Subject: SMML26/07/99VOL618 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:22:12 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: HMS Warspite Camoflage 1941 2: Re: First Ship models 3: New Fujimi Kitty Hawk 4: 1/700 Gearing Kits 5: BROWN STUDY 6: First model 7: My first ship model 8: Re: My first model... 9: Still Looking 10: Re: First model 11: First Model ship 12: Re: 1999 IPMS/USA Nationals - Any news? 13: Re: My First ship model 14: 1999 IPMS Nationals quick report 15: WWII Merchant Ships 16: My First Model 17: Re: First Model / Live Fire Exercise 18: First model and HMCS Prince Robert query 19: WWII Merchant Ships 20: Re: Lionfish/Drum/Tigerfish? 21: Accommodation Ladder Davits -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Re: WWII Merchant Ships 2: WWII Merchant Marine ships 3: F-18 Breaking the SOUND BARRIER 4: New York Ship & Boat Model Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Michael Eisenstadt Subject: HMS Warspite Camoflage 1941 Art: Regarding camo worn by Warspite in spring 1941; I have a photo of Warspite in company with HMS Illustrious (the photo misidentifies her as HMS Formidable), pre-Bremerton rebuild, and she is wearing the same pattern AP507B and AP507C she wore after refit at Bremerton. You can tell that it is before the refit because: 1) Warspite is lacking the radar lantern on the foremast starfish which was added during the visit to Bremerton, and 2) Illustrious in in the two-tone AP 507A/C camouflage scheme worn when she was bombed in the Med in January 1941 and briefly upon her return to UK after repairs in Norfolk, Virginia. The photo appears on p. 36 of "The Mediterranean Fleet: Greece to Tripoli, The Admiralty Account of Naval Operations: April 1941 to January 1943," which was published by the MoD in the UK during WWII. I also have photos of Warspite which I believe were copied from V.E. Tarrant's book on the Warspite (I can't believe I didn't annotate the photos!) which show her (pp. 105, 109) in her pre-Bremerton configuration in the two tone sheme. In the second photo, the caption reads "Warspite, en route to Bremerton, USA, from Alexandria, to effect repairs to the bomb damage suffered off Crete." So if the latter caption is chronologically accurate, we have photos of Warspite in the two-tone scheme which span a period beginning at latest, at about the time of the bombing of Illustrious (Jan 41) to the bombing of Warspite off Crete (May 41). It seems plausible, if not likely that she was wearing this scheme the entire time. Regarding the first photo, does anyone know when Warspite and Illustrious last operated together prior to the bombing of Illustrious in Jan 41? Such info might help date this photo. Maybe there's someone out there who has the Tarrant book who can check to confirm that this is the source of the latter photos? I'm certain the photos were from a book devoted exclusively to Warspite and this is the only one that comes to mind (I'm certain they weren't from the Anatomy of the Ship book on Warspite). Hope this helps! Best wishes, Mike Eisenstadt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Growlrr@aol.com Subject: Re: First Ship models Funny you should ask - I was over my mothers helping clean out the attic - I hadn't really thought about what had been up there. The first ship I clearly remember was a Spanish galleon Ghost ship! - The thing came complete with glow-in-the-dark "skull and cross bones stickers (NOT decals! Stickers!) and a special bottle of glow-in-the-dark paint to slop all over it when you were done...This must have been the early 70's and I was about eight...Guess what? there it was sitting in a shoe box - still "rigged" (sort of)....It now occupies a prominent place in my show/trophy room..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Loren Perry Subject: New Fujimi Kitty Hawk The new Fujimi 1/700 scale USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63) is pretty good, but definitely not state of the art. Price is over $63 US and it comes with a full hangar deck (three pieces plain, no details.) The hull is waterline only with no underwater features. Air wing is molded in clear plastic and includes eight F-14s, twelve F-18s, and four SH-60s with two clear plastic tow tractors included. Aircraft are very well detailed with separate landing gear and drop tanks. The ship's detailing is sparse - no engraved watertight doors, empty catwalks on the flight decks, empty platforms on the hull. Island detailing and engraving is fair. However, an LSO platform with windscreen is included. The overall shapes appear to be pretty good with a few minor exceptions. The kit represents the carrier in her latest configuration with no spare parts or provisions for back-dating. Mast detailing is good. All four elevators are separate and can be positioned up or down. The decal sheet is outstanding with excellent and colorful ship markings and full squadron markings for the aircraft. The instruction sheet is of the typical modern Japanese style with good drawings and the bulk of the text in Japanese. However, they mistakenly show the optional hangar hull doors being installed on the outside of the hull instead of the inside as is the case on the real ship. Also coming from Fujimi in 1/700 scale is Constellation (CV-64) and Enterprise (CVN-65.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Lisa and Bill Wiseman Subject: 1/700 Gearing Kits I have some questions about 1/700 USS Gearing Class DD's. I need a Gearing Class after FRAM in the mid-late 60's.. I thought I saw someplace that ISW is releasing a FRAM Gearing. Anybody know if I was hallucinating, or, if not, the release date? I saw on Bill's Pacific Front site the Jim Shirley Gearing. The drawing looks like a FRAM Gearing. Is it and if so is it a good kit? I have been asked to produce a couple 1/700 FRAM Gearings for the Agerholm Association's reunion in September to use as raffle prizes. I'm trying to convert the old Albatross kit from WWII to FRAM The problem, in addition to reworking all the weather decks and superstructure, is the Albatross has no doors, hatches or any other type of surface detail. I need 1/700 so the Prize winners can get their trophies home. The main exterior differences between the WWII and the FRAM are the loss of one of the 3" .50 mounts, the removal of the secondary armament, the Radar/Antennae arrays, the enclosure of the bridge wings, the addition of the Helo deck and hangar, and the replacement of the midship torpedo mounts with the ASROC launchers. None of which are real difficult in 1/700 but going through to add all of the doors, firefighting stations, life rings, and life boats would be a royal bother if a decent kit already exists. I'll finish the conversion for my Dad to put in his new office at work. (the 1/350 scratch built is too big). Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Doc Wiseman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Baker Subject: BROWN STUDY Re Mr. Langtree's zing in yesterday's SMML, may I only say that, on the basis of nearly over five decades of study of the field (during 3.3 of which it earned me a very good living) that while British warships have long had a most pleasing aesthetic aura, at no time during this century (and seldom for over a century prior) was British warship design ahead of USN practice and execution in any feature essential to the conduct of combatant operations. David K. Brown's book is very likely near-on to authoritative on the subject of British warship design, in which he was deeply involved for many, many highly productive years, but he is much less knowledgable about U.S. design and displays in a number of his writings a bias against U.S. work that seems based more on envy of a larger and more successful institution than on any demonstrated analytical effort. It's understandable, but it's there. Cheers/Dave Baker -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Brent Jernigan Subject: First model Hi all, As a kid, my first model was a balsa and paper Supermarine Spitfire (~1975) It took skill way beyond my years and wound up in pieces in the bottom of my closet. Later I tried my hand at various Revell WWII planes (I was intensely interested in anything to do with flight). The first model I actually enjoyed building and painting was the Millenium Falcon from Star Wars (about 1980) and from there I went into a load of science fiction models before I quit modelling entirely while in college. Haven't done a damn thing for the last fifteen years until a friend got me hooked on 1/144 RC combat models. Now I'm working on a scratchbuilt 1942 IJN Mikuma. Brent Jernigan Midwest Battle Group IJN Mikuma (fitting out) "Inside every storm cloud lies a silver lining; hundreds of people are struck by lightning each year while looking for it." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "FCR" Subject: My first ship model Hello there I am sorry to answer so late but I took a week for summer holidays. Well, my first of all my ships was the USS Missouri of Academy at 1/800, today the hull or what remains of it is about to be converted into a space battleship?!? My second ship model (this is fun) have a better history, it was the Tirpitz from Heller at 1/2400, today the ship rests in the bottom of my fish aquarium and I must said that my two fishes (Valiant and Renown) loves to play with the wreck of the model. I didn't won't to say this but I "sunked" the USS Indianapolis with air-rifle shots to look like a naval battle (don't beat me) and then it came the cat of a friend of my and start to eat the masts of the ship (oh! How I am I feeling bad now). But I already buy another one to build it more seriously and to remain eternally in exposition. Happy Modeling Filipe Ramires -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Chris Hughes" Subject: Re: My first model... For warships, it would have to be the Airfix HMS Cossack, followed closely by Daring, Hotspur and Campbeltown... First ever model was a Hawker Hurricane (Renwal/Kielcraft??) made one afternoon at the tender age of six... First tank was the Airfix Churchill - all those road wheels! There's been a lot of plastic under the bridge since then, unfortunately 22 years of soldiering (and moving around the world) has meant that not too much survives from the early days, except in my spares box! However, I did get to build a lot of stuff on commission for various colleagues, including a massive "Arnhem" diorama which was eventually presented to Gen Sir Frank King (who was there...) The Tamiya Big E looms large, but wanting to get into the swing of ship modelling again has introduced me to 1/700 - as Caroline & Dave have discovered! Happy memories! Chris Hughes CJM.Hughes@BTInternet.com PS: If ever Lorna & Shane come "up top" for a visit, I'd like to introduce Lorna to a pal of mine who has a very large shelf full of Albatrii and Fokkers!! (Mostly hand painted and all of them exquisit!!) Chris, it's not if but when :-) We are planning an assault on the UK next year to coincide with the UK Nats. This trip promises to be a real blast!!! Mistress Lorna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Jimbo" Subject: Still Looking Thanks to those who emailed me last time. I am still looking for the following: Nichimo 1/500 scale Japanese ships Older Revell Large scale Sailing ships Aurora Sailing ships Heller large scale sailing ships and WWII 1/400 thanks again Jimbo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Michael Morse Subject: RE: First model I began building ship models in the late 1960's. I grew-up on the coast of Boston and watching ships steam in and out of the harbor was pretty commonplace. I read the book "Sink The Bismarck" when I was ten and built the Revell 1/570 Bismarck shortly thereafter. This event launched a lifelong addiction to warship models in all scales. I fondly recall bringing pocket-fulls of change to the local hardware store (the only place within walking/biking distance to where I lived) and coming away with a new Revell or Lindberg ship model which I usually completed in several days. Being that I started building models in the hayday of motorized warship models, I too sortied Bismarck, Hood, Yamato, Missouri and many others on the back pond after cramming firecrackers and wads of paper down the funnels which, after being lit, produced all those glorious sinkings. I also recall my father yelling at us out of concern that we were clogging-up the drainage pipes, which we were. At any rate, to this day I am still a fan of motorized warships. Though I mainly stick with small scale stuff now, I still like to build and sortie an occasional motorized model on the pool. Mike Morse Florida -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: graham walker Subject: First Model ship Well this is a nice hard one:) must of been the Hotspur or Cossack by Airfix, followed by a Spitfire ummm, when I was about ten, gee don't you just wish you still had every model you made, I remember making a 3ft long Leander Frigite back in the 70's with a two channel radio in it and attaching railway detonator to it and shooting at the dentonators with an air rifle. Result no ship and nearly no me:| Gee those things really go with a bang and whizzzzz. I remember having a Frog Blake? in 1/500 this was the Helecoptor cruiser and not the 6in gun one Tiger, funny I have only met one person who remembers this kit, I remember it well as that year we 3 kids only had two presants that xmas as my father was laid off from work due to heavy snow(builder). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Re: 1999 IPMS/USA Nationals - Any news? Hi, Does anyone have any news about the shipmodels at the 1999 IPMS/USA Nationals in Orlando? And is anyone going to have any photos of the models entered there? Thanks, Art Nicholson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "colin jones" Subject: Re: My First ship model Hi, I don't know if I'm doing this correctly, having logged on to your great site only days ago. My obsession started in the late 50's in UK with Eaglewall 1/1200, wish I knew what happened to them? On leaving school I went up a scale to Airfix 1/600, and during my early naval service I made a variety of sail and steam kits, with a big preference for carriers, as I served on HMS Eagle's 5th commission. The seventies and eighties saw me into 1/700 Waterline Tamiya which are still my preference in plastic. I have been living in Beijing for the last four years where I have surviving on a diet of the local pirate copies of everyone else's 1/700 kits, plus expanding my now large collection of GHQ's 1/2400 WWII Micronauts, simply the worlds finest micro ships in pewter. When I first arrived in China and found the model markets I thought all my birthdays had come at once. Staggering home with arms full of 1/700 Japanese Battle wagons and carriers, only to find most were the same mould!! However they are very cheap and lend themselves very well to conversions. Col Jones - Australian living in Beijing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Ed Grune Subject: 1999 IPMS Nationals quick report I just got back from Orlando this afternoon, and I have some successes and failures to report. The convention was held in the Caribe Royale resort - a very large complex which was painted in what could only be described as RN Pink with RN Light Mountbatten Pink trim. We took the Snyder & Short color chips outside with us and verified the colors. First of all, a report on the failure -- there were only five Fletcher models on the table for the SMML build the same ship contest. We had hoped for more. There was a USS John Roberts and USS Pringle from Jerry Cramer, a USS Radford by Mike Quan, and I had a USS Pringle and a USS Fletcher. Steve Wiper of Classic Warships said that he will be sending something along to all of the participants. Thanks Steve. Now on to success -- The model that was judged the best ship and voted the most popular by the attendees of the show was the USS Tarawa helicopter carrier in 1/700 th scale. It was by a man named Sharpe, and I apologize for missing his first name, I think it was Jerry. This model was beautiful and superbly done. All of the brass railings were straight and true, the antennas were flawless and the full complement of crewmen working on the deck were painted in the rainbow jerseys of aircraft handlers and afixed without the appearance of drops of CA. It was beautiful -- and the awards show that it was appreciated. That makes two years in a row that a ship has taken a major award, last year being the judges grand award for a USS Texas. The bar has been raised and the standard set. Start thinking now about what we, as the ship modelers segment of the hobby, can do to keep the streak alive. I checked the IPMS Florida site just before starting this mail and the results and photos had not been posted yet. I'm sure that they will be after the people who put on the convention and show take a much needed and well deserved rest. I have a roll ready to go to into the developer first thing tomorrow -- maybe I'll have a few first shots ready for tomorrow night. Other notes: The JAG Collective, a new resin ship modeler and caster was there with their initial releases. Their web site can be found off the Warships home page. They do some good stuff. They had their Asheville patrol craft and PT-200 [2 per bag] in 350th scale available for sale. Both were very well done, with clean and crisp castings. The instructions are lacking right now --they're still being completed. In 700th scale they had a FRAMed Gearing and several pre-Los Angeles SSN (Skipjack & Sturgeon) available as waterline. They said that they almost have a SSN Permit ready -- look for it soon. Also nearly ready is an excellent CGN LongBeach. They said to look for them before the end of August. They had a test shot of the Popular Mechanics Stealth CVN. It looked quite nice. I also spent some time with the people at Loose Cannon. They too can be found off the Warships web site. In addition to their new Dixie/Vulcan ADs and Sperry AS's they had the masters for their APA hulls, These releases will be coming along soon. I'll post more later after I catch some rest. Ed Mansfield, TX 30 miles from Dallas, location of the 2000 IPMS National Convention. I hope to see many of you here next year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: the Legend of LAX Subject: WWII Merchant Ships Al Sniff wrote: >> Where can I locate models of a WWII T-2 Tanker and Liberty Ship. Your help would be appreciated. Former Armed Guard Sailor who sailed those type ships in WWII. << Bluejacket at one time made a T-2 (kit #1026) & a liberty ship (kit #1025). I don't know if they are in the catalog any more or not. Revell makes a T-2 kit that was just reissued. It is the USS Mission Capistrano. I bought this one & am converting it to be like the one I sailed on one summer (my first merchant ship) that was owned by Trinidad Corp. I have some b/w pictures I can scan if you are interested. There is also a T-2 web site at: http://www3.edgenet.net/dwhitt/t2tanker.html Dale G Elhardt Lakewood Ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: Cadman Subject: My First Model I have really enjoyed reading about everyone's entry into ship modeling. Mine was the USS Missouri, in 1/600 scale I think. What a great ship she floated in the tub and with that flat bottom she would sit on the table without rolling over! That was just the beginning for me as a few years later I discovered 1/700 waterline. I lost interest 15 years ago when I thought I had built everything the US Navy had in WW2. Now I'm back in a big way due to the efforts of the Resin Ship makers that have offered the kits that I always wanted to build. Thanks guys, keep em coming. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Minadmiral@aol.com Subject: Re: First Model / Live Fire Exercise Hi All; I can`t recall my first model exactly. The balsa carrier with the cut out aircraft sounds very familiar, though. My second or third was helping my grandfather re-paint and put new sails on a 24" sailboat in 1952 that we sailed in the ponds at Bodega Bay (site of Hitchkock`s film The Birds). I know the length exactly. 47 years later it is in my garage, in need of new mast, paint, and sails. The first plastic kit that comes to mind is in the early 60`s. It was a large, 2 foot long or so?, model of the OREGON. The motorized one. I saved money from lawn jobs for a month. I built it up and tried to paint it up like the box cover, with automotiv paint. It softened the plastic and she looked like she had been moored inboard of NAGATO at Bikini. But the hull was still watertight. The next nice day 3-4 of us went over to Lake Murrey Reservoir and set her afloat. Turned on the electric motor and away she sailed accross the water. I took a few shots with a bb gun, no effect, .22 pellet gun knocked off some pieces. One friend shot 3-4 .22 rifle shots and did more damage. We were having funn!! Then the other guy with us, a little older, opened up the gun case he was carrying and took 2 shots. Ever seen the bullet for a Weatherby .357?? This was supposed to be a medium range big game rifle. First shot missed. Second hit-plastic pieces all over, sinking rapidly. Left anything over .22 home next few trips. Chuck Duggie PS. Working on a PT Dockyard 1:600 GABBIANO and a 1:150 TARTANE. And about 3000 tiny little 1:6000 scale wargame ships. Almost every warship 1900-1945. No P.E. for these. I bet I beat everyone here for the sheer number of models, but the average size is small. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Bob Pearson" Subject: First model and HMCS Prince Robert query Hi Lorna, Tell that lazy so-and so to get up and tell us about his first model* .... Mine? Well since you asked. I received three civilian light planes (one was yellow and one was blue) and the Revell Forrestal for my eighth birthday back in 1972. IIRC the planes were beside the bed when I woke up and I built them immediately from same location. .. Forrestal my dad built. Within a very short time all my spare change was going for various kits .. The next ships were a few years later when I saved all my pennies and bought the Lindberg motorized Bismarck and Tirpitz. These seemed to follow the pattern already expressed of violent demises .. so I got them again ... and the same thing happened. However the most devastaing loss was the Tamiya Vosper FPB Perkasa. . it survived many a sailing on a violent wave swept lake, only to sink in a calm log strewn pond .. we spent hours trolling for it but no luck :-( Balsa aircraft followed until the mid-teens at which time I began to scratchbuild 1/1128 scale ships (why such a weird scale - I know not), within a short time I had about 100 of these and then along with a friend we scratchbuilt all the RN and HSF in WW1 in 1/1200 for a series of wargames (remember how in Red Dwarf Rimmer has his Risk Campaign book .... I have the War Diary of the HSF in which Gross Admiral von Pearson defeated Admiral Talbot) .. but these were too big so I then embarked on doing the same in 1/2400 scale. I now have about 1000 of these from WW1, WW2 and modern (or they were as of ten years ago anyway). Around 1981 or so SSM was running a series of articles on RC Combat, so I ordered some plans and built the 1/144 Exeter and San Francisco from these plans. . however right after I finished building the hull (but prior to adding the drive train) on the Exeter I got a letter from the designer saying there was a boo-boo in the prop shaft angle. .. . never did fix it. I then built a 1/144 Belfast and drew up plans for a Giovanni Delle Bande Nere and USS Pennsylvania, but never built them either. All of these were lost in a move years ago. After graduation I scratchbuilt a 1/400 scale USS San Francisco. Started a wooden HMS Bounty (5 years later stil needs to be planked .. I like rigging - hate planking), carved many smaller sailing ships for wargame usage ...and then that was it for the next five years . ... then one day in 1988 I saw in the local hobby shop the long wanted Airfix Albatros D.V and RE8 ... my interest in WW1 aviation returned and since then I have gone on to do serious research in this area (even been published). Naval stuff has always been in the background and then suddenly a few months back I was bit bigtime and at present have 10 ships in various stages of construction (five German destroyers, four RN destroyers, HMS Ariadne, and an IJN destroyer). this brings me to my query . . I would like to build the RCN AA 'cruiser' HMCS Prince Robert. So far I can only find one photo of her in the book 'RCN in Retrospect'. Is anyone aware of any drawings or other photos of her? * Shane and Lorna are friends I talk to everyday. .. the remark is made in jest. Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 Aviation page http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: Ed Grune Subject: WWII Merchant Ships Al Sniff wrote: >> Where can I locate models of a WWII T-2 Tanker and Liberty Ship. Your help would be appreciated. Former Armed Guard Sailor who sailed those type ships in WWII. << Al: Models of both the T-2 tanker and Liberty Ship are available. In 1/700th scale (thats about 6 to 8 inches long), the T-2 is available from Loose Cannon Productions. You can check out their product list at: http://warship.simplenet.com/Loosecannon.htm It is a cast resin and etched brass kit -- with a lot of small parts. The Liberty ship is also available in resin from Toms Modelworks at http://www.tomsmodelworks.com/700_kits.htm Again, a lot of small parts. The Liberty ship is available in injected plastic from the manufacturer Skywave as either the AK-99 Bootes or as the AK-121 Sabik. A reliable source for these is Pacific Front - check their catalog starting at http://warship.simplenet.com/pacfront.htm In 350th scale (twice as big as the 1/700th scale) your choices get fewer, in fact I can't think of any. Revell models has a fit-the-box scale of the T-2 tanker - sold as the Mission Capistrano. As you go up in size and scale you can find the Liberty ship in 1/92 scale also. I suggest you start with the pages listed at the bottom of the Warship page, look around and go from there. I hope this helped? Ed Mansfield, TX ps: Al, If you have any personal photos of your ships I would be interested in seeing them. Contact me off the list. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Tom Eisenhour Subject: Re: Lionfish/Drum/Tigerfish? Regarding filing out the limber holes on the Revell Lionfish kit, Tom Doughery wrote: >> To make the holes, I drill an opening slightly smaller than the finished one, and use a file to carefully shape it to the sideways D. Slots you drill two holes and file out in between. Sand off all those Revell limber hole outlines in the plastic. This process of making the limber holes is VERY, VERY tedious.. << Here's another tip: The plastic on the hull is very thick. Sand the back of the casing to reduce its thickness and open the limber holes BEFORE you join the hull halves. It's a lot easier and looks more realistic. Or better still, just wait until Tom's Modelworks releases it's 1/200 Balao kit. . Yet Another Tom (Eisenhour) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Felix Bustelo Subject: Accommodation Ladder Davits Hello All, I was wondering if the davits for accommodation ladders are fixed in place or are they removed when the ship is under way and the ladders stowed? The reason for asking is I am not sure if I need to add the davits included with WEM's Iron Duke set on my Airfix kit since I am not going to model the ship with the ladders in place. BTW - I wish to thank all of you who have been visiting my site, International Maritime Modeling http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm and have helped made it a "success". The number of hits have exceeded 13,000 this weekend. Regards, Felix Bustelo Congratulations Felix! Great news - Mistress Lorna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Kenneth H. Goldman" Subject: Re: WWII Merchant Ships BlueJacket Ship Crafters makes wood models of both the Liberty ship and T-2 tanker, as well as a Victory ship in 1:192 scale. The catalog I have is two years old but lists their phone as (800)448-5567. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER http://www.wman.com/~khgold/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Shaya Novak" Subject: WWII Merchant Marine ships Liberty, Victory and T-2 Tankers can be found at: http://www.modelshipbuilding.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Shaya Novak" Subject: F-18 Breaking the SOUND BARRIER Naval Base has an actual photo of a Navy F-18 breaking the SOUND BARRIER goto: the bottom of the "AIRCRAFT" page http://www.modelshipbuilding.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Felix Bustelo Subject: New York Ship & Boat Model Festival Hi again, I would like to tell everyone about the 9th Annual New York Ship & Boat Model Festival, which will be held on August 7 and 8 from 1 - 5 PM at the South Street Seaport Museum in downtown New York City. This is a great, non-competitive show where you can see lots of great ship models, both static and working and plastic and wooden. It is a great way to spend an afternoon in the Big Apple. I will be there on Sunday, August 8th ONLY! So, if you can come in, please stop by my table and say hello. Regards, Felix Bustelo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume