Subject: SMML VOL 966 Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 00:19:18 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: USN Order of Battle 1941 2: Re: USN Order of Battle 3: Re: PT "zebra" pattern 4: Hms Curosaoco 5: Re: HMS CUracoa 6: Need help with USS ENTERPRISE decal set 7: Re: Vestal 8: HMS Invincible 9: Re: HMS Hood Model Inputs- Bandai 1/2000 scale kit 10: Les Wilkins' Book -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMMLcon Infomation & posts 1: Re: SMML "Reception" 2: Re: IPMS-SMML Reception -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Web site upload 2: Vestal & the PHD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Re: USN Order of Battle 1941 US fleet -12/7/41 Pacific Fleet Hawaii: WestVirginia, Pennyslvania, California, Tennesee, Maryland, Nevada, Arizona, Oklahoma, New Orleans, San Franisco, Phoenix, Helena, Honolulu, St.Louis, Raleigh,and Detroit. Near Midway Island: Lexington, Chicago, Portland, Astoria. Near Hawaii: Enterprise, Northampton, Chester, Salt Lake City, Minneapolis. Johnston Island: Indianapolis Escort duty: Penscola, Louisville Philippines: Houston, Boise, Marblehead San Diego Saratoga, Concord South America Trenton, Richmond Bremerton, Washington: Colorado Atlantic Fleet: New Mexico, Idaho, Mississippi, New York, Texas, Arkanas, North Carolina, Washington Wasp, Yorktown, Ranger, Hornet, Long Island, Wichita, Augusta, Tuscloosa, Vinncennes, Quincy, Brookyln, Savannah, Nashville, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Omaha, Cincinnati,and Memphis. I hope this of help. Craig Bennett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Roland Mar Subject: Re: USN Order of Battle To: Donald Morgan You might try "The Ships and Aircraft of the US Fleet" by James C. Fahey for the appropriate year. It should still be available in reprint form from US Naval Institute Press. Hope this helps. Roland Mar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: PT191@aol.com Subject: Re: PT "zebra" pattern TO GEORGE COST: CONTACT PT BOATS, INC. AT WWW.PTBOATS.ORG, THEY CAN HELP YOU WITH THE ZEBRA CAMOUFLAGE SCHEME. TELL THEM I SENT YOU. T. GARTH CONNELLY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Re: Hms Curosaoco Specculation, smeculation my rear end, Too many dinkies with G Arnolld, she was in overall Mountanbatten Pink. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Re: HMS CUracoa Too many Margarities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: BEN8800@aol.com Subject: Need help with USS ENTERPRISE decal set Can't supply a picture, but the set developed by Duane Fowler is terrific, and appropriate for any time frame. The most useful decals are the red and yellow foul lines around the elevators. Each elevator is separate and a complete decal. However, to apply you need to cut it in sections so it is easier to work with. The stripes are very narrow and short strips about 2 or 3 inches install easiest. I would say it is almost impossible to install the decal in one piece around an elevator. The set is worth it for that. The lines are very much to scale. The set also includes red and white stripes for the foul lines in way of catapults forward, but there is not quite enough to do the foul lines on the sides of the landing area. In fact, the instructions do not show this at all. There is an American flag which is bigger than the Tamiya kit, and is supposed to be the correct size. The set includes the Big E, and Enterprise decals for the Island, and the large 65 for the bow which is not in the Tamiya kit. )Stupid of Tamiya). Also, these letters come in solid white and white outlined black which is used on current carriers. Also for the Island are the warning signs for prop/jet blast that are corrected replacements for the Tamiya decals. This is a great decal sheet, but I suggest you buy two sheets. The thin lines are easy to screw up, so a back up sheet is essential in my book. This decal sheet is really a required sheet for the model. Without it, you got nothin but a lot of work ahead of you. Ben Lankford -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: TCAgardner@aol.com Subject: Re: Vestal Rob, As far as I know there isn't any PE in the Vestal kit. Having done the casting for Corsair on this particular kit, I didn't hear Michael mention anything about adding PE to it. Normally he doesn't include any in his kits that I'm aware of. The kit comes cast in a light gray resin. He's done a really nice job on the pattern work (very clean). As usual, his instructions are well thought out and easy to read (this coming from a person who has never built a ship kit in his life but who makes a living producing them) even I could put it together with no problem. I'm sure it will make a very nice addition to any Pearl Harbor Dio or on its own. Tom of JAG -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "James Morley" Subject: HMS Invincible If anyone has any plans to visit Greenwich, London in the next week (to visit the Maritime Museum, Cutty Sark or whatever), they will also find that HMS Invincible, (Royal Navy 677 ft mini-aircraft carrier) is moored alongside on the Thames. I watched the tugs turning it around the Millenium Dome (!) yesterday. I don't know yet whether it will be open to the public (but I can't imagine it won't - what's the point in having it there?), but I hear rumours that the Sea Harriers on board will be conducting flying ops over London as part of the Military Tattoo 2000. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Mitsuaki Kubota Subject: Re: HMS Hood Model Inputs- Bandai 1/2000 scale kit Hi Frank, The BANDAI 1:2000 series were originally issued about 20 years ago. These kits have been out of products for a long time, but reissued from Chinese FUMAN label recently. The Hood kit depicts as she was sunk. Mostly common to the BANDAI 1:2000 series, the hull parts are separated to three pieces, one piece above WL, and two pieces of bottom hull. Regrettably, the hull parts ignore side armour plating line and have no propellers. Most of small parts like boats and Pom Pom guns are molded to the deck, so modellers have to give the shading effect to the kit by himself. The kit profiles are generally good, but bow stem doesn't have resemblance. I purchased one kit of FUMAN products, but the flashes tell the age. I bought it at my local hobbyshop for 300 yen , but another hobbyshop sold it at 2000 yen! Best regards, Mitsuaki Kubota -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Michael D'Silva" Subject: Les Wilkins' Book >> Trying to find out if Les Wilkins models are still on display in Manitowac Wi. I still think his book on plastic ship building is the best around. << >> Some more information on this book, please? Title, ISBN, subjects covered? Is it still in print? << David, You're quite right, Les' book is definitely the best around - especially for a beginner or even an intermediate modeller. It is also an excellent reference source for those who have progressed a bit further. The emphasis is on period model ships (sailing ships) with many invaluable hints, tips and techniques. In fact, the book almost leads the modeller by the hand in many areas. Although written pre Photoetch era, the basic techniques outlined would provide a very solid foundation for anyone interested in building plastic model ships. Put it together with Mike Ashey's book, Building and Detailing Scale Model Ships, and you have practically all the 'getting started' and 'how tos' to make you a formidable model shipwright. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on the availability of this book but I have provided comprehensive details which should make your quest that much easier. Title: How To Build Plastic Ship Models Author: Les Wilkins ISBN: 0-89024-552-5 Publisher: Kalmbach Books (http://corporate.kalmbach.com/) First Printing, 1980. Second Printing, 1989. These are all the details you'll need, provided the book is still in print. Guess you could always try second hand book shops or one of the auction sites on the Internet. I bought mine in 1991-92, and wouldn't part with it for anything. It taught me all the basic modelling skills I know and I still refer to it, from time to time. The subjects covered are: Chapter 1. Getting Ready: Work Area and Tools Adhesives and Fillers, Paints, Brush Painting, Airbrushes, Compressors, and Research. Chapter 2. Sailing Ships: Basic Hull Assembly - Hull jigs, Reinforcing hull joints, Filling the hull seam, Painting the inside of the hull, Painting the outside of the hull, Painting the waterline, Simulating a copper bottom. Assembling Decks - Painting and detailing decks, Deck detailing with a knife, Deck detailing with Brillo pads, Painting small deck details, More about deck detailing, Eyebolts, Installing the deck, Making a real wooden deck. Assembling Cabins and Deckhouses - Glazing portholes and windows, Pinrails, fife rails, and belaying pins. Masts, Boats and Guns - Yard and studding booms, Jackstays, Stirrups and footropes, Wooldings, Deadeyes, blocks, and ratlines, Martingale stays, Stepping the masts, Boats, Guns and gun carriages. Chapter 3. Rigging: Standing Rigging, Running Rigging and Rigging Materials. Installing Standing Rigging - Shrouds and ratlines. Installing Running Rigging - Blocks. Sails - Detailing plastic sails, Attaching plastic sails to yards, Fabric sails, Attaching the yards, Making and attaching rope coils, Finishing touches. Chapter 4. Building The President: This chapter shows, step-by-step, how Les and his students modified an existing kit (Revell's USS Constitution (H-398)) and converted it into a sister ship, the USS President. Chapter 5. Steel Ships: Assembling The Hull, Steel Decks, Assembling The Superstructure, Masts and Antennae, Modern Naval Ordnance, Stretching Plastic Sprue, Boats and Rafts, Fishing Vessels, Ocean Liners, Submarines, Colours, Camouflage, Painting Camouflage Patterns, Weathering Steel Ships, Waterline Models. Appendix - Flags: Choosing The Right Flags, Flags In Kits, Homemade Flags. Good luck on your quest, Michael D'Silva Melbourne, Australia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMMLcon Infomation & posts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Bruce Burden Subject: Re: SMML "Reception" >> I vote for Saturday. Since Friday is the first day the public will be allowed in the vendor's room, we'll likely be a little busy that morning... << Thursday at 3:00PM the Convention opens to the hordes... Bruce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Marc Flake Subject: Re: IPMS-SMML Reception Voting so far: Friday morning-- 2 Saturday afternoon-- 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "webmaster" Subject: Web site upload Hi, The latest set of Archives are now uploaded, and indexed. Also uploaded is the SMML Convention badge - sorry this has been a while; we have had some space problems, now resolved, and I am now able to get it available for you all to see. I'd just like to remind people that we are always on the look-out for reviews, articles and imagery related to ships - drop me a line if you aren't certain if we would include it, or if you'd like some ideas on what we would like to add to the site. The cut-off date for T-shirts to be sent to the US for the Nationals has now passed. Please note that all t-shirt orders should initially be via an email (a new form will be forthcoming shortly), with the cheque/IMO sent to the address on the form - and remember to include the form as well! Mike SMML Webmaster -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Mike C" Subject: Vestal & the PHD My 1/700 Vestal kit is out and now available from Pacific Front Hobbies. Colpar Hobby Shop and Brookhurst Hobbies should have some by Monday, and there will be some available at Dallas, as well. The kit depicts the ship as she appeared on the morning of 7 December 1941, and is all resin with no photoetch - everything that would require photoetch is pretty generic (rails, ladders, etc.) and already available from other manufacturers. I am going on the supposition that most people building resin ships already have supplies of these. Any questions or comments are welcomed at: (mike713@hotmail.com) On a separate note, I regret to announce that I am withdrawing from the Pearl Harbor Diorama Project. I have been trying for more than a year to get Jeff to make good on what have turned into empty promises and I'm done begging. You'll need a new volunteer to do two CVLs. You are welcomed to keep my contribution of a Skywave Atlanta and two Hasegawa Essex kits (which included my open 5"/38 gun sets) and I wish the rest of you the best of luck with the project. I hope someone posts photos of it somewhere when it's finished. In the mean time, I'm back at work on the Wasp. Have fun, Mike Czibovic Corsair Armada Productions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://www.smml.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume