Subject: SMML VOL 1033 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:34:34 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Electronic Greyhounds 2: USS Cole 3: Potter/Electronic Greyhounds 4: I Am The American Sailor 5: Jutland, An Analysis of the Fighting 6: Re: RN Crests- Crown colours I have seen 7: Re: Airbrush specs 8: Re: NNT Models 9: Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 10: Re: CG 11 USS Chicago 11: Re: Paasche Airbrush 12: List members in Portland, Oregon 13: Where are these places anyhow? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: AandMBlevins@gateway.net Subject: Re: Electronic Greyhounds Try Bibliofind or Alibris bookfinders. Take advantage of their "Want Listing". I did so with the elusive "Big Gun Monitors" about two months ago and received a copy today from a bookstore in California. Al Blevins -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Dave Shirlaw Subject: USS Cole Latest information on USS Cole can be obtained by following the link at: http://www.seawaves.com/ Dave Shirlaw Editor, Seawaves Magazine www.seawaves.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Dave Shirlaw Subject: Potter/Electronic Greyhounds The author has an excellent article in the October Proceedings concerning "blue on blue" fire during the Falklands War. Dave Shirlaw Editor, Seawaves Magazine www.seawaves.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Robert J. Bartolacci" Subject: I Am The American Sailor Shipmates, I ran across this and it seems fitting to send to you in light of the tragedy in Yemen....... Dedicated to the men and women of the U.S.S. Cole DDG-67 http://goatlocker.org/asailor.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: GKingzett@aol.com Subject: Jutland, An Analysis of the Fighting I just saw a couple of copies of Campbell's book on the shelves at Powell Books in Portland OR. They have E-mail capability though I don't know the address. Gary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Frank Allen Subject: Re: RN Crests- Crown colours I have seen The few official crest patterns I've seen show the crowns as well as "rope" as overall gold in colour. The colour of the stones appears to be as follows: 1. center diamond shaped stone- ruby (red) 2. round stones to each side the sides of the center stone are emeralds (green), 3. outermost stones are sapphires (blue) 4. There are also smaller round items between the large stones...these are pearls. As for the name plates, I have seen them both as gold with black text and black with gold text. Again, these are the colours as listed on some of the official patterns I've seen...I too have seen other variations in various drawings etc. Not sure if what I have described is the official preference or just one of many slighly varied layouts. Frank http://hmshood.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Airbrush specs >> I was given two Type H Pasche air brushes in good condition and would like to know how modellers like them for finishing their models. What number tips are commonly used, and what pressure ranges are preferred. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. I have no experience using air brushes. << I think you will find that the Pasche H model is the most popular airbrush among modelers. I use one and am very happy with it. While it's not capable of as thin a line as the Pasche VL or other internal mix airbrushes, it has done everything I have demanded of it and done it well. I have used other internal mix airbrushes and still prefer the H model because of its simplicity and ease of maintenance. For all its capabilities, you just can't beat the price. I use 18 lb. psi when spraying Model Master enamels thinned 50/50. Works every time. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Order online with Visa & Master card (US only) "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Marc Flake Subject: Re: NNT Models They've never been able to get the English version working. However, a little deductive reasoning (schiff means ship) will help you manuever around. If you've got questoins, e-mail them. They speak (or at least write) English. I ordered something form them a couple of months ago. It arrived within a month. I'm a satisfied customer. Marc -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Johan Myhrman" Subject: Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse Dear all! I have a few questions related to model references for the German Ocean Liner Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse. I got information that a quite large and very detailed model of the KWdG was given as a gift by the German Kaiser Wilhelm II to the Russian Tsar Nikolai II sometime around 1910. The model was kept for a long time in the Winter Palace collection in St.Petersburg but was moved in the late 1930's to the then newly built Leningrad Museum of Shipbuilding. Many years later the museum was closed and the different models and artifacts were spread among other museums and institutes in Leningrad. The KWdG model ended up in the lobby of the St.Petersburg State Marine Technical University, Department of Shipbuilding, where it hopefully still remains. Does anyone know anything more regarding the KWdG model? Probably reaching for too much luck, does anyone have photos of the model? I have for sometime been searching and collecting as much information as I can on the KWdG for a future model and I think/hope that the St. Petersburg model must be a great reference. I have found good reference material on the KWdG to be difficult to find so any leads would be very much appreciated. The best drawing material I have found on the ship is from the magazine Engineering who run a series of technical articles on KWdG during the spring of 1898. The included drawings are excellent in detail and includes profile and deck plans. However, there are only a few sections represented of the hull lines (body lines?) and those are of the center sections. I'm very happy that I have those but I have not been able to find anything anywhere of the more complicated bow and stern sections. I could use the deck plans to make an estimation but "real" hull lines would be more accurate. Has anyone seen or have information on the KWdG's hull lines? All the best and thanks for any help Johan Myhrman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Hughes Family" Subject: Re: CG 11 USS Chicago Ed, try these links for pictures of CG 11, some are in color and some are B&W. Hope they are helpful. http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/04136.htm http://www.warships1.com/UScg10_Albany.htm http://home.pacbell.net/lmsjr/ships/cruisers/cg-albany.html Jeff Hughes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: Mike Settle Subject: Re: Paasche Airbrush >> I was given two Type H Paasche air brushes in good condition and would like to know how modellers like them for finishing their models. What number tips are commonly used, and what pressure ranges are preferred. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. I have no experience using air brushes. << I have a Paasche H that I like very much. In fact, I rarely use my double action airbrushes any more since getting the H. Being a single action airbrush, I use mine when doing single color schemes or schemes that can be masked off for additional colors. I use a double action brush for things such as Luftwaffe camoflage. I have both the #3 and #1 tips for mine. I have never used the #3 tip since getting the #1. The #1 is finer, therefore doesn't put out as much paint as rapidly. I have never had a problem with enamels or acrylics using the #1 tip. I spray properly thinned (about the consistency of milk) enamels at 12 to 14 PSI. For acrylics, I usually jack the air pressure up to 28 - 30 PSI. Mike Settle I am not agent #1908 of the non-existent Lumber Cartel (tinlc)tm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Tony Ireland" Subject: List members in Portland, Oregon As I'm building a radio-controlled one-tenth scale sailing model of a large steel ketch moored in the Columbia River at Portland, Oregon, I'd be interested to establish a link with any modellers there. This magnificent yacht is called 'Kiwi Electron', and was built in 1980 here in New Zealand by my son who is an electronics engineer in Norcross, near Atlanta, Ga. She is 74 ft overall, including bowsprit, by 17 ft 5 in beam and 7ft 3in draft. My model will weigh over 90 lb and be launched on its trailer at a nearby yacht club on the southern shore of the Manukau Harbour lying S.W. of the Auckland City isthmus. Many thanks! Tony -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: brian selzler Subject: Where are these places anyhow? I've often wondered about the names that Cunard used on many of it's ships, the common theme being that they ended in "ia". It appears that several of the names were regions of the Roman empire such as Aquitania (SW France), Lusitania (Portugal), and Mauretania (Morocco). These were easy to find but, where the heck is Alaunia, Andania, Antonia, Ascania, Aurania and Ausonia? Any ideas? Brian Selzler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume