Subject: SMML VOL 1009 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:16:44 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Thanks 2: Re: Kursk 3: Slightly off the subject 4: Re: Pictures of King George V 5: Soviet MBK Armored gunboats 6: Lindberg's Jolly Roger 7: Yamato & rigging 8: Re: Ugliest warship model 9: UGLEEEEEE 10: Re: Kit manufacturers - New kit 11: Airfix 1/600 QE2 Part #24 12: model boats uk 13: FriedrichFiles No. 6 14: Re: London/GB 15: Chinese Cruiser 16: Remarkable news (a brief brag, if you will) 17: 1/600 HMAS Sydney conversion 18: Modelling tips ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Miyukikai (MYCO) 1/200 Warship Plans 2: Contemporary Aircraft Carrier 3: Model Ship Journal-New Subscriber Info 4: Photo Sources-Photomarine Archives ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1) From: Shane & Lorna Subject: Thanks Hi gang, Just a quick note to thank the SMMLies we visited while in Queensland. It was great putting faces to names & we both had a great time meeting you all. If any SMMLie has the chance to meet listmembers, go for it - it's well worth the experience. We managed to get pictures of HMAS Diamantina, which will be appearing on the SMML site once the photos are developed & plenty of other Off Topic shots as well from various museums in Queensland. Regards, Shane & Mistress Lorna ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 2) From: URUDOFSKY@aol.com Subject: Re: Kursk Take a look at the 1:1250 model of the KURSK. Argos Schiffsminiaturen under the Red Star label is now gearing up to produce models of the Russian/Soviet navies. Their premier model in this risky venture is the KURSK. www.us-argos.com. Ulrich Rudofsky ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 3) From: Schiefet@cs.com Subject: Slightly off the subject Greetings, Does anyone know of a good free or at least cheap source of info on the 5'/38 twin mounts? I trying to help a fellow and his two sons give one of the mounts on the Salem a face lift. We are looking for details of the interior of the mount, crew positions and so on. I seem to recall once seeing a diagram of the crew positions inside a twin mount in a publication many years ago. I tried the obvious - the library aboard the Salem. Unfortunately Jim did not have any 5"/38 information. Tried the Gunner's mates assoc. A chief offered help and never came through. Tried NavSea, but got the run around. Likewise Gunner's Mate school at Great Lakes. Anyone out there have any ideas? Thanks for the help. Steve Singlar Pelham, NH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 4) From: " kjetil Lindahl" Subject: Re: Pictures of King George V For pictures of King George V and Howe in 1945 configuration check out the Ausralian War Memorial Photograph database: http://www.awm.gov.au/database/photo.asp?searchtype=simple It has very good pictures. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 5) From: d gregory Subject: Soviet MBK Armored gunboats Can anyone help me find pictures or drawings of the Soviet MBK Armored Gunboats used in the Baltic in WW2? These were the seagoing versions of the Type 1124/1125 boats with the T-34 Tank turrets. I know they had 2 -76mm in turrets, at least 1- 37mm and some lighter guns. The two photos I had are too poor to use to build anything by. Also, does anyone have pictures/drawings of Soviet built WW2 landing craft, particularly the bigger ones that could carry tanks? Thanks!! Dave Gregory The P.T. Dockyard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 6) From: "Steven P. Allen" Subject: Lindberg's Jolly Roger Can anyone who's built this kit give me an approximation on its scale, judging my its fittings, guns, etc? Does it have figures? What's the quality of the kit? Thanks in Advance, Steve Allen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 7) From: "edger1" Subject: Yamato & rigging I know that the list has beaten questions about the Yamato kits to death but I have some more. I purchased the Tamiya 1/350th and the Gold Medal Models PE set but I can't find any available books or plans that would help in making it look presentable. Does anyone know of any in produciton refs? Also, are there any recommendations for paints and colors? A final query concerns rigging for WWII surface ships. I've noticed that the good models all have very nice rigging and having done WWI aircraft, I have me material preferences already, but where does one find the layouts for an accurate depiction? Thanks for any help. Dave Edgerly Austin, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 8) From: Neil842861@cs.com Subject: Re: Ugliest warship model Am I the only person who wept after reading the article on converting a Revell 1:570 North Carolina class to a "never to sail" model. As a 1:600'ish modeller who has converted, scrap built and 'guilded the lily' on numerous Airfix, Lindburg and Aurora warships and Liners(in military guise) I find it very frustrating to hear of a model being "lost" when here in the UK this particular model is impossible to obtain. I have laid down in my loft three Iowa's (Kangnam/Arii) one of which I will attempt to convert to a Carolina with a great deal of scrap building. If I had a Revell kit I could combine the two! Incidently is anyone else interested in being part of a bulk order to White Ensign for a resin twin 5" turret to replace all those Lindburg and Kangnam mis-shaped and inacurate offerings. Neil Taylor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 9) From: john.baumann@talk21.com Subject: UGLEEEEEE SMML VOL 1005: 3) From: "Matthew Prager" Subject: 1/250 figures Any idea were I can find 1/250 scale figures to convert to sailors? Matt Prager I am reliably informed that Dixon Miniatures DID do them, but they may no longer be available. Sorry but I have no other leads: From: "O'Connor" Subject: UGLEEEEEE >> You want ugly????If they can be called ships,(they were nautical objects,for sure!!), the Vietnam era USN Monitors and other assorted brown water navy conversions certainly qualify as arguably the most ugly of naval vessels, except perhaps to the men who served upon them. Just my opinion. << The Wargame model company, S&S in the UK, did a set of some 5 Brown Water Navy boats ranging from a seal support boat to a large Monitor Vessel. Being a newcommer to the SMML forum, what is the opinion about the NEW dragon kit? John Baumann ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 10) From: roberto paredes Subject: Re: Kit manufacturers - New kit Some days ago Pelle wrote to Caroline, Rusty, Joe D'Amato and others not named: >> there anyway is a growing interest in naval items in this country, may I ask for an estimation about what amount of preorders that are needed to make it financially feasible to design and manufacture a brand new kit? << I'm one of the future buyers to Tre Kronor-class, and I know many others modelers that they wanted to have a Tre Kronor in their collection. Regards, Roberto. Chile ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 11) From: Ata Bilgili Subject: Airfix 1/600 QE2 Part #24 I recently acquired an Airfix 1/600 QE2 kit that is missing the part number 24 (wheel house cover). Humbrol does not have it any more since this kit was last released in 1993. Do you guys know of any source for missing parts for vintage kits or any QE2 kit that you would like to get rid of with the missing part in it? In the meantime, I will keep looking for it on EBay :) ... Thank you, ata mailto:aqualung@nemo.unh.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 12) From: "sel4853" Subject: model boats uk See the following site for really good information especially for scratch building as well as kits: http://www.modelboats.co.uk/ Norman Sells UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 13) From: Friedrich Kappes Subject: FriedrichFiles No. 6 Has anybody answers to those questions?? Rackoon (French corvette, captured in 1801) completed in ? Ranger (Brit. destroyer 1896) line drawing Rixhöft (former Smok, tug) date of completion S 29, S 38-53, S 62-99, S 301-425 (German MTBs, so-called S-boats or E-boats of WWII) line drawings San Damsco (Spanish ship of the line) correct name, date of commission San José (Spanish ship of the line) date of commission Schelde (Dutch tug, acquired in 1915 by Germany) date of completion Shakespeare-class (Brit. destroyer 1918) line drawing Sunfish (Brit. destroyer 1896) line drawing T 1 (German minelayer ~1909, deployed to Chinese colony) date of commission Thetis-class (German corvettes, 1961) minecapacity Tjaldur (1953, passenger transport) range, draught Todva (Russian repairship ~1954) date of commission Tyne (Brit. Supplier WWII) dates of rebuilts Venus (1931, Norwegian transport) range Viator (Norwegian transport, 1941) line drawing Victory (British ship of the line) are there others than those of 1737 and 1765 with a lenght of 68,27m (3500 ts)? Weser (German fire fighting vessel) date of commission SEARCH ALSO FOR: her daughterboat´s line drawing Zhelesnyakov (Russian rivergunboat WWII) date of commission Thank you in advance!!! Friedrich The FriedrichFiles ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 14) From: john.baumann@talk21.com Subject: Re: London/GB With regards to the question on good bookstores and model shops in London. The best place to start is Foyles of London (known as the biggest bookshop in the world!) located in Charing Cross Road (a short walk from Tottenham Court Road Underground Station). This street is littered with book shops, both new and second hand, all the way along towards Leicester Square. One hidden gem is Motor Books in St. Martins Court, there are two outlets, one for aircraft and ships, another for afv's and transport of all types. Start out early armed with a good map (A-Z of London reccomended). Foyles can take you a good 2-3 hours of browsing. Another tip is to check out the local Yellow Pages Phone Book (or the web based version before you arrive) for Model shops. A large portion of these have closed down but I checked recently and was surprised at the number of current entries. A large proportion of these now cater for 'Toys' essentially, so call beforehand. For railway modellers a trip to Victors (Pentonville Road) would be essential - from memory they have little if anything model ship wise. Happy Hunting: John Baumann (London based) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 15) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Chinese Cruiser There's a turn-of-the-century (or earlier) armored cruiser available from a Chinese model firm (Zengfendu or something like that). Anybody know where I can get it? I understand it's a candidate for the Sow's Ear contest, but I'm a sucker for armored ships of that era ... Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 16) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Remarkable news (a brief brag, if you will) Some of you know of my fascination with history, especially military history - and REALLY especially the technology of military history. A few may even know that I've been published a few times on revolutionary technology that transformed the face of military activity (i.e., the first military revolver - the Whitneyville Walker Colt - used in the Mexican War; the first widely-used US breech-loading rifle - the trap-door Springfield; the introduction of tanks into US offensive combat operations at Guadalcanal; the first military supersonic-in-level-flight combat fighter, the F-100 Super Sabre - which first scored a "kill" by accidentally shooting down a B-52 using one of the first air-to-air guided missiles, etc.). Not exactly best-seller material, but still it keeps me off the streets and out of the pool halls. But it has now led to something really exciting (to me). Thanks to my willingness (i.e., bald-faced chutzpah) to respond to a ProfNet listing from Modern Marvels (a History Channel program), I've now been asked to appear on-camera in the next two weeks (taping - I have no idea when the program will first air) as an "expert" on the technology transfer between military and civilian sectors (specifically, what has the military developed that later became useful to civilians - stuff like jet engines and the Internet). As an ego boost beyond words (to someone who idolized the Mercury Astronauts as a kid), another interviewee will be John Glenn - while I won't meet him, just being on the same program is a real mind-blower to me. Sorry for the brag (not really ), but this is news I couldn't keep to myself. It's got nothing to do with PR, but it sure is a big thrill to me ... Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 17) From: "leigh crutchley" Subject: 1/600 HMAS Sydney conversion I wish to subscribe my interest in conversion of the the Airfix HMS Ajax to the Australian Cruiser HMAS Sydney. Regards. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 18) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Modelling tips In honor of the hopefully imminent return of SMML, I'll even contribute 2 tips. 1. Testors canopy cement makes a great non-permanent adhesive for temporarily securing parts so that they can be painted as assemblies, then readily separated again for further construction. The parts easily pry apart with the application of a knife edge. I use it to secure landing wheel well doors and hatches ion tanks to paint, then reassemble with the doors and hatches open. Additionally the stuff makes great fillet material to create smoothly blended seams where parts are glued together. It takes paint quite nicely and is easy to apply precisely due to the fine point on the spout. Thirdly it makes pretty good stickem for securing PE parts. 2. A dental amalgam application tool, the thingee that dentists use to squeeze filler into a tooth, makes a great tool for applying filler to air bubbles in resin. Regards, Bradford Chaucer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1) From: Bill Gruner Subject: Miyukikai (MYCO) 1/200 Warship Plans To all those who have ordered or inquired about the Miyukikai warship plans, here's the latest: We sent off a very large order to MYCO in June but never received anything. We sent out a inquiry to the USPS about our money orders, and received a refund as the checks were never cashed. We also sent out a letter on inquiry to Mr.Haruo Takami of Miyukikai, asking if the money had been received. Yesterday we received a phone message from Mr. Takami explaining that the plans had been sent out a month ago, but he had mistakenly sent the plans to our old address in Washington. So it all adds up to a big mess, which we are trying to sort out. Today we will try to locate the package in Kirkland, hopefully it has been forwarded to us, but possibly returned to Japan. We hope to get the plans to you who have ordered them ASAP. Thanks, Bill Gruner PS..Just got in a large re-stock of Gakken books on IJN vessels...both Yamatos, Shinano/Taiho, Akizuki, Takao, Hiryu/Soryu, IJN Subs, Nagato and Kongo. ..Myoko and Ise/Hyuga due in 4-5 weeks. Also have W-R Press Royal Navy Camouflage 1939-41 for $25.00. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 2) From: "David Zickl" Subject: Contemporary Aircraft Carrier Hi, I'm a production coordinator working on a print advertisement that features a waterskier skiing behind an aircraft carrier. We are going to photograph a real waterskier but we need a realistic model of a carrier to add to the picture digitally with a computer. I'm looking for someone in southern California who has a photo realistic model of a contemporary aircraft carrier like the "Enterprise" that I can rent for this photo shoot. Can you put me in contact with any one who may have one? RC would be nice but is not necessary. Best Regards, David Zickl Please respond directly to David if you can help. Shane ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 3) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Model Ship Journal-New Subscriber Info The September, 2000 issue of Model Ship Journal has gone to press. It contains quite a lot of modeling info and prototype photos in this issue which marks one of the first articles by Loren Perry since his Scale Ship Modeler days, it's one you won't want to miss. All new subscribers can begin their subscriptions with the September issue IF you call or mail in your subscription order by 15 September. That is the date we will mail the magazine to subscribers in one big bulk mailing. After 15 September, both Issue Zero (Premier) and September issue will be available as back issues at cover price including 1st class mailing. If you'd like to subscribe, call us toll free in the U.S. at (877)371-0290 or (360) 371-0290 if outside U.S. You can also find us on the web at www.modelshipjournal.com for full subscription information. Best Regards, Victor Baca Editor & Publisher MODEL SHIP JOURNAL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 4) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Photo Sources-Photomarine Archives Just put our magazine to bed and finally caught up on 2 weeks worth of SMML postings. I noticed a question about locating Photomarine Archives for photos. We can be reached by the above e-mail address or on the web at: www.modelshipjournal.com. If you have problems reaching us direct, simply link from the Classic Warships site. In the U.S. call us toll fee at 877-371-0290 or if outside U.S. call 360-371-0290. If you ever have any ship photo questions or just need technical info, give us a call. Be advised that we only archive plans of military, tugs, research and government ships (a few commercial as well) dating from the 1940s to present. Also carry RN and RCN WWII small combatants, corvettes on down to gunboats. Our primary focus (pun intended :-]) is photography of modern U. S. Coast Guard and U.S. Navy ships. We also have a very complete set for the Amazon class frigate HMS Active. All black and white photos (soon to be cataloged) are hand printed in our own lab, color-we send to Kodak and we'll also be cataloging very soon all the vintage USN/USCG etc. photos we have been amassing over the years. We actively visit ships for press tours and photograph them in drydock as well. It's a blend of my writing, photography and scale ship modeling skills coming together to serve the hobbyist. If you need a catalog, it's $10.00 (70+ pages) postpaid. Victor Baca Photomarine Archives MODEL SHIP JOURNAL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- End of Volume