Subject: SMML VOL 1023 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 21:17:42 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: hornet pigeon coops 2: Re: TV SHOWS 3: Re: USS America 4: Flower Detail Sets 5: Re: America scrapped 6: Re: Displaying Full Hull Ships 7: Tribal Class Destroyers 8: Tamiya Arizona 9: Lord Nelson in Germany! 10: Blue Water Navy 11: Italian Sub Colours 12: HMS Laforey - L-Class destroyer 13: Re: Scharnhorst wreck 14: Ex-French carrier FOCH to become Brazilian carrier SÃO PAULO 15: Tamiya 16: Arizona 1/350 17: Re: Displaying Full Hull Ships 18: Re: Colour Matching 19: E-mail from Tamiya on Essex 20: Remember Pearl Harbor (I do) 21: An Idea for Modelers living near Museum Ships 22: USS Nashville -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMMLcon Infomation & posts 1: Smmlies in Telford 2: See you there -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: SF Fleet Week 2: Lexington book 3: In stock 19.95 U-581 4: Model Ship Journal-Website Updates -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Shirley Sachsen Subject: hornet pigeon coops From: "Poutre, Joseph A" >> From: Ned Barnett I have a question though - just below the flight-deck on the starboard side, there seemed to be a bunch of more-than-man-sized pigeon coups made of louvered slats (I have no idea what they really are - I'm trying to paint a word picture). What are they? << They _are_ overlarge pigeon coops, though for trained albatross. >> Also, there was a vertical post running from the stern flight-deck overhang right down to just above the waterline at the stern. It has some vertical lights on it - but also this damned odd little perch where a sailor could stand and look at the wake being generated (probably the scariest place I can imagine being with the ship underway). Any ideas on why anybody would want to be 15-20 feet above the wake? << For the captain to waterski - the line would be hooked up to the post, and the captain would trail along behind the ship during flight ops. Joe Poutre << thanks for setting us straight on this and just in time too, since we have new docent training on the first Saturday of the month. I'll be sure to inform our docents on this new information. and here we were identifying these 'pointy bits' in the most mundane fashion.... silly us! :-) great stuff! it sure beats the 'curb feeler' definition for the starboard antennas :-) s -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Chris Rogers Subject: Re: TV SHOWS YES MIKE remember it well they should be available from the BBC also remember Sailing a Multi part Serial about life on the ark as in Royal that was a good show too chris rogers OZ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Re: USS America Hi Guys Guess what, the USS America CV-66 hasn't been scrapped. She's sitting high and dry moored to a dock in mothball at the Philadelphia Navy Yard on the Delaware River. About once a month or so I take a trip down I-95 past the yard. Craig Bennett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "MJW" Subject: Flower Detail Sets A special request to our fellow UK based SMML colleagues going to the UK IPMS - please could we get a review/critique of the new 1/72 Flower detail sets from Great Little Ships. Thanks! Malcolm Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: America scrapped >> Leave it to Bert to get a detail wrong?! The AMERICA was scrapped??? When did this happen? Must have been about the time the ENTERPRISE got her third Sea Sparrow launcher! << I'll bet Bert meant the Lexington (he had a D&S book on the Lex. as well as the America). However, I don't know for certain what her fate is/was. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Instant order online with Visa & Master card "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Noel Ray Subject: Re: Displaying Full Hull Ships >> I may bite the bullet this Christmas and attempt a 1/350 resin ship. I am considering full hull, but one aspect I am concerned about is displaying them, I have no experience building a stand for a full hull ship i.e. posts or keel blocks etc. (for my old injection ships I just used the included stand). What are my options for display? What's the best method for the first time? And how are they done? << Joe, I can explain the principles of a relatively simple technique which has worked well for me with items like the 1:350 Titanic, Lusitania etc. The mounting needs to be prepared as a first step (before serious assembly & painting) and involves the insertion of two rods into a mounting board (which will be a suitable length of half-inch teak, or similar). Two corresponding tubes let into the bottom of the hull form the "female" connection. Once the mounting setup is satisfactory, the hull can be removed and construction continued. At the completion of assembly & painting, the model is simply a "push-fit" on the mounting rods. 1. Obtain a short length of copper plumbing tubing and a similar length of aluminium rod which just fits inside (plumbing, DIY store) 2. Cut both into 2 x 3" lengths (approx, depending on the hull depth) 3. Sand the mounting board but do not finish (yet). 4. Drill two holes, suitably spaced, to take the rod, along the centreline of the mounting board (plank) 5. Mount the rods in the plank checking they are parallel to each other and vertical (push fit or slow epoxy) 6. Drill the hull bottom to take two lengths of tubing to match the mounting rods 7. Check that the hull engages the rods correctly and sits upright on the mounting board - make any adjustments, as required 8. Epoxy the tubes into the hull and allow the assembly to set on the rods (check upright and not listing!). Ensure no cement comes in contact with rods or you won't be able to remove the hull!!!!! 9. Remove the hull and continue with the construction of the model (the board may be finished with teak oil and put aside). Noel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Tribal Class Destroyers I am looking for views of the Mohawk as in her 1941 patterned camouflage, and views of BOTH sides of the Nubian in her Admiralty disruptive camouflage applied at the completion of the 1942 repair at Bombay. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Burl Burlingame / Pacific Monograph Subject: Tamiya Arizona Emotions still run high on this subject. The USS Arizona Memorial Visitors Center sells a number of model kits, but none are manufactured in Japan because of visitor complaints. A good 1/700 Arizona/Pennsy is still needed as well! Actually, all of Battleship Row needs to be done in 1/700 and 1/350! BB Pacific Monograph, 1124 Kahili Street, Kailua HI 96734 808-263-6087 buzz@aloha.net A historical interpretation company. Visit our web sites at http://www.PacificHistory.com/ and http://www.PacificHistory.net "He's supposed to be dead. This is vexing. I am terribly vexed." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: URUDOFSKY@aol.com Subject: Lord Nelson in Germany! I doubt your readers look at the Hamburger Abendblatt newspaper, but the Museum in Altona has an interesting Nelson exhibit entitled: Triumphal Voyage through Europe. There are nice pictures one can copy of the Hero and Emma. http://www.abendblatt.de/bin/ha/set_frame/set_frame.cgi?seiten_url=/contents/ha/news/serien/html/hamburg/lord_nelson.htm Ulrich H. Rudofsky -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "John Sheridan" Subject: Blue Water Navy Just to let everyone know, Blue Water Navy finally has a website! Looks like its still under construction but everything seems accessible. URL is: www.bluewaternavy.com John Sheridan The only human to defeat the Minbari is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else. : Delenn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "John Rule" Subject: Italian Sub Colours >> Having put that to one side I'm looking at the Delphis/Regia Marina Foca class sub. They quote a scheme of light greyish green with chocolate brown blobs. Now, I don't mind my sub looking like a long thin portion of mint-choc-chip ice cream, but I'd like to be pretty sure that these colours were used before I start painting. I'd have thought light and dark grey would have ben more likely. I have read reference to this scheme in another italian resin sub kit which said it drew on an hard-to-interpret colour photo. << Check out the new Snyder & Short Italian camouflage colour chips. Your sub should look great. John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Ed Grune Subject: HMS Laforey - L-Class destroyer Hello SMMLies, In SMML #1017 Dana wrote: >> On the other hand, why won't they bring out a 1/350 scale British L-Class Destroyer like HMS Laforey, just like me Grandfather served on. << Dana - pardon me. I read that issue of SMML quickly and put it down. I didn't put the L-class and HMS Laforey together until today. I did a little bit of research. Iron Shipwright makes the L-class HMS Lance. See the following: http://warship.simplenet.com/Lance.htm Its in 1:350 scale resin & brass. White Ensign also lists a HMS Lance in 1:350 resin/brass. Its reported available in either whole hull or waterline. (They were listed as "SOON" in 1999 - contact Caroline at WEM for availability). I know thay you have a starboard-side photo of the Laforey on your tribute site to your grandfather. Do you have any other photos or information about her that arn't on the site? Continuing on my brief research - the L and M classes are lumped together in one table I read. What was the difference between the two? WEM lists the M-Class HMS Milne with the same "SOON". In case any of you SMMLies missed the reference to Dana's page in SMML 1017, go to: http://www.dana-nield.com for a tribute to Dana's Grandfather LT Richard Clement Sumner, RN. Ed Mansfield, TX Dana's our local IPMS chapter newsletter editor ( a Canuck in Texas). Mike Quan & myself got him turned onto SMML. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: " kjetil Lindahl" Subject: Re: Scharnhorst wreck According to Norwegian newspapers, the wreck of Scharnhorst is upside down and heavily damaged at 290 meters. Norwegian Broadcasting NRK Has financed the search and will be making a TV documentary. Kjetil Lindahl. Norway -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Joseph W. Reyna" Subject: Ex-French carrier FOCH to become Brazilian carrier SÃO PAULO Shane, Mistress, and all loyal SMMLies and SMMLettes, The following news item should be of interest to all SMML readers, perhaps more so to those who have built the Heller 1/400 scale model of the aircraft carrier FOCH: By A.D. Baker, from the October 2000 Proceedings of the U.S. Naval Institute: "The 32,780-ton FOCH is to be replaced as France's only aircraft carrier by the much-delayed CHARLES de GAULLE and, under a $41 million contract, handed over to Brazil as the SÃO PAULO in mid-November. After a short overhaul that is to include the removal of asbestos insulation, the 40-year-old ship is planned to depart for Brazilian waters next April. The 869-foot carrier will carry an air group in part drawn from among 23 A-4KU and TA-4KU SKYHAWK light attack aircraft purchased from Kuwait in April 1998; 16 single-seaters, retyped by Brazil as the AF-1, and 2 two-seat AF-2 trainers were marked for refurbishment for use with Brazil's smaller carrier, the MINAS GERAIS, but that ship's smaller deck and advanced age made it necessary to acquire a larger platform. Nearly all of the French carrier's radars are unique to the ship, and her engineering plant and two steam catapults have been less than fully reliable for a number of years. Nonetheless, the SÃO PAULO will enable the Brazilian Navy to realize a dream frstrated for almost half a century - the operation of fixed-wing jet combat aircraft at sea." Affectionately named "Heinemann's Hot Rod" in honor of her designer, the SKYHAWK served as a light attack aircraft aboard US Naval carriers during the 1950's, 60's, into the '70's, and continues to serve as a fighter/light attack aircraft for South American armed forces, as was demonstrated by the Argentine Air Force in the Battle of the Falklands (Malvinas). For your information, the AURORA and MONOGRAM issues of the near-1/400 scale ENTERPRISE each provided 15 A-4 SKYHAWK aircraft. The LIFE-LIKE kit of the ENTERPRISE also provided A-4 SKYHAWKs. I am not aware of any contemporary models that provide these aircraft in the scale of 1/400. I hope Mr. Baker will pursue the identification of the intended full air complement of the SÃO PAULO, to permit us the opportunity to model this new-lease-on-life carrier. Cheers, Joe Reyna SHIPWRIGHT HOBBIES Kits for Sale at: http://members.home.net/jreyna/ForSale/KitSale.html mailto:jreyna@home.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Shaya Novak" Subject: Tamiya From a sellers point of view no question a 1/350 WWII Essex would sell like hot cakes followed, by the Nimitz. Since DML hasn't done it a FLT2 A. Burke is requested alot from me too. Shaya Novak Naval Base Hobbies The Store for The Model Ship Builder www.modelshipbuilding.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Shaya Novak" Subject: Arizona 1/350 I could understand there apprehension. Shaya Novak Naval Base Hobbies The Store for The Model Ship Builder www.modelshipbuilding.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Displaying Full Hull Ships I usually pick up pieces of red oak odds'n' ends in the cut bin at Home Depot. I cut the pieces into appropriate sizes, and use my Dremel with a router attachement and route bit to make a nice edge. Give it a couple of coats of Minwax, and great looking base. The same Dremel on a Drill press stand with an 1/8 bit is used to drill 2 holes in the bottom of a resin hull to accept two solid brass posts. I drill two matching holes in the wood base. Usually have about 2 inches of post exposed to hold the ship elevated; check the fit and then use 2 part epoxy so you have some "fiddle time" for alignment of the posts so they are vertical. A hollow styrene ship needs some reinforcement inside; either some resin poured in in a small box, or some styrene strips laid in to reinforce the attachment points. Alternatively, I cut some keel blocks from long Basswood strips (1/4 inch square is good for 1:350 ships) and glue them to the base. You need to make two "false" keelblocks with holes drilled through them for posts to hold the model in place to the base. Again, I use 5 minute epoxy for strength and time to adjust the fit. Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Darek L." Subject: Re: Colour Matching >> When it comes to colour matching with CYMK (Cyan, Yellow, Magenta, Black) to real world colours, it basically can't be done. << Thanks Duane, I was afraid I will hear something similar. :-) I am good with drafting and 3D modeling but matching colors and especially doing it on the computer proves to be most of the time very frustrating. Well, I guess more practice, that's what I need. Sorry for the off topic posting All the best Darek -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: NEVENGER@aol.com Subject: E-mail from Tamiya on Essex I though you guys might like to see what Tamiya sent back on my request for a Essex class carrier. At least I can say I tried. As I said before if this is something we want lets all at least e-mail them to death. If you never ask they may never realize how much or many of us may be willing to purchase such a model. I for one am not planning to give up. So please please PLEEEASE join me on asking them for it at at there e-mail address in the US at us_support@tamiya.com Now here is the E-mail I got from them. >> Dear Tamiya Customer Sorry to say is only a rumor, at this time Tamiya is not planning to release an Essex class carrier. Gary Demory Tamiya America Customer Service << -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Remember Pearl Harbor (I do) >> I wholeheartedly disagree with you. I think we should remember Pearl Harbor. << What did I say that gave you the idea that I had forgotten Pearl Harbor? You sure you didn't get me confused with someone else? That aside, today while onboard the USS Hornet (my company's home office is 15 minutes from her - which means I can make a quick visit over my lunch hour, as I did today), I bought a book that remembers in word and picture December 7, 1941 and Pearl Harbor (Stan Cohen's "East Wind Rain," a remarkably well-done 300-page book). If I'd "forgotten" why buy the book? >> To honor those who died there, in the service of their country, which is a honorable thing, we should remember Pearl Harbor and the rest of World War II to honor the veterans of that war and the servicemen who made the ultimate sacrifice. << I agree - and always have. You must be confusing me with someone else. >> Your comments only go to prove what I have felt about the younger generations of the U.S. society. << This member of the "younger generation" turned 49 on Monday - and in 1966, I was appointed to Annapolis (only to botch the eye test) and three years later I was offered a full four-year Air Force ROTC scholarship (only to botch the eye test). If that's a bad example of the "younger generation," I think we need more of them/us. >> Hey, it's ancient history, we won .... get over it. They have no sense of history, << As a representative of that "younger generation" with no sense of history, perhaps you'd like to know that my minor in college was in history; that I've written and published on military history (including Guadalcanal) and will be interviewed by the History Channel tomorrow as a resource on WW-II military technology breakthroughs that became part of civilian life post-war. I guess that means no sense of history, right? >> no sense of what their fathers and grandfathers fought for, and why. << No, growing up with a father who survived 4 kamakaze attacks (one hit, but bounced off before exploding - the others were near-misses), a night-time torpedo attack (which fortunately for my old man hit the Pennsy instead of his cockleshell Cleveland-class cruiser) - and who was on duty as Communications Officer when the announcment came of the war ending ... that gives me no sense of what or why. But in case I missed the point, there was my uncle - he'll carry the scars for life from being Stuka'd in the Med on an ammunition ship - he then made it into the West-PAC in time for the PI campaign, Okinawa and a sky-full of kamikazes. Or, perhaps I'd be reminded by a good friend of my dad's who used to come and swim in our outdoor pool (not that common in the 50s) - why? He'd lost both legs above the knee while pulling convoy protection while in the RCN in the North Atlantic, and used the pool to get some much-needed exercise. Without legs, he was a better swimmer than I was (and I was a good swimmer). While my grandfather was in the Navy in the early 20s and missed any big war, he was on China station and saw some unofficial action (in addition to being fleet boxing champ in his weight class). I grew up with their stories, and honored their commitment. But no, I don't know nothing 'bout why we fought, or the price we paid. >> In Britain, I watched with amazement little children in the Imperial War Museum knowing more about their "ancient history" than my own 16 year old nephew. What bothers me is the fact that he doesn't care about it. << Have you tried to ignite their interest? I've tried with my boys (22 and 17) but with no luck - they grew up around military models, a fairly decent collection of military memorabilia from WW-II and a huge book collection on the subject. But they care about that no more than I did growing up about WW-I (it was "ancient history" to me because it was eclipsed by the more recent and vividly-recalled WW-II). In spite of my efforts, if they don't care, it's my responsibility. If your nephew doesn't care, I suggest you look in the same place for the reason why - seems we both failed in passing on our passion to the next generation. At least the older boy is a good capitalist (the younger would rather be broke than work - and I have no idea where I went wrong there). >> Recently, I did a book signing at the National PT BOATS, INC.'s convention, I was honored (and humbled) to meet many of the men served on PTs. They fought a war for freedom for a world. << While I haven't done anything like that since the screenplay my wife and I (on the Thunderbirds) was optioned, I understand that. In my former career in hospital marketing and PR, I made a point of hiring naval small-boat Vietnam Vets (anybody who goes to war in a boat armed with a sawed-off shotgun and hand grenades is NOT going to be intimidated by greedy doctors) and just-retired 20-year vets (who worked harder and learned faster than anybody I could hire with only civilian experience). Each gave of themselves to protect our country, and I was proud to pay back each with the opportunity offered by good, secure jobs with a future. >> If they had not done what they did, people like me would certainly have been used for medical research or exterminated because, according to the thinking of the Aryan Race, I am not perfect. << Though my only medical problem is needing glasses, my heritage is sufficiently clouded (I was adopted, and believe that my birth parents may have been Holocaust survivors - at least one of them - or closely related to Holocaust victims). So though I don't need that as a justification (I was proud of our military and wanted to be part of it long before I learned of my heritage), I know where you're coming from. >> So, I applaude Tamiya for wanting to manufacture a kit of the USS ARIZONA << Which is exactly what I did - so I don't understand what seems to be your central idea in this post. Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Ned Barnett Subject: An Idea for Modelers living near Museum Ships Years ago, I was a founding member of the IPMS group in Columbia, South Carolina. When the Yorktown opened as a museum ship down the road at Patriot's Point (Charleston), we arranged to have a permanent model display in glass cases exhibited on the hangar deck. As far as I know, it's still there, though my last visit was in '79 (I said it was years ago). Many regional modelers contributed - they had to contribute "Navy" models, but otherwise the kits could be anything. I have (or had) two on board and on display - a Tamiya 1/48 Brewster Buffalo in USN markings, and a 1/48 kit of a captured post-war ME-262 that was flown by the USN. To those in port cities with naval museums (Philadelphia and San Francisco come to mind) how about pooling your resources and putting together a display - it's a good way to support the museum ships AND a good way to recruit members. We got our glass cases from a used-furniture store catering to businesses - they got their stuff mostly from bankrupt companies - much was fairly new and all was in good condition. Ned Hi Ned, Great idea. Another idea is to look at returned serviceman clubs, most of them here in Australian have a small section where they display relics, photos, models, etc. They may be happy to take some models for display as well. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Damian Pliszka Subject: USS Nashville Hi, I'm looking for camouflage scheme for USS Nashville (CL-43) - Ms. 16 Thayer System. I'll be grateful for any help. Damian Pliszka -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMMLcon Infomation & posts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: dlfowler@apple.com Subject: Smmlies in Telford John Snyder and I will be there. Look for the two rather old looking sailors under the dixie cups. Once again we will be OP, OS, and OT. Well, at least OT. Regards, Duane Fowler Hi Duane, Shouldn't one of the above intials be OF as well??? ;-þ Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "John Rule" Subject: See you there >> Since my return from your side of the pond I have been doing original research up North in Glasgow and Barrow in Furness. I now have a mass of new Flower Class material, as well as original drawings on Tribal class destroyers, River class Twin Screw Corvettes and Loch class frigates. All to be redrawn and added to my lists as time permits. << I hope you took yer body guard with ye, Jimmy, when ye visited the fair City. Looking forward to perhaps renewing our acquaintance at the show in Telford. Just remember it's in October, not November. Sincerely, John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Ned Barnett Subject: SF Fleet Week Here is the OFFICIAL press release (one of the folks at my new employer is the volunteer PR director for Fleet Week) for Fleet Week. I edited out the Wednesday events, as it's already just one hour shy of Thursday here on the Bay. BTW - this is an advisory for the media, not a story for the public - so it's brief and bullet-pointed. Ned BAY AREA FLEET WEEK 2000 Presented by Military.com OCTOBER 4 OCTOBER 10, 2000 Fleet Week Public Relations: Effective: Wednesday, October 4: (415) 296-0670, (415) 296-0576, (415) 296-0595 and (415) 296-0596 *Blue Angels perform Friday, October 7 through and Sunday, October 8 at 3:00 PM *U.S. Navy Parade of Ships is Friday, October 6 at 11:45 AM Thursday: October 5, 2000 ***BLUE ANGELS MEDIA AVAILABILITY: 4:30 PM 5:30 PM: Media availability for Blue Angels. **This is the only opportunity to interview Blue Angels pilots during Fleet Week. United Airlines Maintenance Center at Oakland Airport, 1100 Airport Rd. call Fleet Week Public Affairs #s above for reservation and more details. Friday: October 6, 2000 ***U.S. NAVY PARADE OF SHIPS: 11:45 AM - 1:15 PM: Watch the fleet sail into San Francisco under the Golden Gate Bridge! USCGC Chase, USS Key West (submarine), USS Boxer, USS Kinkaid, USS Harpers Ferry, USS Mobile Bay, USS Cleveland, USS Thach, USNS Guadalupe, USS Constellation The aircraft carrier, USS Constellation will launch aircraft from the flight deck. Launching will commence at 12:40 PM and be completed by 12:55 PM. Aircraft include F-14s, F/A-18s, EA-6Bs, E-2C, S-3s and SH-60Fs. Between Golden Gate Bridge and Muni Pier at approximately 12:15 PM, USS Coronado will trade ceremonial gun salute with the city of San Francisco. ***AIRSHOW (PRACTICE): 11:00 AM - 4:00 PM Special youth airshow viewing activities CIVILIAN AIRSHOW (PRACTICE): 11:00 AM 2:46 PM: Performances include: Mike Conrardy flies the Oracle Pitts John Collver flies the Tivo AT-6 Tom Wade flies the Edge 540 U.S. Coast Guard SAR Demonstration - HH-65 and C-130 Ian Groom flies the Fuji SU-31 Stoli MiGs Julie Clark flies the Mopar T-34 US Navy F/A-18 Demonstration - VFA-124 Bob Hoover flies the Fry's Saberliner Red Baron's Pizza Squadron Bill Reesman flies the MiG Magic Rocky Hill flies the AOL 5.0 Extra 300 **7:45 PM: Night Performance by Bill Reesman in his Red Bull MiG Meteor BLUE ANGELS FLIGHTS (PRACTICE): 2:58 PM Introduction to the Blue Angels 3:00 PM Blue Angels - Fat Albert 3:12 PM Blue Angels F/A-18s 3:57 PM Practice Wrap-Up AREOCLUB PERFORMERS PARTY: 5:00 PM - 9:00 PM: Third Annual Fleet Week AeroClub Performers Party. Performers meet the public to sign autographs at this free outdoors event, which will be held in the parking lot of the Franciscan Restaurant at Pier 43½ on the Embarcadero. The Blue Angels will be in attendance as well as many other civilian and military dignitaries. Saturday: October 7, 2000 All Day Navy Band Performances in the PIER 39 Entrance Plaza: 1PM, 4PM, and 6PM All Day Military Recruiting with three Humvees on display, test your skills with a pull-up bar or collect a dog tag in PIER 39's East Park FLEET WEEK 5K RUN 8:30 AM - 10:00 PM First Annual Fleet Week 5K Run at USS Hornet, Alameda. Members of Blue Angel team to be at start and finish line. Registration available at www.fleetweek.com and also on day of race at 7:00 AM FAMILY EVENTS ON THE WATERFRONT AS FOLLOWS: 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM: Marina Green: Emergency/Disaster Preparedness Fair - The San Francisco Fire and Police departments, the Red Cross, Neighborhood Emergency Response Teams and other search and rescue groups provide demonstrations on disaster preparedness. Red Herring Park/Concourse - Prominent Bay Area Internet companies will display and demonstrate their services on the Marina Green. Food Products Pavilion - Sample food vendors' products.Muni Pier: Special Airshow Seating Areas - Limited free public seating (approximately 1,000 seats) is available and is first come, first serve. Special box seating and hospitality areas are also available. Aquatic Park: Find Fleet Week-sponsored displays and other activities. Food and beverages are available. All sales support the San Francisco Seniors Center at Aquatic Park. Fisherman’s Wharf/Pier 39: World famous restaurants, shopping centers and stores are open throughout the weekend to serve food and offer excellent views of the event. ***SHIP TOURS (NOTE: Ship availability and tour hours vary throughout Fleet Week) 12:00 PM - 4:30 PM: Ships moored at San Francisco and Alameda piers are open for public visits. Limited group tours may also be arranged by calling the Navy Information Line (510) 263-1821. East Bay: USS Key West (SSN 722): Pier 3, Alameda Point San Francisco: USS Constellation (CV 64): Pier 30/32 USS Chase (WHEC 718): Pier 45 CIVILIAN PARADE OF SHIPS: 11:35 AM 12:30 PM ***AIRSHOW: CIVILIAN AIRSHOW: 11:30 AM 2:26 PM: Perfornances include: Milo Tichacek with Flag Fly-by Mike Conrardy flies the Oracle Pitts Barrel Rolls, Military Fly-Bys Ian Groom flies the Fuji SU-31 Civilian Heritage Flight Stoli MiGs Julie Clark flies the Mopar T-34 US Navy F/A-18 Demonstration - VFA-124 Bob Hoover flies the Fry's Saberliner Red Baron's Pizza Squadron Bill Reesman flies the MiG Magic Rocky Hill flies the AOL 5.0 Extra 300 BLUE ANGELS: 2:58 PM Introduction to the Blue Angels 3:00 PM Blue Angels - Fat Albert 3:12 PM Blue Angels F/A-18s 3:57 PM Wrap-Up Sunday: October 8, 2000 All Day Navy Band Performances in the PIER 39 Entrance Plaza: 11AM, 1PM, 4PM All Day Military Recruiting with three Humvees on display. Test your skills with a pull-up bar in PIER 39's East Park 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM Family Events on the Waterfront (same as Saturday Schedule) ***SHIP TOURS (NOTE: Ship availability and tour hours vary throughout Fleet Week) 12:00 PM - 4:30 PM: Ships moored at San Francisco and Alameda piers are open for public visits. Group tours may also be arranged by calling the Navy Information Line (510) 263-1821. East Bay: USS Key West SSN 722 (Pier 3, Alameda Point available for tours) San Francisco: Available for tours. USS Constellation (CV 64): Pier 30/32 USCGS Chase (WHEC 718): Pier 45 USS Boxer (LHD4): Pier 35 USS Coronado (AGF 11): Pier 35 ***ITALIAN HERITAGE PARADE 12:45 PM: Italian Heritage Parade. Oldest and longest running Italian heritage event in the country. Parade proceeds from Fisherman’s Wharf to North Beach along Columbus Avenue. CIVILIAN AIRSHOW: 12:00 PM 2:46 PM Performances include: Milo Tichacek with Flag Fly-by U.S. Coast Guard SAR Demonstration HH-65 Mike Conrardy flies the Oracle Pitts Tom Wade flies the Edge 540 John Collver flies the Wardog AT-6 Ian Groom flies the Fuji SU-31 Stoli MiGs Julie Clark flies the Mopar T-34 U.S. Navy F/A-18 Demonstration Bob Hoover flies Fry's Saberliner Red Baron Pizza Squadron Bill Reesman flies the MiG Magic Rocky Hill flies the AOL 5.0 Extra 300 BLUE ANGELS AIRSHOW: 2:58 PM Introduction to the Blue Angels 3:00 PM Blue Angels - Fat Albert 3:12 PM Blue Angels F/A-18 3:57 PM Wrap-Up 4:00 PM Event Complete Monday: October 9, 2000 ***SHIP TOURS (NOTE: Ship availability and tour hours are different throughout Fleet Week) 12:00 PM - 4:30 PM: Ships moored at San Francisco and Alameda piers are open for public visits. Group tours may also be arranged by calling the Navy Information Line (510) 263-1821. San Francisco: USS Chase (WHEC 718): Pier 45 USS Boxer (LHD4): Pier 35 ***FLEET COMMANDER’S RECEPTION FEATURING REMARKS BY THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY 6:00 PM: *Private reception aboard USS Constellation, Pier 20/32 Secretary of the Navy, Richard Danzig will make remarks immediately following his departure for China This event is a private reception and not open to the public but media covering are welcome. Please RSVP at Fleet Week Public Affairs center so we can provide access to the ship. Tuesday: October 10, 2000 Ships Depart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Lexington book >> Leave it to Bert to get a detail wrong?! The AMERICA was scrapped??? When did this happen? Must have been about the time the ENTERPRISE got her third Sea Sparrow launcher! << BTW, does anyone out there have a D&S Lexington book they wish to part with? Contact me off list of you do. 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As a bonus, until December 1, 2000 our special subscription price is $30.00 per year worldwide. Victor Baca Editor & Publisher MODEL SHIP JOURNAL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume