Subject: SMML VOL 844 Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:30:03 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Iowa Ms. 32/22d 2: Crumbling models 3: Day of Deceit (Again) 4: Re: C.S.S. Alabama 5: Re: Steve's book collection 6: On the naming of US warships ... 7: Ramp Strikes 8: Congratulations from Gold Medal Models 9: Re: Making masts 10: Re: SARATOGA 11: ANZ Jacks 12: R/C Installations for Small Models 13: Scratch build 1/96th scale Schleswig Holstein 14: USS Flint 15: Re: Revell CSS Alabama Re-release 16: Detail & Scale America/Lexington 17: Scharnhorst camo & sub kits 18: Translations 19: MARBLEHEAD mystery object! 20: Re: Book Checks 21: Gasoline (petrol) boycott 22: Value of completed ship model 23: ALGERIE !!! 24: Pit Road (Skywave) web site 25: 1/350 Forrestall!!!!!!!!!!!! 26: KuK Radetzky 27: ijn equipment set II, next installment 28: Rusty's yellowing experiment 29: Materials longevity 30: Modern USN Camo Guidance 31: But we already knew this! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Announcement from W R PRESS 2: FS: 1/720 Revell Missouris 3: Y2K IPMS/USA Nationals 4: NEWS FROM MODEL SHIP JOURNAL 5: Navismagazine.com - MARCH 2000 ISSUE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Satin, Michael N. (LNG-SHEP)" Subject: Iowa Ms. 32/22d Hello everyone! Does anyone know of any sites where I can find color photos of the Iowa in her measure 32/22d (according to the S&S site) scheme (1944)? This is the strange anti-sub scheme with the feathered edges. I have one small color shot in the Warship Data and Sumrall says there that the dark color is Navy Blue. I've seen Dull Black listed elsewhere. It looks like blue to me, but I'd love confirmation. Thanks! Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: Crumbling models Rusty wrote >> Hey, 50 years from now who's gonna care anyway? << I think my (still hypothetical) kids would care, or I would hope so. Longevity, like accuracy, is part of the value of a good ship model and is just something that the conscientious builder should strive for. And, generally speaking, it is a responsibility of ours to consider the long view of things. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: MIKE.LEONARD@customs.treas.gov Subject: Day of Deceit (Again) John Prados, author of "Combined Fleet Decoded" and other works on cryptoanalysis -- and an acknowledged expert in the field -- has just reviewed Robert Stinnett's "Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor" (see the online edition of the Washington Post Book World from 03/05/2000). He dismissed it as a "frustrating and ultimately unsatisfactory rendition of the months before Pearl Harbor". A number of the reader reviews on Amazon.com (written by others who claim a background in cryptology) have similarly found serious -- even fatal -- defects in the allegations and assumptions presented by Mr. Stinnett, whose only previous book apparently was a fawning biography of George H. W. Bush. Caveat emptor... Mike Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: LBart73@aol.com Subject: Re: C.S.S. Alabama I once had this kit and a set of plans (MAP, I think). The model matched the plans pretty well. As has already been mentioned, there is very little factual evidence on Alabama's appearance anyway. The Alabama was almost a paired release with the Kearsarge, it followed the Kearsarge. I once read that the molds for the Kearsarge were modified to make the Alabama, hence a re-release of Kearsarge is not possible. Too bad, I built the Kearsarge back in the 60s as a kid and would love the chance to do it again. The last time I saw one of the Alabama kits, the box said 1/96, same as the other large Revell ships. Crew figures were the same size as on the Constitution. Larry B -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "John Sheridan" Subject: Re: Steve's book collection Steve Wiper wrote: >> Who needs friends? << Hey! My friends cost me a fortune to keep as my friends! >> especially like these two troglodyte, << Thank-you! >> knuckle dragging << You are too kind! >> tree swinging << You flatter me with your pearls of kindness! >> glue sniffing << I'm touched! >> butt scratching << Kinder words have never been spoken! >> finger smelling << Moi ?!?!? Oh Steve........! >> burping, farting, grunting << You are so thoughtfull! >> Cousin It must have had sex at least once << <*blush*> >> Oh yeah, did I mention that they are ship modelers. What a bonus! << AGHHHH! I've never been so insulted in all of my life. THE NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE! (Before the SMML police decend upon us, I think it always fun to lighten things up a little bit now and again. I promise to stop...........really!! ) John R. Sheridan (And I sent you away ohhhhhhhhhh Mandy!) What I do to Spammers: http://microscale.com/images/N2.jpg I am not a Member of the Lumber Cartel (tinlc) and I am not Unit #631 The last place on earth I would look for the Lumber Cartel(tm) is http://come.to/the.lumber.cartel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Edward F Grune" Subject: On the naming of US warships ... Good morning SMMLies; In the current isue of the Proceedings of the US Naval Institute (March, 2000) there is a well reasoned article by CDR Donald Bouchoux USN (Ret) titled The Name Game. In that article CDR Bouchoux traces the confusion in ship's names particulary as they were applied to carriers. He notes that politicians who selected their fellow politician's names for the Nimitz class carriers; Eisenhower, Lincoln, Washington, and Teddy Roosevelt did well in naming worthy heros. But the selection of Truman, Vinson, and Stennis may be less so. Truman led the administration who attempted to do away with Naval aviation. He questions, "how many sailors even know who Vinson or Stennis were". "Political expediency rules. Clearly we have lost our way.", he cries. CDR Borchoux argues that given the power and prominance of the nations carriers, they should be named wisely. CVN-77 will be named within the next few months and there are or will be available historic names that should be carried on: Constellation, Lexington, Saratoga, Midway, and Coral Sea. Ed Mansfield, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Doremus, Mark" Subject: Ramp Strikes Mike Shannon's movie comments reminded me of a couple of other Hollywood cut and paste crashes. I was watching an old "Black Sheep Squadron" or was it "Baa Baa Black Sheep" TV show. For some reason Boyington's Marine F4U Corsairs were to land on a carrier (didn't think Marine Corsairs had tail hooks). The approach shots from the plane were of a Forestal class CV (angle deck at least). The shots from the bridge were clearly of F4U's landing on an axial deck carrier. Finally one of the F4U's ignores a wave off and crashes into the deck where it magically turns into an F6 and falls into the starboard catwalk. Flying Leathernecks (with the Duke) features F6F-5 "Wildcats" defending Guadacanal from F6F-5 "Zeros". A "Wildcat" bombing raid includes at least 2 SB2C "Helldivers" nosing over to drop their bombs. "Run Silent, Run Deep" also includes "Japanese" TBD's attacking Clark Gable's sub (not a fleet boat). His sub also suffers a depth charging by a 4 gun destroyer (not a Fletcher, any guesses to it's real identity?) and a underwater battle with a Japanese "U-boat". Mark Doremus Who gets yelled at for laughing at that F9F pretending to be an F-14 in Red October. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Loren Perry Subject: Congratulations from Gold Medal Models Gold Medal Models offer heartiest congratulations to three ship modelers for recently making the big-time in the hobby publishing world with GMM-equipped models they've built: 1. To Mike Ashey for Part Two of his excellent how-to article on building Tamiya's 1/350 scale USS Missouri which appears in the April 2000 FineScale Modeler magazine; 2. To Doug Booth of London, Ontario for his beautifully weathered and detailed 1/700 scale USS Princeton (CVL-23) shown in Great Scale Modeling 2000, a Kalmbach publication; 3. To Chris Skokos of New York City for his outstanding collection of 1/350 and 1/450 scale model ocean liners which also appeared in Great Scale Modeling 2000. All of the models built by these fellows are beautiful works of art that reflect well on their builders' skills. Bravo Zulu and Well Done! Loren Perry/GMM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Making masts Rusty White writes: >> A mast that size (1/96) could be made from brass rod using a metal or wood lathe. I was discussing with a friend of mine (who owns a metal lathe) he turning the gun barrels for my upcoming 1/35 Bofors quad gun kit and he said it would be no problem at all. I would consider making the yards from brass as well. Brass is much stronger than wood or plastic and fair better on temperature changes R/C model go through. << While I would agree that turning the mast would be no problem for someone with a good lathe, the weight of the final product might prove excessive for this particular working model. Destroyer size ships in 1/96 scale are very topweight sensitive, and the use of solid brass so far above the center of rotation might prove troublesome. I would suggest building the structure out of cast acrylic rod machined to a suitable profile. Cast rod is both more rigid and machinable than the typical extruded rod found at most plastic stores. A tight grained good quality wood blank could also be used, but is harder to finish smoothly. If a lathe is not available, perhaps take a pair of calipers down to the local sports emporium and check out cheap fishing rods, see if you can find one that has a section of the correct taper. Cordially, Kurt Greiner SeaPhoto Maritime Photography On board shots of the NS Savannah available! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: SARATOGA The color photo in question shows SARA in Measure 21, overall Navy Blue 5-N. Beyond that, I'm unwilling to guess further as I'm looking at the photo on my laptop screen--not the best venue. The Grumman product sitting aft among the SBDs appears too big to be a Wildcat--looks more like an Avenger. If so, it's not Midway but sometime later. Given the color of the flight deck, I'm inclined to think that it might be a mis-dated photo that actually shows her after she was relegated to training carrier status--except for the SBDs which by 1945 had disappeared from the fleet. More on this later. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys http://www.shipcamouflage.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: Duane Fowler Subject: ANZ Jacks Hello to all in the South, I am working on producing all the naval ensigns and jacks and have a question for the Australians and New Zealanders on the list: Do you guys have have a jack and if so, what does it look like? Is it the Union Flag? Regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Joel Labow Subject: R/C Installations for Small Models I recommend that anyone interested in this area get the brochure from AW-RC ($3.00 plus a SSAE last time I checked). Their address is: AW-RC P.O. Box 936561 Margate,FL 33093 USA This company has a great line of miniature electronic throttle/motor combinations designed to plug into Futaba/JR/Airtronics receivers and draw power from the receiver battery. Their smallest offering isn't any bigger than a standard servo. A member of my club R/C'ed a 10" model with this setup and it runs very well (In calm waters!). I have no connection with this company, but for those of us with insufficient know-how to tear apart and rewire servos they offer a good, and reasonably inexpensive, solution. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Tim Morland" Subject: Scratch build 1/96th scale Schleswig Holstein Dear Listers, Please can anyone help? I would like to scratch build a 1/96th scale model of the Schleswig Holstein at the start of her career. Any suggestions for plans, photos etc would be gratefully received. Thanks Tim Morland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "graham" Subject: USS Flint Hi can anybody point me to a plan or pic of USS flint 1944 portside, I have several of her starboard side but no info on her port. Also is there a German naval site on the web? looking for info on Hipper and Prinz Eugen manly colour info wanted. Thanks in advance graham. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Steve Sobieralski" Subject: Re: Revell CSS Alabama Re-release The Kearsarge and the Alabama are both 1/8" scale. The Alabama has been rereleased at least once since its original release in the early sixties (mine is from "87), but I'm not sure if the Kearsarge has ever been. Certainly not recently, i.e. within the last 10-15 years. Steve Sobieralski -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Ralph & Karen Batykefer" Subject: Detail & Scale America/Lexington Anyone out there know where I could find a Tab Books Detail & Scale book no. 25047 USS America or a book no. 25039 USS Lexington? Let me know off line if you need to. Thanks ahead of time, Ralph -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: SAMI ARIM Subject: Scharnhorst camo & sub kits I believe that the picture in the book "Anschtriche und Tarnanschtriche der Deutschen Kriegsmarine" on page 80 shows her in the same camo scheme. This photo is much clearer and taken from the aft. The photo on Burt's book was taken from the bow. I saw today Bill Gruner's post about the Samek kits. They are very exciting and i like to make a comment on the U-boat kits. After getting the latest Pitroad sub kits I believe that any submarine model should have the option of the full hull model. Don't get me wrong, i am a true waterline modeler, but when it comes to sub kits it should be full hull. best regards Sami Arim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Mike" Subject: Translations >> Hi Ismail, Your translations of the sets would be most welcome on the SMML site. Heck, it'll give Mike something to do ;-ş Shane << Oh, it will, will it????? In that case, .....! I have several sets of instructions (mainly Tamiya & Aoshima) that I can scan in & post to the site for translation, and would be happy to place the results there as well. I can always squeeze in new submissions - don't let anyone tell you different! However, I think we will all agree that we won't want to be a burden to this generous offer. May I suggest that Shane co-ordinates identifying the most popular kits? Mike SMML Webmaster Hi gang, I suggest it would be easier to keep the translations to Skywave, etc, those kits that don't have english instructions at all. The big four ie: Tamiya, Fujimi, Hasaegawa & Aoshima do have english sheets, it's just that the particular kit you buy may not have them. In which case, someone on the list may have an english sheet & can copy it. Regards, Shane - who's just sent the latest APMA magazine to the printers & can now catch up on all the email. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: Fritz Koopman Subject: MARBLEHEAD mystery object! Hello Ladies and Gents It's time for Fritz's question of the month...... I'm in the process of trying to convert the Iron Shiprights USS DETROIT to the late '44 to '45 fit USS MARBLEHEAD. I've been using photos from both the Classic Warship book and some others that I managed to obtain durring a raid of the town archives. If one looks at pic's of the MARBLHEAD they will see in the aft superstructure, there is a "tub" with a canvas awning over it situated just below, and aft, of the armored (MK 11?) stereoscope. WHATS IN THIS TUB?!!! All the photos that I've got show this area with way too much shadow in the "window" to determine what the tub is for. Or the viewing slot is closed up with a canvas cover. But but the window/viewing slot/opening is big enough that whatever I'm missing inside would be noticed at 1/350th scale. I know its not another twin 40mm because A) its always covered with an awning with a pipe frame, and B) this feature is on the MARBLEHEAD in photos dating back to as early as '35 if not earlier. Looking at her sister OMAHA cruisers, shows that all of them had this same "covered tub" at one time ore another. Blue-prints that I got at the Nat. Archives were only minimal. (I thought I would only need to know which and where to put the splinter shilds, and how to change some of the deck geometries) So the drawings that I have of this deck do not show, or say, whats inside this tub. they only show a circle in the middle suggesting that something is mounted there. Unfortunately I don't plan on being back in D.C. for at least another 8 months, so that won't be helping me trying to make something of this for SMMLie-con. My best hunches are that this may either be a Pelorus or (likelier still) an open torpedo director (type 3 maybe? I'll have to check my Friedman Naval Weapons book at home for the name of the type I'm thinking of). Is there anyone out there that knows for shure what's in there? Any help greatly appreciated... Best regards, Fritz Koopman In Salem, MA where it looks like spring is threatening to attack, and liberate me, free to sail without freezing my a...a..ahem. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Book Checks >> Hey everyone, funny thought just came to me. I work in a bookstore and I thought if you want to check on the availbility of books give me the ISBN number and I'll check for ya......at least as far as Waldenbooks and Borders are concerned. Josh Mayne Davenport, Ia << Josh- Thanks for the offer. Not to take away any business from bookstores, but I thought I would share with the group an excellent Internet bookstore specializing in Military (OK, Yes, he DOES have a big submarine section!!). The name of the bookstore is Torpedo Junction, and the URL is: http://www.sonic.net/~books/sub.html The owner, Rick Savel is first rate to deal with; I highly recommend him for those OOP books you just gotta have! My impression is his prices are very fair for OOP. Check out his catalog online! Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Denis & Marilyn Campbell Subject: Gasoline (petrol) boycott This is off topic, I know, but - having to drive 35 miles or so to find a decent hobby shop (all the closer ones seem to specialise in trains or RC 'planes) and being retired and living on what is euphemistically termed a "fixed income" I feel mighty put out at what is happening to the price of gasoline. I received an e-mail - which I won't paste in here because it is pretty long and rambling - which seems to indicate a grass roots movement to boycott gasoline for 3 days on the 7/8/9 of April. It is directed at the US and Canada but I am sure Europe and Australia and New Zealand all have seen the same problem. And this time it is not all taxes, but a cartel effort to manipulate the price by creating a shortage for more profits. A lot of people were very upset at the Microsoft "monopoly" recently and wanted to hang Bill Gates in effigy. Well, here we have a real monopoly engineered by a rich, greedy cartel. In a nutshell, do your best to buy no gasoline on these 3 days. If enough of us are able to do this, we just might get a message to the robbers. Denis Campbell Avon MA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Dbrown303@aol.com Subject: Value of completed ship model Hello all, Anyone have suggestions on how one would go about placing a value on a completed ship model - either for insurance purposes or simply an appraisal of the model. Please email me directly at dbrown303@aol.com Thanks in advance! Derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "Jeffrey Roberts" Subject: ALGERIE !!! Yippee! My sincere thanks to Samek for producing a kit of one of my all time favorite ships, the French heavy cruiser Algerie. There was a photo of the Algerie in the Encyclopedia set which my family had when I was a kid and it has always been a subject I would love to build a model of. A very distinctive and handsome looking ship and one which helped inspire my ongoing fascination for WW2 era warships. The rest of the list of new subjects is quite exciting too! Thanks to Bill Gruner and Michel Samek for sharing this news... Jeffrey Roberts North Hollywood, California -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Pit Road (Skywave) web site I just checked out the updated Warship site and noticed an icon to Pit Road's web site. http://member.nifty.ne.jp/pitroad/pit0e.html Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: 1/350 Forrestall!!!!!!!!!!!! I jus read on the Warship message board from Joe Damato that he is currently working on a future JAG Collective 1/350 Forrestall! Joe, tell me it's true. Next, TELL ME WHERE I'M GONNA GET THE $700.00 TO $800.00 BUCKS!!!!!!! Oh well. It's good to know it will at least out there waiting for me when I win the lottery. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: "Michael D'Silva" Subject: KuK Radetzky Thanks to all who responded to my questions about the KuK (SMS) Radetzky. It was consistent, across the board, that the letters KuK stands for 'Kaiserlich und Königlich' or 'Kaiser und König', which means about the same, or so I'm told. This was mainly to represent the dual monarchy Kaiser for Austria and König for King of Hungary. The colour scheme tips so far are: Light and dark gray with wooden decks. From the few pictures I've seen of other models, it looks like a very light brown or possibly even 'sand'. Thanks again, Michael D'Silva Melbourne, Australia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: Ismail Hassenpflug Subject: ijn equipment set II, next installment Equipment Set for IJN, by Skywave. set II (E-5) Contents: from the instrucitons (from top to bottom, left to right) Row 1: 50cal year 3 design 12.7cm twin mounting A type 50cal year 3 design 12.7cm twin mounting B type 50cal year 3 design 12.7cm twin mounting C type Row 2: 50cal year 3 design number 1 20cm single mounting A type 50cal year 3 design number 1 20cm twin mounting C type 50cal year 3 design number 1 20cm twin mounting D type Row 3: 60cal 15.5cm triple mounting 50cal year 3 design number 2 20cm twin mounting E type (part 49 for Takao type, part 48 for Tone & Mogami type, part 47 for Furutaka type) Aichi 0 design 3-seat floatplane E13A1 Row 4: 40cal 89 design 12.7cm twin high angle mounting 50cal year 3 design 14cm single mounting 50cal year 10 design 12cm single high angle mounting 12m motor launch 15m motor boat Row 5: 40cal year 3 design 8cm high angle mounting (45 and 0 degree elevations provided) depth charge launcher depth charge loading rails depth charge rails 94 design director (for destroyers) 94 design director (for Tone type) 94 design director (for Mogami type) 91 design anti aircraft system Row 6: 99 design 3m rangefinder 3m rangefinder 2m rangefinder davits for loading depth charges davits for gangways gangways (2 types) anchors hose reels (small and large types provided) luffing type boat davits ('luffing' may be misspelt) inverted J type boat davits Row 7: 6m cutter 8m motor launch 9m motor launch 9m motor boat 12m motor boat Yesterday I wrote up the first item on hte instructions' reverse side, namely the entry for the 50cal year 3 design number 1 20cm single mounting A type. Tomorrow I will continue with the remaining entries, 6 more in all. they are the 20cm C, D and E types, the 15.5cm mounting, and the 12.7cm 89 design high angle (shielded) and year 3 design A type twin mounting. Then I will do the same for the remaining sets, bit by bit. Sorry for the delay, time does nto permit all at once! Regards, Ismail Hassenpflug, MSc.Eng PhD 1st year: Ionospheric Physics Kyoto University, Radio Atmospheric Science Center -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Dave Swindell Subject: Rusty's yellowing experiment Whilst Rusty may be correct in that adding a couple of drops of blue to varnish may stop yellowing, his experiment is somewhat less than scientific. The b70 cannot be taken as a true control as it was painted at a different time with differnt batches of paint and varnish, and has been subject to different atmospheric conditions, all of which can affect varnish yellowing. Now if he had painted the X2 and vanished in alternate stripes of varnish with and without the blue added, and then seen a noticable yellowing of the varnish without compared to the varnish with the blue, then that would have been fairly definative proof (and one strange looking model, but thats the cost of experimentation!) Another thought, the test model should include an unvarnished stripe to check that it is the varnish that is yellowing (white paint can yellow all on its own) and stripes should be masked with UV proof tape at 90 degrees to the varnish stripes to show effect of exposure to light. Dave Swindell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: Dave Swindell Subject: Materials longevity >> One statement that is highlighted at the beginning of the Navy's specification is: It is advised that fiberglass resins, styrene, expanding foams, casting resins, and cyanoacrylate glues be avoided when other materials can possibly be used. I believe that this guidance is issued because the longevity of these materials is unknown or suspect. << Now this is interesting, the Bean Counters at Grey Funnel Line are concerned enough about the longevity of materials in the models they spend thousands of dollars on to issue guidelines restricting their use, but are more than happy to spend millions using these same materials to build real ships (and the aircraft that fly off them). I guess they really do view them as expendable! Dave Swindell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Modern USN Camo Guidance Somebody on the list once provided the URL for the Federation of American Scientists web site, which has a number of links to naval and military subjects, including a wealth of information on US Navy ships, aircraft, and combat systems (weapons, sensors, and communications) dating back for about 25 years. The following information is excerpted from a message from COMNAVSURFLANT (DTG 110012ZMAR97) entitled SHIPS EXTERIOR PAINT SCHEMES that I found at the FAS site: "Ref A is NSTM 631, Vol 3, Preservation of Ships in Service - Surface Ship/Submarine Application. Ref B is NSTM S6360-AG-MAN-010, Camouflage Manual for Surface Ship Concealment. This message summarizes the requirements for topside conversion of ship color schemes to reduce the average contrast of the ship to the horizon by the use of an overall haze gray appearance. Through the elimination of black and white on vertical or near vertical surfaces above the upper boot topping limit, a ships camouflage concealment ability is enhanced and the probability of detection and targeting is reduced. Letters/hull nbrs - replace white with light gray (FED-STD-595, Color 26373) and black with ocean gray silicone alkyd enamel, MIL-PRF-24635B, (FED-STD-595, Color 26173). Ships name/draft marks - replace white with light gray (FED-STD-595, Color 26373) and black with ocean gray silicone alkyd enamel (FED-STD-595, Color 26173). Ref A requires vertical topside areas of superstructure to be preserved with topcoat silicone alkyd enamel, haze gray, FED-STD-595, Color 26270." No mention is made for FS numbers for deck gray, however. Mike Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: But we already knew this! From an Internet hobby site --- "Better than Prozac? Sitting down and working on any craft is soothing and the best antidepressant I know. I think people need to learn that the world will survive if we take two hours a week for ourselves, if we weigh five pounds more, and if the house isn't perfect. And for God's sake, leave the work at work!" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Announcement from W R PRESS Flower Class Corvettes in World War Two by world famous author JOHN LAMBERT has arrived from the printers. I strongly urge every person to buy at least two copies, as one copy will simply not survive the useage, this because of the many and superb drawings that fill the book. Orders are now being shipped to retailers. PS the photos look good as well. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Tom Detweiler Subject: FS: 1/720 Revell Missouris Attention SMMLies: This as a result of a impulse E-bay buy, thought I should mention it: (Also if you are interested I have Revell models of the US Missouri Battleship in 1/720 scale still factory sealed in the shrink wrap. This is a full hull model, unassembled, and is 14 -11/16 inch long when completed. I am asking $10 each for them. Let me know if you are interested in them as well and I can include in the same box.) Please contact Glenn directly at: glennde@bellsouth.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Y2K IPMS/USA Nationals For those of you who will be attending the Y2K Nats. the new revised rules are now posted on the IPMS Dallas NCT web site at: http://ipmsnct.org/cat.html Some important changes have been made to the conversion categories. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Victor Baca Subject: NEWS FROM MODEL SHIP JOURNAL MODEL SHIP JOURNAL UPDATE: Here is a partial sample of our coverage for 2000--The premier Issue Zero ships on 15 June. PLANS, REVIEWS & HISTORICAL FEATURES: The Floating Drydock's latest TFW series plan, USS ATLANTA (CLAA-51) in 1/96th scale by Tom Walkowiak. Plans from the nation's leading museums, archives and commercial sources? how to find them and access their collections. We will also feature plans from around the world. A history of German Naval torpedo boats of WWII by Steve Wiper of Classic Warships. The Polish frigate ORP KASZUB, Polish engineer Jacek Krewzinski's plans and photos. TUGBOAT PLAN/PHOTO FEATURES: The ATRs of WWII, U.S. Army Tugs of WWII, U.S. Naval YTM Harbor Tugs. We'll also feature USCG Tugs from 65' and 140' icebreaking units to the oceangoing rescue tugs YOCONA, CHEROKEE and ALEX HALEY. We are also working on a plan and photo feature of Crowley Maritime's SEA VICTORY, the salvage ship that assisted the grounded freighter NEW CARISSA and towed the USS MISSOURI across the Pacific to her new site at Pearl harbor. SHIP OF THE QUARTER: A full-page ship photo; something different in each issue. NEW PRODUCT REVIEWS: We review the latest offerings from the modeling industry in plastic, resin and fiberglass. And we look at books, tools, parts and accessories. Book reviews cover new editions as well as books on the used market. SHIP MODELS, BALANCED COVERAGE IN ALL AREAS: Don Preuil's detailed scratchbuilt U.S. Naval ship models in 1/16th scale. The Naval ship models of Gibbs & Cox: Shipyard models built in an age when craftsmanship was king. Scratchbuilding the USCGC WESTWIND (WAGB 281). An icebreaker in 1/350th scale. Scratchbuilding the modern container freighter EVER VALIANT. Super Detailing Heller's 1/200th scale research ship LE SUROIT. Regular features on resin and metal kit models. Many of these resin kit features will show a photo of the actual ship. Scales include 1/350th, 1/700th and 1/1250th. Ships of the USN: 1960s & 70s: We'll bring models from this often-overlooked era in USN history. First up: The USS ASHEVILLE (PG-84) class gunboat with an original plan set reproduced from the actual 1/48th scale print used to build the prototype. Subscriptions for Model Ship Journal are available by calling (toll free) 877-371-0290 or via e-mail: modelships@earthlink.net. Subscriptions are $30.00 for one year (4 issues) or $58.00 two years. Outside U.S. subscriptions are: $45.00 U.S.D. Checks or money orders are acceptable, mail to: Photomarine Archives MODEL SHIP JOURNAL P.O. Box 28516 Bellingham, WA 98228-0516 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Kenneth H. Goldman" Subject: Navismagazine.com - MARCH 2000 ISSUE Hi all, Here's what's coming in the March 2000 issue of Navismagazine. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER http://www.wman.com/~khgold/ http://www.navismagazine.com Navismagazine.com - MARCH 2000 ISSUE FEATURES - THE WAR IN THE MEDITERRANEAN, AN AERO-NAVAL PERSPECTIVE - PART 1 - HALIFAX-CLASS FRIGATE WALK-AROUND - MI-14 PL/PS "HAZE-A" WALK-AROUND - TECHNIQUE 4: BUILDING A RESIN SHIP - NORTH SEA PIRATE: 1/48 FAA F4U-1D CORSAIR - HMS WARSPITE IN 1/700 SCALE - AUSTRIA'S FIGHTER: 1/48 AVIATIK D.I - HMS BARHAM IN 1/700 SCALE - DESERT ARROW: 1/72 FIAT G.50 BIS - 1/400 DIORAMA: RS SCIRE' LOADING ASSAULT CRAFT - JAPAN'S JET ATTACKER: NAKAJIMA KIKKA IN 1/72 - 1/700 DIORAMA: IJN NAVAL BASE COLUMNS: - MODEL SHOWCASE 1/48 F3F-1 * 1/48 GOTHA * 1/48 MIG-15 * 1/72 F-86F * 1/96 HMS COSSACK * 1/96 BLUENOSE * 1/700 IJN TAIHO * 1/700 IJN SUBCHASER - PHOTO-HISTORY (AIR): INTERWAR FAA AIRCRAFT - PHOTO-HISTORY (SHIPS): KAIBOKAN - ON THE MARKET - New kit and aftermarket product releases - TASK FORCES: OPERATION BAYTOWN - VIRTUAL PLACES: 12 O' CLOCK HIGH - REVIEW - INDUSTRY NEWS - NAVAL RECONNAISSANCE - NEW BOOKS - LETTERS - BULLETIN BOARD GAMES: (win great prizes: kits, books, detail sets etc.) - TRIVIA - MYSTERY PHOTO (AIR) - MYSTERY PHOTO (SHIPS) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://www.smml.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume