Subject: SMML VOL 909 Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:47:28 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: JAG Forest Sherman 2: Enterprise rumors 3: U47 - Net Cutters or Not? 4: Re: PT-109 5: Re: 20 mm tripod mounts 6: Concrete Liberty Ship 7: EASTWIND 8: Re: USS ALBANY (CG 10) 9: Re: Concrete Liberty Ship 10: Re: Liberty Ships, concrete 11: Op sail 2000 12: Re: Baymo kits 13: New shipmodeller 14: Re: Kiev 15: Re: Treaty Battleships 16: Eastwind 17: Re: PT-109 18: Re: BAYMO Kits 19: Re: Treaty Battleships 20: Re: Treaty Battleships 21: Re: U-571 22: S-Boats SIG 23: Re: The Judge is wrong again! 24: Nimitz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMMLcon Infomation & posts 1: SMMLie Con 2001 2: Re: SMMLCon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: SoonerCon 2000 this weekend 2: USS Cabot Update 3: ICM KONIG and GROSSER KURFURST KITS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: JAG Forest Sherman Gimme the Forest Sherman. I'll bring my money to the Nats. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Enterprise rumors Heard an interesting rumor the other day. I heard from someone who would know that Tom's Modelworks is working on a hangar deck for the 1/350 scale Enterprise kit. I also heard that they are doing a photo etch set for the 1/350 A/C as well. Hope that's true. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Alan Simon Subject: U47 - Net Cutters or Not? Building 1/125 Revell-Germany U47 (Type VIIB), as she appeared at Scapa Flow 10/39. Have inconclusive data on whether or not net cutters were fitted (forward topside and beneath bow). Any help? Thanks. Alan Simon Atlanta, Ga. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: PT191@aol.com Subject: Re: PT-109 To Branko, There aren't many shots of PT-109. Only about 6 in total, and one is just a crew shot. There are a few shots of PT-109 in Frank D. Johnson's UNITED STATES NAVY PT BOATS IN ACTION. These are of her on board a cargo ship being transported to the Canal Zone. The captions indicate that the pictures were taken to show the proper way to tie down a PT boat. Well, at least that was one thing that was done right with the 109. As for the 37mm gun, ... it was a shielded single round breech loading 37mm field piece, with its tires and rims removed - leaving just the axles. It was secured to two 2X4s on the foredeck by ropes. T. Garth Connelly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: PT191@aol.com Subject: Re: 20 mm tripod mounts To EddP, You're right. The 20mms on PTs were NEVER shielded. T. Garth Connelly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: cfrieden@calpoly.edu Subject: Concrete Liberty Ship >> When I was a mere lad, my folks took me to the Jersey coast, specifically Cape May, NJ. I recall a derelict hull laying just off shore, cracked and withstanding the tests of time. I believe it was a cast-concrete attempt at manufacturing a fleet of Liberty ships from non-strategic materials. There may have been a plaque or memorial on the beach... Anyone know anthing more about this subject? The inventor or company? If one wanted to do a scale model historically accurate, what materials would be advisable? Plans? I do know the idea was scrapped along with other WWII "great-ideas", like Churchill's bridge across the Channel scheme. << Are you sure that it was built in WWII? I do not know the identity of the ship you are referring to, but we have a similar ship out here on California’s central coast. The ship is the Palo Alto, and it was built in Oakland at a government shipyard. The Palo Alto is a 7,500-ton oil tanker, measuring 435 feet in length. The Palo Alto was actually designed for use in WWI, but it was not completed until 1919. The ship never entered service, and in 1930 it was beached and turned into an entertainment complex. The complex closed after two years, and the government took over the ship in 1936. Today the Palo Alto is part of Sea Cliff State Beach, and you can still visit the stern by crossing a 600-foot pier. The bow was severed by a storm in the 1960’s. I do not know of any commercially available plans for these ships, but then I haven't done much looking. It would probably be best to build a model of this ship using the same techniques you would use for any other ship. You could coat the exterior with putty to get the concrete texture. Of course, if you are really crazy you could make the model out of plaster, poured into wooden formers just like the real thing… If you have any more questions about these ships, let me know. Hope this helps, Chris Friedenbach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "lcp9" Subject: EASTWIND On the EASTWIND model, The molds are made & I've started casting kits. I'm waiting on the Photo Etch now. The tool is at the etchers, and I hope to have kits ready to ship at the End of May. Regards, David Angelo Loose Cannon Productions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: URUDOFSKY@aol.com Subject: Re: USS ALBANY (CG 10) Those of you contemplating the building of the USS ALBANY should see the stunning 1:48 USN model housed in the Federal Building lobby in Albany, NY! On the other end of the scale is a very well done model at 1:1250 by Optatus. Ulrich Rudofsky -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:13:02 EDT Subject: Re: Concrete Liberty Ship Hi Guys About the concrete liberty ship at Cape May, NJ is called the SS Atlantus. A world war one design she was one of twelve built but was considered impractical after several trips across the Atlantic due to weight and slow speed. In 1926 she was being towed to Cape May, NJ for use as a loading dock for a ferry service, a storm was encountered and the freighter broke loose from the tow running ground Written off as it was beached it become a famous tourist attraction and is slowly deteriorating and sinking into the sand. Sometime in this new century it will be gone. Craig Bennett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Tom Detweiler Subject: Re: Liberty Ships, concrete This if for Don, who asked about the concrete liberty ships: You will probably be deluged with replies, but you can find out all you want by going to Google (search engine) and typing in "liberty ship concrete". There were 30-some contracted for, but only 15 were built and only 12 of them saw actual service. The one which lies off NJ shore is the Atlantus, and there's a site just for her. The Henry J. Kaiser plant out here in Oakland built them. Another lies south of Santa Cruz (Aptos) California, used as a breakwater, and is connected to a public pier, so I walked right out on her a few years back. After 55 years of waves, storms and pounding a lot of her is still there, sunk to just a few feet above the surface. A couple of sites in which you might be interested for further information: try also http://wwwcalgold.com -- this is a website for a locally produced TV program, which had a whole episode devoted to the liberty ships and the Kaiser shipyards. It has its own internal search engine which will lead you to episodes of the program and references to Kaiser and the liberty ships. Now, GUYS, be Vewwwy Vewwwy Caweful that you don't type in http://www.californiagold.org because if you do make this serious mistake you will accidentally get a web page devoted to beautiful nubile young California beach bunnies, and we all know the horror that can occur by accidentally stumbling across something like that! My poor old blood pressure jumped up a few points, I can assure you, when I accidentally stumbled accidentally across this site, accidentally... Tom D in CA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Op sail 2000 Hi Guys I have some news about about Op sail 2000 for the Philadelphia Area. There will be about 40 sailing ships coming but due to the reconstruction of I-95,the building of a new 10 story hotel, and the possible construction of a Disney theme Park Arcade the ships will be at Penn's Landing, Philly Navy Yard, Wiggins Park in Camden by the Aquarium. Also the USS Stout DDG-55 along with US Coast Guard ships such 44ft cutter, 110 ft cutter, buoy tenders, tugs, possible the new 78 ft cutter will be there plus the US Army Corps of Engineer Dredge ship. If you use Penn's Landing the parking areas will be gone due to construction your best bet will be to use the shuttle buses from from Market Street. Gotta go it's dinner time. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Lars Zander" Subject: Re: Baymo kits You really want to know the story ??? Our first step was to order a kit of the TICO at AFP models down under. We payed for two kits and received nothing.......Mike Kear, the owner of AFP models ensured us, that the stuff has been send off....nothing arrived. After having made contacts to the guys of TF 72 , we got to know that AFP models is no longer the distributor of the models created by Allen PEW (APS models) and that he will not any longer host the home page of TF 72 in Australia. Many people ordered kits from AFP models and received nothing else than promises after having payed a total three times cheaper than our kit. After that had happenend, we decided to make our own kit, without copying any part of that which Allen Pew did, and our intention was to create a kit without any compromise. If you would have the chance to ask Allen Pew, by the way, he cancelled the business with AFP models (no way to order any TICO kit....), he would ensure you about our efforts to publish his kits around europe. To cut a long story short, any guy around the the Task Force 72 in Australia cancelled the relationship with Mike Kear of AFP models because of his strange business behaviors. If you would like to order a kit three times cheaper than ours and to receive nothing....just go for it. Just a reminder, only three kits of our overpriced, highly detailed kits are left..... I am very sorry to report in this style, but sometimes things set me very angry. Sure there is simply noone around who knows about his strange story, but be aware of ordering kits from AFP models. If you would like to order a cheaper kit of the TICO, please use the adress and phone number of Allan Pew, who is actually the manufacture of the kits announced by AFP models(APS models) Allan Pew APSmodels phone: 0061 2 4972 5825 Thanks for your kind attention, best regards, Lars -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: LArter3200@aol.com Subject: New shipmodeller I'm new in the ship modeling world. I'm 42 yr's old and have always had a desire to build a ship form (basically) scratch. I've built a few plastic models averaging 24" long, but I want to go beyond the "cheap thrill" catagory. I'm an experienced toy maker (toys of extreme detail ), and have more tools than most carpenters could ever dream of. It's time to put my tools and myself to the real challenge. I don't have any idea where to start though. I think (LOL) I may need a pattern first. GULP, HELP!\ Any, ( and I mean ANY ) help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks for taking the time out to at least reading this note.. Leonard Arter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Robert Mosher" Subject: Re: Kiev The Russian media report that she has been stripped of military equipment and that she will probably end up as scrap metal - after some possible study (though I'm not sure that even that will tell the Chinese anything they don't already know). Robert M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Allan and Crystal Plumb Subject: Re: Treaty Battleships >> I think it would be kind of neat to do a model of each class of Treaty battleships (those designed and built under the Washington and London Naval treaties), or at least all those by the allies. << Why restrict yourself to the Allies? Broaden your horizons. >> My chosen scale is 1/350 and I have the Nelson, KGV, Washington (NC class) and Massachusetts (SD class). << I have Nelson (600), PoW (350), Washington (570), no SD yet, Missouri (350), Jean Bart (400), Strasbourg (400), Yamato (350), Gniesenau (400), Scheer (400), and Tirpitz (350). No Littorio. I want Lion and Montana! (For extra credit, guess how many built and how many still in the box.) (Easy!!! NONE ;-). Shane) >> I know Heller makes a 1/400 (I'm willing to go there) Richelieu, but don't know of any Dunkerque models out there. Am I missing one? Considering that those ships (the Dunkerques) were never really finished, do you all think they should count? << Urrk? The Dunkerque (that looks wrong somehow) and Strasbourg were built _before_ the Richelieu and Jean Bart (and I'd like a Gascogne, please). Heller makes both, I have Strasbourg. _There's_ one to stump all the people who've seen oodles of Iowas. (Not us SMMLies, of course, but Them.) So to answer your original question, yes, they count. Allan Plumb (I like battlecruisers even more than battleships - so incredibly much money spent for so little gain. I'd really really like a Courageous, my candidate for the silliest battlecruiser, and don't tell me "Large Light Cruiser", thank you very much, I know a battlecruiser when I see one. :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "hugh1lottie2" Subject: Eastwind The Eastwind is nearly ready for release, waiting for brass and decals along with finishing instructions. The ship is circa '44 with twin mounts forward and aft and a Gruman Duck behind the stack. Look for the extra anchor on the bow. Probably hit the shelves in time for IPMS Dallas. Hugh -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Minadmiral@aol.com Subject: Re: PT-109 >> I am looking for photographs of PT-109 as well as the 37mm gun that was used on the Foc'le. I am building the Revell kit for my mother-in-law who is a big JFK nut for Christmas. << Hi; The relevant source was loaned out and never returned. But as I recall it the 109 did not have the ex-aircraft (P-39) gun. It had a 37mm Army anti-tank gun bolted down just forward of the superstructure, without the wheels, I believe. At least that is how we were going to do our model. Remember the large balsa kit about 25 years ago?? Chuck Duggie WoodenWalls Listmeister -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Lars Zander" Subject: Re: BAYMO Kits Dear Dave, our intention is to enable the modeler to built a museum standard model without having any milling machine or drilling machine at his own workshop. To use a carbon hull does not make the kit more expencive, but more strong...... Maybe some parts are not necessary in the kit, but please tell me any manufacture where you will receive about 4500 parts for nearly 5400,-DM..........???? To use steel decks (it is stainless V2A steel, so it will sure not rost like the real thing) makes sence,because it is the best material for laser cutting...! Thanks for your private e-mail to me which explains your way of thinking and I understand that it is right to make such comments. we will take is as it is, just a critic, but it will not change our mind in doing our high quality models. Best regards, Lars -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Re: Treaty Battleships Hi Michael If you mean the Dunkerque and Strasbourg, yes they were built. Heller did a 1/400 model of either of them or both of them. You might also want to include the Mutsu (which was due to be discontinued under treaty regulations but because the money to build her had been collected by Japanese school children was allowed to continue). Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Derek Wakefield Subject: Re: Treaty Battleships Michael... Both Dunkerques were completed before WWII (Dunkerque commissioned '37, Strasbourg commissioned '38), so they definitely count. The Richelieu's were the class that were not all completed before the outbreak of the war (Richelieu completed Nov 43 in New York, Jean Bart not completed until 51/52, Clemenceau never completed). I don't know if I would classify them as Treaty ships though because their design was in part influenced by the Anglo-German Naval Treaty and the 1938 escalator clause to the 1936 London Treaty. As such their standard displacement exceeded the Washington/London Treaty limits somewhat. Of course...all Treaty BBs did that to a certain extent. It'll be interesting to hear what the others here on the list have to say about this (as the political quagmire that existed at the time these ships were designed and built makes it hard to figure how to classify them). Of course, it's really hard not to want to include a Richelieu as part of that collection. I really need to break down and find that Heller Jean Bart (what a beautiful behemouth). Go Navy! _|_o_|_ Derek "Tiger" (/\)akefield /---(.](o)[.)---\ iscandar@chatter.com o oo O oo o http://www.iscandar-66.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: "Kelvin Mok" Subject: Re: U-571 >> Not to nitpick, but several of the American sailors also appeared to be wearing medal ribbons on their dress whites that were either not issued at all during WW2 or would not have been likely earned by early 1942. << With all this wealth of knowledge for free available from among the countless hobby groups how is that none of those "historic era" movie makers ever thought of using the NET to at least get their equipment right? All the 'continuity' guy or gal needs to do is to post some pictures and ask if they are appropriate for the period or award. Kelvin Mok -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: "Simon Wolff" Subject: S-Boats SIG Hi you all... Hi there Dave.. You can't see but I do have my hand up.. Have limited information of the S-boats and always looking out for more. Have the Airfix kit and the Heller 1/400 kit(s). By the way thats a cool e-mail name! Lets SIG... how bout anyone else? Simon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: James Corley Subject: Re: The Judge is wrong again! >> Well, I really hate to do this, well maybe not. The inaccuracy that was pointed out on the Classic Warship model of the Salem by John Frohock's (replenishment arm on wrong side of turret) doesn't appear to be wrong. I waited until I got my photos back from the convention and the ones I took of the top of the turrets clearly show brackets for the replenishment arm on both sides of the turret. So, it appears either side is correct as the arm is interchangeable. It was a very nice kit and John had done an excellent job on it. It would have been a shame if it would have been a judged event and he would have lost points for what a Judge thought was right but really didn't know. << Hey, John & I discussed this that night. There are brackets on both sides, I just can't find any evidence to support the location of the arms. John had said they all faced stbd because that's the way the ship usually made her UNREPs and docked. She also has the boat arms on both sides, but they have chosen to show the stbd side one deployed since nobody would see the other one. Besides, I wouldn't want to be on the crew assigned to switch the arms around while at sea ... somebody could easily get killed. Looked like about 25' of 8" steel pipe (maybe 12") and that would weigh a lot. Charlie, this would not have affected the judging by me, but the miscast arm on #3 turret (had a bubble and about half the lower longitudinal brace was missing) not being repaired would have. Other than that, from an IPMS standpoint there was nothing readily evident to ding it for. If I suspect something is wrong, I will note it and research it later for my own benefit, or if the modeler is handy I will ask him/her directly. >> Aggh! Stop! Stop! Blame Steve Wiper! As for the number on turret #2; at least I know I got that one right because I went to the top of turret #2 and measured the real number for the decal set! (quietly scraping the replenishment arms off his model and reversing them) << Don't blame Wiper, looks like he used a photo (of #3) and built all of the turrets symmetrical. I can't find any drawings that even show these arms (but I don't have a really GOOD set of plans either!). All I pointed out Saturday is that they are currently configured differently on the real thing. I learned one thing, NEVER take a model of a ship to the ship unless everything matches ... too many smart alecs like me to point out the problems! But, like I said, after taking a tour of the ship and looking at all of the little details, my memory prodded me to inquire. BTW, you didn't have the windows painted on the 3" directors, either. ;-] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: "Satin, Michael N. (LNG-SHEP)" Subject: Nimitz I was wondering how the Trumpeter 1/500 Nimitz was going, if anyone was building one? How does it look, how are the decals and details? I've heard the aircraft are not so hot, true? Finally, are any of the Big Brass (GMM, Tom's, Flagship, etc.) doing sets for it? I would like a bigger model of Nimitz than the 1/720 kits but don't want to blow the $60+ if the kit's no good. Thanks! Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMMLcon Infomation & posts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Duane Fowler Subject: SMMLie Con 2001 Hello all, I just wanted to let all know what a great time I had at the SMML gathering on the USS Salem. My great appreciation to all involved. I would like to put out a suggestion for either 2001 that we meet aboard the USS Hornet in Alemeda. The hanger deck makes for one LARGE meeting room! There are several other museum ships and ship museums in the area. Perhaps we could consider meeting at the USS Missouri in Hawaii some time in the future too. It would be a great excuse to get out to Honolulu for a few days! Regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: Re: SMMLCon Hi Guys, Well, I have just returned from a few days in Bar Harbour, Maine (beautiful but soggy!), after the SMML weekend, and would like to add my congratulations and thanks to the organisers, volunteers and speakers at the convention. You all did a splendid job, and I know that all the attendees had a wonderful time. Fritz was our official guide for the Constitution trip, and did an admirable job, getting all the transport and ticketing organised (I would definitely have got lost on my own!). The weekend progressed wonderfully, with the guided tours (I think I did three of the Salem, each taken by an enthusiastic volunteer.. and each one was unique!). To the speakers.. John Snyder, Al Ross, Hugh Lambert, and Duane Fowler, you all did an excellent job ... and I, for one, would be happy to see any of these guys talk again. Great banquet.. the Salem bunch really looked after us, and, all in all, provided extremely good value-for-money for the $50.00 cost of the weekend.. congratulations on the house-keeping! For anyone wanting to see a ship that is about as complete as you'll get, you just have to see this beauty. Great to be on board a ship that still has all its fixtures and fittings, and an absolutely magnificent engine room to boot... mmmm... get that "perfume"! It was a much appreciated move to allow sales on board, and I think that the recipients of various goodies went home with smiles. As a couple of folks previously mentioned, I had taken the 1/350 CF Adams class patterns for display, and took a number of advance orders.. by now they should have arrived at JAG in Florida for casting. Quite a few folks had never seen a WEM pattern in the flesh and I think that everyone was suitably impressed by Peter Hall's work. The model display was inspiring and I am glad that I was not asked to judge! So... next year's event? Well, I had an E-Mail in to say that IPMS Hornet are holding their first ever model show next April... maybe they might like to host the SMMLCon at the same time? April 22 2001 is the date I got from Allan Salas.. how's about it, guys! Cheap time of year to travel.. Anyhow, regardless of when and where it is held, I will be there.. in the meantime, I will meet a bunch of you again this year at IPMS ScaleModelworld in the U.K. in October. You never know, we MIGHT get Shane and Lorna over for that one.. Cheers! Caroline Carter http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models White Ensign Models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: SoonerCon 2000 this weekend If you're in the Oklahoma City area on Saturday be sure to attend SoonerCon 2000 this weekend at the University Center on the UCO campus in Edmond Oklahoma. You can get all the downloadable info you need about the contest at: http://www.okinfoweb.com/ipmsmetro/index.htm Hope to see all of you there. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" Hi Rusty, Best wishes for the event. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: USS Cabot Update Hi Please pass this on to any interested folks and/or bulletin boards The Race is On! THE IRON WOMAN NEEDS YOUR HELP IRON WOMAN CAMPAIGN BEGINS WITH HELP OF NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION Dear Friends of the Iron Woman, Our endeavor to save the Iron Woman as a memorial/museum/education center continues. In less than four months we have established our foundation, articulated a vision for our project, enlisted the support of former presidents George Bush and Gerald Ford and developed capital and media campaigns to gain resources and educate the public about her historical significance. Currently, we are seeking a development grant (or grants), and soliciting individual contributions, to allow us to negotiate an option to purchase the ship for a specified time while we continue to develop our capital campaign, search for a venue, conduct a marine survey on the ship and develop our business plan. But we must hurry, we need to secure an option on the ship by the end of May to prevent the commencement of her demolition. The salvage company who owns her has graciously postponed her scrapping for the last few months but is reaching the limit of their ability to do so. We must help them by securing an option to purchase the ship while we continue our development work. We Need Your Contributions -- NOW! Over the last several weeks we have been contacted by many folks who wish to make a contribution to the effort to save the Iron Woman. Until now, we have been reluctant to accept donations because we didn't have the personnel to appropriately respond to donors, and we didn't believe it was appropriate to ask for individual donations until we thought we had a reasonable chance of success. We now believe that we have that chance. At this point we are confident that we will be able to get some major gifts that will make this project possible. Also, the National Trust for Historic Preservation has established an account for us at their organization. Contributions can now be made to the Iron Woman Foundation through the National Trust (see address below). This is a major breakthrough for the IWF because contributions for our project can now be made to the premier historic preservation organization in America. We are grateful to the National Trust and proud of the trust they have in our organization. They have provided guidance and support to the IWF from the beginning of our efforts. Watch for Iron Woman Story and President Ford Interview on ABC affiliates: By the way, in addition to the Washington Post and Washington Times articles, and the Scripps-Howard News Service article (sent to 400 newspapers), that have appeared recently, Jim Clarke of WJLA, the ABC television affiliate in DC, has produced a television news story about our effort to save the Cabot. It features an interview with former President Gerald Ford about his service aboard the Cabot's sister ship, the USS Monterey. The story is scheduled to air in DC on the 11 PM news, Thursday May 11. It will then be sent out over ABC's News One system to local ABC affiliates all over the country. Call your local ABC affiliate and ask them to run it when they receive it this next weekend. CBS News has also contacted us about doing a story on the Iron Woman for Memorial Day on either Dan Rather's Evening News or Charles Osgood's Sunday Morning. We will let you know more as that story progresses. Please check our website at www.ironwoman.org for updates on these stories and other matters. Where to Send Your Contributions: Well, that's it for now. Please send your contributions to: National Trust for Historic Preservation 1785 Massachusetts Ave. NW Washington, DC 20036 ATTN: Paul Edmundson, General Counsel Make your check payable to: National Trust for Historic Preservation On the memo line write: USS Cabot account With your contribution you become part of the Iron Woman Family. We are endeavoring to create a consortium of citizens and organizations to help save the Iron Woman for posterity at an appropriate venue as a memorial/museum/education center. Your contribution makes you part of that noble endeavor. If you have any questions or comments contact me at the numbers below. Welcome aboard, Peter Stoudt Chairman, Organizing Committee Iron Woman Foundation #1 Village Green Circle Charlottesville, VA 22903 (804) 977-5897 ps@cstone.net www.ironwoman.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: ICM KONIG and GROSSER KURFURST KITS Hi Guys, I have the following good news: BOTH the ICM 1/350 Konig and 1/350 Grosser Kurfurst kits arrive in the U.K. next week.. this means that we should receive our orders inside 2 weeks.. and we finally have a price: I gather that the U.S. shipment is going by surface so you may be waiting around some months.. if you want yours sooner rather than later then I would be delighted to oblige of course (!) ... and of course, at last, we can get the rest of the photoetched brass finished up for the kits! 42.54 Pounds ($63.81) overseas plus shipping at cost. U.K. and E.U. please add VAT to give a total cost of £49.99. We have just had the artwork from Peter Hall for the AIRFIX 1/600 QUEEN ELIZABETH photoetched brass detail set.. phew.. those davits are awesome! This massive set will be going for plotting very shortly and will be selling for 16.13 Pounds Post Free worldwide.. Pre-orders to me please! Thanks! Caroline Carter http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models White Ensign Models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://www.smml.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume