Subject: SMML01/09/99VOL655 Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 01:45:25 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Several thanks and current projects 2: Iron Shipwrights - Great Customer Service 3: Tamiya Fletcher 4: Re: Heller RE-Issue Campaign 5: Convention and current projects 6: Current Projects 7: German Linoleum 8: Re: surveys 9: Sullivans book 10: SMML convention/Current Project 11: IJN Nagato 12: Diorama subject 13: On the workbench 14: Badger paints 15: Re: SMML convention 16: Current Projects 17: Re: Vent hood 18: On the Bench & the Workshop 19: Savannah and Warspite 20: Projects. etc 21: Re: Carrier Models 22: Michael Ainsworth 23: Heller Bismarck 24: Charles de Gaulle 25: Tamiya Bismarck 26: Backdating Enterprise 27: The Perfect Workshop, Sea and Deck Blues & Current Building Projects 28: Re: CW USS TEXAS Book 29: US National Archives II, Modified Didos, Edinburgh 30: Current projects.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: September Internet Modeler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Fernando, Yohan" Subject: Several thanks and current projects Just wanted to thank those individuals who answered my previous couple of questions with Italian DDs and the Brit LSTs at Normandy. I found a photo reference for the DDs and the 'D-Day Ships' book recommended to me at the local library. As for current projects: - a US LST from Skywave: a nice little kit to fit in between larger, more demanding projects. Can't wait to load up the deck with trucks. Future projects (ie. kits in my closet or in the mail) - HMS Badsworth (Type II Hunt class from B-Resina) - the other LST from the Skywave kit built up as a British one - IJN Akitsushima seaplane tender from Skywave - USS Sabik Liberty ship (Skywave) - IJN Jingei subtender (Skywave...again) - USS Saratoga with a nice dazzle scheme and a deckload of Hellcats and Avengers (I'm planning alot of reworking on this Fujimi kit) ...all in 1/700. Unfortunately, I can't get myself to work on more than one project at a time. I just can't stand the site of unfinished models... one is bad enough! Is it safe for me to say that at one time (read: a long time ago) I was also a sci-fi modeller? :-P Yohan Fernando Hi gang, Yohan brings up a point that is sometimes forgotton, in that your local library can be a source of reference material that is no longer available. so when you have time check it out & see what's there - you may be surprised. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Victor O. Prall" Subject: Iron Shipwrights - Great Customer Service While working on my current project, an Iron Shipwright Series 1/350 post Pearl Harbor U.S.S. California, I noticed I was missing one of four five inch gun directors. To make a long story short, I e-mailed Ted and Debra Paris about my missing part and they promptly sent me my 5 inch director plus four spares, a set of a dozen 5 inch gun turrets, and four engine room exhaust funnels. If that wasn't enough, they also included a complete 1/350 80 foot Elco PT boat kit with the things they sent me. Suffice it to say that my next project will be the Iron Shipwright 1/350 HMS Queen Elizabeth when it comes out this Fall. A happy customer, Victor Prall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" Subject: Tamiya Fletcher OK, the recommendation for first serious 1/350 ship model appears to be the Tamiya Fletcher. I can see doing it, but have some questions. For those who have read my earlier postings, you may have noticed my interest (obsession?) with ships named for Iowa subjects. I have the Tamiya MO with the CW conversion for Iowa, have the CW Des Moines/Salem on order from a local shop, and now I'm looking at a Fletcher. To that end, wasn't USS The Sullivans a Fletcher? They were from Iowa! If it was, what would it take to do the conversion, does anyone make such a conversion? Can anyone recommend a good reference to help me do it? Man, I can't do ANYTHING the easy way! ;-> On another note, I've already written Lorna and Shane privately to thank them for all they've done. This gives me the chance to do it publicly. So here goes. I'm going to do it. Right now: THANKS LORNA AND SHANE FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO. THIS IS A GREAT LIST! Michael Satin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "joseph w. reyna" Subject: Re: Heller RE-Issue Campaign Felix, Thanks much for your kind offer to use IMM to help nudge Heller on their kit reissues. I will certainly email them with my short (yeah, right) list of kits I'd like them to reissue, as well as a suggestion or two on new kits. Cheers all! Joe Reyna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Timothy Dike Subject: Convention and current projects I'd like to chime in on the convention theme. I would love to attend money and time permitting, but would prefer that it be in the fall, especially in the off season, as I've been gouged enough by inflated hotel rates this summer. Most hotels drop there rates in the fall and that would make the trip more affordable to some of us. As for current projects they are all 1:1 scale and involve my house. Cadman mailto:Cadman@kc.net http://www.kc.net/~cadman/ "A still sea never wrought a skillful sailor" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Kevin Wenker Subject: Current Projects Current Projects: First current project is 1/35 scale Schnellboote - kit by Azimut. This is some kit - the resin casting is superb. It did set my wallet back, but well worth it. I am converting it to RC and spent all Sunday milling out the resin deck parts to lighten them up. Finished that and installed the foc'sle area. I've been thinking of putting in working torps, but have not decided on that yet. Second project will be a 1/350 Arizona from Tom's Modelworks. Really nice kit also. The directions could use some work, but the kit is beautiful. Third project is painting and weathering a 1/35 C Class British Sub - also RC. This should keep me out of trouble for a while. And thanks to all those who sent me info on Schnellbootes - pictures and all. Really appreciated and a big, big help in doing the boat. Kevin W. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: German Linoleum Apparently this post never made it to SMML when I sent it several days ago, so I am sending it again: RE the inquiry on the use of linoleum in the Kaiserliche Marine and the Kriegsmarine - unlike IJN practice, linoleum was not stripped as part of readying a ship for combat. Close-up photos of the wrecks of several ships confirm the linoleum was present at the time of their destruction- notably shots of the SMS Koenigsberg at Rufidji River in East Africa, SMS Emden at the Cocos Islands and shots of the Graf Spee at Monte Video. In all cases, the lino seems not to have caught fire. Perhaps the Japanese variety was simply more prone to burning. Lineoleum was used as a weight and cost saving measure, although wood probably provided better traction in wet conditions. If anyone knows more about this, I would be interested to know. The German lino color, incidentally was a chocolate brown, not terra-cotta as shown in a lot of postwar illustrations. Take a look at Gunter Huff's SMS Emden model in the features section of the Warship page; http://www.warship.simplenet.com for an idea. BTW in 1:350th scale, the brass tack down strips can be simulated with a gold ink ballpoint marker now available at well-stocked office supply and art stores. HTH Dave Krakow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Pieter Cornelissen Subject: Re: surveys On the 2 surveys; 1 Place of origin I'm Pieter Cornelissen and I live in Delft, The Netherlands 2 Workbench I'm working on (all in 1/700): -a DASH -a WEM Askold -a project which I must not tell you because of the jury system at the dutch nationals -a Jim Shirley USS Chicago; Nice subject but not a perfect kit; maybe JAG should redo it. -a WSW Petropavlovsk Nice subject and The Perfect Resin Kit except 'no railings' (and the WEM Askold set doesn't have enough) -an Aoshima Takao. Not as bad as I feared -a Skywave Chogei + some subs. Skywave quality. This should keep me busy for the coming two years I think. Pieter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" Subject: Sullivans book OK, before anyone slaps their forehead and starts writing me a punishing e-mail, I admit that I didn't do sufficient research. Obviously the Floating Drydock plans book is the one to get, with specific coverage of The Sullivans. Oops. Sorry about that. I also know GMM's set includes parts for the square bridge. But I still have to get the conversion for the bridge itself (don't I)? Who does that? Thanks again! Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Darren Scannell Subject: SMML convention/Current Project John Frohock wrote: >> As for the convention, how do list members feel about late next summer/early fall? << A reminder about this time next year. The UK Nats are set for the end of Oct, 2000 and I would hate to see our brethren from across the pond in a quandary about the SMML convention being too close time wise. I for one plan to visit the UK for this event and would like to see at least 2 months between the two for cash flow reasons Current projects: 1/700 pitroad Krivak for a client 1/350 BWN Samuel B.Roberts (FFG-7 class) (so far no missing parts : ) 1/96 R/C Samuel B.Roberts - Scale Shipyard hull/fittings, Floating drydock fittings/plans, Futaba radio(if it ever gets here) Cheers, Darren Scannell Ontario, Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: IJN Nagato Hi all Can anyone confirm or deny a rumour I heard that Aoshima have retooled their Nagato kit. Chris Langtree Fosters is a weak Australian beer with practically no taste (like 4X). My suspicion is that the Aussies keep all the good stuff for themselves. OK, at the risk of going OT, my understanding is that Australian beer OS(based on drinking XXXX & Fosters in Europe in 92 & other reports), are watered down something shocking. And I suspect the same thing happens here as well with OS beers. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Diorama subject Hi all I recently came across this signal made to HMS Dorsetshire at the time of Mers-El-Kebir which might make a pretty interesting diorama. The Dorsetshire was shadowing Richelieu and received the following :- "If Richelieu sails and proceeds north she is to be shadowed. If she is about to proceed towards the West Indies you are to make every endeavour to destroy her by torpedo attack and if this fails by ramming repeat ramming." It never happened but what a subject. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Max Loosli Subject: On the workbench I'd never have admitted it before but I do non-ship stuff as well .......... So, on-going we have: * 1:350 HMS Lion, scratchbuild (?) (re-engineered from a 1:250 card kit), thinking of starting over ! * 1:700 HMS Dreadnought, resin, bloody awful, but I was told ... (Hiryu ?) * 1:700 Kongo (Tamiya) possible conversion to HMS Tiger * Warhammer 40K Bane Blade scratchbuilt fantasy battle tank (refurb. for IPMS UK Nats.) * 1:12 Honda CB900F (Tamiya), conversion to single sided swingarm, different front end, to match my real one * 1:144 Saturn 1B (Airfix), I've been 'doing' this one for 15 years ...... This is without the three to four projects I come up with each night on the train home, whilst reading the aircraft, ship, military, science fiction and other magazines I am addicted to. Let alone the card models I keep thinking I should make .... 1:250 Richelieu, Hood, Takao, California, Warspite ........ Sorry, I'm going to go and lie down (and probably come up with some more). Regards, Max "You shouldn't have joined if you can't take a joke!" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Kurt Van Dahm Subject: Badger paints steven lau wrote: >> By the way I was interested in the recent discussion on the new paint series by Badger which included navy colors. Anyone with recent experience with this line of paint and does anyone have a source for the stuff here in the States << Steve: Tony Suess at Modelers Boatyard stocks the Badger Modelflex paints. I can help you with any questions you might have regarding theuse of the paints as I developed the colors for Badger. Contact me off list so we keep the commercialism to a minimum on list. Kurt Van Dahm Westmont, IL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: SMML convention I think the idea of an SMML convention could be a real hoot. I would also like to see a Ship Modelers Society someday where we can see nothing but a huge room full of ship models. Man that would be great. Maybe we can start it at the SMML convention. I'll do my best to make it if it comes about. What are the chances of bringing the Salem up the Mississippi to the port of Catoosa in Oklahoma? I didn't think so. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "James Kloek" Subject: Current Projects I like this thread, but am I the only one working on one project at a time? I am just finishing a Waveline Nagato (yes, I did more than just look at it and drool). Before that it was a WEM HMS Kelly. Next on the list will be either the Italeri Hood, or the Samek Alaska. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: Vent hood >> I recently moved and have a place to establish a modeling shop, and do it correctly. I have a vent hood from a cooking stove and wondered if this was safe. Since the hood uses a motor with brushes I am concerned about possible ignition of paint or thinner fumes from the sparks. Is this a potential problem or not? << Could be if you are doing a lot of spraying with a highly flammable solvent like a lacquer. I'd replace the motor with a totally enclosed explosion proof type if it is inside the hood. Another alternative is a belt driven fan with the motor removed from the area containing solvent fumes. Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Doremus, Mark" Subject: On the Bench & the Workshop Hi, my name is Mark and I am a recovering model airplane builder. On the bench right now, I have Revell's Lionfish (Drum) I'm trying to build as Gato in an early war fit (Nautilus conversion). I've also got Skywave's Fletcher (with GMM photoetch), I started it for the 1999 SMML effort at the Nationals, at this rate I'll have it ready by 2000. I also have an AMT 1/48 B-26B nearing completion, OK, so I'm backsliding. The October '99 FSM has a new product review for a paint booth. It refers back to an article they did in March of '92 about paint booths. They recommend 100-200 Cubic Feet per Minute as the correct value for an UN-ducted fan, higher if there was any duct work leading outside. In the earlier article they also recommended squirrel cage type fans since this kept the arcs at the brushes away from potentially combustible fumes, they really did not recommend bathroom type fans. I may be able to find the article if you want a copy. Mark Doremus >> Humor in Uniform: Tonight's 'JAG' occurred onboard a CV, the Coral Sea (CV-43) based on everyone's ballcap, then they pan across the deck to the island proudly displaying the number 65. Do they think we're all numerically impaired? << -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Savannah and Warspite Would not the Savannah have been painted in something other than Ms 22 at the beginning of hostilities, if only because that scheme did not come into existence until well into 1942? Her camouflage would have been in part determined by her station, for example, where was she in December 1941, and where was she in say April 1942? When and where did she have her first refit? If she was in the Atlantic in the first months of the war, then probably Ms12R, but if the Pacific then maybe Ms1 or possibly Ms11. Here is a great opportunity for someone to do a little bit of real research. On the question of the colour of the Warspite's decks, I again went over the actual print that was used in the Raven and Roberts book, I also looked at several other prints of the ship taken in the war at various times, and as carefully as I could examined the tones on the many horizontal surfaces. I have to stick by my original belief that the wood decks were left the natural colour. I repeat that the actual large size print (14"x10") was printed noticably DARKER in the book than the print itself. It was NOT common practice to paint the wood areas. Therefore one needs in this case something more than just this one dark printed photo from a book. If someone, somewhere who was on-board, or who visited, makes a definitive statement that the decks were in fact painted during this time frame then that would have some meaning, but until then ------. There are always surprises of course, and one example is that of the Cruiser Sheffield, which in late 1942 was observed by a visiting junior officer (one who took a great interest in warship camouflage and colours) to have had the quarterdeck wood decking removed and replaced by semtex of a light tan colour. Then there is the case of the carrier Indomitable, which in the last year of the war was painted in USN colours. There is NO offical documentation for this, but I have a first person account as to HOW and WHY and WHEN. What is most interesting is that only part of the ship was in US colours. Another item of interest is that the flight deck markings were a mixture of yellow and white, depending upon the function. Information is always coming to light; just recently I was informed that the destroyer Legion was painted in Mountbatten Pink; a possibility, but this particular case is where one needs an independent confirmation and until then it must go into the pending tray, and it may stay there forever. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: kenny_II Subject: Projects. etc For my two cents... The thread about the National archives is very timely, I'm glad to get some suggestions, as I'm planning my own trip in the near future. I may wait and combine it with the visit to the proposed SMML convention. When you're coming in from Texas (I'm really a Yankee, but they're paying me a lot to stay here and pretend ;-p ) Washington, etc. is right around the corner. I would also like a Fall time frame, I haven't seen the low side of 80 degrees F in a year. My current project is also an 'accurized' Revell 1/429 Arizona. I have the GMM photo etch set (which I like) because I'm still working on being a better scratch builder. I decided to replace the shuttered broadside guns and open up the main deck, using 5" guns scrounged from other kits I had lying about. This really improves the look for me, I like it a lot. I bought the Battleship Arizona book, and at least half the photos of her show the guns uncovered and visible. I only found three or four pictures with the storm shutters in place, and the rest of the pictures showing the broadside guns were with the canvas curtains lashed over them. We'll see how it looks when I'm done. I'm trying not to be a typical modeler and have three to five kits going at once. With my luck, my Missouri would end up with broadside guns. I just did my first a/c kit, an Otaki 1/48 Hellcat. I want to do one of each of the WWII carrier planes like this, it breaks up the detail work and should help me really get the 1/350 versions right when I break down and drop $500+ for the 1/350 CV6 resin kit. Tim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Allan Plumb Subject: Re: Carrier Models >> The Heller kit for the CHARLES DE GAULLE [...] Does anyone know where the kit can be purchased in the U.S.A.? << The Naval Base claims to have it, but as of a few days ago the check I sent two weeks ago had not cleared. So far, still waiting. Dunno. >> Glad to see that the SMML ship will be steaming as before, with the same steady hand at the helm (and the same first mate ready to fill in expertly if needed). << Concur. Allan Plumb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Brian Selzler Subject: Michael Ainsworth Hello John, Yes indeed, Mr. Ainsworth (a nom de plume} is certainly still with us here in dear old Canada. He is even a subscriber to SMML. I'll leave it up to him to contact you if he wishes. regards, Brian -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: Puckhead93@aol.com Subject: Heller Bismarck Hey everybody, yes I was the one who wrote awhile ago about the Heller Bismarck model 1-400 scale. I did write Heller to get another set of instructions and I'm guessing i should get a reply on email here tomorrow. But I am growing impatient and dont want to wait any longer. I dont even have the deck glued down cause I dont have the anchor wells identified cause i dont have the instructions. What I'd like is if somebody could tell me what parts the aa gus are that go on the bridge area and towards the stern by turret C. And the anchor wells, the valve for each of the side propellers, the radar screens for the gun directors found on top of the admirals bridge. And a question just popped into my head, did Heller make a catapult for the section between the funnel and the aircraft hanger? I havent seen anything but I could be wrong. Any info that is you have available I would love to have, I want this model to be finished so i can set it up and have it look pretty decent The completeion of the Bismarck is utmost for me right now, any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Josh Mayne -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: "larsenal" Subject: Charles de Gaulle Just a quick note about the extention of the angled deck of the CDG. A new portion of about 3 meters is considered but not yet decided. The problem is that under extreme conditions ( night, rain, a bit too long landing due to N°5 wire being catched, etc...) the Hawkeye may not have enough room to be repositioned after landing. At the present time it's only a possible modification, and as I said in a precedent posting the ship is under development with I think many minor changes to appear in the near future. Best regards, Jacques Druel L'Arsenal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: Mike Connelley Subject: Tamiya Bismarck Howdy Y'all: I'm probably opening a huge can of worms here, given the energy of the recent debate over Bismarck turret tops. Anyway, I recently picked up the Tamiya 1/350 Bismarck (it was $40 so my self control collapsed). 1) What are the good points and bad points about this kit? What's the short list of things wrong with the kit and how much does photoetch help out? Are there general outline problems (like with the Yamato's overly wide bow) which will require major surgery? I'm sure many can nit pick until the cows come home. I myself have nit picked a two page list of things to fix on the Tamiya 1/350 Yamato, not including what photoetch covers. 2) How does this kit compare with the Academy kit (as if it matters...I already have this kit but just thought I'd ask). 3) What's a good reference? I've been spoiled by having the Anatomy of the Ship book on the Yamato over the years. Is there a comparable volume for the Bismarck? By the way, what did you all determine was the color of the turret tops? The kit instructions say dark grey, a drawing I've seen says bright yellow. Also, were the gun barrels a darker grey than the rest of the ship? Also, the instructions show one swastika on the bow, a drawing I've seen has one on the bow and another on the stern, and yet another has none. What's the deal with that? As you can tell, I'm pretty new to this Bismarck stuff. Cheers Mike Connelley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: "Morley, James (London)" Subject: Backdating Enterprise Chung Lam has mentioned the Trumpeter kit of the Enterprise.... the WHAT????? I've never heard of it before - does it still exist? If it includes the old island (however bad) it starts to get interesting. I'm not massively confident about building such a complicated structure entirely from scratch - also I haven't found the sort of reference I would need to do it in that scale (hence Plan B to scale up from the Revell kit). Any help/advice would be much appreciated. My current projects are an almost complete (still!!) USS Iowa 1/350 - Toms Missouri conversion with Classic Warships AA fit, GMM photoetch, WEM Kingfishers, and a Tamiya 1/700 Hood w/ WEM photoetch. James Morley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: "Mark L. Shannon" Subject: The Perfect Workshop, Sea and Deck Blues & Current Building Projects "Ralph E. Batykefer, Jr." asked about a stove hood fan for a paint hood. While I am not an expert, in the chemical lab we are allowed to have non-explosion proof motors in a fume hood because there is no opportunity for ignitable vapors to collect in stagnant air flow areas. With no build-up of the vapors, there is no explosion hazard. Non-explosion proof motors can also be rendered explosion proof by actively directing air through the motor housing. I don't think there is going to be much of a risk if the fan motor is well swept by the vent flow, though it would be better if the motor was outside the fume area, as in most squirrel-cage blowers. On Sea Blue, I cannot give you mixes for Polly Scale/Polly S, but I have published mixes I got from Del Palmieri's articles for Humbrols. Sea Blue 5-S appears to have been a color with several variations in the ratio of blue to grey to purple tone as applied in it's short term of use. It was intended to have a reflectance of 11, versus the later Navy Blue 5-N of 9 and the Ocean Gray 5-O of 18% -- because of the log nature of the paint mixing effects, it is about 50-50 to 60-40 of 5-N and 5-O. Decks were painted, not stained, on non-aircraft carriers. The cynic suggests that the reason was the captains and admirals wanted to be sure they got their clean-scrubbed decks back as soon as the current upset of the proper way of doing things was over. The instructions call for mixing sand in the paint and spreading sand over the wet paint in applying it to decks, but there are still uncounted casualties from slipping or going overboard from wet, painted decks. Current projects -- On topic, a gift build of a 1/700 Liberty Ship in post-war fit for my father (the Merchant Marine Radio Officer). Off topic, a gift build of a 1/144 B-47B for my father-in-law (the B-29 and B-47 pilot). and non-gift builds of Eduard Albatri (I haven't decided which to do first, the D.III or the D.V) Mark L. Shannon The early bird gets the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: CW USS TEXAS Book Those of you who have it, take a close look at the next-to-last photo, on p.53. Look at the AA gun tub just abaft the number 2 main battery turret (that's B turret for you non-colonials) and note the gun mount residing there. It wasn't what she was carrying at the end of the war! ;^) John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: Dimitrios Apostolopoulos Subject: US National Archives II, Modified Didos, Edinburgh Folks, Thank you all for the information regarding photo research at the US National Archives II and the US Naval Institute. I will have a lot of fun tomorrow and Friday. Believing or not, my wife will help me with the search. On two other matters: - In his Dido Ensign book Alan Raven indicates that in 1943-44 the cruisers of the Bellona Class (Black Prince, Bellona, Diadem, Royalist, and Spartan) wore three-color schemes which were comprised of the same paint colors. I have looked at a large number of pictures and it appears that the colors used were G10, B30, and G45. Does anybody have any solid information on this? - A week ago there was some discussion about Edinburgh's 1942 disruptive camouflage. I have looked at two poor photos (one in the "Last Call for the Edinburgh" and the other in the A&A Press Warship Illustrated on US battleships) and it appears that there are more than 3 colors in her scheme. Could it be that, like her sister Belfast, she wore a 507A-507C-B5-B6 scheme? Just a thought... Dimi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: "Jeff Herne" Subject: Current projects.... My current project list includes: ISW HMS Sheffield 1/350 75% complete Tom's Modelworks USS Yorktown II 1/350 80% complete Tom's Modelworks USS Arizona for a client 50% complete Tamiya Bismarck for a client 50% complete Scratchbuilt USS Montana (hull & deck done)30% complete USS Arleigh Burke 1/700 Skywave 75% complete Tamiya Fletcher, late war, w/Tom's square bridge conversion kit. 50% complete... These are all kits that are taking up space on my workbench, an 8 x 2 foot long attic workshop. I think finding the things I've lost takes up more time than building...like instructions... This doesn't include the Pearl Harbor dio, which is currently on the "Summer Back-burner" until work settles down... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Bob Pearson" Subject: September Internet Modeler Greetings all, Well, we have hit the one year mark (2 years if you count our precursor mag AW-N), and this time around we start on a series of small combatants with Richard Eaton's Airfix Schnellboote being first up. There are also book/magazine reviews from Shane Jenkins and myself and an inbox comparison between the original issue Tamiya Musashi and the new one - suffice it to say the new one rocks !!! And the Mistress has a little something as well :-) Regards, Bob Pearson Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume