Subject: SMML25/11/99VOL740 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:04:09 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Wartime Career 2: Re: Rocky Mountain Shipyards Sub Plans 3: PEARL HARBOR BATTLELINE COLORS 4: USS Forrestal HELP 5: USS Iowa 6: Re: Rocky Mountain Shipyards Sub Plans (Question) 7: Re: Internet Hobby Shops 8: Re: Ms 1 9: Re: Japanese pronunciation 10: Richelieu book 11: Japanese Torpedo rails 12: Re: MS 1......... THE TRUTH 13: Fujimi 1/700 Kitty Hawk CV 14: Re: Paint, Pearl Harbor, Iowa and thanks 15: Richelieu book 16: Re: Yamato's last mission 17: Vestal 18: Re: Graf Spee...not a name, a place 19: Oh no, not more judging..... 20: Vickers 40mm gun 21: Spruance class forward air intake housing 22: Re: 1/350 Cleveland CL 23: HMS BARHAM 24: Re: Get Well Soon ! 25: Re: Rusty on stanchions? 26: Re: Pearl Harbor Colors 27: Re: Pearl Harbor Colors 28: Re: Pearl Harbor Colors 29: New LCI Model 30: CVN Charles DeGaulle 31: Re: MS 1 32: Electric Sander for my Plastic ship model 33: White Metal parts 34: Re: Japanese pronunciation 35: New Subscriber 36: New subscriber -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: International Maritime Modeling November 1999 Update 2: HMS Hood -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "John Rule" Subject: Wartime Career Thank you Shane for extinguishing the latest fire. Last weekend I spent operating a model railway layout at an exhibition. I know its not ships but I bet there aren't many of us who don't have multiple interests. A friend who served in the Royal during WWII was also at the exhibition so I took the opportunity to jot down some notes about his career. He enlisted as a boy July 17, 1938 and did his training at HMS Ganges (shore base) near Harwich in England. His first posting was to HMS Auckland an Egret Class sloop. The ship was initially based at Rosyth in Scotland but later transferred to the Mediterranean. The ship was painted grey, he believes probably AP 507C and the decks were wood. After war was declared the decks were painted green. I questioned this but he was quite emphatic. In August 1940 he transferred to the battleship HMS Malaya at Alexandria. He believes the ship was painted in AP 507C and he doesn't remember her in camouflage. Decks were wood painted. While still operating in the Mediterranean the decks were painted dark grey. After she was torpedoed in the Atlantic March 1941 she put into Trinidad to effect temporary repairs. Subsequently she sailed to New York for permanent repairs and refit. During the trip the Captain ordered that the wood decks be scraped and holystoned. This was done to present a less warlike look as the US was still not in the war. (interesting) He completed his service aboard after her return from the US. The next posting was to HMS Wolverine, a modified W Class short range escort. He served on the ship in the Atlantic and the Med. He believes the ship was in light grey but from his vague description it may have been repainted in an Admiralty Disruptive scheme. He completed this posting in late 1942. Posted to Whale Island for training as a seaman gunner. (2-3 months). On completion of training he was sent to New York on the liner Queen Elizabeth and was put up in a Hotel which was leased by the RN in New Jersey. Posted to HMS Duckworth, a Captain Class frigate. The ship was painted grey (US colour) overall. Later repainted to AP 507C with green deck (again very emphatic about the green). He served on this ship until just prior to VE Day, in the Atlantic, Western Approaches and on 4 Russian convoys, two to Murmansk and two to Archangel. Subsequent post to LST 238 for the liberation of the Channel Islands. Shipped German POWs back to UK, then transferred to Far East but war ended after arrival at Trincolamee in Ceylon. Returned to UK on troopship Empire Windrush. Then 6 weeks training at Whale Island and qualified as a 2nd Class gunnery rating. Posted to HMS Contest, a Co Class destroyer. Spent 30 months serving on her in the Far East. I had to stop the interview at that point as we had a serious derailment (remember we were at a model railway exhibition). I will try to get more at another time. The major point of interest I noted was w.r.t. the Malaya's appearance. There is a picture in Ensign 4 Malaya taken in mid-1940 showing her in an unofficial camouflage scheme. The picture shows Malaya with Barham and an unnamed cruiser which I believe may be Australia. The question is when was the picture taken and could Malaya have been repainted before he joined her in August 1940. I hope this post may be of interest to some SMMLies and recommend that others do the same thing and interview an old salt. They are usually very keen to talk when someone shows an interest. John Rule PS: I also borrowed his photo album. COOL, when can we see the pics Mistress Lorna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocky Mountain Shipyards Sub Plans Greg Sharpes' plans are all FIRST RATE! I have seen his drawings in the SubCommittee Reports; they are highly accurate (at least they matched the deck fittings of the USS Toledo, City of Corpus Christi, and Hartford that I have been aboard), with ballast tank vents, seawater intakes, and other details often missing from other plan sets. BTW, Lisa Norman at Rocky Mt. is also an outstanding individual to do business with. Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Dave Baker Subject: PEARL HARBOR BATTLELINE COLORS With regard to the hint about the colors of the battleline ships at Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941, well-placed sources have revealed that recently-discovered, high quality film shows the ships to have been in a shade of blue. All will, reportedly, be revealed in the near future. I know nothing more. Perhaps, if the parties in dispute over IPMS juding will agree to a moritorium, there will be time and space enough in SMML for more germane revelations. With regard, to IPMS in general, organization is truly the death of creativity. Cheers/Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Shaya Novak" Subject: USS Forrestal HELP Does any know what time frame the present USS Forrestal kit from Revell is. Shaya Novak Naval Base Hobbies The Store for The Model Ship Builder www.modelshipbuilding.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Morley, James (London)" Subject: USS Iowa Keith Bender wrote ....... >> She also had many small differances about her compared to the other Iowas. The biggest differance being the bridge and the two level conning tower and lack of quad 40mm on top of turret #2 << Ah yes, but what we really want to know is a) Did you manage to convert the Bow 20mm tubs to the correct shape? - If so, how? (there's at least 2 people needing an answer to this one), and b) did you manage to squeeze Roosevelt's bathtub through the bridge windows???? Regards James Morley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocky Mountain Shipyards Sub Plans (Question) In general, Greg Sharpe plans are well thought of. I have seen his US plans, and are the best alternative if you can't get your hands on official docking plans for the subject. For more opinions, you might want to consider checking out the Subcommittee web site. Following the links to the general message board - there are a few people working on Typhoons who could provide more information. http://www.wolfsong.com/SubCommittee/ Additionally, this is a great site for those interested in the radio control of model submarines. Kurt Greiner SeaPhoto Maritime Photography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Tom Detweiler Subject: Re: Internet Hobby Shops Marc Flake wrote: >> In "Credit where credit's due," Fritz Koopman did a classy job of rewarding a few outstanding hobby suppliers with some well-chosen words of praise. I hope to maintain that aura of class while addressing a subject that has begun to bother me regarding Internet hobby shops. The problem is the length of time it takes to ship an order. I understand why they don't stock the stuff they have listed in their on-line catalogs, but I wish they'd give some indication of how long it will take to ship. They should follow the example of the Internet bookstores who list catalog items with information like: "Ships in 2-3 days," or "Ships in 1-2 weeks." Just let us know how long we're going to have to wait. Oh, and another thing, when I make an order, I want it all sent at the same time, not as it is available. Can you give us that option? I'd rather wait a few weeks and save the postage. Otherwise, I'd just order one kit from each manufacturer separately and skip the retailer completely. << I definitely agree and sympathize with Marc Flake on Internet Hobby Shops! If they are tuned in to this newsletter, I hope they will take the suggestions as business research seriously. I too don't like putting in an order and then having it dribble in one item at a time, sometimes over a period of many weeks or months, while I pay the individual shipping and postage for each unit shipped. Another thing that has started getting serious is the line charge for "Shipping & Handling"-- a sort of coverall charge that adds to the overall cost of getting a product by mail. Another note to internet vendors: I am incensed by those outfits who, for whatever reason other than cowardice, cave in to the greedy tax bureaucrats from other individual states and collect their out of state Sales Taxes for them! This is unconstitutional as hell (in the US), and should never be tolerated-- although it sure beats the outrageous charges for ordering something from overseas!! Tom Detweiler, Taxation Hater -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "John Sheridan" Subject: Re: Ms 1 >> Then explain all the photos I have of the California during the attack with a nearly black hull and light upper works. << MS11 ? MS21? >> I will conceed to you on nearly anything regarding paint schemes, but if it isn't Ms 1, then what in the blue blazes is it. Just be prepared for everyone here who's built up PH BB to scream bloody murder. << Oh, the evidence is there alright, and in color no less!......right John ? >> ah spam, how the fudge do I fix this $300 resin cagemast "fill in the blank" kit that I spent x months painting to perfection to account for THIS! Yeah, yeah, yeah, as ye shall paint, so shall ye strip, but does anybody know of any 1/xxx scale yardbirds for hire? << You could always leave it the way you originally painted it. Of course, it will be painted incorrectly and you will probally go insane knowing this ...... BOOOOWAAHAHAHAHAH ! OTOH, you could enter the model in a IPMS contest and no one will care if it is painted wrong! John R. Sheridan (Heading for Shelter!) What I do to Spammers: http://microscale.com/images/N2.jpg I am not a Member of the Lumber Cartel (tinlc) and I am not Unit #631 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Fernando, Yohan" Subject: Re: Japanese pronunciation Fritz Wagner wrote: >> But those are just observations over the years and I don't know the general rules.<< Fritz, These pronounciations are actually a result of saying the words at a native speaker's talking speed. If you say 'ya-ma-shee-ta' quickly, it will come out as 'ya-mash-ta'. It also has to do with not stressing any of the syllables, as we would be tempted to do in English. It's not 'ya-ma-SHEE-ta', but 'ya-ma-shee-ta', which is very close to sounding like 'ya-mash-ta'. Similarly for the apparant silent 'u's at the ends of words that end in 'su' (which is mostly all present tense verbs). The last 'u' in 'gozaimasu' tends to be a little less stressed when spoken so comes out sounding like 'go-za-i-mas', but in reality the 'u' is probably still being pronounced, albeit a little cut off. Yohan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Richelieu book Hi Jens The book is mainly about the Richelieu and is by Rene Sarnet and Eric le Valliant. Publisher is MARINES edition and ISBN is 2-909675-32-7. Its worth the purchase. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Japanese Torpedo rails Hi Filipe I think they're actually mine-laying rails and I have a nice photo of Hatsushimo engaged in mine-laying operations. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: DRPREUL@aol.com Subject: Re: MS 1......... THE TRUTH To all of you who are mystified about the battleline at Pearl Harbor. The National Archives has actual film footage in chrotocrome in January/February of 1942 shows USS California and USS Nevada being towed to drydock. I shared this info with Steve Wiper who shared it with John. I have not seen the film yet but my friend who found it (I cannot disclose his name because of his position) is an authority on Naval photos and film. He has reviewed the film many times over. The film definitely shows the battle line in dark blue and not dark gray, which is what we have been believing for so long. My friend has been able to make still frame prints from the film. Steve and I have a copy. THERE IS NO MISTAKING THAT THE COLOR IS DARK BLUE. The color probably is Navy Blue. Last but not least STOP THE JUDGING THREAD. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Don Preul.......... J&D Productions Annapolis Md. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Loren Perry Subject: Fujimi 1/700 Kitty Hawk CV The new Fujimi kit of the USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63) was a disappointment to me, too. It's waterline only with no underwater hull or fittings, but it does have a very basic full-length hangar deck. The overall shapes look good, but there's very little engraved detail. A solid radar mast aft of the island is provided with raised engraving where the open girders should be. An LSO station with windscreen is provided and all four elevators are positionable. The hull has separately attached sponsons including the large ones that support the flight deck overhangs. The flight deck is very simple with minimal engraved detailing. There is virtually no detailing inside the catwalks surrounding the flight deck; they are simply empty troughs. Ship's weapons are fair to good. Radar antennas are similar to Italeri's. Engraving on the island is minimal with raised squares depicting the bridge windows. No encapsulated life rafts are provided, a major oversight. Aircraft are clear moldings and include F-18, F-14, and SH-60 machines only. Each is an excellent model of its prototype with many separately added parts, but there should be many more types besides these three. Two tow tractors are also furnished in clear plastic. The decals are the best part of this kit with complete flight deck and elevator striping, aircraft squadron markings, and various ship's insignia. The large island numbers even have simulated fluorescent lamps used by the real carrier when "dressing ship" at night. In all, not state-of-the-art for this day and age. But the model is a good starting point for someone willing to add scratchbuilt details. The hangar deck is definitely a plus. The high cost is a minus, but a resin kit would be vastly more expensive. Your decision. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: Paint, Pearl Harbor, Iowa and thanks First, a thank you to Fritz Koopman for his kind words. I think that you'll find that most of us in the cottage industry try very hard to treat our customers in the manner in which we'd like to be treated. We're modelers and customers too. Snyder & Short is committed to service, and you can all count on that. Now, on to paint issues. Jens is right: here I am, hoisted on my own petard as it were. That'll teach me to make grand pronouncements. From now on I'll stick to trying to put out an accurate product and answering questions as best I can. ;^) The Pearl Harbor Battle Line? Alas WRPRESS, there are recently unearthed color photos taken by John Ford not long after the event that apparently show the BBs (just after salvage and before repairs) in dark blue with light gray tops. Before anyone goes for my throat, my caveat is that I haven't yet seen these firsthand. However, the 2 gentlemen with whom I've spoken who have these in hand attest to the accuracy of the color, and they are adamant that it isn't Dark Gray 5-D. Now, this isn't inconsistent with other evidence. Think about it: the 9/41 revision to Ships-2 officially discontinued Measure 1. The Battle Line didn't repaint from prewar Standard Navy Gray until 11/41. It doesn't make sense that they would paint into a Measure discontinued two months earlier and referenced by that Ships-2 revision as ineffective (the Dark Gray was too dark and not blue enough). By that time, both Atlantic and Pacific Fleets had also dropped the use of Sea Blue 5-S since it didn't hold up in use. The BBs are too dark to be in 5-S, and they are certainly not in Ms.11, since that was the one Measure of the period for which light upperworks were not specified. Logically, what does that leave? Navy Blue 5-N. It was in use on other ships at that time. There is a known color photo of LEX in 5-N, pre-PH, and of DRAYTON. So if the John Ford photos are correct--and I'm going out on a limb (yardarm?) and betting they are--then the color has to be Navy Blue; it's the only thing dark enough. Now as I think I've stated before, I've done a lot of professional research and writing on the use of historic photos as an aid to paint analysis, so I'm well aware of the hazards thereof. I'll keep everyone posted as this unfolds further. IOWA's Ms.32/1d: my partner Randy Short states that she didn't use Navy Blue (5-N) in that scheme, but rather that the colors were Light Gray (5-L) and Dull Black. (Incidentally, somewhere in the dim past some author had a typo that called this "Bull Black"; Dull Black is the correct appelation.) John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys (Now heading for a deep bunker....) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "larsenal" Subject: Richelieu book Hello all ! The Richelieu book could be ordered direct from: Marines Edition, 359 route de Ste-Luce, BP 20152, 44301 Nantes Cedex 3. It is possible to E-mail them at : marines@wanadoo.fr Price is 450.00 French Francs ( about $ 72.50 ) It is also possible to obtain a copy from Pacific Front Hobbies. Best regards, Jacques Druel L'Arsenal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: Duane Fowler Subject: Re: Yamato's last mission The wooden deck of the Yamato was never painted, as far as I know. The bow and stern were metal, and the aft portion of the deck with the aircraft rails on it was concrete. All non-wooden decks and horizontal surfaces were painted the same color as the hull and vertical surfaces. There were linoleum strips next to the outboard aircraft rails that extended up to the wooden deck. By the time of the Yamato's last mission the decks were rather weathered which may account for their dark appearance, but they weren't painted. Best regards, Duane (Yamatoholic) Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Robert Weilacher Subject: Vestal I saw on the WARSHIP website that Corsair Armada Productions is producing a 1/700 USS Vestal - does anyone know what year it is to represent, or give a little history of the ship - I think it is a repair ship. Rob -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: AllenFW2@aol.com Subject: Re: Graf Spee...not a name, a place The only lettering I've ever seen across the forward superstructure of Panzerschiff Admiral Graf Spee, was a placard reading "Coronel" in Germanic characters. I believe this had something to do with the exploits of Maximilian Von Spee aboard Scharnhorst 1 and Gneisenau 1 just before his spectacular defeat at the hands of the Royal Navy at the Falklands (one of the few times our battle cruisers actually worked well!). Frank Allen "Battle Cruiser Hood" (http://www.hmshood.com and http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/2966/) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: "Robert Lockie" Subject: Oh no, not more judging..... Rusty White's mention of the judging handbook sounds like a decent idea. I wonder whether IPMS USA might consider putting it on the www, given that there is presumably nothing secret involved. It might be useful for everyone (potential judges and entrants) to see how judges do their job. I have judged a number of competitions over the years and it is infrequent to be issued with any instructions, so I have tended to try to be objective and consistent and try to head off any comments from colleagues whose process is otherwise. However, they probably think I am the one being unreasonable! Given the impracticality of popular vote at many competitions, we are having to use more 'selected' judges than we once did and there is an obvious risk of undiversified wrong ways of doing things unless we have everyone singing from the same hymnsheet. And I endorse the comment about it being often surprisingly easy to narrow down the contenders by looking at the basic modelling skills on display. Shame really, considering that it just needs a little planning and thought. Robert Lockie Cambridge UK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: "Robert Lockie" Subject: Vickers 40mm gun Try John Lambert, who is a subscriber to this list. He has a large range of drawings of naval ordnance and this may be one of them. His address is: lamkeel@email.msn.com Robert Lockie Cambridge UK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Michael John Zwierko Subject: Spruance class forward air intake housing Does anyone out there have a good photo or drawing of the forward air intake housing on a Spruance class destroyer?? The intake housing is forward, on the port side of the ship and just aft of the bridge (looks like a shack with louvers). I am particularly interested in a shot showing how the forward edge is notched to fit around the port mast leg. I know that the notch starts three louvers in and that there is a ladder in that notch leading to the deck. After that it is unclear (and I haven't been on a Spru-can in a while). Any help would be appreciated. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Derek Wakefield Subject: Re: 1/350 Cleveland CL Ed... Ah, you and me both, but I think space issues are going to force me to seek out a 1/700 Cleveland (probably the Skyline Miami kit) I've seen listings for a Gulfstream 1:350 Houston, but Gulfstream is no more. Recently I've heard conflicting reports as to who now owns the former Gulfstream patterns/molds for both their Cleveland and Atlanta cl kits. An article on the Warships review of the kit said Classic Warships aquired them, but someone else recently said Iron Shipwrights now had them. Maybe we can get some clarification here on the list. The only model of the Galveston I've ever heard of was the one put out by Renwall (and reissued by Revell as the Springfield). It's definately not a 1:350 kit (more like a 1:400'ish kit), nor is it very accurate. Based on what I've seen/read, it'd be easier to convert one of the Gulfsteam kits than mess with that one. Even then, you're not talking about an easy job. As I sit here looking at a photo of the ship in one of my books, it's safe to say you're looking a serious bit of scratchbuilding. Dasvidanya! _|_o_|_ Derek "Tiger" (/\)akefield /---(.](o)[.)---\ iscandar2@chatter.com o oo O oo o http://www.iscandar-66.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "John Snyder" Subject: HMS BARHAM My partner, Randy Short, is looking for a photo of BARHAM that appeared on page 48 of the March 1976 issue of Naval Historical Review. Can any SMMLies help? John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Get Well Soon ! >>Subject: Anyone know Van Bagwell ? << Van, Can't keep a good man down! hope you have a speedy recovery, Best Wishes, Steve Wiper - Classic Warships -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Rusty on stanchions? Rusty, Paint stanchion same as vertical color in the area of each stanchion, railing is very dark gray. Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Pearl Harbor Colors I have in my possession a few photos pulled off of color movie footage from Jan. & Feb. of 1942, of California & Nevada being pulled into the dry dock at Pearl. The two ships are in the as damaged state. There is no mistaking the color, it is definitely DARK BLUE. The two ships were probably not repainted after the attack, before damage was repaired. There remains the question, is it Sea or Navy? After talking to a few people, I believe that it is Navy. That's my opinion. Thanks, Steve Wiper - Classic Warships -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Pearl Harbor Colors James, Were those the BLACK & WHITE photos you were referring to? Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Pearl Harbor Colors Dear Alan, I have color pictures, I have color pictures, I have color pictures, etc., etc. Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: New LCI Model I couldn't pass up the new "Landing Craft, Infantry (Large)" in 1/350 by Iron Shipwrights. The resin model for the early series of craft is full hull, about four inches long, with 5 resin 20mm guns, rudders, gangways and about a half dozen other small parts. The photoetched brass sheet is very complete and includes all railings, ladders, and 20mm shields. Some brass rod is included to fashion a simple mast. The plans are very basic - a simple computer-generated diagram of the LCI(L) - but probably adequate to assemble it. It showed the position of the two liferafts, but they were not contained in the kit that I bought. No painting information is included, but these things carried a number of camo schemes, including jungle green and brown in the South Pacific. An example is included in the book 'United States Navy Camouflage of the WW2 Era' by Tom Walkowiak & Larry Sowinski, available from the Floating Drydock. Mike L Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: CVN Charles DeGaulle The new issue of Fine Scale Modeler (January 2000) includes a workbench review of the new Heller CVN "Charles DeGaulle". The kit gets a mixed review; good in terms of potential, scale, decals and subject matter, but lacking in overall detail and having generally poor aircraft. There is also some information on a web site for the French navy. Mike L Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: Derek Wakefield Subject: Re: MS 1 >> NO NO NO I don't believe it. You heretic you. What, when, why, how???????? << I knew it, I knew it!! The Burma Shave has hit the fan, repeat, the Burma Shave has hit the fan!! Ooo-hoo../frothy!/ Dasvidanya! _|_o_|_ Derek "Tiger" (/\)akefield /---(.](o)[.)---\ iscandar2@chatter.com o oo O oo o http://www.iscandar-66.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32) From: "Courtney Regan" Subject: Electric Sander for my Plastic ship model Well, does anyone out there perhaps know of an electric sander I could use on my plastic ship models. I'm looking for a belt sander type, but a really slow one (less than 10,000 rpm) so it doesn't melt the plastic. I've seen the ones that are offered on the micromark.com web-site and in their catalog, but their a bit pricey. Looking to spend around $50. Anybody have Any ideas? Well thanks a lot. Courtney Regan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33) From: steven lau Subject: White Metal parts I have avoided it as long as I can, I must now begin preparation of those metal parts. I have heard of many different ways to prepare these parts but wondered if there was any consensus. To remove seams what works the best? Sand paper, metal files or even grinding with a motor tool? I thought I'd better ask before I ruin something. Thanks, Steven Lau. Lincoln, Nebraska. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34) From: "Y.Sakurai" Subject: Re: Japanese pronunciation Fritz Wagner wrote: >> I believe there are a few tricky pronunciations in Japanese. A couple are: General Yamashita, "the Tiger of Malaya,"--his name was pronounced: Ya - mash - ta. The Japanese dish sukiyaki is pronounced skee-ya-kee. The medieval castle on Okinawa is spelled Nakagusuku but is pronounced Na-ka-gus-ku. The "u" is silent at the end of some words, such as gosaimasu. But those are just observations over the years and I don't know the general rules<< Yes, "u" is sometimes very weak. As the japanese word is written in English, "u" is often omitted. "Chokai" is 4 letters word in katakana or hiragana. ( 2 letters in kanji ) "CHO""U""KA""I" If we, the Japanese, speak it very slowly, you can hear "CHOuKAI". "CHOu" pronounce like "cho" in "choke". But the " u " is very weak. Also "KONGOu" , "FUSOu" , "HYUuGA" , "MYOuKOu" , "HIRYUu" , "SOuRYUu" , "RYUuJOu" , "TAIHOu" , "TENRYUu" , "KAGEROu" , "YUuGUMO" etc. sincerely Yoshihiro S. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 35) From: Nicolas Protonotarios Subject: New Subscriber How do we place orders? I am interested in the Modelkrak range of old ships Thank you Nicolas Protonotarios -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 36) From: Mitsuaki Subject: New subscriber Dear sir, I'm Japanese ship modeler, and my main concern is WW2 RN ships. I have been building RN ship models for some 5 or 6 years. It is difficult to find books or refferences about RN ships in Japan, much more official documents. I have recently uploaded my site, but I feel I should exchange informations with other modelers. I hope your further kindness. Yours truly, Mitsuaki Kubota http://www.hig.tocolo.or.jp/hmdock/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Felix Bustelo" Subject: International Maritime Modeling November 1999 Update I am pleased to announce the November 1999 update to International Maritime Modeling. This also marks IMM's First Anniversary! The November 1999 update to the site includes: Addition of a brand new section - a series Paint List pages where I have compiled available colors from such manufacturers as Humbrol, Tamiya, Testors, Badger Modelflex and Model Shipways. Also included in this new section is a Snyder & Short Paint Chip page. Addition of a News Archive page. Photos of Mike Settle's 1/200 scale Smit Rotterdam Tug and 1/90 scale Firefighter and Peter Hall's 1/600 HMS Warspite in the Photo Gallery. Reviews of Tom's Modelworks 1/600 US Navy WW2 Radar and the new 1/400 HMS King George V/Prince of Wales set and L'Arsenal's 1/400 resin Crotale Missile Launchers and 1/400 resin Helicopters set in Photoetch Reviews. An account of the Royal Canadian Navy's first U-boat kill of World War II in the History Page. A review of Fletcher, Gearing and Sumner Class Destroyers in World War 2 from WR Press in Book Reviews. Update of the Kit List page to include ship kits from Modelcraft and additions to the PT Dockyard catalog. Related updates to the Links page. Please stop by for a visit. Felix Bustelo Webmaster http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm Felix, Happy Birthday to IMM from both Shane and myself. Lorna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: AllenFW2@aol.com Subject: HMS Hood Greetings All Frank Allen of the official HMS Hood site, "Battle Cruiser Hood," here once again. We've been having some problems with our service provider of late. The site is often down or very slow to work with. The provider, WebJump, assures us that they will get their server problems solved soon. Until then, we'll maintain the site at "http://www.hmshood.com" as well as a mirror/clone site at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/2966/" Either way, you'll be able to get in! By the way, we need photos of Hood models...any type/make/scale for our Hood Models Gallery. If you have a Hood model that you'd like to show off (to the world as well as actual crewmembers of Hood), please contact me. Thanks Frank -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://www.smml.org.uk/ for the back issue archive. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume