Subject: SMML30/06/99VOL592 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:30:38 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Haze Gray Revisited 2: Rodney camouflage 3: Re: A visit to the US 4: San Diego Model Run 5: convertion factor 6: DD Build & Flagship shut down 7: Re: address for Detail Associates 8: Re: Chinese Junks 9: Conversion Factor 10: The Naval Base in NYC 11: Re: Chinese Junks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Wanted to buy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS Hi gang, Last night I had a helluva lot of bouncers for issue 591. So in case you missed it, I've uploaded it to the SMML site at: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/4712/volumes/vol591.txt Just right click on the url & save it to whatever directory you'd like. Then you can read it & enjoy it. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: John Sheridan Subject: Haze Gray Revisited >> I want to use Polly-Scale acrylics to paint my 1/700 Gearing ca. 1968-- which was Haze Gray with the blue-grey deck paint. Which Polly-S paints would work to match those USN paint colors? I do have a color photograph of the ship at sea which I could use for mixing and matching. << All of the Polly-S USN ship colors are from the WWII era and would be unsuitable for a 1968 Gearing. The best matches i've found for modern USN colors are Testors Model Master Dark Ghost Gray and Gunship Gray. I just finished a Classic Warships USS Salem kit using these paints and it looks fantastic ! John Sheridan @ Microscale Decals http://www.microscale.com What I do to Spammers: http://microscale.com/images/N2.jpg I am not a Member of the Lumber Cartel (tinlc) and I am not Unit #631 Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! http://www.cauce.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Rodney camouflage Hi Dave Rodney's colour scheme was an admiralty disruptive one and according to my eyes was mainly blue grey. Colours used were 507C, white, B5, MS2 and MS1. The mainly green colour schemes belonged to Nelson. Raven and Roberts 'Man o' War 3 Battleships Rodney and Nelson has good colour illustrations of all these schemes. If you have trouble finding it contact me off line and I'll see about e-mailing you the relevant pages. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Bill Rowe Subject: Re: A visit to the US The model ship on the second floor (01 level you must) of National Air and Space Museum (NASM)is the USS Enterprise (CVN 65) as built, phased aray radar. The scale was selected to use available aircraft models. Some of the planes are kits, some are modified, and some are scratch built. If you are interested in the Essex class go to the Sea Air Operations gallery. Parts from two Essex CVs were used in the Gallery as the ships were scrapped. Plug - stop by the information desk in the south lobby and ask the docents and information volunteers for help. There are free tours daily at 10:15 and 1300. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: San Diego Model Run Hello Everyone, I thought I would share some details about a model boat run I attended over the weekend. The day after the San Diego Model Boat Regatta, hosted this year by two Southern California Model clubs, The Eighth Fleet and Task Force 96, we had a fun run at Santee Lake Park. It was quite a sight. Probably the most impressive model on the lake was a 1/96 scale model of the USS Lexington (CV-2), scratchbuilt by Ken Strapko. It featured a full deck load of scratchbuilt Biplanes, fighters and bombers. What really impressed me was how well the model ran in the water - WWII aircraft carreirs are notoriosly hard models to operate, as thier high sides tend to catch the wind. The relativley modest displacement of the Essex class in particular, accentuates this problem. The Lexington, with greater prototypical weight, ran much better, despite her high sail area. In addition to the Lex, 1/96 scale models of the Alabama, Massachusettes, Iowa, Arizona were all running - a mini history of the American Battleship. The light cruiser San Diego was there, as was the guided missile cruiser Oklahoma City. Destroyers and destroyer escorts ran too, and even scale harbor tugs. There even was an impressive little conversion of a Lindberg tug kit into a naval salvage tug, done by combining hull and cabin sections from two kits. Probably the highlight of these days is when the capitol ships run in formation - seeing 8 and 9 foot long battleships sailing together is a really fine sight. The local clubs have come up with camera mounts for the ships, so that a camcorder can be carried on a turret and trained to film the other ships in the formation. After the runs, they gather at a members house and debrief, watching the video and replaying the highlights (usually collisons! ) We will be holding a warship and submarine event in San Francisco at the end of September, so if you will be in the area, and are interested, this will be a chance to see some of these models in action. Kurt Kurt Greiner SeaPhoto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Sami Subject: conversion factor Hi Tom, It's not easy with 1/700 scale to make scale inches convertion. In engineering and architectural scaling in the U.S. this is the way it goes: 1"=50'-0" (which means 1/600 scale). There is an engineering scale ruler, which you can use for scales like 1/120, 1/240, 1/360, 1/480, 1/600 and 1/720. The last one translates into 1"=60'-0". The exact 1/700 translation would be 1"=58.3'-0". So, if you use the ruler with the 60 measurement, you have to make some adjustment. I hope this is not too confusing. Sami Arim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: DD Build & Flagship shut down I'll be bringing my JSP Sumner FRAM for the DD build. It didn't win a thing last year although I thought it was a pretty good model. Those folks that built those #$$@*& WEM cruisers cleaned my clock. I'll be shutting down Flagship from July 6 to July 12 while I'm on vacation at the Nationals. If you send in an order, please understand why there will be a small delay getting your order to you. I'll send everything out within a few days after my return. In Oklahoma where we're 8" above normal rainfall and it's still raining. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah, I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Mike Settle Subject: Re: address for Detail Associates >> Does anyone know an address for Detail Associates? << I don't know if this address is still good, it has been about 10 years since my model railroading days, but on the back of a package I have is: Detail Associates Box 5357 San Luis Obispo, CA 93403 Mike Settle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: David Bohen Subject: Re: Chinese Junks G.R.G Worcester wrote THE JUNKS & SAMPANS OF THE YANGTZE. It was published in 1970 by Navel Institute Press. This is a huge work, 626 pages. He also wrote SAIL & SWEEP IN CHINA, published in 1966 by Her Majesty's stationary Office. This book covers the models that he superintended for the Science Museum and as an interduction to Chinese craft. The first book is great! Very complete. I believe it is still in print. Worcester was a River Inspector who was released from his duties so that he could study, sketch, and write about the boats, people and their customs. This was during the 30s. He was in a Japanese camp for three years. It would be wonderful if a Chinese person who studied these "boats" would write a book. Dave Bohen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "John Rule" Subject: Conversion Factor Re: question about converting 1/700 scale to scale inches. The first question that springs to mind is why? But if you insist here are a few: 1" = 58'-4" 1" = 19yds 1ft 4inches 1" = 0.8838384 chains 1" = 0.08838384 furlongs 1" = 0.011047979798 miles (statute, of course) Or for the diehard ship modeller you only have to remember that 1" = 0.067606722 Yamatos, that is if you have one around to use as a scale. Believe for 1/700 scale the use of the ratio is a lot easier. John Rule (Tongue in cheek, the rest's in Canada) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Shaya Novak" Subject: The Naval Base in NYC Closed at the end of May '99. Just not enough retail business for ships even in The Big Apple. See us at: http://www.modelshipbuilding.com Shaya -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Kelvin Mok" Subject: Re: Chinese Junks Hi Shane Peng has set Mr. Chen's pdf file on his models of Chinese river junks on his server at: http://www.ee.ualberta.ca/~pmok/chinese_junks.pdf for those who may want to view it. Kelvin Mok (klmok@home.com) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: FOP5@aol.com Subject: Wanted to buy Looking for models to purchase of Ocean liners,Carferries,Tug Boats ,Cruise ships, commerical ships, Coast Guards Rescue Boats,Etc. Past and Present You can contact me at my e-mail FOP5@aol.com Carmen J. Balsama Sr. SMML Member -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume