - shame they couldn't have removed that and put it on display somewhere - and her large search radar on the aft mast. Truly sad to see such a grand old lady go after so many years. 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