Subject SMML02/09/99VOL656 Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 00:42:04 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Current project 2: Re: SMML Convention 3: Re: USS SAVANNAH 4: Current Projects 5: Re: Current Project(s) 6: Current Project 7: Hobby shops in Caracas, Venezuela 8: Re: Fletcher square bridge conversion 9: Aoshima's NEW IJN Nagato and Mutsu 10: HMS Warspite 11: Bismarck parts 12: USS The Sullivans 13: Re: SMML Convention 14: Academy Titanic 1:350 15: Re: Linoleum colours. 16: On the workbench & SMML convention 17: Tamiya Fletcher 18: Gravity boat davits 19: SMML convention dates 20: IJN Tone 21: Square Bridge Fletcher 22: SMML Convention 23: USS The Sullivans conversion 24: Sullivans and Takao 25: Re: Sea Blue 26: Re: IJN Linoleum (was German Linoleum) 27: AJ Press HMS Nelson/Rodney 28: HMCS Haida 29: Type 271 radar used in Flower class 30: Re: Samek Alaska 31: Backdating Enterprise/Chinese model companies 32: Re: Current Projects 33: Reply to Steve Lau 34: Bath Tubs on US Navy Ships 35: Foster's & Current projects 36: SMML Covention & UK Nationals 37: Current projects -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: DirectX help -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Les Dorr Jr." Subject: Current project Just my $.02: Current project is the 1/547 USS Franklin D. Roosevelt, the old Revell kit. Made numerous corrections, added PE from the *excellent* GMM Midway/Forrestal/Essex set. About 80% complete, just awaiting a revival of interest.... :-} Les "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: SMML Convention Rusty White wrote: >> I think the idea of an SMML convention could be a real hoot. I would also like to see a Ship Modelers Society someday where we can see nothing but a huge room full of ship models. Man that would be great.Maybe we can start it at the SMML convention << That's not beyond imagination. The SubCommittee began life as (and continues as) a SIG of IPMS/USA. They now have regional meets, and an annual regatta with tons of entries--and that's only subs! If they can achieve that with only one type of ship, think what potential SMML has! John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Ship Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: USS SAVANNAH WRPRESS wrote: >> Would not the Savannah have been painted in something other than Ms 22 at the beginning of hostilities, if only because that scheme did not come into existence until well into 1942? Her camouflage would have been in part determined by her station, for example, where was she in December 1941, and where was she in say April 1942? When and where did she have her first refit? If she was in the Atlantic in the first months of the war, then probably Ms12R, but if the Pacific then maybe Ms1 or possibly Ms11. << Wherever she was, and whatever Measure she was wearing, don't forget that Admiral Ernie "Jesus" King personally and irectly ordered discontinuance of the use of Sea Blue (5-S) by the Atlantic Fleet in October 1941; the Pacific Fleet followed suit in December. No one bucked "Jesus" King! So repaints after those dates would have substituted Navy Blue (5-N), even before the formal issuance of the new Measures using that color in the June 1942 revision to Ships 2. So, she might have been in Ms.12R, or Ms.11, but using 5-N in place of 5-S. If in Ms.1, of course, she'd have been in 5-D. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Sean D. Hert" Subject: Current Projects Hey All- In my workshop, we currently have; 1/144 IJN Mogmai (1939) 1/144 IJN Mikuma (1939) 1/144 DKM Adm. Scheer 1/144 DKM Blucher (Hipper Class) 1/144 DKM Togo 1/144 USSRS Molotov 1/144 Type 36a(mob) [yet unnamed] 1/144 FNS Mogador 1/700 IJN Kumano 1/700 HMS Rodney Plus assorted radio gear, CO2 gear and the manufacture of air cannon for the R/C combat ships. So, not much really.... Sean D. Hert Webmeister, MBG Site: http://www.netwalk.com/~popev/bg/ Ringmaster, Big Gun R/C Warship Combat Ring "History doesn't always repeat itself... sometimes it just screams 'Why don't you listen when I'm talking to you?' and lets fly with a club." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Current Project(s) Hello, Well, when I have the time, I have been working on a 1/96 John Paul Jones (DDG-53) for radio control. This has been for the last few years, a not uncommon tale of woe in the large scale community. I am just finishing up a Blue Water Navy Thresher/Permit, a very nice little kit. A 1/100 scale Scharnhorst hull sits on my shelf waiting for the JPJ to get done. Next up in the small model category is one of Viking Models' Tomahawk kits. I always wondered why more of the resin casters didn't do specific weapons, like that, or the recent Phalanx kit. I'll be a lot of folks would like a nice, desk model size Harpoon, Talos, Standard Missile, ADCAP or other weapon. I know that when the manufacturer's models come up on eBay they go or a high premium. Kurt Greiner SeaPhoto Maritime Photography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Tom Dean Subject: Current Project Hi Gang: My current project is a 1/96 scratch built model of a HALIFAX CLASS FRIGATE. Not sure which one it will be yet. It has been in "dry dock" for a few months because of major surgery to the "prime contractor" Construction will get underway in a few weeks time. As usual, I will make 90% or more of the model using styrene plastic. While on the subject, could any of you help me with a paint (name or number) that is good for the very light grey used by the Canadian Navy? I have always had to mix it in the past when making one of the post war ships and wish to avoid that this time around if possible. My last 2 or 3 models were WWII with camo schemes so it wasn't a problem. I know a number of new paint lines have come out in that time span, so if any one could help it would be much appreciated. Tom Dean Hamilton, Ontario Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: roberto paredes Subject: Hobby shops in Caracas, Venezuela Hi, I'm going to Caracas, Anybody know any hobby shop there? Thanks in advance, Roberto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Fletcher square bridge conversion I believe Toms Modelworks produces a square bridge conversion for the Tamiya kit. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://warship.simplenet.com/Flagship.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Mau Cat Subject: Aoshima's NEW IJN Nagato and Mutsu The new Aoshima Nagato and Mutsu are (in a word) "gorgeous". They *are* new toolings and the quality of the kit parts give you feel that you're looking at one of the best 1/700 scale Tamiya and/or Skywave kits. I even found ultrafine planking detail molded into the larger ships' boats and the pagoda bridge comes with the four visible struts of the hexagonal mast structure buried within it. Both kits appear to be identical down to the assembly diagrams in the instruction sheets. They seem to build up to the early to mid WWII versions of the ships (although a few unlisted parts on the sprues could be taken for the type 21 radar, etc. that were fitted onto the Nagato in 1944-45). It shouldn't be too hard update the Nagato to her final fit. Comparing the instruction sheet and parts for the Aoshima Nagato kit to the 1/700 scale Hi-Mold Nagato resin kit is interesting. Many of the parts and assembly steps are amazingly similar (aside from some some differences). But you can't shake the impression that the Aoshima kit (at about $22.00 US) is the injection-molded near-twin of the over $120.00 Hi-Mold kit (your only option for a highly detailed Nagato kit up to now). The level of detail on the Aoshima kit parts were a very pleasant surprise. If Aoshima were to retool all of its major 1/700 Waterline offerings to the same quality as their new Nagato and Mutsu kits, they'd rival Tamiya as the leading producer of high-quality waterline kits. You can recognize the new kits by their numbers. The new Aoshima Nagato is kit number 115 and Mutsu is kit number 116. The older, less detailed, versions of these kits have different numbers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: HMS Warspite Hi WRPress I think we part company here, the picture is an indication that Warspite may well have had her deck painted. What this list has already shown is that Warspite received her camouflage earlier than was originally thought and that there is some confusion over where some of her AA went. Given these discrepencies I would hesitate before making an blanket assertion that her deck followed the pattern prescribed for other ships. I too have seen the original and it still indicates painting/staining unlike the ship in the background. Until we can discover actual written evidence one way or the other (or photos which show the deck more clearly!!) we will have suspend debate. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: KDur597268@aol.com Subject: Bismarck parts >> What I'd like is if somebody could tell me what parts the aa guns are that go on the bridge area and towards the stern by turret C. << If I understand you correctly these are subassembly No.4, consisting of parts 127 and 135 each. >> And the anchor wells << Not sure what you mean here, on mine the deck has a molded in channel which mates to the notvh in the hull. No separate "well." >> the valve for each of the side propellers, << The propellor assembly consist of: part 20/19 - the hull fairing; part 45 - the shaft; parts 87/88 - the shaft support, and the props. Not sure what you mean by "valve." >> the radar screens for the gun directors found on top of the admirals bridge. << Not entirely certain on this one, but if the Flag bridge is the lower, more forward one, that director consists of parts 57, 58, and 79. If it is the upper one, then parts 94, 95 and 79. That is if you're not using photoetch for part 79. Hope I got this right! These instructions leave something to be desired. Ken Durling -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: KDur597268@aol.com Subject: USS The Sullivans Michael Satin wrote: >> To that end, wasn't USS The Sullivans a Fletcher? They were from Iowa! If it was, what would it take to do the conversion, does anyone make such a conversion? Can anyone recommend a good reference to help me do it? << Michael - indeed she was a Fletcher, a square-bridge Fletcher, and yes someone makes a conversion - is it Tom's Modelworks I think? - someone will know. As for references, run, don't walk, and get the Floating Drydock Fletcher Plan Book. The Sullivans is one of two featured ships in that magnificent reference, the other being the name-ship. Ken Durling -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Charles Stephanian Subject: Re: SMML Convention Any chance of picking a spot somewhere in mid-country? As a west coast modeler (I'm sure there must be a few others!) a trip to the midwest is a lot more possible, i.e. cost, than going to the east coast. Of course, the best spot would be the S.F. Bay Area...lots to offer. Chas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: Academy Titanic 1:350 Hi I recently saw an advertisement in FSM magazine for an "improved" Titanic kit in 1:350 from Academy. Naturally its more expensive, but I was wondering what the other differences might be. In particular is the hull plating more to scale? IMHO the original kit's hull plating, (wobbly, and probably about 10 scale inches thick) is horrendous. I would buy the "improved" kit if the hull plating looked closer to scale. Also, concerning the Titanic, are any aftermarket companies selling, or planning to sell, a set of photo-etched window frames? The "armored" window frames on the kit also look poor, especially if interior lighting is added. GMM has a neat set of gravity davits out now. (Surely, the windows are next, right Loren?? ) Dave Krakow P.S. Very glad SMML is still going strong. Keep up the good work. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "J. London" Subject: Re: Linoleum colours. There seems to be some confusion as to the colour of the linoleum on the decks of ships so fitted. I have always understood that on British and Japanese ships it was a milk-chocolate brown and on German ships a terra-cotta red. The latter certainly seems to be true for French ships. Deck colours are always a puzzle as in many cases people who served on the ships themselves often cannot recall even though they must have swabbed them numerous times. When the decks are bare steel the colours seem to be, in many cases, at the whim of the Captain or dictated by camouflage schemes. I can recall in the UK being able to buy "Battleship Linoleum" for domestic use and it was/is certainly a very durable product. This was the chocolate colour referred to above. Most colour reproductions of German ships such as "Warship Profiles" et al show the red colour but the same publication's EMDEN shows her with planked decks throughout. It would be interesting to hear other views on this subject. Mike London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: Mark McKellar Subject: On the workbench & SMML convention On my workbench is the Tamyia Enterprise. She's been there since last October and will prob take another 4 months to complete...at this rate you could almost do a complete refueling in the time it's taking me to build a kit! And yes, I tend to do them one at a time so James, you're not the only one who builds like that. SMML convention: Would it make sense to run a little survey on the timing of this little tea party (sorry being from Boston, I could not resist)? Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Ed Grune Subject: Tamiya Fletcher >> To that end, wasn't USS The Sullivans a Fletcher? They were from Iowa! If it was, what would it take to do the conversion, does anyone make such a conversion? Can anyone recommend a good reference to help me do it? << Yes indeedie -- The Sullivans is a Fletcher, however its a square-bridge - vice the round bridge USS Fletcher modeled by Tamiya. Your best reference would be the Anatomy -- The Sullivans. Ed Mansfield, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: Douglas Bauer Subject: Gravity boat davits I'm looking for rigging info on the WW2 type gravity davits... As an ex-Boatswain's Mate I remember the Welin davits aboard ship, but they had a strongback which connected the two davit arms and much of the cabling ran inside of it. As for the wartime-type, I'm not too sure how they operated. I saw some great photos of a Victory ship in Richmond on the Warship website, but the davits had been partially dismantled. Anybody got any photos or ideas? Thanks, Doug Bauer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: Ed Grune Subject: SMML convention dates >> As for the convention, how do list members feel about late next summer/early fall? << >> A reminder about this time next year. The UK Nats are set for the end of Oct, 2000 and I would hate to see our brethren from across the pond in a quandary about the SMML convention being too close time wise. I for one plan to visit the UK for this event and would like to see at least 2 months between the two for cash flow reasons. << Let me throw another spanner into the works! The IPMS USA Nats are the end of July. Plus one month makes it the end of August/first of September (i.e. the Labor Day timeframe). That would be a good time -- but cash flow could be tight. Two months after the Nats puts it to the end of September/first of October. Now we're running into the UK Nats. As I see it -- we're looking at Memorial Day (- 2 months from IPMS/USA) or Christmas (+2 months from IPMS/UK). What's you're pleasure? Ed Mansfield, Republic of Texas 30 miles from the IPMS Y2K site -- we're making plans for all the SMMLies to gather there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Chris.Evenden@agso.gov.au Subject: IJN Tone Hi people, Someone told me awhile back that there is (was?) a model of the Tone available in, I think, 1/400. Can anyone confirm this? If it's true, can someone provide me with details of manufacturer, availability etc. Thanks, Chris Evenden -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Chris.Evenden@agso.gov.au Subject: Square Bridge Fletcher Michael, Tom's Modelworks do a great resin and white metal conversion for a square bridge Fletcher. You can buy it with or without a set of photoetch for the ship. This will be my first serious 1/350 ship model also (if my Alaska SSBN doesn't get there first)! All I need now is some of those walkway markings and I'll be set. While talking of the Tamiya Fletcher, should I leave the slightly raised panel lines on the hull on or sand them off? My inclination is to remove them. Chris Evenden -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Marc Flake Subject: SMML Convention SMMLers: I was kinda looking forward to meeting quite a few of you down here for the Y2K IPMS(US) Nationals. If ya'll are going to be saving up for a trip to Mass. in the fall, will you be able to afford to come visit us in the summer? Marc Flake -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: Duane Fowler Subject: USS The Sullivans conversion Hello Michael, >> To that end, wasn't USS The Sullivans a Fletcher? They were from Iowa! If it was, what would it take to do the conversion, does anyone make such a conversion? << Yes, the USS The Sullivans was a Fletcher. However, unlike the Tamiya USS Fletcher kit, it was a square bridge style Fletcher. Toms Modelworks offers a square bridge conversion set for the model that includes the bridge and the forward deckhouse roof with the 40mm tubs. However, it does not include the waist 40s or the reshaped 40mm position between the third and forth turrets. Those will have to be scratch built. I think you will also have to add the search light platform on the second funnel. The depth charge racks are in the correct position (they are too far apart for the actual USS Fletcher) but you will need to add the reload racks between them. There was also an AA position between and just forward of the racks. There are several excelent books on the subject. Probably the best is the Fletcher Class Planbook from the Floating Drydock. After that is the book "Anatomy of the Ship: The Sulivans" by All Ross (USNIP) and currently available from Barwon Booksellers for $13 (an VERY good price) and Cromwell Books for $35 (still not a bad price). There is also a softcover book that I can't remember the title for and a few other general resources. Jeff Herne's book on Fletcher, Sumner, and Gearing destroyers is pretty good although it doesn't get too specific. Best regards, Duane Fowler (Shameless plug: If you get the square bridge conversion from Toms Modelworks, you can get the Anti-skid Walkway decal sheet which includes the walkways, hull numbers, and flags at the same time) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: "James Kloek" Subject: Sullivans and Takao For those of you interested in The Sullivans, she is alive and well in Buffalo, New York. She is part of a museum/park (so is the Little Rock). You might be able to track down some reference material there. Pieter, about the Aoshima Takao you are working on.....I just finished reworking one too, contact me off line if you want to exchange ideas. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: Sea Blue Steven: Sorry, wrong color. BLUE and SAN FRANCISCO would have been in Ms.21 at Guadalcanal. As we've pointed out elsewhere, ADM Ernie "Jesus" King himself ordered the discontinuance of the use of Sea Blue (5-S) by the Atlantic Fleet in October 1941, when he was CINCLANTFLT; the Pacific Fleet officially discontinued its use in December 1941. 5-S was replaced by Navy Blue (5-N) even in ships carrying what was supposed to be Ms.11 or Ms.12. This would have been particularly true of destroyers transitioning from the Atlantic Fleet, 'cause no one risked the wrath of Ernie King. Then, the June 1942 revision to Ships 2 replaced Ms.11 with Ms.21, and Ms.12 with Ms.22. By the time of Guadalcanal, most anything wearing blue was wearing 5-N. Paint 'em darker. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: IJN Linoleum (was German Linoleum) It appears that there is a great deal of misconception regarding IJN linoleum removal. Wholesale removal of linoleum from weather decks was not an issue. Removal of linoleum--and other flammable material--from belowdecks was the real issue. There are a number of photos taken immediately postwar that show linoleum still in place topside on IJN ships. Skulski notes the same thing in his book on TAKAO--that she lost her linoleum belowdecks but kept it topside. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint (and linoleum and corticene and semtex) Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: Michael Eisenstadt Subject: AJ Press HMS Nelson/Rodney Folks: Just received my AJ Press HMS Nelson/Rodney monograph (no. 14) from Research in Scale, and thought I'd share my impressions with you all. If you are planning to build a model of either ship, this resource is a must -- even if the text is in Polish! Production standards are as high as you'll find in this industry. Photos are crisp and clear, there are a fair number of photos I've never seen published before, and the color plates and 1:400 scale plans are simply beautiful. I've been researching Nelson in '42-43 on and off for several years now, and my tentative conclusion is that this publication will enable me to close the few remaining information gaps in my research (in particular, regarding the configuration of the light AA sponsons on the bridge). I strongly recommend this monograph; at $14 it's a steal. This brings me to two questions: 1) Does anyone out there know whether the 1:400 scale plans of Nelson in '42 and '43 by Jerzy Moscinski that are included with this monograph are based on the actual "as fitted" plans for Nelson during this period, or are they based on "as fitted" plans for Nelson from an earlier period that have been "updated" and modified in accordance with data obtained from photographs of her in '42 and '43? 2) The color plates on the back cover show Nelson in her '42 admiralty disruptive scheme (wearing not only light gray, dark gray, and medium blue, but as in the color plates in the Ensign (or was it Man O'War?) monograph by Raven and Roberts, she is also wearing two colors from the gray-green range! Could this be right? Does anyone know for sure what colors Nelson wore in '42-'43? Well, this should start another thread... Thanks for any help anyone can provide! Best wishes, Mike Eisenstadt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Michael Eisenstadt Subject: HMCS Haida Folks: Well, as long as we're discussing HMCS Haida (we were, weren't we?); the instructions for the 1:700 Ultracast kit show her in a camoflage scheme consisting of light gray, green, and light/mid-blue. Likewise, I have a reproduction of a magnificent painting of HMCS Haida in a night action during WWII by Carl Evers that once graced the cover of U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings, which shows her in the same scheme. Question: Does anyone one know (base on primary sources please), whether these are the correct colors? If so, were standard Royal Navy colors used on Haida? If so, exactly which colors were they? Inquiring minds want to know... and thanks to you all for any help you might provide. Best wishes, Mike Eisenstadt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: ANlegloa@aol.com Subject: Type 271 radar used in Flower class I'm looking for info re type 271 radar used in Flower class corvetttes 1942-43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: kenny_II Subject: Re: Samek Alaska >> Next on the list will be either the Italeri Hood, or the Samek Alaska. << What is a Samek Alaska? Hi Kenny, SAMEK is a resin ship Mfr & the Alaska refers to the USS Alaska, which they do in 1/700 iirc. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: cwlam Subject: Backdating Enterprise/Chinese model companies I think the Trumpeter Enterprise kit is a recent release, and should be available in Asia. I brought mine two months ago in Hong Kong. Of note is Chinese model companies' attempt to deviate from simply copying other companies' models (I have no facts as to whether these are legal or illegal copies). In Taipei, one can buy almost any of the 1/700 waterline series ships, but manufactured by a Chinese company instead of the Japanese company, for a lot less money. Ironicly, I have also seen "knock-offs" of Dragon/Shanghai Dragon models. However, some of these companies have started to do their own products, such as Zhengdefu's excellent 1/260 PLA ships, and AA's 1/350 PLA ships. I think Trumpeter started off by doing copies of Tamiya's ships, but with the Enterprise, deviated by changing just the beehive island. They have also released a series of 1/500 Nimitz class carriers. The quality of the Tamiya copies is very good, but the quality of their own products is similiar to that of early Revell flat bottom boats, not much details. Anyways, I still don't understand why companies in Eastern Europe and China think they can profit by making and selling new injection plastic kits at really low prices while the Western companies can't justify re-issuing old kits. Chung -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32) From: Growlrr@aol.com Subject: Re: Current Projects Geez! How in God's name do you guys build 5 or 6 kits at time! - Since I will die (of old age preferably) well before I get thorugh half I what I have to build (especially if I have to keep fending off my publisher!) I'm rweally interested - By the time I have photos, drawings and direction all spread out, I barely have room for the model.... Current projects include 1) HMS Holderness - the Accurate Image kit, backdated to a Type I Hunt Class (backdate = damn near rebuilding it from main deck up) 2) USS Underwood OHP Frigate - a commission job about 80% done Next projects - 1) Layout of a Fl***r Class Corvette book 2) A 1:1 scale new 4 bedroom center hall colonial (with a dedicated modeling room about 20 x 15! Yippee!)))) - Scratch building is a b**ch! 3) Oh yeah - something about a Cleveland Cruiser book... 4) Maybe a ship model, eventually again, hopefully, perhaps Glenn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Reply to Steve Lau Steve, I seem to have learned that more than likely by August of 1942, all USN camo's using Sea Blue were replaced with Navy Blue, so where my instructions for most of my 1942 kits say to use Sea Blue, they may be incorrect. You may want to find out if the ship saw any yard service after May or June of 1942, and if it did, there is a good chance it was repainted (Ms. 12/Mod.) using Navy Blue. Reason being, Sea Blue faded to an almost neutral gray in two to three weeks! Thanks, Steve Wiper - Classic Warships -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34) From: RCClem@aol.com Subject: Bath Tubs on US Navy Ships I noticed a string about bath tubs on US Navy warships. The USS Olympia, now a museum ship in Philadelphia, has a very ordinary looking bath tub for the Captain and Admiral. The bathroom door has a large window in it, for museum display purposes. I'm sure the Admiral's bathroom door did NOT have a window in it while the Olympia was in commission! I can imagine the crew gawking while ole Commodore Dewey was scrubbing up and rehearsing tactics for the Battle of Manila! Roger Clemens Hinsdale, Illinois -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 35) From: "Martin Short" Subject: Foster's & Current projects Sorry Shane, but couldn't resist this shot, wot after the Rugby an' all..., but glad to see that you are still with us.. Steve, XXXX is Austalian for beer, coz they carnt spell. Fosters is a dinkum aussy brand and passable if nothing else is on offer, but give me vitamin B any day. Kiwi beers are better....... As for current projects: Airfix Warspite with WEM goodies, in 2nd battle of Narvik fit for IPMS Auckland 39/40 competition in two weeks...if I finish. Airfix KGV in original 1940 splinter cameoflage scheme...also fwas or above competition, but only just started! I'm saving my WEM 700 Warspite until this ham-fisted clot can get to grips with WEM photo etch...it is so fine and delicate, and I'm not!! plus an XJR-9 (love jags), TR2, and sundry wingy things... cheers, Martin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 36) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: SMML Covention & UK Nationals Arrange for the SMML year 2000 gathering to be in May. The date falls just outside of high season with lower travel and hotel rates, and the weather will not be too hot. It also will not interfere with people going to the US Nationals in July and the UK Nationals in the fall. Would ask that WEM tell us what the arrangements are (if possible) for the UK Nationals for the year 2000. If indeed this show is much bigger than the one in the US, then the more advance notice the better as it will allow more people to make travel plans. Personally I would like the UK event to be in central London, this will allow me to stay with my cousin and his wife free of charge and sod everybody else. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 37) From: The Codes Subject: Current projects hello list, I'm still plugging away at hellers 1/100 scale HMS Victory...Ive cut her to the waterline, heeled her slightly to port as she will be displayed with sails traveling downwind..added middle gun deck entry ports as per her 1805 fit,,added chains and there brackets out of copper wire and brass sheet to her channels..Im working on the first gun deck now rigging block and tackle to her long 12lbs that will be viewable from the main deck ..I will be adding several hundred 1/96 scale figure throughout,,,I will use the kit mast to the fighting tops. reinforcing these with metal tubing . From the tops up I will turn my own replacements out of basswood.The bowspit will also be out of basswood.Im still looking for thin enough material to use for the sails...silk or a tight linen come to mind,,,thats a ways off.. Needless to say this is a multi year project. i work on her for a month or two steady, then set her aside for a few weeks and work on other projects..The Revell SMS Emden comes to mind, what a sweet little kit..Id like to do her cut to waterline at anchor with all her sun tarps up and boats on the booms..this would be pre-war. Looking forward to the release of SMS Konig.. regards to all, Bill Code -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Shane Subject: DirectX help Hi gang, I'm trying to install one of my first windoze 95 games & seem to have a directX conflict. If anyone can help out a windoze games novice, give me a bell at: mailto:sljenkins@tac.com.au And to think, I never had this much hassles getting a game to run under Dos ;-)) Regards, Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume