Subject: SMML VOL 906 Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 22:52:14 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: USCG subject kit wishes 2: Re: USCG subject kit wishes 3: Re: Down Periscope 4: Re: Down Periscope 5: Re: Taiho 10cm turrets 6: Re: USS Permit/Thresher class SSNs plans 7: Re: down periscope 8: Re: On Line kit build? 9: Thanks 10: Re: 20 mm tripod mounts 11: Re: Mile long ship 12: USCG Subject Wish List 13: USCG 1/350 scale subjects 14: Online Kit Build - some comments 15: U-571 Movie 16: Re: 1/96 Turtle instructions 17: Down Periscope 18: scratch building - a mile at a time 19: Morbid Update 20: Re: Down Periscope 21: Re: Down Periscope 22: Re: Thresher/Permit sails 23: Re: Freedom Ship 24: Re: Down Periscope 25: Re: Down Periscope 26: Re: Down Periscope 27: PH "val" 28: Re: Down Periscope 29: Two 1/700 Scale Models of Iowa Class U.S. Navy Battlewagons. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMMLcon Infomation & posts 1: SMMLcon 2: SMMLCon 2000 3: SMMLCon Thanks 4: SMMLCon - A Great Time 5: SMMLcon #1 6: Model Contest Winners 7: Re: SMMLCON 8: SMML Con 2000 9: SMML con -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Inquiry 2: new shipmodel kits -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Al Salas Subject: USCG subject kit wishes Duane, We've chatted about this before, but since you asked. I would like to see a Lake class cutter. Itasca has history as she was heavily involved with the Amelia Earhart search and conducted trips to the Bearing Sea and South America. She along with her sisters were "loaned" to England to serve as convoy escorts and served with distinction. I also have plans and photos, some in color, which I could loan you for the project. Allan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Mark Shannon" Subject: Re: USCG subject kit wishes One that comes right away off the top of my head is the Modoc (1941). Representative of a class of USCG cutters, historically noted as risking being blown out of the water by first the Bismarck, then the Prince of Wales, long serving in rescue and sub-search work during WWII. Etc. Second, one of the Secretary class. Not a lot of knowledge on the USCG, these are just examples that come to mind. Mark. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Matthew Prager Subject: Re: Down Periscope Alan Scheckenbach wrote: >> If anyone else suffered through this can they tell me what class boat was depicted as the hero of this movie? << Alan, The sub in this movie was a BALAO class WWII Fleet submarine. I don't know which was actually used in filming the movie. Matt Prager -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Puckhead93@aol.com Subject: Re: Down Periscope Rick, I'm almost sure that boat is a Gato class from the end of WW2 into the 1950's. I unlike you though found that movie quite hilarious Josh Mayne -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Jon Parshall Subject: Re: Taiho 10cm turrets >> amiya's Taiho comes with Akitzuki class turrets for the 10cm twins. The plans in Jentschura and Model Art both show Oyodo type mounts (open at the back). Is there any hard information either way? << alk to my friend Richard Wolff. He's writing an "Anatomy of the Ship"-like work on Taiho. I've seen a draft; it's *excellent*. He would know the answer to your questions. His email is rrwolff@bpa.gov. Tell him I sent you! jon parshall Imperial Japanese Navy Homepage http://www.combinedfleet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Matthew Prager Subject: Re: USS Permit/Thresher class SSNs plans Michael Thrupp wrote >> Can anyone outthere tell me where I can get (or download?) accurate plans of late (tall sail) USS Thresher / Permit SSNs, please? I will then have no excuse for not starting my vacform. << Mike, Norman Friedman's U.S. SUBMARINES SINCE 1945 is an excellent resource. Lots of tech data and very good drawings. Matt Prager -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Shirley Sachsen Subject: Re: down periscope >> Anyway enough soapboxing and to the question. If anyone else suffered through this can they tell me what class boat was depicted as the hero of this movie? << Agreed, the movie stank, but the Pampanito got an engine running out of the deal, though the Navy took her screws... Pampanito is a Balao class Fleet Sub, and for more info check out this site: http:\\www.maritime.org/pamphome.htm s -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Nathan Pettigrew Subject: Re: On Line kit build? Chris, I think that's a great idea. The Tamiya 1/350 Fletcher might be a good choice, since it has lots of detail potential and is relatively inexpensive. I wouldn't mind seeing something like this for a scratch built model, too. Thanks, Nathan Pettigrew -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Richard Sherer" Subject: Thanks Hello Gang: I usually just keep quiet and learn from this list, but I wanted to give a public thank you to Jon and Ted over at Commander Models. I was in Rochester on business recently and asked if I could drop by to purchase some kits and get a quick tour. Ted Paris not only gave me an extensive tour, he also let me peek into kits and check out all that resin! It has been said before, but for those of you who are new to resin like me, or who have never tried to build a resin kit.... trust me the cost of these kits is nothing compared to the amount of work that goes into producing them. I was thoroughly impressed. Ted even let me check out the hull for the 1/160 PC that they will release soon. Anyone looking fro a break from the battleships and carriers will find this a great kit. You can really get your hands on this one! So, once again, a big THANKS to Jon and Ted for all my new resin and for going out of their way to show me around. Jay Sherer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: eddp Subject: Re: 20 mm tripod mounts >> I am currently working on BWN's USS Farenholt, and included in the kit are two sorts of mounts for the 20mm guns. One being the standard resin pedestal, and the other PE brass tripod mounts. I have only seen pictures of 20mm's on the solid pedestals. How common were these tripod mounts << The 20mm Pedestal mount (Mk 4) was the original method of mounting the gun. The central column of the mount could be cranked up and down for high-angle fire, and a shield was mounted in front of the gun, attached to the traversing portion of the mount. As an attempt to simplify the mount, and save weight as more AA guns were added to ships, the tripod mount developed. This mount was about the same height as the Mk 4 (when the Mk 4's column was not extended) and dispensed with the adjustable height feature. I don't know the Mk of this mount (maybe Mk 14?). During the time this mount was in use, the sights for the Oerlikon were changed from the "Ring and bead" to a computing sight (visible as a lrge box mounted where the bead was.) As the air threat increased ("Kamikazes"), the single mount was replaced by a twin mount (Mk 24), also a tripod with the computing sight. Like Rusty, I can't recall ever seeing a pedestal mount on a sub, but they were the original stern weapons on PTs. Later, Oerlikons were mounted on the bows of the PTs, and these were on tripod mounts. Some photos show a short legged tripod with a large, central column that appears to have the elevating mechanism of the Mk 4. I suspect these are field modifications, as I have never seen them on any other ships. Other than the original stern mounts, PTs did not shields on their 20mms. Edd Pflum -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "James Johnson" Subject: Re: Mile long ship This reminds me of the study that considered using an iceberg as a floating airfield. IIRC, there were to be power plants to move it (slowly) and refrigeration units to keep it from melting to fast. It may have been a WW2 project or a little later. Would have made for an interesting model if it had been done. I can hear it now, "That is not accurate for the period you are representing, that piece calved off 6 months before." Speaking of icebergs, I was at a model RC boat regatta some 30 years ago. One fellow had a nice Titanic in maybe 1/196 scale and he also had a RC iceberg. It was a raft covered with Styrofoam. It had a receiver that operated on a different freq. than the ship. Looked realistic from 100 feet away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Edward F Grune" Subject: USCG Subject Wish List Hey Duane: The answer is obvious, its your own personal favorite - the DUANE (WPG-33). The members of the Secretary class were long-lived seeing action in both the Atlantic and Pacific theatres of operation and served into the '80s. Another choice in 1/350 could be a Hamilton class High Endurance Cutter. Its a smart-looking craft. The light Patrol Craft classes will tend to get quite small in 1/350 scale. Speaking of light USCG craft, do you or anyone else on this list have a set of lines & plans for a Boston Whaler-type port security boat. I've often thought of doing one in 1/35 scale to match up with the Pibber and LSSC. Ed Mansfield, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Felix Bustelo" Subject: USCG 1/350 scale subjects Duane, As I mentioned to you at the SMMLCon, I would love to see a kit of the buoy tender Hornbeam or a ship in that class. My father-in-law served on her out of Woods Hole in the early 1950s. After that, just about any subject would be great. Felix Bustelo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Edward F Grune" Subject: Online Kit Build - some comments Two years back, we (SMML) tried this with the Fletcher kit build for the 1999 IPMS Nationals. The goal was to flood the ship category and possibly force a split. There were several reasons for this ship's selection. They include (if I remember correctly): 1) There were 5 or 6 different kit manufacturers available. We're not tied to one manufacturer's offerings. 2) These Fletcher kits were generally less expensive than a larger BB or CV. Detail sets were also less expensive. 3) There are many documented subjects available. 4) It was a smaller kit (i.e. smaller than a battleship) and would not require an inordinate amount of work to complete. This meant that you could still do both a "major" piece and do the Fletcher. 5) The choice of the Fletcher would give the judges a simple split criteria - Fletchers and everything else. 6) Easy traveling. I rode in the airplane with my kits under the seat. A larger subject has to be packed to travel differently. There was discussion when we kicked off the Fletcher project about trying to do something bigger - perhaps a group entry where people signed up to do a specific ship and period. There was talk of doing the Aircraft Carriers of WWII. If we pulled off the Fletcher project we'd try the carriers. After much discussion of the various kit options the Fletcher project got underway. Tom Harrison of Tom's Modelworks did support the project by making his detroyer brass set available. There were periodic reminders through the year, asking how things were going. I was disappointed when there were only 5 or 6 Fletchers on the table in Orlando - and I brought 2 of them. There was insufficient numbers to justify a split. If we were to do this project we'd a dynamic personality in this group who could cajole, threaten, urge the participants to work on the project and to get it done. (Sort of like the guy who runs your local club's project.) I don't see that happening here (in my opinion) Ed Mansfield, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: U-571 Movie I went with my wife, and a fellow ship modeler, to see the latest U-boat movie yesterday, and I must say, we all enjoyed it. We all knew of the historical inaccuracies, but were impressed with the submarines used in this movie. I later saw a story on Entertainment Tonight about how the subs were made up of full size mockups and most of the filming was in the Mediterranean near Italy. The only part I thought was bad about the whole movie was the fact that they tried to pass of some sort of smaller vessel, with turret mockups, as a destroyer. I thought they just should have called it a sub chaser or a torpedo boat and not used those funky turrets. I do recommend this movie as entertainment. Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: Burl Burlingame / Pacific Monograph Subject: Re: 1/96 Turtle instructions You can get a JPG of the Turtle instructions via the kit's web site: http://www.pacifichistory.com/PRODUCTSFILE/96THFILE/TURTLE.HTML a hui ho Burl Pacific Monograph, 1124 Kahili Street, Kailua HI 96734 808-263-6087 buzz@aloha.net A historical interpretation company. Visit our web site at http://www.PacificHistory.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: cfrieden@calpoly.edu Subject: Down Periscope Down Periscope features the USS Pampanito, a Balao class sub that is a museum ship in San Francisco. They rigged the Pampanito up with a towing harness and filmed the underway scenes outside of the bay. It was the first time Pampanito had left the bay since the end of WWII. Reserve fleet scenes were filmed in Suisun Bay, with the USS Hornet visible in one shot. Most interiors were done on a set, but a few were shot abourd Pampanito. I believe filming took about a week, but as I recall Pampanito stayed in her "USS Stingray" paint for quite a while. I love watching this film, if only to see the Pampanito underway! Hope this helps, Chris Friedenbach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: Kurt Van Dahm Subject: scratch building - a mile at a time I buy sheet styreen in 4' x 8' sheets all the time, so if you get serious about building this thing let me know and I'll give you my source for the styreen! :) LOL Kurt Van Dahm Westmont, IL NRG member -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: Rick Heinbaugh Subject: Morbid Update Notes from the latest "Navy Times" - Changes in the Fleet: WORDEN (CG 18): Scheduled to be sunk as a live-fire target June 17 BUCHANAN (DDG 14): Scheduled to be sunk as an artificial reef June 13 RAMSEY (FFG 2) Scheduled to be sunk as a target June 15. Originally sold for conversion into a floating power plant, but the contract was terminated by the government for default March 12, 1999. CLARK (FFG 11) Decommissioned and transferred to Poland March 15. Renamed PULASKI (272) JOHN A. MOORE (FFG 19) To be decommissioned and transferred to Turkey June 30 Last three "normal" STURGEON class - HAWKBILL (SSN 666), WILLIAM H. BATES (SSN 680)& L. MENDEL RIVERS (SSN 686) To be decomm'd March 15, June 5 & 30 Nov, respectively. To be recycled at Bremerton. Special operations submarine PARCHE (SSN 683) is final STURGEON in commission. ! Naw, no cheezy poofs for me, either. Rick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Down Periscope Alan Scheckenbach writes: >> Anyway enough soapboxing and to the question. If anyone else suffered through this can they tell me what class boat was depicted as the hero of this movie? << Alan, I can do you one better than that - the sub in question is the USS Pampanito (SS-383) a museum submarine preserved in San Francisco. By happenstance, I was on the Golden Gate Bridge the day they towed her out to film the at sea portions of the film - by the way, she was towed throughout that movie, and the tow rope removed digitally. At the time, I had no idea what was going on, as she was painted up for the movie, and did not look like the Pampanito when she went underneath me. Later, I learned what had happened. By the way, whatever you might think of a particular movie, it is generally very good for the ship/boat in question to be featured in it. Hollywood has a lot of money to spread around, and it is one way for the museum vessels to get some extra funding. Kurt SeaPhoto Maritime Photography http://members.aol.com/SeaPhoto/index.html Warship Models Underway http://members.aol.com/wmunderway/home.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Down Periscope >> Anyway enough soapboxing and to the question. If anyone else suffered through this can they tell me what class boat was depicted as the hero of this movie? << Alan, You're right, awful film; had to watch "Das Boot" twice to wash the toxins from my system. Anyhow, the sub was none other than the USS Pampanito, a Balao class boat. She got a drydocking and maintainance out of the deal. Tom Dougherty Hey Tom, As if you need any excuse to watch Das Boot ;->. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Thresher/Permit sails >> Can anyone outthere tell me where I can get (or download?) accurate plans of late (tall sail) USS Thresher / Permit SSNs, please? I will then have no excuse for not starting my vacform. << Mike- Don't know of a website, but I may have some of those plans around. I know I have the short sail versions, but need to hunt around to see if I have the latter, tall sails. Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "William Aldorfer" Subject: Re: Freedom Ship If curiosity is killing you, you can board at: http://www.freedomship.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: Allan and Crystal Plumb Subject: Re: Down Periscope >> I had the misfortune to watch a movie the other night named "Down Periscope". Truly awful [...] << Umm? From an accuracy point of view it was awful, but it was intended to be humourous, not correct. It did that, IMO. It's listed under "slapstick comedies", not documentaries. >> It seems that the Oberon and Russian Foxtrots class diesels and maybe even the Collins class, when they get working properly, << Maybe, after they learn to float right-side-up. :-) >> are top notch killers and I'm sure that the US must have operational diesels as well. << Yes. One 38-year-old unarmed research submarine, the Dolphin. All other navies, beware. >> If anyone else suffered through this can they tell me what class boat was depicted as the hero of this movie? << A generic rust-laden WWII era fleet boat, dunno where they got it. Gato/Balao presumably, I don't remember it well enough to determine how much it was modified before somebody left it to rust. Allan Plumb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: louellet@uism.bu.edu Subject: Re: Down Periscope Alan Scheckenbach wrote: >> I had the misfortune to watch a movie the other night named "Down Periscope". Truly awful but it did have an interesting old diesel sub, which of course won the day against the more modern nuclear subs. << Down Periscope is an intentional comedic piece of fiction. I've seen it around 15 times and still laugh every time. (We show it a lot for Scout overnights on SALEM). I see it as a comedy that just so happens to take place on a Navy submarine. >> Personally I found it irritating that driving a diesel was seen as being second rate compared to steering a nuclear sub. It seems that the Oberon and Russian Foxtrots class diesels and maybe even the Collins class, when they get working properly, are top notch killers and I'm sure that the US must have operational diesels as well. << The US has no operational diesel subs (at least none that they tell us about). There are one or two still in service, but only as passive sonar targets. It would be 'second rate' to take command of a 50 year old totally obsolete sub, at least in the US Navy. >> Anyway enough soapboxing and to the question. If anyone else suffered through this can they tell me what class boat was depicted as the hero of this movie? << The diesel sub used in the movie is the USS Pampanito (SS 383) berthed in San Francisco as a museum ship. She is a World War II Balao class Fleet submarine See the web site: http://www.maritime.org/pamphome.htm Larry Ouellette Volunteer, USS Salem (CA 139) United States Naval Shipbuilding Museum Quincy, Massachusetts, USA http://www.uss-salem.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: James Corley Subject: Re: Down Periscope No diesels in our fleet, Rickover and his boys have not only guaranteed there will not be a non-nuke in the US fleet, it is now a matter of law that non-nukes cannot be built for export in US shipyards ... I guess a real budget crisis could change this, but I don't see it coming anytime soon. Too bad, as I have heard from other P-3 types that the new HK subs are kinda hard to hear ... don't get that convenient Tom Clancy stuff in the fleet! JZ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: James Corley Subject: PH "val" Had not heard that the pilot was Fred Haise, seem like the media would have picked up on that. Also,IIRC, the Val was converted from a BT-11, as the BT-13 became the Kate. Logical, since the BT-11 had fixed gear ... just add wheel pants. The BT-13 has a long canopy similar to the Kate. The SNJ (AT-6 for you non-naval types) became the Zero, for the most part. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Robert Vancel Subject: Re: Down Periscope Wow. I honestly can't recall the name of the sub save for the fact that you really only got to see it from one side (apparently the other side had either been damaged early on or somesuch) and the 'running at speed' shots were staged. The sub was towed by another vessel just off-camera. Speaking of subs, I believe I asked a question about footage of a sunken sub shown on JAG last Tuesday (for you folks not in the US, JAG is a weekly program about the Judge Advocate General's corps.). The concept of the episode was an alleged coverup about the Pearl Harbor raid (oh.... really?). The ship in the show was the U.S.S. Dolphin and a salvage team had found her. The episode showed real video of a sunken WWII sub. My question was, what is the name of the sub in the footage? Robert "Hollywood" Vancel/nWMo Al Team # 78 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: "NICK & JOY ROGERS" Subject: Two 1/700 Scale Models of Iowa Class U.S. Navy Battlewagons. Where can the 1/720 scale Revell U.S.S. New Jersey model of her 1980's configuration be obtained? Long out of production I fear? (I have only heard it mentioned in the brilliant Rajendra's list of SHIP KIT REVIEWS): http://www.quuxuum.org/rajens_list/rajen.html 2. The Fujimi 1/700 scale kits of U.S.S.'s Iowa,New Jersey and Missouri are O.K. but dated.I have heard on the rumour mill that these kits may soon be reworked/improved.Any recent news on this? 3. Iowa class battleships have just been suggested as a subject for a `ON-LINE KIT BULDING' feature for SMML.In preference to Fletcher class destroyers.Great idea.Count me in. Not so fine if a super new kit appears mid year.Would we all be spitting blood? Rather like me buying the Fujimi 1/700 scale IJN Tone heavy cruiser model.Then only to discover Aoshima have issued a greatly more accurate Tone kit.I was not best pleased. Nick Rogers, New Zealand. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMMLcon Infomation & posts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Keith Butterley Subject: SMMLcon Hi Group, I want to wish a BIG Bravo Zulu to the USS Salem crew Mr.'s Frohock, Oulette, Sheridan et al. for showing myself and the others a great time. It was truly a wonderful event. To the best of my knowledge there were no CC bikini sighting's :-( So where and when is it next year? Keith Butterley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Felix Bustelo" Subject: SMMLCon 2000 My wife and I would like to thank the organizers of the event for all of their hard work and time - take a bow gentlemen. We only went for one day, Sunday, and you could say it was a whirlwind trip. We left our home on Long Island at 5:30 AM and made it to the Salem in just under 4 hours (with a 20 minute rest stop in between). and drove home that afternoon but took the Bridgeport/Port Jefferson ferry to give the car and ourselves a rest. Circumstances beyond our control prevented us from attending the full event, but seeing as this was an excellent opportunity to meet some fellow SMMLers and to see a beautiful ship from stem to stern, it was worth the trip. We didn't really get to chat with my fellow SMMLers for too long, but it was great to meet everyone and to see some beautiful models. Felix & Loriann Bustelo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "James Kloek" Subject: SMMLCon Thanks I just wanted to add my voice to those thanking John, Larry, John, et. al. who organized and held SMMLCon. I enjoyed it immensely, and my vote is to do it again. The Salem (and Boston) was a great place to have it. It was a real pleasure to meet a lot of people and put faces to the names who have been on the List. It is easy for a lot of us to generate a lot of good ideas, but things quickly degenerate to work when it comes to turning a good idea into reality, and you guys did a superb job of putting the whole thing together. I really appreciate the work that you did to make it happen. Thanks. Jim Kloek -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: AJOWENS@aol.com Subject: SMMLCon - A Great Time Another Well Done! to John Frohock and everyone else on the team who put this event together - Everything was first class, the site, the presentations and the people especially! I greatly enjoyed it! It was a pleasure to get to put faces to some of the names and the great work of some of the very talented people here. I took a number of photographs and have sent Mike a zip file of some of them (hopefully I didn't blow up his email with the size of the file!). Work kept me from being able to take part in the tours on Friday but I was determined to be there first thing Saturday so I arrived around 09:30 complete with my 1/350 IS 4-piper, 1/700 Iowa and Rodney. I soon hooked up with John Sheridan who showed me where to set up and some of his work - thanks John for not laughing me off the ship! I was extremely impressed with the quality of all the entries. It was like going from Jr High football to the NFL, you guys are really in a class of your own! More of the group was arriving and soon we went up to the wardroom to begin the presentations. All the speakers were great and very entertaining, Al Ross covered small combatants, John Snyder on camouflage paint, Duane Fowler gave a demonstration of how he creates his fabulous decals and the ALPS printer but John Lambert's talk on the 'Dreaded Flower Class Corvettes' was my favourite. He presented a great amount of information with a terrific dose of humour included, I learned a lot and laughed along the way! After the seminars, most people took tours of the ship and it must also be said that the volunteer guides were great as well. Many of them had actually served on the Salem while she was active and gave terrific first-hand stories. We went through as much as possible from the bilges to the bridge. Whilst we were listening to the speakers the public was voting on our models and the local paper (Quincy Patriot Ledger) was by as well. Returning on Sunday, they interviewed Caroline Carter, myself and a few other folks as well. The article ran in today's edition and I'd be happy to forward a photocopy of the clipping to anyone who'd like it. Again, the weekend was a pleasure and I really enjoyed meeting everyone who came! Thanks to everyone who came and I hope we do it again! A.J. Owens -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "John Sheridan" Subject: SMMLcon #1 I would like to take a moment to personally thank all of those who attended the first-ever SMMLcon onboard the USS Salem. I had a wonderful time meeting all of you in person, and I hope you all enjoyed yourselves as much as I did. The models on display were fantastic to look at. The show was a big success in my humble opinion. Now, I would like to personally thank the following by name: John Frohock: To whom the convention would not have taken place without his presence. Sorry for the extra Gray hairs we all gave you on saturday John. Larry Ouellette: For his unearthly bookkeeping of the funds. You could have a fine career as a money laundrier. Harold Lincoln: For keeping Larry from losing his mind trying to keep the books in the black. Fritz Koopman: For getting the Dinner speaker to show-up on time. (Must have something to do with anything labeled: Constitution.) The USS Salem (CA-139): For just being there for us to hold the convention. Duane Fowler: For showing us all that making decals is not so hard after all and being the first to have a ALPS portable printer. John Snyder: For proving that I am not the only raving ship camouflage fanatic. Al Ross: Who knew that P.T. Boats could be that interesting ? John Lambert: For finally running out of Flower Class corvette drawings (he did threaten to bring more next time!). Caroline Carter: For being the only member to wear the official SMML T-shirt (and yes, some of us did ask where the Bikini is!) Jim Corley: For vividly pointing out every single flaw in my USS Salem model. The Gang from Toronto: For encouraging Jim Corley to point out all of the flaws in my model. Wendy Hughes: For enduring being Mrs. Hughes for 1 day (Blame John Frohock!). Robert Lockie: For the last time, there is no Lumber Cartel (tinlc) ! Again, thank-you all for coming to the convention. (Pssst! Duane Fowler suggested the USS Hornet in San Francisco for SMMLcon #2) John Sheridan www.shipcamouflage.com I am not Unit# 631 of the Lumber Cartel (tinlc) If there were a Lumber Cartel, the last place on earth I would look for it would be: http://come.to/the.lumber.cartel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "John Sheridan" Subject: Model Contest Winners >> The museum's vistors were asked to vote on their favorite model. The winner was Gary Kingzett's absolutly gorgeous model of the USS Oregon. Second place went to John Sheridan's USS Salem, third was Charlie Parker's IJN Kirishima. << I would like to take this time to thank all of you who I strong-armed^H^H^H errrr, voted for my model to win second-place at the first annual SMMLcon. (I just know Jim Corley will now step forward and point out in great detail every flaw in my model ) John Sheridan www.shipcamouflage.com I am not Unit# 631 of the Lumber Cartel (tinlc) If there were a Lumber Cartel, the last place on earth I would look for it would be: http://come.to/the.lumber.cartel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: ALROSS2@aol.com Subject: Re: SMMLCON Thanks for the opportunity to do a presentation at SMMLCON1. I had a great time and really enjoyed "putting faces to names" and getting to know folks. Al Ross -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: louellet@uism.bu.edu Subject: SMML Con 2000 Just some random thoughts about SMMLCon 2000: Thanks to all who came to SMMLCon 2000 aboard the USS Salem. Thank you also to my fellow organizers for your hard work. I echo John Frohock's comments about the quality of the 40+ models on display. If anyone needs a permanent home for their models ... see John, he'll be glad to give them a new home. 8-> All the ships and boats on display were very well done, but I will point out a few that stuck in my mind. John Rule's 1/700 Japanese subs and carrier ... one sub's aircraft had a clear canopy! ... Harold Lincoln's scratch built UK and South African ocean liners ... Gary Kingzett's Oregon, and 'camouflage experiment' (#1 for humor) ... Charlie Parker's Japanese battleship ... Brad Chaucer's Civil War monitors ... that great Type XXI U-Boat ... the Coast Guard boat repair diorama Fritz' in-progress Fletcher and Darren Scannell's out-of-box and in-progress super-detailing of an US cruiser ... many other highly detailed 1/700 scale ships and subs (or subs and targets) I can honestly say there wasn't a bad model on display. Thank you to Al Ross, John Lambert, John Synder, and Duane Fowler for your very informative presentations. Thanks to the interim director who lifted the commercial sales ban so Caroline John S., John L., James, Duane, and Keith could sell their wares. Anyone want to host the 2nd annual SMMLCon? The most popular suggestions were here in Quincy again, or San Francisco (USS Hornet). Larry Ouellette Volunteer, USS Salem (CA 139) Quincy, Massachusetts, USA http://www.uss-salem-org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: James Corley Subject: SMML con This was a great weekend, saw several old friends and made new ones. Now if we can just decide if/when/where to do it next year. JZ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Mktprtners@aol.com Subject: Inquiry We are a small marketing/public relations firm working with a large hotel/conference center in Bremerton, Washington. The hotel is being re-done with a nautical theme and we are interested in displaying models of a variety of ships in the lobby. Do you know of anyone interested in displaying their work? It would be in a secured case, and we would be interested in nearly any type of ship model. Because the hotel is located near the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard and the Bangor Submarine Base, there is significant interest in all types of ships. Thank you for sharing this information with your members. Wendy Dore The Marketing Partners, Inc. 14819 SE 62nd Ct., Bellevue, WA 98006 (425) 644-4331 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Lars Zander Subject: new shipmodel kits To all modelers around, we have some very interesting new kits in 1/72 and 1/32 scale. They are strictly limited to 10 (100 1/32 scale) pieces. All kits come with carbone hulls and lasercutted suoerstructures. Most fittings are made out of brass or steel. We avoid to use plastic.....The following models are available: USS HUE CITY Ticonderoga class AEGIS cruiser 1/72 scale SS Okrlenny russian destrocer Sovremenny class 1/72 scale F 215 german frigate Brandenburg class 1/72 scale MC 520 Piyranha russian midget spy submarine 1/32 scale If you like to have further information, please visit our website at: http://www.baymo.de Thanks for your attention, best regards, Lars Zander -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://www.smml.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume