Subject: SMML VOL 937
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 23:05:59 +1000

shipmodels@tac.com.au

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MODELLERS INDEX

1: Royal navy frigate HMS Sirius (F40)
2: Re: What's Building?
3: Spanish Light Cruiser
4: Tacoma-class PFs
5: Re: Whatcha buildin'?
6: Re: Payment for Articles
7: Re: LCVP kits
8: Re: LCVP Kits
9: Ship Model Reference Material
10: Whatcha buildin'?
11: Bf 109T
12: New Book "Scale Model Warships"
13: F4F-3
14: Re: Whatcha Building?
15: Re: Whatcha buildin'?
16: Re: Painting and masking superstructures
17: Re: Watcha buildin'?
18: Re: Camouflage in 1942
19: What I'm playing with and USS Massachusetts
20: Re: Publishing in FSM
21: Re: I'll be at the nationals
22: Re: I'll be at the nationals
23: Re: Plastic rails
24: What I am currently building
25: Re: Watcha building?
26: FLETCHER class DD
27: Whatca Buildin?
28: Current projects and Heller paints
29: Re: 'O' Bannon camouflage
30: Re: 'O' Bannon camouflage
31: Publishing in FSM
32: Re: What Am I Building
33: Arkwrights <g>
34: hms hood R/c Model
35: Re: LCVP Kits
36: S-26
37: Whatchbuildin
38: Frence 1500 ton torpilleurs
39: Heller colours for Z-31
40: Re: CDN CPF -HMCS Halifax 330
41: Dads Navy Days - Index
42: Current Ops
43: Re: REUBEN JAMES Camouflage
44: Re: Lema Publications
45: Whatcha Building??
46: Re: Whatcha buildin'?
47: Re: IPMS/USA Nationals
48: Re: What's building?
49: Re: Whatcha Buildin'
50: White Glue
51: Magazine 
52: LCVP
53: Re: What I'm bulding.
54: Re: Whatcha Buildin?
55: What I'm building

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TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX

1: Flush Decks & Four Pipes copy
2: Bluejacket "fittings" section on web
3: Warship Books announces new publications from N.I.P.

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MODELLERS

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From: "Baumbach, Werner" <werner.baumbach@sap.com>
Subject: Royal navy frigate HMS Sirius (F40)

 Hello all, 

 I would like to build the Leander class frigate HMS Sirius (F40) for a friend who served on her. I have found some information on the Warship page, but that's it and there were no pictures at all. 

 Are there any books, websites, pictures  or other sources of information on either the Leanders in general or the HMS Sirius in particular, that would help me here. 

 Any input would be very much appritiated.

 Thanks a lot

 Werner
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From: AandMBlevins@gateway.net
Subject: Re: What's Building?

 I am currently scratchbuilding an Indian-Header Gloucester fishing schooner in 1/192 scale, the "Ingomar". I had a set of plans from Model Shipways "Elsie" and modified the hull and fittings in accordance with H.I.Chapelle's book "The American Fishing Schooners" and used Eric Ronnberg's books on the "Benjamin W. Latham" and "Smuggler as references.

 About six months ago I completed the "USS Alligator", a schooner built in  1820 to suppress the slave trade and piracy, in the same scale. 

 Al Blevins
 East Greenbush, NY
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From: Steve Sobieralski <steves@archconcept.com>
Subject: Spanish Light Cruiser

 A friend recently gave me a set of very nice set of plans of a Spanish naval vessel, the Almirante Cervera. The ship, which appears to be early to mid 1930's vintage, is a light cruiser, armed with eight 15.2cm guns in two single and three dual mounts, four 10.1cm single AA guns and two triple torpedo tubes. 

 In many details the ship looks rather British, similar to an Emerald class cruiser, and I wonder if this ship was built in Britain or to British plans. I seem to recall  there were two Spanish heavy cruisers built prior to WW2 using the same main armament as the County Class, perhaps even built in British yards. She would make an interesting model, but I have no knowledge or resources on the Spanish navy. Can anyone give me some information on this ship or point me to a good reference on Spanish ships?

 Thanks in advance for any help.

 Steve Sobieralski
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From: Joseph Poutre <jpoutre@lehman.com>
Subject: Tacoma-class PFs

 I, too, have the new Iron Shipwright model of the Burlington. She's to become the Bayonne, PF-21, my current home town.

 I personally am looking for Korean War references, because that's where she earned her 6 battle stars.

 The model itself is quite impressive, the only problems being the holes in the hull (easily filled with putty) and damaged bilge keels (also easily fixed with strip styrene and putty). The details are quite fine, and well-moulded. I highly recommend this model for those of you wanting to expand your collection beyond the big boats without taking up too much space or spending wads of cash.

 Joe Poutre
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From: Joseph Poutre <jpoutre@lehman.com>
Subject: Re: Whatcha buildin'?

 What am I building? Let's see...

 Iron Shipwright 1/72 USS Holland (Hey, Jeff Herne - does the Ling museum have one? Would they want one?)

 Lone Star Models 1/192 USS Passaic-class monitor, to be the USS Weehauken

 Iron Shipwright 1/350 USS Burlington, to become USS Bayonne, PF-21

 Glencoe 1/350 NS Savannah, becoming USS Hudson City, AOEN-5

 And the big project - 5 1/700 models to become a BB SAG centered around 	the Revell USS New Jersey, BB-62, eventually to be expanded by another 4 models once someone makes an AOR and a Bronstein, or 	my scratchbuilding skills get good enough

 Wow! I'd better get to work and stop wasting time here at my job!

 Joseph Poutre
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From: AandMBlevins@gateway.net
Subject: Re: Payment for Articles

 Hey guys,

 Don't complain if the publisher pays you in advance of publication. I wrote several articles for the now defunct Model Ship Builder Magazine and they payed the month after publication.

 In addition, I had an article about A.J. Fishers's Henry Ford II accepted and 
scheduled for the issue after they disbanded.

 Bummer.

 Al Blevins
 East Greenbush, NY
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From: Bruce Burden <brucegb@realtime.net>
Subject: Re: LCVP kits

 Robert Lockie wrote:

>> One of the items listed is described as 'LCVP, chaland de debarquement pour
l'infanterie US', in 1/72 scale and priced at FF110. It is apparently made by a company called Armageddon. 

 Has anyone seen one? Is it any good? <<
 
 Yes. 

 No. :-) I was looking at a sample a local hobby shop had. Price was US 20.something. You got three figures, all with deep ejector marks in their rear. Ouch!!! The LCVP itself didn't seem _that_ bad, for a $12.00 model or so. Think pretty soft on the detail, or about what you would expect from a limited run injected kit. The rear machine gun tubs looked pretty thick.

 Otherwise, it wasn't too bad. I don't know what the fit was like, since I didn't unbag the three sprue. Came in a nice, sturdy box, however. :-)

 Bruce
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From: "Felix Bustelo" <Felix.Bustelo@ny.frb.org>
Subject: Re: LCVP Kits

 Hello All,

 I hope to have a review of the Armaggedon kit some time soon - so you will see some images of the kit. I will most probably be in the July update of IMM.

 Regards,
 Felix Bustelo
 Webmaster
 International Maritime Modeling
 http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm
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From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
Subject: Ship Model Reference Material

 Hi All,

 The "watcha buildin" thread is great!!!!

 How about another one:

 I have been looking at several books for reference, most out of print, and am wondering which titles most people find accurate, useful, etc...I was considering the Norman Freidman books on US BB's, Cruisers, Destroyers etc...These are still in print and I was wondering how good they are. I have been relying mostly on whatever photos I can find, but that usually isn't enough. Any opinions as to what you find as a good source; be it magazines, e-zines( I think I subscribe to just about everything) or especially, useful reference books, both in and out of print, would be welcome....

 John
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From: Mark McKellar <Mark@thealliance.com>
Subject: Whatcha buildin'?

 I'll toss in my 2¢ on this topic.

 I've been working on the Tamiya Enterprise for over 18 months now. It's nearly done but I've taken the past 6 months off because of a heavy commitment at work.

 I've just started on a pair of 1/350 Los Angeles class subs - late and early versions.

 Sadly, my 6 month lay-off seems to have atrophied my skills. My airbrushing is terrible and I've had to work like a bugger just to fill and sand seams. For me, it's two steps forward and three back for now.

 Mark
 Near Boston, where the weather is perfect (Tuesday not withstanding)
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From: "Paul Fontenoy" <pfontenoy@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us>
Subject: Bf 109T

 The bible on this particular aircraft is 
  
 Francis L. Marshall SEA EAGLES: THE OPERATIONAL HISTORY OF THE MESSERSCHMITT BF 109t
  
 This work is based entirely on primary documentation and oral histories and it states categorically that no Bf 109T had folding wings, drawing on technical documentation from E-Stelle Zee at Travemunde. As far as I can tell, all statements in other publictions that the Bf 109T was fitted with folding wings are based on speculation, a not-unusual phenomenon in aviation historical writing.
  
 Paul E. Fontenoy
 Curator of Maritime Research
 North Carolina Maritime Museum
 *The opinions expressed here may not reflect those of my agency*
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From: Sanartjam@aol.com
Subject: New Book "Scale Model Warships"

 Hi SMML,

 I noticed on the Floating Drydock's web site the mention of a new book by Tim Morgan called "Scale Model Warships." It is published by Traplet Publications in the UK and is said to emphasize modern Royal Navy warships. Has anyone seen this book and, if so, what do you think of it?  

 Thanks,
 Art Nicholson
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From: "Paul Fontenoy" <pfontenoy@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us>
Subject: F4F-3

 The US Navy instructed that an overall light grey camouflage scheme fbe applied to its shipboard aircraft on 30ember 1940 and expanded this instruction to cover amphibians not based on ships on 26 February 1941. Actual application of this instruction took a little while but only F4F-3's based on WASP and RANGER operated with the brightly-coloured markings usual in the pre-war era.
  
 Paul E. Fontenoy
 Curator of Maritime Research
 North Carolina Maritime Museum
 *The opinions expressed here may not reflect those of my agency*
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From: "John Snyder" <jsnyder@macnexus.org>
Subject: Re: Whatcha Building?

 To all of you who have TIME to build anything: Fie on you!! 
 
 Grrr....
 
 John
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From: "Mike Taylor" <modelguy@my-Deja.com>
Subject: Re: Whatcha buildin'?

 Just shipped a 1/72 Riverine dio using Vikings monitor and aspb-photo's soon. Skywaves Miami CL and Cannon DE dio, WEM HMS Sussex, Aurora Mystery ship with BWN U-35 dio-no work started on that one yet but it's rising to the top of the bench, 1/700 St Nazaire raid dio converting a 1/700 Ward and will probably use PT's for the Fairmiles unless someone can send me a drawing to show me what they looked like (please no references to impossible to get books, a doodle would do fine) a 1/700   D-Day dio, finishing a 1/1250 RN task force built around the carrier Invincible, 1/350 E. Fitz review for Warship, 1/350 Bismarck, Classic airframes F4b-4 and SBC-3 and for myself, when I get the chance, Tamiya's 1/350 Fletcher. 

 Whew, kinda busy...
 Mike T
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From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Painting and masking superstructures

>> Also, another possible on-topic thread: how does everyone mask off 
superstructures for painting decks? Do you do it freehand, use liquid mask? Use masking tape? I would be curious as to what people do. I have tried all of the above and still can't seem to settle on one method. <<

 Ask anyone who knows me and they'll tell you I don't work any harder on anything than I have to. I don't mask off anything (unless it's needed) when it comes to painting ships in any scale.

 I paint the deck first the appropriate color. Don't mask anything, just blast away.  I then paint waterline boot. Mask that off, then paint the lower section of the hull.  I then assemble the superstructure and paint the decks with a brush. I apply the superstructure and other major components to the deck.

 Here's the fun part. I paint the rest of the hull and superstructure by holding an airbrush at a 45 degree angle below deck one. Paint as much as you can without moving above deck one. You should be able to paint about 75% of the model from there. The decks will act as masks as long as you stay at a 45 degree angle with no overspray on the decks. It's then a matter of brush painting the bottom portion of the bulkheads down to deck level. It's a fast and easy way to paint ship models in any scale.

 Rusty White
 Flagship Models Inc.
 http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ 
 "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs"
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From: "JAmes McCormick" <JMAC112665@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Watcha buildin'?

 Gots me a 1/350th USCG eagle on the ways, but as the turf outside has finally dried out, I am currently doing my best impression of Spaulding from that great film "Caddyshack".(much to the dismay of local greenskeepers who are quickly becoming VERY farmiliar with the evidence of my passage on their links). I've got some projects still in the works with some of you, I will be in touch soon, I promise.

 As for the Isreali missile boats, did you know the the Hebrew National Mk1 Mod0 is actually built under license from Sugardale? yep, it's a direct copy of the ubitiquious sugardale "burp stick", although I hear the components used on the Hebrew National are of MUCH higher quality(their motto- if it's cloven, it's not chosen).
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From: "John Snyder" <jsnyder@macnexus.org>
Subject: Re: Camouflage in 1942

>> I have been informed that in late 1941 the Australian Navy issued a directive for their ships operating in the South Pacific Command, to the effect that warships should be painted in an overall dark blue grey. <<

 While certainly not a conclusive answer by any means, I have before me a copy of a page from Commonwealth Navy Orders, 1943, obtained from the Australian Ministry of Defence. Item 400, "External and Camouflage Painting--Standardization of Colour Shades, and Introduction of A1 and A2 Class Quantities Paint." The colours listed for use, with descriptions, are:

 G5 - Near Black; G10 - Dark Grey; G20 - Dark Khaki; MS3B - Greenish Khaki; B30 - Light Khaki; B55 - Light Grey; B15 - Blue Grey; G45 - Grey; Sky Blue for Masts; and....

 "Chicago Blue"

 No descriptor for this last. My personal opinion is that it is Navy Blue 5-N, or the Australian equivalent, as worn by USS CHICAGO when she was down there in the early days of 1942 and until her loss. We know that certain units of the U.S. Pacific Fleet were wearing this colour in late 1941. 

 Could this be the basis for the "overall dark blue grey" cited above? The RAN equivalent of Ms.21?

 Unfortunately, my contact at Defence has retired, though I'm still in contact with her by e-mail and am trying to get her to point me to a new contact there...

 John Snyder
 Snyder & Short Enterprises
 The Paint Guys
 http://www.shipcamouflage.com
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From: "Satin, Michael N. (LNG-SHEP)" <Michael.Satin@Shepards.com>
Subject: What I'm playing with and USS Massachusetts

 Currently I'm switching back and forth between the Tamiya 1/350 Missouri, which I'm converting to the Iowa with the help of CW, and the 1/350 KGV. These are the first kits that I'm doing with the full GMM treatment and I must say I love the stuff, though it can be a bit fiddly.

 Now if only I'd quit pulling out some of my stash of kits ;->, which brings me to the next part of this post. I have the Blue Water Navy USS Massachusetts kit and in studying the instructions I came across something that confuses me. They show a couple of 40 mm. gun tubs on the foc'sle with square resin pieces under them. The instructions say to cut a chunk out of the hull for the port side one but (apparently) not the starboard. Two questions:

 1. Were these installations there in late '42 when Mammie was shooting at N. Africa? If the answer to this is no, it obviates the next question which is: 

 2. Huh? Why cut the chunk out and then put a resin block in to fill it? Were the tubs raised off the deck? If so, why not on both sides? 

 Now don't get me wrong, this is a great kit! I just wondered about these gun tubs.  And I love this thread.  It's nice to know I'm not the only one with ADD (attention deficit disorder, not A Destroyer). Thanks all!

 Michael 
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From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Publishing in FSM

 James,
 
 Unfortunately, once Kalambach has paid you for your article, they can do with it what they will. Publish it, or not publish it when they want. I happen to know after talking to Terry Thompson that they need ship articles. So you may email him and ask if he has a publishing date yet for the article.

 Rusty White
 Flagship Models Inc.
 http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ 
 "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs"
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From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'll be at the nationals

 I'll be there. Are there any plans to have a lunch, breakfast or whatever? I hope to see you all there. I would like to see a bunch of sign up as OJT ship judges. And if you make me angry, I'll put you on Snyder's team. So be civil. Come by the ship categories and say hi. I'm the one who looks like Erik Cartman (too many Cheesy Poofs).

 Rusty White
 Flagship Models Inc.
 http://www.okclive.com/flagship/  
 "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs"
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From: SeaPhoto@aol.com
Subject: Subject: Watcha buildin'

 Well, not much changes over the years <grin> still working on the John Paul Jones (DDG-53) in 1/96 scale. Finished the helo deck markings last night - that was an interesting project. I used Microscale white decal strips cut down to the proper width for the pattern. The center circle and ring were cut from a solid white sheet using a compass with a knife blade substituted for the pencil. I will put a picture or two up on the web site later for anyone interested in taking a peek. Today I will continue working on the red danger markings that surround the five inch gun and the CIWS.

 Took the ship out for a run last Sunday... seeing her gliding through the water kinda makes it all worthwhile!

 Kurt Greiner
 SeaPhoto Maritime Photography
 http://warshipphotos.com
 Warship Models Underway
 http://members.aol.com/wmunderway/home.htm
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From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Plastic rails

>> 'Nother question: do the railings that come with the kit look good on the finished model, or should I just get photoetched rails and forget the plastic ones? <<

 Chuck the plastic rails.

 Rusty White
 Flagship Models Inc.
 http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ 
 "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs"
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From: "Steven P. Allen" <spallen@rolemail.ccis.edu>
Subject: What I am currently building

 What I am currently building

 I've still got my 1/250 conversion of Revell's DE-to-an-APD on the ways. I'm about ready to begin fitting her out, though I'm still waiting for some 20mm guns I ordered from FD some time back to come in.

 My 1/96 R/C Wainwright is about to get new in-progress phots taken for the 
Wainwright Vets Website.

 I'm about to start rebuilding an Imperial Star Destroyer. Yeah, yeah, I know, but it IS a ship ;-) Anyway, I can't leave it alone. I want to add detail and change it from an ISD II (such as is commonly seen in Episodes V and VI) to an ISD I (as seen in Episode IV).

 Steve Allen

 PS I'd really like to build a 1/35 scale DUKW (Hey!  it goes on the water!), but nobody's come out with one yet.
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From: "Poore, Devin" <dpoore@randomhouse.com>
Subject: Re: Watcha building?

 After 3 weeks of vacation, working late and refinishing furniture, I plan on jumping back in on my BWN 1/350th scale U.S.S. Farenholt this weekend. I'm having resin withdrawals...

 Devin
 http://home.earthlink.net/~devinj/modeling.htm
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From: "math4936" <math4936@concentric.net>
Subject: FLETCHER class DD

 I am building a Tamiya 1/350 FLETCHER. I understand that there is a photoetch set for this model. Has anyone used this set and is it any good. My problem is with old eyes and a gray rug, I spend a lot of time on my knees with a spot light and magnifying glass looking for dropped parts, some of which seem to have been eaten by the rug.
  
 Thanks
 Math
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From: "Bob Mills" <docbob@mail.sensible-net.com>
Subject: Whatca Buildin?

 Really like this thread. I'm currently working on Nichimo's 1/200 JSDF "Asagumo". Sanded off a lot of deck details to replace them with scratch built. Rebuilt the mast, radars and gun mounts. Turned the gun barrels from brass tubing on my lathe. Tore out all the splinter shields and replaced with thinner evergreen plastic. This has been a project for me for about 3 mos. and am getting close to the finish. In my glory and having a ball.

 Happy shipbuilding to all.
"Doc" Bob
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From: "John Clements" <john.clements@admin.ox.ac.uk>
Subject: Current projects and Heller paints

 My current projects are:

 1/700 Revell/WEM Invincible - finished but for the rigging - looking for an alternative to fly fishing line as the necessary tension is pulling the etched spreaders off the masts.
 
 1/700 Revell Arleigh Burke - part done
 
 Eagerly awaiting WEM Warspite; Skywave O class conversion with WEM parts stacked up for after that.......oh, yes, and the 'when I get round it list' too long to mention, like most people it seems.

 David Hackly asked about his Heller Z31. As for the railings, and other bits like the hopeless radar in the kit, use the GMM 1/400 German Ships set. I've got a translation table for the Heller paints to Humbrol equivalents at home and can post the relevant descriptions tomorrow, unless someone else gets there first.
Do persevere, it's basically a good kit but needs more detail.

 John Clements
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From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'O' Bannon camouflage

 May I ask what reference you used for the Ms 12 camouflage. I would have thought that the color would have been an overall Navy Blue at this time?
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From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'O' Bannon armament in 1942

 What's this about a twin 20mm fitted on the quarterdeck; nonsense!
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From: Ned Barnett <interned@accessnv.com>
Subject: Publishing in FSM

Jim Kloek wrote:

>> I am having a similar experience with FSM. They accepted one of my articles early in 1999, and paid me for it then, and I still have no idea when it will appear. In the past I have always experienced some delay, but never quite this long before. In this case it is more than a little frustrating, since the subject is reworking the old Aoshima 1/700 Takao, and if Skywave get their new kits out before it is printed the article will be a lot less relevant. Life is apparently good at Kalmbach. <<

 I've had a couple of articles published in FSM, starting with their very first trial issue about 18 years ago. However, my "record" is an article I wrote (and was paid for) some time between 1984 and 1988 - the check cleared but the article never appeared. Life is indeed good for Kalmbach <g>; and while I would have liked to see my article in print, it was nice spending money anyway ,,, <g>

 Ned
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From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com
Subject: Re: What Am I Building

 The Fiji Class Cruiser Trinidad as in 1942. Scale of 1" = 16'.

 Question; does anybody if single 20mm were fitted, in addition to the two on 
the quarterdeck?           
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From: Ned Barnett <interned@accessnv.com>
Subject: Arkwrights <g>

Kelvin Mok wrote:

>> All in all the Ark is probably a pius invention after the fact but the Flood itself is probably based on fact as it seems to be a fairly universal folklore across many early civilizations. <<

 I was fascinated by your scholarship and analogies. Very interesting. There is a great recent book out on the real flood - apparently, the Black Sea was created (and created a population migration that led to the prevalence of both the Indo-European/Aryan language group and the Flood myth) about 6,500 BC when a breach was formed in what became the Bosporus that let the Mediterranean overflow into what was until then a freshwater lake less than half the size of today's Black Sea. The event was catastrophic in nature, very quick in geologic terms, and uprooted what had been one of the more advanced proto-civilized cultures.

 As for the boat itself, myth or reality, it makes a fine model. And an 
interesting debate.

 Ned Barnett
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From: John Anderson <riverwnd@earthlink.net>
Subject: hms hood R/c Model

 Hey stuart ,

 Check out the H.M.S. HOOD web site, and you will see in the model gallery pictures
of my little H.M.S. HOOD she is built to 1/72 scale and is just a touch under 12 feet long and 18 inches wide, what scale is your HOOD in, and where are you going to sail her, ? mine is nearing completion of the major structures and has under gone primary ballast testing and weighs out at 263 pounds fully ballast, me HOOD and i have been invited to the San Francisco Model Yacht Club, tug boat regatta as a tug target for them to push and pull around during the competition, willpost more picture as i get a chance to take them, the fun part was putting down the decking 1/8 " thick bass wood strips to simulate her deck loads of fun

 Good luck
 John Anderson
 Redwood City Ca
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From: jbklb <jbklb@mciworld.com>
Subject: Re: LCVP Kits

 To Robert Lockie: 
 
 Regarding the inquiry on the Armageddon 1/72 scale LCVP, it is similar to the "short run" kits or the very earliest Airfix, Frog, etc. plastic kits. Looks like the parts are there (about 25 pieces I would guess), but not much in the area of decals or directions. Looks like a first attempt by a new company. Mine was rather expensive from my local hobby shop at about $24.00, but compared to the resin alternatives, not bad!!

 On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give it a 5 in most catagories. You are going to have to "model" this one... 

 Loren Pike 
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From: "Kenneth H. Goldman" <khgold@wman.com>
Subject: S-26

 The BWN S-26 is a very good kit, but it is not "excellent". I modified one as S-44 and did a build article for Navismagazine a while back, and I plan to modify another to S-1. The problem with the kit is in the deck casing forward of the gun sponsons. The starboard smooth bulge with limber holes is a creation of the kit designer's imagination. S-26 had a small sponson added there, just lage enough to straighten the tumblehome of the casing to enclose the trunk to an escape hatch. It looks more like a tight conical section. Other boats mounted that hatch in the center of the deck and had no sponson there. 
  
 Ken Goldman
 THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER
 http://www.wman.com/~khgold/
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From: "Kenneth H. Goldman" <khgold@wman.com>
Subject: Whatchbuildin

 If it makes Bruce Ross feel any better, I'm working on a "wingy thing" too - 1:8 scale Hasegawa SE.5a. At least its construction is a lot like a plank on frame ship model. :-}) 
  
 Ken Goldman
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From: "Erhardtsen" <Erhardtsen@mail.tele.dk>
Subject: Frence 1500 ton torpilleurs

 I have been busy lately, and got allmost one month behind reading my SMML

 I notice that there again have been interest fore the frence 1500 ton torpilleurs. As I mentioned half a year ago, I have made the ship (as polish Burza), and can make one or two more copys if someone needs it. I do allso make some of the other frence destroyers as resine models (The models are not made fore sale, but fore making my own building of ships easyer)

 Erik Erhardtsen
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From: "Jean-Paul Binot" <jpbinot@cybercable.fr>
Subject: Heller colours for Z-31

Hi David,

>>  I joined this list a week ago and have been lurking. Now I say 'hello' to  everyone <<

Welcome on board

>>  I'm currently in the early stages of Heller's Z-31 destroyer, and not too pleased with the way it's going. I'm an 'intermediate' level modeler and felt a bit out of my depth with this kit from the beginning. Main problem is with the color scheme. I couldn't find a key to the Heller paint numbers anywhere, not in the directions, not in any of the unbuilt Heller kits I've got here, and not on the internet. Nor have I been able to find a good color photo of this class, so I'm just going by the box art. <<

The box art on Heller kits is usually very nice as far as details of the model are concerned (often being more accurate than the kit itself), but it is a poor guide for colours.  The Heller range of paints has been discontinued a long tima ago, I think. There are tables for converting Heller paint numbers to the Humbrol range in old Heller catalogs. However, there seems to be no match for the numbers you indicate. Heller paints had numbers in the range 9xxx for gloss and and 7xxx for matt.

>> The mystery could be unlocked if I had the key to this cryptic formula:

  PEINTURE HELLER: 11 - 27 - 33 - 34 - 56 - 64 - 71 - 73 - 98 - 99 <<

 I would venture that the numbers you have in the kit's instructions might refer to paints in the Humbrol range. I have checked that they all seem plausible for a capouflaged Kriegsmarine destroyer.

 I have a Heller kit of a Z-31 in 1942 (kit nr 81010) that has painting instructions for Z-31 in Norway, using paints numbers 27, 64, 71, 73, 98 which are Humbrol's Matt Sea Grey, Matt Light Grey, Satin Oak, Matt Wine, Matt Chocolate respectively. Entirely plausible, I'd say.

 You might want to check the full list of Humbrol paints that can be found on Felix Bustello's site at http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/paints/humbrol.htm

>> 'Nother question: do the railings that come with the kit look good on the finished model, or should I just get photoetched rails and forget the plastic ones<<

 I still have to find a sensible use for those. They are grossly over-scale. Discard them and use 1/400 PE rails. GMM does a superb 1/400 German Ship set that even includes radar sets, funnel caps etc. for a Z-31.

 Enjoy building the kit, and feel free to post further questions.

 Jean-Paul Binot
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From: pepe@ns.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: CDN CPF -HMCS Halifax 330

 HMCS Halifax's number is 330 NOT 380.I work on her and her six East coast based sisters five days a week. The least the US makers of the 350 resin kit could do is get her number right. If anybody needs info on the Canadian Patrol Frigate ships for modeling, let me know, all I have to do is walk over to one. I also build them in 1:700 scale. They are great ships. 

 rolie in Halifax,NS
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From: Melea <melea@surfree.com>
Subject: Dads Navy Days - Index

 Hello all stations
 
 Although Naval ships are not my favorite subjects in ship model building,(yes, Ive built a few) perhaps some of you folks would find the following web site interesting. While wandering around the "net" I came across a neat web page. I'm unaware if this site has been discussed before on this list but for the uninitiated, take a look.  The page centers around the HMS GAMBIA(WWII cruiser) and the HMS WARRIOR(post WWII carrier). The flight deck photos(heck, all the photos)  are wicked good...

http://www.brisray.co.uk/dad/dind.htm

 Now perhaps a list member can help me find a set of plans. A Navy vet of WWII wants to build a large model of the LST he served aboard in 1944. He has the Lindberg model, several pages of plans but needs a set of OFFSET lines to form the hull. Can anyone out there in SMMLieland offer assistence?

 And regarding "On the ways"... I'm building a 6 foot long model of a USCG cutter,"CAMPBELL" been working on it since 1989, it is a work in progress...

 "A collision at sea can ruin your whole day"
 MJM USCG (ret)

Dads Navy Days - Index

HomePage | Optical Illusions | War Stories | QBasic | Dads Navy Days | Bristol | About Ray | Site Map | Site Search | Credits | Links | Web Rings

Dads Navy Days | A brief history | Documents (Page 1), (Page 2), (Page 3) | Maps (Page 1), (Page 2) | HMS Gambia - ship (1950), (1951), (1952) | HMS Gambia - crew (Page 1), (Page 2) | HMS Gambia - places (1950), (1951) | HMS Gambia - visitors | HMS Warrior - ship (1953), (Vietnam), (1954), (Equator), (Life), (More 1954) | HMS Warrior - crew | HMS Warrior - places (Page 1), (Page 2) | HMS Warrior - planes (Page 1), (Page 2), (Page 3) | Other ships (Page 1), (Page 2)

Some notes on these pages :

When I was a child every now and again we (my sisters, brother and I) were allowed to look at our dads collection of photos taken whilst he was in the Royal Navy. He died on 13th July 1994 and the collection came to me. Looking through them now I realise that they are important documents, both in terms of what they show and what they stand for. They were important to dad in the fact that these are the only photos that he kept as a collection. Even photos of us, his children, are now scattered around the family or lost, but the 'Navy Days' pictures, several hundred of them, are still complete and in their original albums nearly 50 years after they were taken.

All of the photos cover the period he spent on HMS Gambia (1950 - 1952) and HMS Warrior (1953 - 1955). I've split them roughly into three for both ships :- the ships, his mates and other personalities and the places they visited. For HMS Warrior I've also included a section on the planes - some of the photos of which are truely amazing.

Apart from small notes in the albums none of the photos are documented or even dated. Where possible I've included some background information as to what is happening.

Dads Royal Navy Service :

Dad was born on 21st October 1930 and volunteered for 12 years service in the Royal Navy on 3rd February 1948, he was accepted for Special Service, whatever that was, and started training on 13th May. 

From his Certificate of Service he trained on HMS Royal Arthur, Raleigh and Drake as a stoker, from there he went to HMS Wrangler as Stoker Mechanic in 1949, joining HMS Gambia in 1950 for two years. In 1953 he joined HMS Warrior, becoming an Engineering Mechanic. He also spent nearly a year, between his time on HMS Gambia and HMS Warrior, on HMS Orion, but I've got no information on this at all except that like HMS Gambia she was a cruiser.

His time was spent with the Mediterranean and Far Eastern Fleet, as a result he visited most of the Southern European nations, France, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Sicily, Germany and Austria, the countries along the Adriatic coast - obviously not Yugoslavia (it was communist) but Greece, Crete and Malta. Through the Suez Canal to Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Around the Indian Ocean to Pakistan and India, Ceylon (Sri Lankra) and Thailand. Into the Pacific and the Sea of Japan for Hong Kong, Korea, Vietnam and Japan. He also took the long way around Africa, Crossing the Line on the way round the Cape. 

He became a Royal Navy Swimming Instructor in 1951, got his first Good Conduct badge on 21st October 1952 and on 20th July 1955 received the UN Korea and Korean medals for his service there.

Although he signed up for twelve years, defence cuts meant his service was reduced and he was discharged from service on 21st October 1955 having spent very nearly 7 and a half years in the Royal Navy.
 * HomePage - Contents  
 * Optical Illusions 
 * War Stories - Index 
 * QBasic 
 * Dads Navy Days
 * A brief historical background 
* Documents (Page 1) 
* Documents (Page 2) 
* Documents (Page 3) 
* Maps - (Page 1) - the areas covered by the cruises 
* Maps - (Page 2) 
* HMS Gambia - the ship (1950) 
* HMS Gambia - the ship (1951) 
* HMS Gambia - the ship (1952) 
* HMS Gambia - the crew (Page 1) 
* HMS Gambia - the crew (Page 2) 
* HMS Gambia - the places (1950) 
* HMS Gambia - the places (1951) 
* HMS Gambia - the visitors 
* HMS Warrior - the ship (1953) 
* HMS Warrior - the ship (Vietnam, 1954) 
* HMS Warrior - the ship (1954) 
* HMS Warrior - the ship (Crossing the Equator, 1954) 
* HMS Warrior - the ship (Life on board) 
* HMS Warrior - the ship (More 1954) 
* HMS Warrior - the crew and other people 
* HMS Warrior - the places (Page 1) 
* HMS Warrior - the places (Page 2) 
* HMS Warrior - the planes (Page 1) 
* HMS Warrior - the planes (Page 2) 
* HMS Warrior - the planes (Page 3) 
* Other Royal Navy ships (Page 1) 
* Other Royal Navy ships (Page 2) 
  
 * Bristol - A history and guide to my home city 
 * About Ray - My own little ego trip 
 * Site Map 
 * Site Search - Search my site 
 * Credits - Sources and resources used in the making of this site 
 * Links - some of my favourite web sites 
 * Web Rings - Web rings this site is linked to  
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From: "Mike Leonard" <mike.leonard@erols.com>
Subject: Current Ops

 I guess it's not hot and humid enough in Washington, DC, because my wife has gone to Florida for a week. Maybe now I'll make some progress at my workbench. Projects now scattered across the desktop include:

 - Jim Shirley battleship CALIFORNIA in 1/700. Replaced the wretched resin cagemasts with Tom' photoetched parts and the 14-inch main battery guns with Clipper Models brass barrels. Sprayed base coat over resin deck and hull. 


- DML full hull and Skywave waterline DDG-51 class in 1/700. These are not the same kit; some prominent differences are apparent upon casual comparison (beyond the lower hull in the DML box). Assembled and filled gaps on both kits.

- Mirage Polish destroyer GROM in 1/400 plastic. Painted vertical surfaces.

- Modelkrak Russian battleship PEREVETS in 1/700 resin. Applied base coat to hull and deck. Fit stacks.

- JAG Higgins PT boat (full hull) in 1/350 resin. Cleaned excess material from hull bottom.

- Seal Models Japanese battleship MIKASA, c.1904 in 1/700 plastic. Base coat sprayed on hull and main deck.

- Commander Series patrol frigate in 1/350 resin. Installed stack, gun tubs, and filled and sanded surface blemishes.

- L'Arsenal FLOWER class corvette in 1/400 resin. Applied base coat to upper hull.

 Should keep me out of trouble for a week...

 Mike
 Home Alone in Alexandria, VA  USA
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From: "John Sheridan" <jrsheridan@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: REUBEN JAMES Camouflage

 >>"The Rube" was indeed wearing Measure 2. Similar to the later Measure 12 that derived from it, Measure 2 called for painting the hull in bands of Dark Gray 5-D, Ocean Gray 5-O, and Light Gray 5-L, with everything above the deck edges painted in Light Gray 5-L. <<

 Could someone please scan a photo of Rueben James in this scheme and send it to me?

 I would love to add it to the camouflage site. 

 John Sheridan
 www.shipcamouflage.com
 I am not Unit# 631 of the Lumber Cartel (tinlc)
 If there were a Lumber Cartel, the last place on earth I would look for it would be:
 http://come.to/the.lumber.cartel
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From: SeaPhoto@aol.com
Subject: Re: Lema Publications

Mike Leonard writes:

>> Last night I discovered a new (1999) series of books by Lema Publications of Spain. Called "Armament and Technology", the author is Camil Busquets, translation to English by Mike Roberts. Each volume is a soft cover, 95-page comparative look at the weapons, sensors, and propulsion systems of modern naval vessels. <<

 If anyone wants to buy these, here is the search link for the publisher on 
Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/ref=s_sf_b_as/002-9647760
-7954432

 Scroll down a bit, and you will see the titles Mike mentioned.  The DD book 
looks interesting to me - might just get it and decide on the others after.

 Kurt Greiner
 SeaPhoto Maritime Photography
 http://warshipphotos.com
 Warship Models Underway
 http://members.aol.com/wmunderway/home.htm
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From: "O'Connor" <mmocon@mail.mco.bellsouth.net>
Subject: Whatcha Building??

 SMMLies-
 
 Don't keelhaul me, but the last two kits I've started have WINGS- albeit they belong on carriers. MACH 2's 1/72 Breguet ALIZE-not too bad, but I wrote them for replacement parts for the prop hub(missing) and decals(Shattered on impact with water) Look for my kit review on the SMAKR page which can be found in the IPMS/USA website under aircraft . 

 Second, the nice 1/48 Revell Dassault Rafale M (still working).Up next will be either a "Z" class destroyer (SAMEK kit) or the Tamiya HMS RODNEY. But all that's after the beach vacation next week.....

 Bob O'Connor, from the smokey Central Florida area , where we tried to lose our office to wildfires today. Man, those HH-60 FIREHAWKS are cool!!
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From: "Hughes Family" <jwcpsm@sgi.net>
Subject: Re: Whatcha buildin'?

 Current project (s) are building three Skywave Spruance class destroyers, one as she was launched, one mid to late 80's fit and one current fit.

 Which brings me to a question, does anyone have any plans/info on the hanger enlargements, and the current aft maintenance enclosure/platform for the CIWS. I have not been able to find any decent pic or info that clearly shows all sides and angles.

 Any help would be appreciated as always.
  
 Jeff
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From: Marc Flake <mflake@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: IPMS/USA Nationals

 On behalf of Ed Grune, Mike Quan and other SMMLies in the Greater Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, I'd like to extend a warm Texas invitation for fellow listmemebers to attend this event.

 All three of us might even be decked out in the new SMML T-shirts.

 I'm hoping a bunch of us can get together for a lunch or something as was done last year in Orlando.

 I guess I'll start the list (in alphabetical order):

 Marc Flake
 Ed Grune
 Mike Quan
 Bruce Ross (Unless you're just sending your model in and not attending, lmk)

 Who else?
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From: Ives100@aol.com
Subject: Re: What's building?

 This is a real good thread; I'll join in. I managed to pick up cheap an old, beat-up, glue-dripped Aurora Soviet Golf class missile submarine. Perfect for my project! I'm building a diorama of the ocean floor with the Golf class K-129 submarine wrecked on the bottom. Going to severely damage the hull, and build partial interiors (crumpled) where there are major hull breaks (see below). Heavy weathering and rusting of the sub will be in order.   

 Poised over the submarine will be my rendition of the "Clementine" lifting device used by the Glomar Explorer to attempt to recover the submarine in 1974. Clementine will be built out of Plastruct beams, trusses, and girders, with solder for the hydraulic hoses and HO scale brake pistons for the hydraulic cylinders. There will also be the 4 manuevering propellers (HR metal prodcuts) for fine adjustements and break away ballast cylinders at the ends of Clementine.

 Since there are no Floating Drydock plans for Clementine, I am using the drawings and partial photos published in the 1978 book "A Matter of Risk" by an ex-CIA employee who was key in the project. Good description in the book (I don't know how accurate, though) of the immediate area around the wreck and its position on the ocean floor. I am deviating from his version that they attempted to lift the entire 320 foot submarine (into a 199 foot long moon pool in the Glomar Explorer nonetheless--ahem!) and going with the suppositions in the "Jennifer Project" and "The Secret War for the Ocean Depths" that the sub broke into a few major pieces, similar to the Scorpion wreck. If the explosion that sank it was in the aft battery compartment, the sub could have broken on impact with the ocean floor (estimated at 50-70 knots speed) at that point, leaving a rear section with diesel engines and a forward section with nuclear missiles in the sail, nuclear torpedoes, code books and other interesting equipement. If you measure the distance from the bow to the aft battery compartment, it comes out to (you guessed it!) a little over 190 feet....hhmmmm.

 This project has been a lot of fun so far, and I don't have to worry about super accuracy or the color police (yeah, but Clementine was really double I-beams on the top and painted FS 1080). Even the people who really DO know, can't comment!!

 Keep'em coming, folks!
 Tom Dougherty
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From: Jeffon10@cs.com
Subject: Re: Whatcha Buildin'

 Whoops re item 26, what the doctor meant to say was "not parallel as in Measure 22."
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From: NEVENGER@aol.com
Subject: White Glue

 OK I hear about using white glue on the seams and other parts of model ships. Is this a general type of glue or are there different brands of this stuff? I am looking for clarification on the subject.
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From: JPRDBR1@aol.com
Subject: Magazine 

 Hello everyone,
 
 While researching RN 'O' Class destroyers, I came across a reference to:
 
 Michael Ainsworth, Fighting Fleets in Miniature, No.250. British Destroyers of
 World War II, Model Boats, Vol. 40, No. 468 February, Hempstead, England: Argus Specialist Publications, 1990

 I've tried several out-of print internet sources to no avail!
 
 Does anyone have a sugestion of where I might obtain a copy?

 Thanks for your Help,

 Peyton Richardson
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From: "larsenal" <larsenal@mail.cpod.fr>
Subject: LCVP

 Hello !
  
 Firstly all my thanks for the answers I received about the LCA search. Secondly some information about the new LCVP from Armageddon. This firm is better known for its airplane models under the Mach 2 label. The LCVP is a short run plastic kit, and consists of about 30 pieces with four figures included. Decals offers the possibility to make a LCVP used during the D-Day operations at Omaha Beach.

 With a very little work it can be turned into a very nice model ( as usual with short run plastic kits some work is necessary to separate parts from their sprues ) Its is available at € 16.66 ( approx. $ 15.95) postage paid for non EEC modelers and € 17.57 (approx. $ 16.75) postage paid for EEC modelers.

 Best regards,
 Jacques Druel
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From: "Björn Dahlberg" <bjorn.dahlberg@martinsson.se>
Subject: Re: What I'm bulding.

 Hello to y'all

 Besides renovating my appartment and struggling to get a suitable place for modelling, (two persons in a single room & kitchen).

 Tamiya Fletcher 1/350 and various resting projects Airfix 1/72 E-boat, Vosper 73 ft MTB Type III and the Rescue Launch a Billing Boat's Dragen and the crown project. A
Vosper 73 ft MTB Type III 1/24 from Dean's Marine.

 As you probably understand, my girlfriend isn't all that happy over my "small" projects.

 Millions of thanx for the different leads on the Waldron Punch tool.

 Björn Dahlberg, (P 164, Swedish Navy 1993)
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From: "Busby, Russell ITCM(SW)" <CMC@barry.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: Whatcha Buildin?

 Working on two projects. Almost complete with Bluewater Navy USS John McCain(DDG 58). I am converting it to USS Barry (DDG 52) on which I am serving. Also working on a Chesapeake Bay skip jack from scratch. 

 I too would like some advice on masking off decks for spraying bulkheads. Also some advice on painting flight deck markings. I tried masking (on the Arleigh Burke class) and hand painting with less than desireable results. I guess I am having a problem with masking all together, any advice please.

 Thanks in advance
 Russ Busby
 USS Barry (DDG 52)
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From: AJOWENS@aol.com
Subject: What I'm building

 Hi all,
 
 Great hearing about what's in the works! Currently I've just about finished the Tamiya Hood, enhanced with a lot of WEM brass 'n bits. Inspired by John Lambert at SMMLCon, next in line is one of those dreaded Flower class corvettes - WEM's Bluebell which is currently about 75% done. Following on is a large to-do stack including the new CW Wichita (real nice BTW!), Waveline Conte Cavour, Commanders 1/700 Salem, WEM Sheffield not to mention repainting the bedrooms and getting a rollbar in my MGB! (roadgoing variety ;^>)

 A.J. Owens 
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From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
Subject: Flush Decks & Four Pipes copy

 Hi All,

 Anyone have a copy of this book they would be willing to sell/lend? I would be willing to pay a reasonable price(NOT AN EBAY PRICE) for it. Naval Institute Press said they may reprint this as there apparently is sufficient demand. Also, willing to trade for it.

 Let me know and contact me offlist.

 Thanks!

 John
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From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina)
Subject: Bluejacket "fittings" section on web

 We are pleased to announce that the "fittings" section of our catalog is finally on-line.  Check it out at www.bluejacketinc.com.
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From: Keith Butterley <keith_butterley@telus.net>
Subject: Warship Books announces new publications from N.I.P.

 Hi group,

 I just received the new Naval Institute Press fall catalogue today and here are some of  the new releases that might be of most interest to the members.

 They have started a new reference series called The US Navy Warship Series, the first two volumes are:

 The Sailing Navy 175-1854(December), Silverstone, 144pp, 78 photos, HC SRP $38.95US Warship Books $51Cdn/$34US

 Civil War Navies 1855-1883(December), Siverstone, 272pp, 140 photos, HC SRP $49.95 Warship Books $66Cdn/$44US

 Warship 2000-2001(November), Preston, 240pp, 50 photos, 50 line drawings 
HC SRP $42.95US Warship Books $57Cdn$38US

 The Naval Institute Guide to-The Ships and Aircraft of the US Fleet(November), Polmar, 592pp, 840 photos, 56 line drawings, 4 maps, HC SRP $85US, 
Warship Books $112Cdn/$74US

 Convoy-Merchant Sailors at War 1939-1945(August) Kaplan & Currie, 224pp, 113 photos, 60 in colour, PB. SRP $28.95US Warship Books $37Cdn/$25US

 Three Days to Pearl-Incredible Encounter on the Eve of War(November) Shepherd, 264pp, 5 photos, 4 maps,? SRP $29.95US Warship Books $39Cdn/$26US

 The Battle to Save the Houston-October 1944 to March 1945(September), Miller, 226pp, notes, PB. SRP $15.95US Warship Books $21Cdn/$14US

 Tin Can Sailor-Life Aboard the USS Sterett 1939-1945(September), Calhoun, 224pp, 9 photos, PB. SRP $15.95US Warship Books $21Cdn/$14US

 Black Company-The Story of Subchaser 1264(September), Purdon, 264pp, 7 photos, PB.
SRP $16.95US Warship Books $23Cdn/$15US 

 Enigma U-Boat, Breaking the Code-The True Story, Mallmann-Showall(August), 192pp, 300 illustrations, HC. SRP $36.95US Warship Books $48Cdn/$32US

 Tirpitz-Hunting the Beast(August), Sweetman, 192pp, 40 photos, HC. SRP $28.95 Warship Books $37Cdn/$25US

 Splinter Fleet- The Wooden Subchasers of World War II(November), Treadwell, 272pp, 40 photos, line drawing, HC. SRP $34.95US Warship Books $45Cn/$30US

 The Rules of the Game-Jutland and the British Naval Command(September), Gordon, 736pp, 38 phtos, 28 line drawings, PB SRP $29.95US Warship Books $39Cdn/$26US

 The Tudor Navy-The Ships, Men and Organization 1485-1603(October), Nelson, 240pp, 120 illustrations, HC. SRP $56.95US Warship Books $75Cdn/$50US

 Nelson to Vanguard-Warship Design and Development 1923-1945(October), Brown, 224pp, 200 photos, line drawings,  This is the third book in the Chatham Design Series     HC SRP $59.95 Warship Books $79Cdn/$52US

 Frigates of the Napoleonic Wars(August), Gardiner, 192pp, 150 photos and 
illustrations, HC SRP $59.95 Warship Books $79Cdn/$52US

 USS Olympia-Herald of Empire(November), Cooling, 264 pp, 40 photos, HC SRP $34.95US Warship Books $45Cn/$30US

 Ships of the American Revolution and Their Models(September), Hahn, 288pp, 200 illustrations, HC. SRP $55US Warship Books $72Cdn/$48US

 Handbook of 19th Century Naval Warfare(October), 288pp, 150 illustrations, HC.
SRP $45US Warship Books $59Cdn/$39US 

 Rigging Period Ship Models-A Step by Step Guide to the Intricacies of the Square-Rig(November), Petersson, 128pp, 400 drawings, HC. SRP $42.95US Warship Books $57Cdn$38US

 The Period Ship Handbook-Volume 3(August), Julier, 192pp, 250 photos and drawings, PB. SRP $34.95US Warship Books $45Cn/$30US

 Modelling Sailing Men-Of-War-An Illustrated Step by Step Manual(September), Reed, 192p, 400 b&w and 8 colour photos, HC. SRP $38.95US Warship Books $51Cdn/$34US

 Pursuit-The Chase and Sinking of the Battleship Bismarck(September), Kennedy, 296pp, HC SRP $34.95US Warship Books $45Cn/$30US

 My personal pick and CHECKOUT THAT PRICE :-)

 The Allied Convoy System 1939-1945(available now), Hague, 200pp, 49 photos, HC
This book sets out in detail how the convoy system was organized and what provisions were made for its protection, with descriptions and illustrations of escorts, escort oilers, rescue ships, salvage tugs, and escort carriers. The appendix lists every North Atlantic  or North Atlantic related convoy, with sailing and arrival dates, points of departure, arrival, numbber of vessels involved and number lost.
SRP $34.95US Warship Books $34Cdn/$23US

 If you want any further information or to place an order, please contact me.

 Keith Butterley
 http://www3.telus.net/warshipbooks/
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