Subject: SMML VOL 939 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 00:27:17 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Whatcha buildin'? 2: Re: Enterprise Carrier Aircraft and Op Sail 3: PT 109 and LCVP 4: Re: IPMS/USA 5: Re: Spanish Ships 6: Re: Whatcha Buildin'... 7: Re: IPMS/USA Nationals 8: Whatcha Readin? 9: Re: Graf Zeppelin air Wing 10: Old eyes/dropped parts 11: Submarine books 12: Re: Whatcha Buildin'? 13: Re: 1/700 French Battlecruisers 14: Re: Corvettes, JK &N Class Destroyers, and pleas for help, etc. 15: Queries 16: whatcha building 17: white glue 18: Kudos 19: Whatchabuildin? 20: Resin Warp 21: 1/700 French Battlecruisers 22: Re: scale model warships revue 23: Re: What are you building 24: Glencoe WW1 U.S. Navy Subchaser kit 25: ROYAL NAVY BOFORS MK VI SEXTUPLE 40MM ANTI-AIRCRAFT MOUNTINGS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: T-shirts...... 2: Kit wanted 3: White Ensign Models (WEM) webpages updated! 4: Model Ship Journal: Its Almost Here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Douglas Bauer Subject: Whatcha buildin'? I'm presently finishing up a scratchbuilt 1:350 model of the USS Salamonie (AO26), in one of her WWII configurations. With technical assistance from Jon Warneke, I was able to design and successfully pour my very first resin hull. I had previously done a conversion Revell's "Mission Capistrano" into a fictitious fleet oiler, the USS Catawampus...but Salamonie definitely taught me the value of planning ahead. Now I'm engaged in preparations for scratchbuilding a model of USS Windham County (my old ship), an 1156-class LST in 1:200 scale. If anyone has any nice detail photos of this class vessel, I'd sure be happy to hear from you. Doug Bauer Poway, CA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Kenneth Perry Subject: Re: Enterprise Carrier Aircraft and Op Sail Hello, Actually, it should show as white on the bottoms of the E-2 and F-4 aircraft. They used to be painted light gull gray on top and white on the bottom. The newer paint jobs on some of the E-2s are now all gray. Most of the Navy aircraft used to carry the gray over white, but I am told that the Navy wanted something harder to see and since the Hawkeyes are not tactical aircraft, they still get the semi-gloss gray scheme. What's strange to me is that the H-3s used to be white on top and gray on bottom. As for anyone in the Virginia area next week, Op Sail 2000 is taking place with the big 3-4 hour parade of sail and other events going on starting Thursday June 15. Several ships are open to the public including USS Harry Truman. Ken -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Ned Barnett Subject: PT 109 and LCVP I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of a PT 109 that I won at auction, and have my eye on the Lindbergh LCVP (after the discussions here). I came across some UDT - LCVP photos in the Bulkley class book by Franklin, and that's got me thinking "conversion." So two questions (or maybe three). 1. Anybody know of sources for upgrade equipment for the 1/72 PT? 2. Anybody know of upgrade sources for the 1/32 LCVP? 3. Reference sources for either (I've got some fair PT references, but zippo on the LCVP). Thanks. BTW - if you have these items for sale, please post here or contact me directly ... Thanks Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Marc Flake Subject: Re: IPMS/USA Here's the list so far (in alphabetical order): Marc Flake Ed Grune Dave Miller Allan and Crystal Plumb Bruce Ross Rusty White Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "mcosta" Subject: Re: Spanish Ships Yes, at last someone interested in Spanish Ships, The Cervera class was a transformation of the British E class, but this ships suffer a transformation in the 40's. If you need photos or resources, please contact me of list. The heavy county class that you say was the Baleares and the Canarias, the hull was the same as the Sussex, but the superstructure was different. If you need plans, please contact me. There is many different Spanish ships, and all of them are very interesting subjets, a good source in internet is: http://web.forodigital.es/uphm/mgl/buques/buques.htm there are plenty of profiles and photos. Your friend Miguel Costa Mallorca, Spain -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Don Carner" Subject: Re: Whatcha Buildin'... Still sanding parts on Classic's 1/350th., CA-38 USS San Francisco. Thanks to Hugh at Colpar's in Aurora, CO., I got neat anchor chain and all the other "tid-bit's" I think I'll need to finish this project. Drawings from The Floating Drydock are making it sooo much easier on these tired, old eyeballs! Altho the kit is in 1942 config., I'm toying with an upgrade to it's '44 refit...no small task from the looks of it. Steve, why not bag a conversion kit for this purpose? The 1/700th rendition makes my eyes bleed, LOL! Also, I'm looking to get some good 3-views of the Curtis SOC Seagulls that were carried aboard and their markings. Other than that, it's quiet around here! Don Carner Toledo, OH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: IPMS/USA Nationals Count me in. I'll be there with bells on, or at least pants (a great comfort to all who attend I'm sure). Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Whatcha Readin? I've just picked up the Friedman books on Battleships and Cruisers, as companions to my earlier copy of his book on Submarines through 1945. I find his books exceptional values in spite of the price (I haunt used bookstores and online auctions to try to save on the $65 retail price, but I couldn't wait on his BB book). I also find Anthony Preston's books (Destroyers, Submarines) to be useful modeling references - information, but lots of photos! The artwork and reproduction make them worth the price to me. Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Peter K. H. Mispelkamp" Subject: Re: Graf Zeppelin air Wing Well, we are off to a good start, but we are still less than half the way there. To make things easier, I am listing the numbers of bags each of you are interested in below. If your name is on the list, please review and make certain sure that I have gotten the quantities and your names right! If it isn't, then we still need your support. Once we get over the half-way mark, I will contact WEM to see how much they will charge for an intial order of 20 bags of these little planes and break it down to a per-bag price including shipping charges. I am not sure about how to handle custums duties, and the cost of getting your share out to you, so I am open to suggestions. Feel free to contact me off list. BTW someone has made his own resin mold for the Fi 167 in 1/700. The picture looked great, and if any of you want to that way I will give you his address off-line. I am tempted myself, but want to see how many of you want to go the WEM route. Bf 109T Ju 87C Fi 167 Me: 3 2 2 Bob O'Conner 2 2 2 Doug Brown 2 2 2 Ned Barnett 1 1? 1? Sincerely Peter K. H. Mispelkamp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Old eyes/dropped parts >> My problem is with old eyes and a gray rug, I spend a lot of time on my knees with a spot light and magnifying glass looking for dropped parts, some of which seem to have been eaten by the rug. << Getting old is a cast-iron bitch; that's for sure. I can't figure whether to wear my bifocals, my reading glasses, or bear eyeballs (held real close) - or my ring-light magnifier (with or without glasses). It depends - if I'm doing preliminary work, sanding, etc. it's often at a small table in front (right in front) of the TV with a "Great Ships" episode or some nautical war movie on tape - then it's the reading glasses (or occasionally the bifocals if I want to see what's on the tube - such as "Longest Day" on June 6th). But for the fine work, it's almost the ring magnifier - and I'm still trying to decide whether the reading glasses help or hurt. As for the dropped parts, Math - I bought an inexpensive Testors plastic drop cloth at the hobby store - it's just a sheet of heavy-gauge plastic - that keeps most dropped parts off the carpet. Not to mention spilled paints. However, my bride (having decided that a garage is more useful for storing her car than it would be for me to build in a hobby room) is lobbying for me to get a trailer to park permanently next to the house (I've got my eye on a 10x21 construction shack, air-conditioned) to become my "hobby room" - if so, no carpets - period. It's kind of like dying and going to heaven - without having to die. A new dot.com client I picked up yesterday, which should last through this summer, may be funding that project (all the while thinking they're buying high-quality PR services ...) BTW - the house has a paved side-yard, designed for those oddballs with campers or boats or other outdoor-activity vehicles ... have you ever tried to build a model on a boat? I mean, what's the point? Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Submarine books Two comments from last edition: >> I can't comment on the two submarine books, not having seen them. << >> They have two faults: the awful typos and proofing typicalof the Naval Institute Press << I have both of the submarine books (now are any of you surprised by that fact??), and I find them very valuable for many but not all submarine modelling projects. They have a set of line drawings by Jim Christley (whom I've spoken to a several SUbCommittee SubRegattas) that are superb. Jim served on the boats and is an extremely fine artist. If you are looking for pre-WWII subs, the first book (US Submarines through 1945) is a genuine treasure trove, with R and S boat photos and drawings. Curiously, it is somewhat light on the Fleet boats of WWII; much better for that, and for post-war Guppy conversions is Alden's "Fleet Submarine in the US Navy". Volume 2, US Submarines since 1945 has a lot of very useful material and drawings for modern submarines, and is a very good read if you are interested in submarine development. apparently NIP thought there was too much material, asked Friedman to cut it down, and he did-placing the material instead in an enormous set of chapter appendices. The second comment above, about the typos and mistakes by NIP is sadly also evident in the production of these books. Many photos are printed reversed (hey, the propeller pitch is wrong....and the draft numbers are backwards!!), and the photos of the Nautilus' stern are way too dark to be useful. At one point, a submarine is photographed from bow and stern (I think it's the Skipjack class Shark). The stern shot is printed backwards, and the boat has mysteriously moved, as a result, to the other side of the double wide building slip.Too bad, as the text, drawings and many of the photos are superb. A first rate set of books ruined to some degree by NIP ineptness.... having said that, I wouldn't be without them in my library! Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "The Shannons" Subject: Re: Whatcha Buildin'? I'm building (FINISHING!!!!) a post-war Liberty ship using the skywave kit and the Tom's Modelworks brass. At this point, I have rigged the booms and masts, and all the things up to that. I still have the railings and aft auxillary steering position, then the "ocean" to finish it. I'm taking a break at the moment from the boom rigging, which is not the easiest thing to do in 1/700 scale. Mark Shannon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) Delivered-To: shipmodels@tac.com.au Subject: Re: 1/700 French Battlecruisers Dear John, I stand under correction, but I think that the Samek models would in all probability be better. With the Samek model you will also get a small photo-etch with the necessary kit specific parts. Look at the independent write up on this kit at : http://warship.simplenet.com/Samek/Dunkerque.htm Regards Pavel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Judy Graham" Subject: Re: Corvettes, JK &N Class Destroyers, and pleas for help, etc. To: Chris Langtree, re "J,K, & N" Class Destroyers, Malcolm, re "Desperate cry for help", for HMCS VANCOUVER, K240, and Mitsuaki (in Japan), re the Revell (Matchbox) HMCS SNOWBERRY, K166 Hi Guys, This is from Chris Preston (not 'Judy Graham' - she's my spouse, and it's her computer, which I'm allowed to use under supervision!) Starting with Chris Langtree's request, Chris - I have a very well used set of David Macgregor plans for HMS KASHMIR, in 1/96th scale. This is a 2 sheet set of drawings, consisting of a starboard side profile, and overhead deck plan "general arrangement" drawing, and a smaller sheet with a half breadth plan, body plan (stations), and hull profile (starboard side), showing plating detail, bilge keel positions, rudder, and prop shafts, and "A" frames. As I said they are well used, and somewhat faded/yellowed, but if the can handle being photo-copied, I can get you copies. For Mitsuaki, and Malcolm, I think I have the information you're both looking for. I started collecting this when I purchased one of the original issue Matchbox Corvettes when they first came out, so now I have 5 or 6 books on the subject, and 2 set of plans in 1/48th scale. Mitsuaki - a fellow model-club member here in Victoria, and one of the Curator's of the Base Museum in HMC DOCKYARD, at CFB Esquimalt (Naden), has a copy of the book "Gun Shield Graffiti", which cover's the art work found on the Gun Shields of Canadian Corvettes, during the Second World War. He's going to lone it to me, and I'll photo-copy the artwork for HMCS SNOWBERRY's gun shield. As for the wood planking on the deck, as near as I can tell, the only portion of the upper deck that was planked, was a large portion of the fo'c'sle deck, starting from directly under the central pivot point of the 4" gun mounting and platform, and extending forward to just forward of the anchor windlass, and bollards at the deck edge. According to "CANADA'S FLOWERS - History of the Corvettes of Canada", "decks and horizontal surfaces were to be painted B30 or G20", (Mid blue-grey, and Mid green-grey, respectively). Non-skid surfaces such as "Semtex" were not to be painted. According to the "Ensign" publication on the Flower Class Corvettes, the centre page fold out on HMCS SNOWBERRY advises that the Semtex non-skid areas of the deck were left their dark green colour. So..... from what I can determine, the steel decks were painted either B30 or G20. The "Semtex" covered areas were left in the "Semtex" natural colour, and the small area of teak deck up forward was left unpainted. On my model, I scraped-off, and sanded all the unnecessary planking detail from the decks. There was a fairly recent post on SMML by Dimi Apsotolopoulos who had taken the time to match the colours of the R.N.'s "Measure" system with Humbrol Paints, and while I printed this item off for myself, I don't know what volume it's from (aarrgghh)! But I can get you a copy of it. Malcolm - I checked all my references, and here's what I've been able to determine. For the photo finishing with "k240docked", this shows the VANCOUVER tied up alongside a jetty at HMC Dockyard, in Esquimalt, B.C., in September, 1943, after she had a refit to lengthen her fo'c'sle, and sporting a brand new (and clean) paint job. All ships of the RCN were painted in standard RN colours, with corvettes in particular being painted in the appropriate Admiralty Disruptive, or Western Approaches colour schemes, and dispite the VANCOUVER and the other Canadian ships serving with US Naval Forces in the North West Pacific and the Aleutians, they were all painted as above. I am unable to confirm what the colours are that the VANCOUVER is wearing in the photos, but the "alongside" photo matches the colour scheme of another West Coast Corvette that took part in the Aleutians Campaigne - HMCS DAWSON, K104. She is shown on P. 34 of CANADA'S FLOWERS, and described by the author (Thomas G. Lynch) as wearing the Admiralty Disruptive scheme of Medium Grey panels over an Off-White hull. Again, the DAWSON's colour scheme is a very close match to that worn by the VANCOUVER. To cover you questions in your poste of 10 JUNE, I think item "D" is due to a poor reproduction of the orgional photo, or natural shading on the hull, or possibly a deteriorating paint job at the time of the photo. Item "F" would be Medium Grey applied to the funnel in a band around the top. The overall colour (Base-coat) would be Off White (items "A", "S", and "U") for all vertical surfaces, with the panels on the hull being the a/m Medium Grey (item "T"). The 2 phots shwing the VANCOUVER underway - "k240overhead", and "k240underway" seem to be of a different date, possibly later, as the white panel - item "S", in the alongside photo, seems to have been painted over, and a dark Funnel band added, probably during the Aleutians Campaigne, and during a "Short-work period" alongside. As for the deck colours, I think I covered that for Misuaki, above. The visible portion of the Cowl Ventilators on the Engine Room Casing appears to be the same colour as the rest of the surrounding ship's structure - Off White. Also, note that the VANCOUVER has a standard Admiralty Issue 27' Whaler, starboard side, (one only), in place of the earlier 2 x 16' dinghy's, as seen in the Matchbox/Revell Corvette kit. I hope all this answers all your questions, (and that I've got this right, Mr. Raven). The following books were used as references: 1. "Gun Shiel Graffiti" 2. "CANADA'S FLOWERS - History of the Corvettes of Canada", by Thomas G. Lynch, ISBN 0-920852-15-7 3. "ENSIGN 3 - Flower Class Corvettes", by Allen Raven & Anthony Preston (no ISBN available) 4. "CORVETTES of the Royal Canadian Navy 1939-1945", by Ken Macpherson & Marc Milner, ISBN 0-920277-83-7 5. "The Flower Class Corvette AGASSIZ", ("Anatomy of the Ship" series) by John McKay & John Harland, ISBN 1-55068-084-6 6. "The Ship's of Canada's Naval Forces, 1910-1981", by Ken MacPherson & John Burgess, ISBN 0-00-216856-1 7. "Royal Navy Warship Camouflage 1939-1945", by Peter Hodges, Almark Publications. (Not used for this disertation). E-mail me with your addresses, or call me at (250) 744-2386. Cheers, Chris Preston, Victoria, B.C Canada. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Thorsbyg@aol.com Subject: Queries I have studied your website for some time. I have recently begun assembling Spanish American and WW1 models. I have three questions. 1) What are the trade offs between plastic and resin models besides price. 2) In painting these guys, how does one do a smooth waterline paint border 3) if I wanted to alter a model to a waterline method, how could this be done? Thanks Gordon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Bill Code" Subject: whatcha building hello fello ship modelers, My honey -do list is just about taken care of.. Just finnishing up a hardwood floor in livingroom and hall..Needless to say i havent been modeling much. Will return to hellers 1/100 HMS Victory soon. Ive finally completed her 1st gun deck and Im installing a few gun crews were I think they might be seen from the boat cradles ...took awhile to rig all those cannons with block and tackle. Main Deck is painted and im sanding it down to bring back the wood grain..Will be nice to install it and then can close up the bows. Im looking for any info on Lockhead S3-A Viking aircraft..I want to fold the wings and add drop tanks to a 1/48 viking with my old Squadron markings VS-24 Redtails as of 1978..I have the FSM article but need more info on the wing hinge. regards Bill Code -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: "Chris Christenson" Subject: white glue I have used a white glue that dries clear called RC56 made by (at least my bottle was) J & Z Products Inc. IIRC I got mine at a Hobbytown shop several years ago. This glue has some good stick-um properties with nonporous surfaces. In fact, I use it to glue canopies on my radio-controlled airplanes---I'm sorry I said the "A" word, please don't hurt me!!!---and it holds up well--at airspeeds of 100+ mph no canopy has blown off yet, or been affected by fuel or cleaners. I doubt if it is sandable. The bonding features seem to make it an excellent choice for attaching PE but I have not tried it for that yet. One other thing is that the company that made it may be out of business or sold it off, but I'm not sure. The last address I knew of was: J & Z Products, Inc. 25029 So. Vermont Ave. Harbor City CA, 90710 Chris Christenson Ord Nebraska 100 degrees and 30mph winds -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Kudos I'm pleased to announce that SMML member Sami Arim was a winner in today's IPMS Silverwings (Sacramento) annual contest. Sami's 1/700 HMS HOOD, with extensive WEM details, took first place in the Ships category, AND was awarded best of show! It's a Nationals-quality model. Way to go, Sami! John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys http://www.shipcamouflage.com Hi Sami, Congrats on your win. Shane & Lorna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Whatchabuildin? Hey, neat thread--been heads down in PageMaker and press checks, worring a job thru the mill all week. Came up for fresh air on SMML and was pleasantly surprised. I'm fiberglassing a 1/192nd scratchbuild of the corvette HMCS AGASSIZ using and McKay & Ross' book of the same name and Canadian Navy plans as my primary reference. Fun model to build, fairly simple for a warship and it's coming along nicely. Note to John about Friedman's books: get them and enjoy. I have his Small Combatant and Destroyer books. They've been elevated to well-worn status as prized references. Will be ordering his Cruiser book soon. seeyalaterbye, Victor Baca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: RhinoBones@aol.com Subject: Resin Warp During the past week or so there was a pretty good thread which explored the various ways of getting warp out of resin ship hulls. Below is an excerpt from the current issue of Internet Modeler of an article posted by a fellow named Steve Perry. Steve is describing his build of a WW I Albatros and his method of getting the warp out of the two halves of the resin fuselage. The method is rather simple and judging from the results of his build . . . it works very well. The quote is as follows: "" Building the Artur Albatros D.II by Steve Perry The inherent warp in the fuselage halves that made them curve away from each other was fixed by placing the parts flat side down on a piece of hard flat composite material (fake marble) under a 100 watt bulb no closer than 18" . That warp relaxed and those pieces flattened out and fit together well . "" Pretty simple procedure. If anything goes wrong you can always turn off the lamp. By the way . . . Steve's Albatros build is an absolutely beautiful. Check it out at the Internet Modeler: http://www.internetmodeler.com/ Regards, RhinoBones Hi, You can also check out Steve's personal page for more of his outstanding work at: http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ Also in the current Internet Modeller, he helps his young daughter build a F-18 Hornet - Great stuff ;-) Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: "Pletscher-Lenz-Schneider" Subject: 1/700 French Battlecruisers I guess there is one big reason to prefere the WSW kit, and that is their greater skill in making model kits. For example, all the rangefinders and guns are casted completely as one piece each. With the Samek kit, however, you still have to assemble them. You have to cement the rangefinder bars to the hoods and there is not even a hole to fit them in. Also fitting all the gun barrels and sometimes even the rangfinders to the turrets means a lot of unneccessary work. Further, the WSW kit holds more small parts. There are all the light AA guns that the Samek kit doesn't show. And, if it was not for this all, there is a very nice detail on the WSW kit. They managed to cast a real anchor chain on the forecastle, no flat PE parts, no semi-profile, a real full-plastic chain. I have not yet checked out this point with the STRASBOURG kit, but generally WSW kits show the best possible detailing you can get at their time. There are however - still - no PE parts. Falk Pletscher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: "philip knell" Subject: Re: scale model warships revue having done the same as kurt van dahm and gone straight out and bought this book i must agree with just about everything he has said it is very dissapointing and not at all as the title suggests i have to agree don't buy it phil knell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "David's Mail" Subject: Re: What are you building I am currently building the Heller 1:400 Battleship Richelieu. An odd configuration but I like it. Also Tamiya Swordfish (both versions) I have partly built kits all over the workbench. And the wife has never complained once, in fact I tell her exactly what I want and she searches for it in the course of doing her job as an auditor. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: "aa8." Subject: Glencoe WW1 U.S. Navy Subchaser kit I notice on the side of the box Of Glencoe's Oregon kit that there is an illustration of a WW1 US Navy Subchaser.I have some questions that you kind Ladies and Gentlemen may be able to answer. 1) Does this kit exist? 2) If it does, is it currently available? 3) What scale is it? 4) What is it's history (ie how old are the moulds? etc etc). I am relatively new to ship modelling so all this may be common knowledge. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: "NICK & JOY ROGERS" Subject: ROYAL NAVY BOFORS MK VI SEXTUPLE 40MM ANTI-AIRCRAFT MOUNTINGS Help Wanted, Am making 1/450 scale Hasegawa HMS VANGUARD kit. Are any drawings and/or images of these six barrel 40mm Bofors mountings available? Are any of the mountings still extant? HMS VANGUARD (1946) had ten Bofors Mark VI mounts. An inspection of my dusty Fujimi 1/700 scale HMS ARK ROYAL (1951) suggests she had 7 of these contraptions.Any other Royal Navy warships carry these AA-mounts? I note from Dulin & Garzke's `British Battleships' tome, the MK VI mount was a rework of the classic 8-barrel Pom-Pom AA-weapon going for the "relatively higher velocity" of 40mm Bofors gun. I also suggest that the U.S. Navy abandoned 20mm and 40mm AA batteries for 3" (76mm) `plane stopper' AA batteries Post- WWII.The U.S. relying on prominity fused shells and reliable radar control rather than multitudes of AA-barrels. Did the Royal Navy still believe in AA barrage defenses for their battleships and carriers post WWII? Finally, is there the prospect of any resin 1/700 scale kit of HMS VANGUARD in the near future? I think Samek are planning one.What about WEM? Regards, Nick Rogers. New Zealand. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Mike" Subject: T-shirts...... Well, I'm hoping to grab enough space in the current web site to squeeze in a new page on the shirts with a pic......will be a LOT easier when I get the new account finalised and the revamp moving properly !!!!!! If anyone wants the info & pic, mail me off-list. Mike SMML Webmaster -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Peter K. H. Mispelkamp" Subject: Kit wanted Heller 1/400 scale HMS Illustrious. I will pay a reasonable price. Sincerely Peter K. H. Mispelkamp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: White Ensign Models (WEM) webpages updated! Hi Group, I have updated the webpages with the following: WEM Photoetched brass pages (1/700,1/600, 1/400 and 1/350 Scale). Please Click here http://whiteensignmodels.simplenet.com/wembrass/wembrass for some excellent news for fans of 1/600 Scale and 1/570 Scale Airfix and Revell ship kits. New Kits, Books and the latest arrivals can be found at http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/whatsnew.htm For more general news, please check out my "News" pages: all other new pages can be linked to from this location. http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/news.htm Many Thanks! Caroline Carter Business Manager and Web-Mistress http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models White Ensign Models, for a fine range of photoetched brass for 1/600, 1/700 and 1/350 scale kits, and THE finest warship kits and upgrades in the world -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Model Ship Journal: Its Almost Here Last Friday, I flew down the I-5 and hustled to the printer's for a first look at the new Model Ship Journal. It was on-time and actually a day early for the text section. What a jumpin' for joy sight to behold. It looks good. Better than good. It's great! Get a subscription, you'll really like it. Honest. Victor Baca Model Ship Journal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://www.smml.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume