Subject: SMML VOL 1021 Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 23:40:22 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: USS England's good luck 2: More "Pearl Harbour" news 3: Re: Texas' deck color (Warspite) 4: Re: What are "Queens"? 5: WEM Resin 5" guns. 6: USS Arizona by Tamiya 7: Essex modifications 8: Hornet 9: William Holden-Tugman 10: Mr. Snyder: That paint chipping... 11: Re: Tamiya Bogue 12: Emden/Karlsruhe and Admiral Lutjens 13: Admiral Scheer colour fotos 14: Re: U-571 15: Sydney 2000 Olympics 16: Essex Class 17: To T.A. Flowers, mostly 18: NAVHISTCEN 19: Type XXI 20: Going to San Francisco 21: IPMS VANCOUVER 2000 FALL MODEL SHOW 22: Re: U-571 23: Udaloy 24: Re: Tamiya Stuff, I would built a 1/350 Arizona or Essex 25: Re: Detail and Scale is gone? 26: Off topic 27: Queens and Fletcher 28: HMS Vanguard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Web Page update 2: ModelWarships.com October issue -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: HPolvi@kgp.cclcustom.com Subject: Re: USS England's good luck John Snyder wrote: >> I will leave it to others to explain how the England managed to dispose of the six Jappo subs. Was it luck or skill. did it stumble onto the line by accident or was there prior knowledge? << I seem to recall that the latest information indicates there was some decrypt guidance, but she still had to find 'em and sink 'em! I think I recall reading that the RN/ (Cdr?)Walker figured out that they could hunt subs easier working in teams - two frigates with Asdic/sonar could triangulate on a sub much better than one doing the old "Enemy Below" chess game/move countermove. Correct me if I'm wrong but the procedure was for one ship to remain relatively stationary and would co-ordinate and vector in the moving ship to shotgun the hedgehogs into the right area. The German subs were sitting ducks as they couldn't move very fast submeged. Henry Polvi Thornhill, ON -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Gollin, Phil" Subject: More "Pearl Harbour" news The November edition of the magazine "Aeroplane" records some of the flying sequences filmed for the film "Pearl Harbour". For the "Battle of Britain" sequence, 3 Spitfires were painted with later war "Eagle Squadron" emblems, but using Polish Squadron code numbers (so that's the Polish sensibilities smashed). There were also authentic Hurricanes used and mock fights with the Chino based "Me-109" (Ex-Spanish Hispano Buchon). For the Pearl Harbour sequence, a "Zero", 3 "Vals" and 3 "Kates" were loaded on the USS Lexington which was "cosmetically altered" to represent a Japanese Carrier. Only the Zero and the Vals took-off from the carrier. For the Doolittle Raid sequence, 4 B-25s were loaded onto the USS Constellation. (There had been some previous filming of B-25s taking-off from the Lexington). There were two representations of crashed B-25s, one "survivable" in a simulated Paddy-field and one where everyone is killed. Phil -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Subject: Re: Texas' deck color (Warspite) Hi Concerning Caroline Carter's previous reference to the USS Texas and her decks, I am 99.9% sure Texas, defintely had painted decks toward the end of her career in the Pacific. This was, I believe, in her 1945 scheme (I believe her last). Will check my references tonight... The Texas Parks Dept. historians did extensive research on her color scheme and opted for the '45 scheme in her current display; her decks are painted the dark gray/blue at this moment. It could well be that the photo Caroline refers to shows Texas at a time when (most of her career) her decks were unpainted. The whole business of interpreting photographs, as she touches on, is a science in and of itself. Philip C. Houston, Texas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Brett Merrill Subject: Re: What are "Queens"? Ive been reading your list for sometime. I was curious to find out what "queens" might be so I ran over to our library (I am a cadet at Massachusetts Maritime Academy) and looked in about half a dozen large dictionaries of nautical terms and found nothing on what a "queen" might be. The only definition I could find is another name for the staysail on a schooner rig. Just a wild guess but I dont think they had them on Britannic. Brett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Felix Bustelo" Subject: WEM Resin 5" guns. As Neil Taylor requested: Put me down for some of those too. I have some kits that would benefit from them as well. I am sure that Caroline is listening - she always does if the demand is great enough. Felix Bustelo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Ned Barnett Subject: USS Arizona by Tamiya OK - I'm taking off my modeling hat and putting two others on ... 1. Historian (amateur, but still serious about it) 2. Public Relations professional, accredited (and a former professor/published author on PR issues) with 28 years' experience Here's my take. Historically, we (the US) tend to embrace the enemies we beat, and shun the enemies we didn't. Not since Mexico (1847) or perhaps Spain (1898) have we not embraced an enemy we beat in a stand-up fight. We have made allies of Japan and Germany; we shun Vietnam and barely acknowledge North Korea. What does that have to do with Tamiya and the Arizona? After Pearl Harbor, Admiral Halsey was widely quoted as saying that when we were done, Japanese would only be spoken in hell (or something like that). If you define Hell as Hiroshima, I think he was pretty damned correct. However, since then, we've had a great rapproachment with Japan - we all get along like cousins in one big happy economic family. From a PR point of view ... Pearl Harbor is ancient history - Bob Dole-land. Nobody alive remembers it (personally) - an exaggeration historically, but factual from a PR perspective. It happened, so we beat the tar out of them, end of story. So, if Tamiya (and I hope they're monitoring this) wants to build an Arizona, they have the opportunity to do so with little chance of backlash - those who REALLY remember Pearl Harbor (and who were at least 20 when it happened) are approaching (or exceeding) 80 - in short, they are not the bulk of the model-building public, and they aren't the ones likely to organize either protest marches or economic boycotts. The next generation (me - born on this date in '51, of a Navy family who DID remember Pearl Harbor) see it at one remove - it's not our hot-blooded passion. If Tamiya wants to REALLY avoid problems, they could do the following: 1. Include in the kit a 1/700 Pearl Harbor Arizona Memorial model, to show their respect; or, even better, 2. Put on the box and in the promotional literature that they are making a donation to the Arizona Memorial for each kit sold; and, 3. Donate the ORIGINAL first-run mold - built up by a master craftsperson into an exceptionally-accurate model - to the museum with a major, somber and sincere gesture of respect for the dead (on both sides - it's OK to remember the 55 brave fliers who did not return - as long as you first remember the Arizona's crew). Americans love this kind of gesture. We are a forgiving people. We are (in spite of our President), an honorable people. If Tamiya were sincere (and I'm sure he would be), this could be a major POSITIVE PR coup for the company ... it would push sales, etc., while enhancing the company's image in the US. And yes, I am available to consult with them ... ... so pass the word. Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Michael C. Smith" Subject: Essex modifications The only real difference between long and short hull Essexes was the shape of the forecastle deck - it was stretched forward and widened to accommodate a second 40mm quad mount. To gain enough clear overhead for the mount, the flight deck was shortened slightly. They did the same thing at the stern by enlarging the sponson, and slightly shortening the deck there as well. The exact shape of the bow changes is in my "Essex Class Carriers in action" book - I did drawings showing the changed shape of the deck, the flight deck, and the bow profile. Hasegawa got the change right when they just provided interchangeable bows for their two units (the splinter shields on the long hull bow are wrong, but that's another issue - the shape is right). Turning a long hull into a short hull would be a task, but turning a short hull into a long wouldn't be that hard - get the right foc'sl shape and putty away. That's what you'd have to do regardless of which if you were accurizing the Lindberg kit - the bow is an amalgam of both. Beyond that change, the class had numerous minor modifications (armament, bridge shape, radars, camouflage) many of ship the "long hull" ships had from the beginning, while the early-war ships got them only later. Most ships had at least a couple of configurations during the war as changes were made in yard periods, but not as specifically "long" or "short" hull. The Terz. book has useful tables on which ship had what when, and these changes are what make the class so interesting, to me. With the exception of the bow reshaping, the changes are a matter of strip and sheet styrene that you'd have to do on the Hasegawa (or any other) kit anyway. Don't let the long/short distinction scare you. What I don't know is whether the SCB-27 changes that some of the class underwent (the Oriskany was completed to this - several other ships were rebuilt to it) including changing the "short" bows to "long" ones, as it appears, or if they rebuilt the bows to a third design. They clearly received extended bows, but because they weren't for 40mms but rather 3" weapons, the shields are different, so it's hard to see the exact shape. Does anyone know if the 27 bow is the same as the "long hull" bow, or something different. (I'm talking before the hurricane bows were added). Michael Smith Marshall, Texas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Hornet Managed to swing by there yesterday - not a lot of time (got there 75 minutes before closing) and it's a big damned ship, but I did get from Air Ops to CIC to the Wardroom. They have a lot of work to do, but they are doing a lot (that is clear) - few airplanes yet, but historically-significant ones, including an oddball Skyhawk in faux Blue Angels markings but also marked for a carrier ... very odd. Nice Stoof, nice Piaseki (Sp?) and a Fury mk.2 - a rare bird for sure. I have a question though - just below the flight-deck on the starboard side, there seemed to be a bunch of more-than-man-sized pigeon coups made of louvered slats (I have no idea what they really are - I'm trying to paint a word picture). What are they? Also, there was a vertical post running from the stern flight-deck overhang right down to just above the waterline at the stern. It has some vertical lights on it - but also this damned odd little perch where a sailor could stand and look at the wake being generated (probably the scariest place I can imagine being with the ship underway). Any ideas on why anybody would want to be 15-20 feet above the wake? Great docents, excellent tours, really cheap-looking linoleum (why did the Navy use linoleum, anyway?) and some surprisingly-interesting photos throughout the ship. Nice little gift shop, too - dropped a c-note there but forgot the one book I really wanted. So I'll have to go back (oh, drat ). Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: William Holden-Tugman Many thanks to fellow SMMLie Mike Ermert who finally came up with the title for a movie that I was beginning to think was only a good dream. The William Holden/Sophia Loren flick title was "The Key" and Mike remembers it as an excellent movie as well. As I recall, the tug footage was rare and very well done. So many good ship movies out there, and I still haven't decided exactly which is my favorite. I'd have to give the nod to the movie which stayed true to Nicholas Monserrat's original novel, "The Cruel Sea." Now if someone would make a mo-pic from Chris Buckley's "Steaming To Bamboola," we'd be in for a real good time at the movies. Thanks again, Mike Victor Baca Model Ship Journal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Fritz Koopman Subject: Mr. Snyder: That paint chipping... Mr. Snyder wrote: >> Hmmmm...then I gather you haven't yet heard from the skipper of CONSTITUTION following my time aboard her with the SMMLiecon tour....<< Dear Mr. Snyder: Ahhh yes! That was one of the things I remembered most about that tour, and I keep forgetting to ask you "When will we be seeing the 1812 USN Chipset #1, Mr. Snyder!". Thats 0.04 cents of our taxpayer money I saw you slipping into your pocket, and this taxpayer wants to know when we'll be seeing a return on that investment. ;-) And yes, your propably lucky (and more likely I'm probably lucky) that Cmdr. Foster hasn't noticed those 1 inch square bare spots on the gun-deck knees, overhead, and spar-deck bullwarks yet! Best regards Fritz Koopman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Re: Tamiya Bogue Hi Guys I have a Tamiya 1/700 Bogue and after comparing it to the Skywave kit. The Tamiya kit is better. It has an air group (F6F,F4U,TBM,SB2C) only the TBM was carried and you get the parts for the HMS Tracker -lend lease ships of Bogue class. The big difference seems to a tower on top of the island. Now some of these carriers did have the Hellcat in their air groups so for the RN version this might interesting. Any one see the History Channel World War 2 in color 3 hr special I did and it was mostly armor and planes but it did have some interesting views of ships. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: JRuotsala@aol.com Subject: Emden/Karlsruhe and Admiral Lutjens Greetings from Alaska. Can someone send me a history on the German Cruisers Emden and Kalrsruhe. Need the Emden that was commissioned after World War I. Also does anyone know what Admiral Lutjens would have been doing in Southeastern Alaska in the 1930's as a Commander. Need this for a story I'm writing. Thanks Jim Ruotsala -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Franz Aigner GmbH" Subject: Admiral Scheer colour fotos The latest issue (number 4/00) of Jet & Prop, a German aviation magazine, has two very nice colour fotos of Admiral Scheer taken during her Atlantic cruise in 1940/41. (The decks are nonpainted wood, rather yellowish; the superstructure is very light grey; and so are the aircraft, one of which has the swastika painted on backwards). The original source is an illustrated (with fotos) record of the cruise given to every crewmember after the successful return to Germany.Should be interesting to look at. Greetings, Richard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: dlfowler@apple.com Subject: Re: U-571 While I was in Taiwan I saw a model titled "U-571" from a Chinese company - Trumpeter, I believe. Right next to it was an older boxed model of the U-581 which, believe it or not, was the exact same model. Interestingly, both of these models were advertised as being powered and "self diving." When examined they proved to be the Doyusha I-401 lower hull with a quasi U-boat top. While these kits have all the quality common to Trumpeter I would not recommend paying anything for them and if you are given one I would make sure to recover the disposal fee. Regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Felix Bustelo" Subject: Sydney 2000 Olympics I would like to second the Druel's family senitments regarding the 2000 Olympics. Australia did a wonderful job of hosting these games and all of you fine folks from OZ should take a collective bow and pat yourselves on the back. The Opening Ceremonies were spectacular and the lighting of the torch was beautiful (though Barcelona 1992 still holds the prize for the most dramatic and coolest torch lighting). As they say in New York: Ya done good! Felix Bustelo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: James Corley Subject: Essex Class This is from one of my warship database files. Some of the abbr.. are: LPH - FRAM II update performed on the LPH conversions, different from SCB-144 FRAM II for CVS (if any of you know of an official SCB # for this, lease let me know) SCB-144 - CVS update for FRAM II SCB-27C1 - first batch of "Charlies" with SCB-27C features only SCB-27C2 - second batch which also received the SCB-125 updates concurrently SCB-27B - unofficial designation of angled deck trials (if any of you know of an official SCB # for this, lease let me know) Ship, Hull number, mods ESSEX, 9, SH, SCB-27A, SCB-125, SCB-144 YORKTOWN, 10, SH, SCB-27A, SCB-27C1, SCB-125, SCB-144 INTREPID, 11, SH, SCB-27C1, SCB-125, SCB-144 HORNET, 12, SH, SCB-27A, SCB-125, SCB-144 FRANKLIN, 13, SH, TICONDEROGA, 14, LH, SCB-27C1, SCB-125 RANDOLPH, 15, LH, SCB-27A, SCB-125, SCB-144 LEXINGTON, 16, SH, SCB-27C2, SCB-125, CVT/AVT mods BUNKER HILL, 17, SH WASP, 18, SH, SCB-27A, SCB-125, SCB-144 HANCOCK, 19, LH, SCB-27C1, SCB-125 BENNINGTON, 20, SH, SCB-27A, SCB-125, SCB-144 BOXER, 21, LH, LPH BON HOMME RICHARD, 31, SH, SCB-27C2, SCB-125 LEYTE, 32, LH KEARSARGE, 33, LH, SCB-27A, SCB-125, SCB-144 ORISKANY, 34, SCB-27A, SCB-125A ANTIETAM, 36, LH, “SCB-27B” PRINCETON, 37, LH, LPH SHANGRI-LA, 38, LH, SCB-27C2, SCB-125 LAKE CHAMPLAIN, 39, LH, SCB-27A TARAWA, 40, LH VALLEY FORGE, 45, LH, LPH PHILIPPINE SEA, 47, LH By my count, there would be 65 variants of the 24 hulls commissioned. Quite a few $$ even for the 1/700 line with Hasegawa and JFS .... at $200 each that would bankrupt even those of us who are really big winners of life's lottery! Then add in the cost of paint, glue, aircraft, railings, display cases ....... OY!!! Anybody got an extra $25,000 laying around?! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: "Darek L." Subject: To T.A. Flowers, mostly I hope that Mr. Flawers is a subscriber to this list. If so I would like to ask a favor. Would it be possible to obtain the exact CMYK values for the color matches you did for the BB Texas and CA Salem, both published by the Classic Warships. I am particularly interested with; Haze Gray 5-H, Navy Blue 5-N and Deck Blue 20-B from Texas book and with; Haze Gray 5-H, Dark Deck Gray and Natural Teak from the Salem book. I did scan those pages but the result was very disappointing with most of the scanned colors looking very different from the originals. I am using Photoshop and CorelDRAW, still I have a lot of problems matching exact values. So I thought I might ask for a help from somebody who's got much more experience than I. Any help would be very appreciated. Darek -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: NAVHISTCEN Bradford asked - >> I'm going to be in DC in early Nov. Is the Navy Yard worth seeing or are many of the exhibits closed due to the renovations?? << According to the Naval Historical Center web site (www.history.navy.mil), the main museum reopening will be delayed until "Winter 2001" due to the usual unforeseen complications. A special trip just to see the annex would hardly seem worth the trouble, although the Navy Yard also has the old destroyer BARRY (DD-933) still open to visitors, plus a static display of various guns and weapons removed from ships, and the Navy Art Gallery, and the US Marine Corps Heritage Museum. During the week (but not weekends), the nearby NHC itself is open and its library and archives available for readers and researchers. They generally don't permit borrowing of material, but books and stuff may be photocopied on the premises. Mike Alexandria VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Type XXI There is a pretty good paperback book on this sub -- "German U-Boat Type XXI" by Siegfried Breyer, published by Schiffer Military History, 1999. It includes a photo of the Wilhelm Bauer sail, circa 1961. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: SAMI ARIM Subject: Going to San Francisco Hi Ned, During the Fleet week the Liberty ship Jeremiah O'brian will be sailing on the Bay. I will be working volunteerely along with Ed Von Der Porten On Friday. We will be selling bunch of 1/700 kits with a lot of wooden collectable kits on board. The price will be 100$ per person and the numbers are limited due to the Coast Guard restrictions. She will be sailing from the pier 96. Blue Angels will be putting a show on the weekend and they will be practicing on Friday, which should be as good as the show itself. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Keith Butterley Subject: IPMS VANCOUVER 2000 FALL MODEL SHOW Hi group, The annual Vancouver IPMS fall show will be held on OCTOBER 7th 2000 at the Bonsor Rec Center - 6550 Bonsor Avenue, Burnaby BC. Besides myself any other SMMLies here in the Pacific North Wet(where drought = 4 days without rain) going? Great news about the Carpathia, eh? Ok it wasn't a warship, but it is still interesting that they found the wreck. Regards Keith Butterley http://www.warshipbooks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: U-571 >> HAS ANY MODEL COMPANY ISSUED A MODEL OF U-571???? << Yeah, sorta, kinda. You could build the Revell U-99 kit (a Type VII) as U-571, which in the movie is a Type VII. You could also get one of the old Commander Type VII resin kits in 1:350 and do it up as the movie model. Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "Jt. Mulder" (by way of Dave Shirlaw ) Subject: Udaloy Hi, I am a shipmeleler with a big problem... At this moment I am building a Russian Udaloy frigate.... But cannot find any photo's of this ship... Can you help me??? Regards Jt. Mulder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: SirAlphon@aol.com Subject: Re: Tamiya Stuff, I would built a 1/350 Arizona or Essex OK lets get this correct. Tamiya is worried about backlash from the American people if they build a 1/350 Arizona, but it is OK to model the H.M.S. Prince of Whales for England complete with 2 Japanese's bombers that were used to sink her and then make the picture on the box include H.M.S. Repulse. So what are we saying here? Am I to guess that Tamiya would have to model the Arizona with Japanese bombers (now that might get the attention of the American public). In other words what I am saying is I would love to build a 1/350 Arizona from Tamiya. Just leave out the planes the bombed her to the grave. Remember many Americans and others buy Cars from some of the same companies that made the engines and parts for Japanese planes in WW2. Given a choice I would rather buy a 1/350 Essex, because I have always looked at my model of the BB-63 Missouri from Tamiya and though about the Essex carrier in the background on the kit's box. I think $125.00 to $150.00 is a little high considering the size vs. Enterprise, But I would pay it. I might even buy 2 of them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Detail and Scale is gone? I recently read a post on RMS that said Bert Kinzey was going to stop publication of all detail and Scale titles. This sounded very third hand at best, so I sent an email to Bert (he's one of my ship judges) and asked him point blank if that was true. Below is a direct copy of his answer to me. The reference to the America book is due to a comment I made in my email about getting one of the books. If I may "read between the lines", (Bert's very vague answer forces me to do so) it sounds as though publication of the series will continue. Bert merely says "things are changing". That could mean anything. >> Hi Rusty, Things are changing here at D&S right now, but not everything is firmed up yet. However, regardless of what happens, the USS AMERICA book has been out of print for a very long time. The only way I know to find one is at a convention or swap meet. Maybe someone on the net has one they will sell. But I don't think Squadron ever got any old copies of it. Now that the ship has been scrapped, I doubt there will ever be a reprint of that title. Sorry I could not be of more help. Bert Kinzey << Leave it to Bert to cloud things even more. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Instant order online with Visa & Master card "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: Growlrr@aol.com Subject: Off topic Hi Shane - nothing to do with ship modeling at all - I just wanted to tell you that I stayed up till 1 am US time watching the closing ceremonies of the Olympics - I have NEVER seen a project of such scope and complexity handled so professionally and with such grace. I can clearly remeber Atlanta 1996 and Lake Placid in 1980 - neither of them could hold a candle to the way the Aussies throw a party. From the opening ceremonies to last night, your country and countrymen put on a display that was awe inspiring..... Salt Lake City has their work cut out for them in 2002! Congratulations! Glenn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: "hugh1lottie2" Subject: Queens and Fletcher This is too good to pass up: >> All seriousness aside - does anybody have an idea what the "queens" on a hose are? << How about rewriting it to be hose on a queen. No ideal!!! Make sure that you add flagbags to the Fletcher [1/700 had them], it's as bad as leaving off the anchors. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Damian Pliszka Subject: HMS Vanguard Hi Nick, I checked out Pelta's offer about HMS Vanguard. From catalag number (MK 4/00) I see that is no new Polish book, but new release from Russian series Morskaya Kolekcja (Maritime Collection). Hope this helps Damian Pliszka Slupsk, Poland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Poore, Devin" Subject: Web Page update For all of those who have been keeping track of my progress (both of you!), I've added a couple more pictures to my web page. I was successful in getting the Farenholt's funky camouflage scheme applied with the help of Silly Putty. It sounds strange, but I think I've found one of the best masking mediums ever. I'm onto the PE and final assembly now, and finding that BWN was considerate enough to provide specific railing sections for this kit; no cutting generic railing to make it fit. For that reason things are progressing much more quickly now. Devin http://home.earthlink.net/~devinj/index.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Timothy Dike Subject: ModelWarships.com October issue New Reviews for October include; "US Cruisers an Illustrated Design History" by Norman Friedman. Warship Perspective, Camouflage Volume 1 Royal Navy 1939-1941. A look at a Dragon's 1/350 Scale USS Ticonderoga Aegis Class Cruiser. A look back at a Classic resin kit, Imperial Navy's 1/700 Scale HMS Repulse. Matchbox 1/700 USS San Diego Plastic Kit. Pit Road's 1/700 US Aircraft set #1 Bombers, B-17's, PBY's C-47, etc. Classic Warships 1/700 Scale Photo-etched USN Destroyer Small weapons set. New Features include Special coverage of the 10th Annual Military Model Contest and Show We cover all categories, with extra emphasis on Naval subjects We visit the National Military Heritage Museum in St. Joseph, MO. Due 10-15-00. 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