Subject: SMML19/08/99VOL642 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:18:48 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Plans of the Yamato and Shinano and Oyodo 2: Re: Blue Water Navy customer service-NOT 3: Snyder & Short Colour charts 4: Re: Blue Water Navy customer service-NOT 5: SMML international survey 6: German Schnellboote Info Request 7: Re: Haze Gray in spray cans 8: 50 BBs? 9: Recollections! 10: Japanese submarines 11: Re: TEXAS and Shipmodeling 12: Re: Blue Water Navy customer service-NOT 13: type 148 fast patrol boat 14: Re: The Enterprises 15: wood/plywood 16: Re: Marmite 17: Painting of Gun Tubs 18: Re: SMS Lutzow 1916 & Admiral Scheer colors 19: Re: Schooner ENTERPRISE of 1799 20: Camouflage and the Mary Rose 21: Re: New England Visit 22: Blue Water & Marmite 23: various subjects 24: Sinking Your Own Ships? 25: USS Enterprise (1799) 26: Depth Charge Racks 27: Scale Cruisers 28: Type XIV U-boot. 29: Channel Dash escorts 30: New England Museums -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Maritime Modeler Magazine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Plans of the Yamato and Shinano and Oyodo In late 1973 while visiting S fukui in Yokohama, he showed me a set of drawings that included several detailed arrangements for the bridge structure. These included As&As that were in colour, a common practice with alterations made to official plans. These drawings did NOT appear to be copies but were the originals on linen trace, and not rice paper. I also remember seeing other bits of the ship, again these plans were not copies but I believe were originals and like the bridge plans had alterations in colour. The only major vessel for which he did not have the official and original plans, was of the Shinano. I was told that a retired Japanese Admiral held these plans. I had the feeling that the plans in question were a detailed set of general arrangement drawings, and not those that were published in the book PLANS OF SHIPS OF THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE NAVY, which appear to be a Contract set of plans and therefore lacking in detail. I spent about eight hours in his company; he enjoyed Scotch and must have smoked over forty cigarettes while I was there. He said that his favorite ship was the Oyodo, perhaps because he was the constructor responsible for her refits. I remember that he spent a long time going over her plans, explaining features in detail of the original configeration, and then he brought out the set of plans drawn up showing the configeration (in detail) after refit during which the very large catapult was removed. And again he went over (in detail) the ships fit, including the changes made during refit. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: MBishop446@aol.com Subject: Re: Blue Water Navy customer service-NOT >> From: "Aylin Kececi" Subject: Re: Blue Water Navy customer service-NOT << Sorry, But this person never purchased anything from MB Models, Highflight or BWN. I have no idea what he is talking about. As far as getting replacement parts, I do send them out when and only when the damaged or defective part is returned. If someone is missing a part I need a proof of purchase from them in order to get the part sent to them. There are too many, way too many people that love to get something for nothing and copy it. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "foeth" Subject: Snyder & Short Colour charts I've recieved mine yesterday, and I suggest everybody orders them at once, even if you're not part of the Farben Gestapo. It gives you a good indictation what colours to use. Foeth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Kevin Wenker Subject: Re: Blue Water Navy customer service-NOT >> Here are a few words regarding the subject matter. I did try to do business with the mentioned manufacturer. I ordered one batch of products (not just naval but other modeling rlated items as well) and to queries (such as papers and invoices) didn't get any response. After I wired the money it took them months to send the parcel with missing parts. Did not get an invoice and had trouble with the customs. Further did noteven try asking for replacement parts. That was my first and the last attempt to do business with them. It would be easier to import or buy from retailers rather than directly, thus avoiding any trouble. By the way, we were shaken with measure 7.8 according to Richter scale, here in ISTANBUL. Thousands of dead. I was in the city. We had about 250 after-quakes since then, some measuring 5.5. This is an experience I would NOT wish for anybody. << ALP, First, glad to hear you are safe and hope your family is. Our sympathy to your countrymen who are suffering from this tragedy. As to BWN, I thought I was the only one - likes there are many of us who have experienced poor to zero quality control and terrible customer service. Have we let BWN know that we know? Perhaps the best way to approach this is with our wallets. Anyone else out there have our same experiences with them? By the way, Tom from Tom's Modelworks will probably not want me to do this, and he does not know I am posting this but he sent me an email yesterday offering to replace *AT NO CHARGE* the parts which were missing or damaged in the BWN West Virginia. He didn't do it for publicity or to curry favor - he did it to help a fellow ship modeler out. I gratefully declined as I plan to get Tom's version of the WeeVee just as soon as I get back from vacation. But I find his actions and offer as deserving of notice within our group. Even if he had offered them to me at just cost it would have been over and above. But at no charge!!! Tom, you did yourself proud. I think such concern for our hobby needs to be recognized and supported. I will never buy another Blue Water Navy product, but you can believe Tom's Modelworks will see a lot more of me. Kevin Wenker -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Humber, Thom" Subject: SMML international survey Being a cartographer, I feel compelled to respond. Thom Humber Fountain, Colorado USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Kevin Wenker Subject: German Schnellboote Info Request Does anyone have any information resources for a German S-100 class E-boat? I just bought one of the 1/35 scale ones from Pacific Front (there goes the budget) and will be looking for some paint schemes, lettering, details and so forth. If anyone has any experience with the kit, that would be appreciated too. Oh, I will be converting it to RC. Thanks Kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Haze Gray in spray cans >> Can anyone tell me why there isn't a can of Hazy gray out there. I sure hate hooking up my spray gun to paint a small piece for my ships. But I bet the Paint Guys have the answer. << The reason is simple. Naval colors aren't even close to the popularity of the auto, a/c and armor colors out there. Unfortunately ship models are at the bottom of the list of modeling popularity. Believe me, if there were sufficient numbers of potential sales out there we would have naval colors filling the shelves. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah, I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: KDur597268@aol.com Subject: 50 BBs? Hi folks - Indulge me in a trivia question - has every state had a BB named after it? (Can you tell I'm having trouble sleeping??) Was running through them in my mind - I'm certainly no battleship expert but found myself wondering, since I couldn't exactly think of a USS New York, Hawaii, or Louisiana. I'm sure they probably exist, but wonder what the group says. I think I made every other state at least ring a bell . . . Ken Hi Ken, From memory, I think that not every US state has had BBs named after them. I think some CA's were named after states as well eg: Alaska (OK, so it was basically a battlcruiser). Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "LAMKEEL" Subject: Recollections! Dear Mistress Lorna and Shane Firstly Mistress Lorna, may I say how well you performed after you were pushed into the breech last month. Secondly, just how much I look forward to these electrical transmissions each day. The variation of subjects from all round the globe, and the expertise hanging onto every word of wisdom. (I do like my marmite and solders too). Thinking way back to my modelling days, about the first I can recall, was a wooden kit of an aircraft carrier, a light fleet type, for my birthday or Christmas towards the end of the war. It was never built that I recall, being my age. I cannot recall what happened to it. In my school days a group of us used to make balsa model aircraft, and then onto plastic kits. Airfix and Monogram were names I recall. One that I superdetailed was the Frog, Battle Class destroyer. H.M.S. Cadiz if I recall. During one of my R.N. leaves I met the late Norman Ough. He resided in the loft above shops in Charing Cross Road. I had been an avid collector of his warship and weapon drawings since my schooldays, and it was through his influence, and Alan Raven, that I started my own drawings. In 1965, when I left the R.N. and joined "The Job", I made plastic kits for display in Thurrlies (I think it was) shop window. A model shop in Turnpike Lane in Hornsey, North London. Aircraft, tanks, and the usual Airfix warships. (Those were the days). After a while the owner let me choose my own subject for display. Oh, another I recall that was on display in our living room, was the Grand Banks Schooner, a racing yacht if I recall, and of course H.M.S. Victory and Cutty Sark. I started work on a scratchbuilt, H.M.S. Amethyst to Norman Oughs plans, but that too was never completed 100%. I must confess that I have not built a model for some 30 years now, but I do enjoy the efforts of others. I attend modelling shows over here in the U.K. and meet up with people that I have only known as a voice on the telephone. I have seen some excellent scratchbuilt coastal forces gain gold medals, that were produced from my drawings, and commercial companies utilise my efforts too. Changing the subject, the non-mention of those Flower Class whatsits, is causing me limited stress. So I will leak the info, that everything crossed the pond about three weeks ago, and the book layout is being prepared right now. (Yes they are up in America). THIS IS NOT A BUZZ. Further to yesterdays message about Conway Maritime Press, I knew that something was afoot. They paid our outstanding royalties, for 1998. (You will have a cheque soon Al). This coming weekend I am visiting the Portsmouth area, to undertake some research, and meet up with some friends visiting from Connecticut. (I will attempt to sell them some wet wood, and tell them its from the Mary Rose. I bet it rains anyway. Oh, as an afterthought, Mr Jones, I have started work on part two of Kittiwake, but keep holding your breath. Yours "aye". John Lambert. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Japanese submarines Hi Chas If it's the bombing of the forests your referring to, the submarine was the I-25 of the class New Junsen Type B. The aircraft involved was a Yokusuka E14Y (allied code name Glen) which was specially developed for submarine useage. Two attacks were carried out in retaliation for the Dolittle raid on the 9th and 29th of September 1942. Both were even less effective than the Dolittle effort. Boyd and Yoshida (The Japanese Submarine Force and World War II) have more details on all the attacks carried out by Japanese submarines on the US mainland. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Katz, Gene S" Subject: Re: TEXAS and Shipmodeling As a naturalized Texan and former Houstonian, I spent many fine hours aboard USS TEXAS. Somewhere I have beaucoup 35mm slides of her. As to the Great State of Texas being thrown in with all the other countries of the world, I am sorry to say, it just isn't so. Texas is not another country, it is a State of Mind created by God on the 8th Day! I may not have been born there, but got down there just as soon as I could. Funny thing, I never made one ship model while in Texas. There was just too much to see and do and too much Texas to absorb! Texas junior high school history informs us that Texas reserved the right to re-recede from the Union if they took a mind to declare themselves the Second Republic of Texas, and that Texas had the right to subdivide itself into 4 (or maybe 5) states after that. What has all this to do with shipmodeling? Not much, just an attempt to spread a bit of Texas culture among the great unwashed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Reynaga, Tim@EDD" Subject: Re: Blue Water Navy customer service-NOT Tom & Jane: I assume that you are referring to my post in SMML the other day. I'm sorry if I left the impression that I meant a particular company called "Cottage Industries (C.I.)"of South Carolina-I didn't. I used the term "cottage industries" in the generic sense of a small, often informally organized and home-based company, such as many resin model manufacturers. I believe Blue Water Navy was such a company at the time that I was dealing with them. Sorry about the confusion. Tim Reynaga -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Ernst-Bernhard Kayser Subject: type 148 fast patrol boat A little while ago I asked for a source of plans for the type 148 fast patrol boats of the modern German navy. So far, there was only Shane's suggestion to get the Revell kit of a type 143 boat and embark on plastic surgery. After gathering the available information on the www it turned out that these other boats are substantially bigger than my boat: type 148 47.0m x 7.1m x 2.66m 264tons type 143 57.6m x 7.76m x 2.56m 390tons Superstructure and mast are different too. Thus I still need plans (preferentially with lines). Yet, Shane's idea isn't all bad. Since, once the correct hull will be ready the kit could be pilfered for the 76mm Oto Melara gun and the containers for the Exocet missiles. (Thank's for pointing me to the kit Shane.) To all the others out there... any suggestions where to get the information I need? The boat in question is: in particular the "S54 ELSTER" of the German navy, or in general a "CLASS/TYPE148 Schnellboot" (fast patrol boat/ attack boat/ missile boat) also sometimes referred to as "TIGER class boats". The hulls were produced in Cherbourg, France. Thus, maybe the French operate the same class of boats too, under a different designation. Any help is welcome Bernhard Hi Bernhard, No worries, as I said I don't know all that much about German PBs, so it was really only an halfarsed suggestion. Glad it was to some benefit. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: John.Kauck@rrd.com Subject: Re: The Enterprises In response to Ray Katzaman's question: The ENTERPRISEs: The first ENTERPRISE in US naval service was a 70 ton Sloop of War captured from the British on 18 May 1775. She served on Lake Champlain for just over 2 years before running and being burned to prevent capture 7 July 1777. The next ENTERPRISE was a 25 ton privateer schooner purchased by the Continental Navy on 20 Dec 1776. She served in Chesapeake Bay for a short period of time, and was returned to the Maryland Council of Safety in February, 1777. The third ENTERPRISE was a 125 ton schooner built in 1799. She fought in the the Quasi-war with France, Barbary Wars, the War of 1812, and against pirates, slavers and smugglers in US waters. In these duties she captured, defeated or recovered 3 dozen ships. On 9 July 1823 she ran aground and was lost. The fourth ENTERPRISE was a 194 ton schooner commissioned in 1831. She spent a total of 6 years patrolling off South America and sailed around the world once before decommissioning 24 June 1844. She was sold shortly thereafter. The next ENTERPRISE was a 1375 ton bark-rigged, steam-powered Sloop of War commissioned 16 March 1877. She spent the years 1877 to 1890 engaged in survey work, with several periods in reserve. During 1891-1892 she was a school ship at the Naval Academy, and became a training ship for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in 1892. She was returned to the Navy in 1909 and was sold 1 Oct 1909. Then came CV 6 commissioned 12 May 1938. Her WWII service is legendary. Then came CVAN 65 (CVN 65) commissioned 25 November 1961, the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier built, as well as the longest warship ever. For more info on the early Enterprises (and pictures) you can go to: http://www.navy.mil/homepages/cvn65/ Hope this helps, John Kauck -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Ron Hillsden" Subject: wood/plywood 1. Don't overlook your thrift stores. People are tossing water bed frames. Some are made of furniture grade wood, and I picked up a couple of pine frames for $15. Lumber of that quality is just not available in lumberyards here. One frame will give you more wood that you can use in a model boat. Shop carefully, they are also made of spruce, hemlock, balsam, fir, etc. 2. The advice re Luann is good for a full size boat, but we have found it acceptable for some models because we saturate it inside and out with epoxy or polyester resin. These are the doorskin sheets which are about 6'6" by 3'9", sell for about Can$8, made in the Philippines. They are suitable for frames and panels on simple hard chine boats. Expect to use a lot of bondo if you are going to use it for anything fancy - it's terrible wood to work with. The 4'x8' sheets are different. They are better quality and should have waterproof glue as they are made in the USA and Canada. They are made not for doors, but for feature walls or facing cabinets. Ron Hillsden Victoria BC Canada http://members.home.net/vmss/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "graham walker" Subject: Re: Marmite Marmite is made from by products from the local brewing industry in Burton upon Trent (small country town), where the best beer in the world is brewed (just happens to be where I live as well, 3 Major breweries with in 1/2 a mile of me, better still we still have more pubs per head of population than any where else, Hic, you should try the Golden mile, 1 mile =20 pubs a drink in each, and a curry at the end, next day is hell though. best wishes from Graham, where it is dull, heavy showers and a choice of 6 pubs with in 1 min walking distance and 1/2 hour crawling;) And your address is???? ;-))) Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Painting of Gun Tubs Gang, All of the color photographs I've seen featuring US Navy WW2 ships show the interior of gun tubs and inboard splinter shields to be painted the same as the surrounding superstructure. Mike L Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: Al Imler Subject: Re: SMS Lutzow 1916 & Admiral Scheer colors A good source of photo's of German WWI warships (battlecruisers) is the Koop and Schmolke book "Die Groben Kreuzer von der Tann bis Hindenburg". It is in German but the "pictures are in English". Several of the pictures havebeen published before, but many were new to my eyes. Another good book, but with far fewer pictures is Axel GrieBmer's GroBe Kreuzer der Kaiserlichen Marine 1906-1918. It is also in German text. One nice item with this book is some fold out general arrangement drawings of the von der Tann, Goeben/Moltke, Seydlitz, Lutzow, and Derflinger. Scale is I believe around 1/500. Both books are published by Bernard & Graefe Verlag. I purchased mine from Articles of War in Illinois. Forgive me I don't have the number on hand, they do have a Web page. Prices were between 50 and 60 Dollars each. I believe the DKM Admiral Scheer was painted in over-all Dark Graphite Gray in late 1944-early 1945. In Norway she was painted a combination of Silver Gray and Dark Graphite Gray. I could be wrong-if anyone else out there has any info, please share. Respectfully, Al Imler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: Rick Heinbaugh Subject: Re: Schooner ENTERPRISE of 1799 Reference is in Howard Chapelle's (rhymes with "chapel", as in the church, he said) "The History of American Sailing Ships" and "The History of the American Sailing Navy". The vessel's name is frequently referred to as ENTERPRIZE. Originally built as a schooner of 12 12 pdrs. Dimensions: length on deck 84'7", Moulded beam 22'6",said to be 23' beam over the thick wales. Depth in hold: 10' 135 tons. Rebuilt in Venice in 1805: 92'9" on deck, 23'9" extreme beam, 22'11" moulded beam, 10'10" depth of hold at mainmast. Rebuilt in 1811 as a brig, 14 guns. 80'6" between perpendiculars, 23'9" extreme beam. 14 18-pdr carronades & 2 long 9-pdrs. (How does THAT equate to the "14 guns" description usually seen?) Reference "Jack Tars & Commodores" by William M Fowler. JR & "Preble's Boys" by Fletcher Pratt: "Lucky Little ENTERPRISE" served in the Med. Squadron during the Barbary Wars, occasionally commanded by Lts Stephen Decatur & Isaac Hull. In New Orleans 1810-1812. September 4, 1813, defeated HM Brig BOXER off Portland, Maine. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Camouflage and the Mary Rose This is what one does when making a model of a Fletcher and how to paint it. You obtain a copy of Warship Perspectives on the Fletcher Gearing and Sumner classes which will give you almost every camouflage ever carried by every ship in the class. In addition you will have the author himself to ask questions of to fill in any gaps. What more could one ask for? Now that we have a halfway decent kit of an R/N WW1 configeration destroyer coming --- the Mary Rose, the time is ripe for SS to produce the correct colours for this period. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: New England Visit The best are Mystic, Battle ship Cove and the USS Constitution. This list is off the top of my head. I would be interested in other places to visit. One place that everyone misses, and it is very conveniently off of I-95 in Portsmouth NH, is the USS Albacore museum. Albacore was the Navy's experimental diesel submarine built in the early '50's. Sub hulls to that point were based on surface handling capabilities, as exemplified by the WWII Fleet Submarine, and German U-boats. The advent of higher submerged speeds (Type XXI U-boat and Guppy converted fleet subs) revealed significant control problems with the hull shape at higher speed. Albacore's unique "body of revolution" shape, later adapted for the diesel Barbel class, Skipjack and subsequent nuclear submarines, allowed her to make in excess of 30 knots submerged on silver batteries. The Albacore is displayed in a unique fashion. She was floated from the nearby river down an artificial canal, which was later backfilled and drained, leaving Albacore up on blocks. In addition to her unique hull, Albacore featured the transition to modern "aircraft" like controls, and also had the a number of experimental configurations. She is displayed in the latest outfitting, with an X-tail and dual contra-rotating propellers. Worth the visit for this unique piece of modern submarine history. Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Blue Water & Marmite If I'm not mistaken, Blue Water Navy is out of business these days. Gulfstream acquired many of the kits and I think Classic Warships bought them out in turn. Mike L Alexandria, VA USA PS - I enjoy a little Marmite as much as our cats do, and it's also good for filling seams on models (not really) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "Michael Quan" Subject: various subjects Subject: Japanese Sub Attack Oregon >> I'm wondering if any list members know the type of Japanese sub (and aircraft) that was involved in the attack on Brookings, Oregon during WWII. << The I-25 launched a Yokosuka E14Y1 Glen floatplane to make the attacks. Subject: USS Radford to reconstruct? Since there was a welcome post about the status of the USS Wisconsin, I thought I'd inquire of the list as to the current status and/or fate of the recently damaged Spruance-class USS Arthur Radford, DD-968? Mike Quan Garland, Texas - 20 miles from the site of the Y2K IPMS-USA National Convention -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Sinking Your Own Ships? >> When a warship sustains fatal damage but remains afloat sister warships hang around for some time and then the order is given to torpedo it or sink it by gunfire. Is there a naval tradition behind this? If not what is the reason? If its own side cannot salvage the ship it is unliklely the enemy would have any use for that ship either. << Not a tradition I am aware of, but I think the reasoning in some cases was to prevent the enemy from displaying a 'war trophy' for propaganda purposes. Mainly it was a precaution to deny possible intelligence (documents and hardware) information to the other side. These could not always be destroyed in a timely manner, if at all. The capture of U-505 in 1944 is an excellent example. Mike L Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: "Kenneth H. Goldman" Subject: USS Enterprise (1799) Enterprise, a square-tuck-stern schooner, was built by Henry Spencer, Eastern Shore, Maryland in 1799, the 3rd US vessel to carry that name. The schooner originally carried a 12 6-pounder battery which was increased to 14 18-pounder carronades and 2 long 9s after she was altered to a brig before 1811. She was wrecked in the West Indies in 1823. Length on deck 84'7", length on keel 60', molded beam 22'6", depth of hold at mainmast 10', 135 tons; rebuilt dimensions 80'6" b.p., 23'9" extreme beam, 165 tons. There is some discrepency over some of the numbers as no plans exist of her. 1801 - Sent with two frigates to blockade Tripoli. 1802 - Secretary of the Navy ordered Captain Bainbridge to supervise construction of new schooners at Philadelphia using Enterprises' plan rather than a new design, but the plan was not obtained. 1803 - Originally set to be stricken for the lists and sold by the Congressional Act of 03 March 1803, public and maritime protest in the newspapers halted her sale. 1803 - 23 December 1803 with Constitution captured Barbary vessel Mastico. 1811 - Sometime between 1806 and 1811 she was rebuilt into a brig. 1813 - Captured British gun brig Boxer , built 1812(10 18-pounder carronades, 2 long 6-pounders) 1823 - Wrecked in West Indies. ref: THE AMERICAN SAILING NAVY Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER http://www.wman.com/~khgold/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Depth Charge Racks >> Felix has a good question. Yes the tops of the gun housed should have the deck color, but what about the rest of the gear. I guess the DC ready racks should be painted the deck color, but the DC's? Should we be painting the "tops" of the DC's Deck Blue, or should they be a basic gray all over? Should the tops of gun barrels have the deck color and the rest the vertical color? << Mark - I recall from seeing the KIDD a couple years back that the charges were Haze Gray, as were the racks. The tops of the guns and the barrels were also Haze Gray; however, the Warship's Data book shows that for a time about February 1945, the DC racks were Navy Blue. The charges would have been the same color as the rack for simplicity's sake. The color was changed to Haze Gray during a refit around August 1945. Mike L Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: "Greg McFadden" Subject: Scale Cruisers I am looking for some good plans for Japaneese Light and Heavy cruisers in 1/144 or 1/96 scale for r/c use. Specifically, I am looking for the Takao, Tone, Agano, and Mogami -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Damian Pliszka Subject: Type XIV U-boot. Hi, Quick answer: 11700 mm (source: AJPress (Poland) series about u-boats). Damian Pliszka Poland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: Robert OConnor (by way of Greg Lee) Subject: Channel Dash escorts Hey, gang, This is a first time request at SMML for info on the DKM escort destroyers on the "Channel Dash". I'm particularly interested in the type, camouflage and other specific markings of any of the half-dozen or so destroyers which escorted the "bigs" from Brest in 1942. Any info is appreciated,including pointing me to publications,etc. Thanks in advance. Bob O'Connor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: "lcp9" Subject: New England Museums A couple other places that might be interesting are: Boston Fine Arts Museum, they have about a dozen 1/48 Navy Board type sailing ship models, State Street Bank, main office downtown Boston, has a large collection of high quality sailing ship models. The USS Constitution Ship Modelers Guild, meets in the Hull room Charlston Navy Yard, 730 PM 1st Tuesday of each month. Visitors are always welcome at meetings. Peabody Museum ,Salem Mass. Lots of stuff on the sailing ship era. Just East of the Bourn Bridge, (north side, west end of Cape Cod Canal), there is an icecream stand with a Steam powered tug boat. The tug was washed ashore by a hurricane, and is now high & dry, you can go aboard,walk around ect. The icecream is pretty good too. Down the street from Battle Ship Cove (USS Mass). is a ship museum, I don't recall the name of it, but the price of admission to USS Mass. included a ticket to this other Museum, Among other things, there was a large room with maybe a 100 cased builders type merchant, linner, warship models. Last but not least is Kaughlands Antiques I"m not sure of the spelling, pronounced caplands, It,s in Kingston MA,near Plymouth. They have rooms of nautical stuff, lights, trailboards, piecesof ships , a room with several 1/48 Dockyard sailing ship models,outside is a yard full of various type ventalators. Everyone in Kingston knows of it, and will give directions. In fact, I once stopped a fellow on the street to ask the time, all I got to say was" do you know-"and he started telling me how to get to Kaughlands! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: vbaca@gte.net Subject: Maritime Modeler Magazine A high quality magazine for all scale ship modelers is coming in January 2000. Maritime Modeler will be bi-monthly (6 times/year) and is actively seeking both contributors and subscribers. Maritime Modeler by Hundman Publishing pays authors, photographers and draftsmen well. We intend to print "cream of the crop" ship models and photography in all scales and subjects. If it was made to float, we are interested. We will also be featuring prototype plan and photo features that will allow the scratch builder to construct a scale model directly from our pages. There will also be features showing prototype photos of actual ships that are available as kits, plans and/or fiberglass hulls. Need drydock photos? We have 'em. Need plans? We have 'em. Need historical info? Yes, we'll have it as well. Some of the best writer's and modelers in our hobby are contributing to this effort and I know you won't be disappointed. Subscribe now or reserve your subscription by calling, toll free, Hundman Publishing at: (800) 810-7660. If you have any questions or would like to receive a writer's/photographer's guide, call the editor, Victor Baca at (360) 371-0290. You don't even need to be an accomplished writer, we can help you write your story or do a phone interview if you supply good photos. Please E-mail me at: vbaca@gte.net. Phone number for our editorial office is: (360) 371-0290. We are in the office most mornings before noon, West Coast Time. I will make no bones about it. Maritime Modeler will live or die by subscriptions; so call now and reserve yours. We will send you a full color mock-up of our first issue so you can judge for yourself before commiting to a subscription. This magazine is long overdue and we can make it happen! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume