Subject: SMML VOL 1044 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:16:45 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Blue Marlin 2: USS Cole 3: Skytrex' HMS Victory 4: Ship's Bell 5: Re: "Repeat Fletcher" DDs 6: Re: ORP Dragon 7: Gato class sub colors 8: Akizuki in 1/700 9: Re: Books to do next 10: PBS Nova USS Monitor Special 11: Re: Steves new books 12: Historic Ships Afloat 13: Re: Future publications (what I would do) 14: Repeat Fletcher... 15: New Books & JAG Stealth Carrier 16: Future Publications 17: 1\125 scale 18: Z-31 1942 References 19: USN Submarine torpedoes of WWII 20: Re: WW2 Ships still afloat 21: USS Cole 22: Resin ships 23: LAKE ERIE 24: U.S.S. SAVANNAH 25: Re: SCROLL BAR 26: Re: Future publications 27: USMC Amtracs 28: Re: Virginia 29: Classic Warships Books 30: Finland WW2 sub: Vesikko 31: Rusty's Wishes 32: Modern Warship Books 33: U.S. PBS & The USS MONITOR 34: Scharnhorst Camouflage 35: At least 23 survived the initial blast aboard Kursk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: H.M.S. Dreadnought at Telford and John and Caroline -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Snyder and Short DKM Paint Chips SET ONE 2: Update from Classic Warships Publishing 3: International Maritime Modeling October 2000 Update -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Tom Eisenhour Subject: Blue Marlin Ken Youngstrom wrote: >> Has any one found a web site with any info re Blue Marlin? It sounds like a fascinating vessel. << Go to the Offshore Heavy Transport web site: http://www.oht.no/fleet/index.html for schematic drawings and photographs of the Blue Marlin. Tom Eisenhour -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Tom Eisenhour Subject: USS Cole Ray Bean wrote: >> I can only imagin a CVN and any other high value asset dropping its hook in a foreign port--with manned machine guns on every quarter thoughout the port call stay. Sure gonna make it tough for the ship lovers and ship photogs out there who want to come in for a closer look. << My advice is: just make sure you don't approach in a Zodiac! Tom Eisenhour -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Edward F Grune" Subject: Skytrex' HMS Victory Hello SMMLies: In the current FSM (December, 2000) the News & Products section lists a 1:700 scale HMS Victory by Skytrex. It is described as being in white metal & etched brass. I went to the Skytrex website and looked around. There is a small photo of the completed Victory and scans of the instructions. The instructions look very complete, including rigging and the application of the etched brass ratlines & futtock shrouds. There is also directions for painting Nelson's Checquer. What was missing was a good close-up picture of the hull casting. Has anybody seen this kit? What is the level of detail of the hull? I've seen the GHQ version. How do they compare? Are there open gun ports with guns run out, or are the lid closed? Are their separate small boats, or are they cast as part of the hull? What is the status of the USF Constitution listed on the site? Thanks Ed Mansfield, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Poore, Devin" Subject: Ship's Bell Construction on my 1/350th WWII DD kit is proceeding smoothly, but I notice the kit has no ships bell. Upon looking at my other destroyer, cruiser and carrier models in this scale from various manufacturers, I notice that none of these kits have a bell, either (which I find odd considering I see they have included fighting lights, horns, etc.). What does everyone use for the bell, or is this generally left off? Devin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: AandMBlevins@gateway.net Subject: Re: "Repeat Fletcher" DDs There is a wealth of information in Friedman's "U.S.Destroyers" published by the U.S. Naval Institute. Al Blevins -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Lars Scharff" Subject: Re: ORP Dragon Hi Art, thank you for offering me to send the article from Warships. Damian Pliszka (thanks) sent me several photos, a line drawing (1943) and the camouflage scheme (1944). Concluding from the photos her 20 mm armament (May 1944) was 5 x twins (2 beside the bridge, 2 beside the main mast, one astern) and 2 x singles (on platforms beside the fore funnel). Can you confirm this ? Is the line drawing as she appeared in May 1944 ? Regards Lars -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Sean Obrien Subject: Gato class sub colors My dad did 8 war patrols as a junior officer on the USS Albacore(ss 218). For his 80th birthday I thought I'd build him his boat using the Revell Lionfish and one of the Nautilus conversion kits. From a few pictures he has I've chosen the kit I want to use but I have a few questions about painting. There are a few details I need but I dont want to spoil the surprise by asking him too many questions. He's always said his boat was all black which would be Measure 9 I think. Should the decking be painted too? And was the whole boat black above and below the waterline? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Sean O'Brien -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Cataldo Torelli Subject: Akizuki in 1/700 Hi, I'm planning to model the 1/700 IJN Akizuki destroyer and I would want to know what is the best option: Aoshima or Fujimi. Or are both kits the same ? Thanks in advance, Cataldo Torelli. Madrid, Spain. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Friedrich Kappes Subject: Re: Books to do next PT boats, MTBs, CMBs, MGBs, LCU, LCI, LCG, LCS, LCT, ..... Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http://sites.netscape.net/friedkappes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Kevin W. Woodruff" Subject: PBS Nova USS Monitor Special After reading the remarks about the CSS Hunley special the other night, I was interested in knowing what you all thought about the PBS special on the USS Monitor. It was very well done in my opinion with many great underwater shots of the wreck and very good coverage of the Monitor's career. Some good shots of the U.S. Navy salvage crew as well. The program has a site at: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/monitor/ Included is a virtual tour of the Monitor Kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: Steves new books >> Personally I think that a book on the Indiana class (BB1-3) would be good. With the Glencoe Oregon and the PE kits that go with it. I would also like to see something done on the USS Olympia, since it is the only Spanish-American warship still afloat. << >> I second Third and Fourth that !!!!! Lets not forget the ACR-3 Brooklyn << I submit all my votes for these too. I think there's a fairly big list of guys interested in these oldies but goodies Cheers, Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Historic Ships Afloat The International Register of Historic Ships claims to list all surviving vessels - both naval and mercantile. I have the second edition published in 1993. Regards Les Brown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Future publications (what I would do) >> Steve Wiper's interest isn't in modern warships. So I doubt very seriously if we ever see any modern titles in the Warship Perspective series.<< Rusty, Rusty, Rusty------- WAKE UP!!! There. Now that I have your attention, you will notice that I listed the Arleigh Burke DDG's, and they are in the next batch of books coming out, hopefully in March. A special thanks to Kurt Grinner @ Sea Photo, for the great batch of photos on these ships, as well as some from Larry Gertner, Lou Parker, and Bill Clark. Bill Clark gave me a batch of photos on the new Flt. IIA, Oscar Austin DDG-79, which is noticeably different from the first and second generation Burke's. The only thing I am looking for the make this complete is a few good photos of the new 6" gun on the Winston Churchill DDG-81. Anyone out there got any? Oh Yah, Rusty, my books are called the "Warship Pictorial" series, not the other name you mentioned. Please, do me the service of getting that part right. Thanks, Steve Wiper Classic Warships Publishing @ www.classicwarships.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Jeff Herne" Subject: Repeat Fletcher... Repeat Fletcher? With the exception of the hull, not much else was considered repeat in the design of these ships. In actuality, the design of the Fletcher was a compromise at best, mostly due to the BuShips inability to agree on the vessel's true purpose, ASW, AA, or escort. As a result, the design changed considerably as combat experience was gained. Ships were not built in specific pattern from a specific hull number forward...you mention DD 649-804. One of the major design changes was the Square bridge structure, considerably easier to construct, roomier with it's open bridge wings, and easier to con the ship. This design change was not applied to the entire class, in fact, ships were being built with both bridge structures right through the production run. Of course, an increase in AA fits resulted in several measures being taken to reduce the topside weight as these AA fits increased. Removal of one of the anchors, landing of the forward torpedo tubes, all contributed to the different fits of vessels. In addition, there were several types of searchlight and director platforms used, 2 types of midship 20mm splinter shield configurations, 3 types of aft 40mm tub configurations, different depth charge rack configurations and arrangements, and different aft 20mm tub configurations. Add in Emergency AA fits, with the Mk 1 40mm being replaced with Mk2 amidships, different radar and ECM suites, and no 2 ships are the same. Even the last 4 ships of the class DD-800-804 carried twin rudders, as a developmental test bed for upcoming Sumner and Gearing classes... If you want information on a specific vessel, I recommend Warship Perspectives Fletcher, Gearing and Sumner Class Destroyers in WW2. For more detail and components drawings, Floating Drydock's Fletcher book is great provided you can find a copy. Alan Raven's Fletcher Class Destroyer is another good title. If you intend to model a generic Fletcher, there's no such thing, especially with 175 vessels in the class. Did I mention camouflage patterns? Jeff Herne -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: rkbatykefer@maranatha.net Subject: New Books & JAG Stealth Carrier I agree with Dwayne's listing. I would like to see quality research on some modern ships too. Although I do have the Concord Press Tarawa/Wasp book, they with the Detail & Scale are not easy to find. 1) Arleigh Burke class 2) Perry class 3) Charles F. Adams class (modern) 4) Nimitz class 5) Ticonderoga / Spruance class 6) Tarawa class carriers I realize that many do not consider "concept" ships a true model, but I just received the JAG Stealth Carrier and boy did they do a fine job on this kit. From my understanding, the design is CAD/CAM produced and the plexiglass flightdeck and elevator markings and tiedowns are machine etched. The deck markings and tie downs are very precise and crisp which makes finishing the markings almost as simple as a white/light gray wash into the etched surface. Being plexiglass, the flightdeck and separated elevators provides an option to have a "see through" deck with only the markings being painted. The hanger deck interior is well detailed and the SH-60 Seahawks are the best I have ever seen. Although there is only one complete set of photoetched rotors, but two aircraft, still the SH-60's are wonderful even down to the sonobouy panel. (I have yet to see an ASW helo with a MAD boom except for the SH-2F on AFV's USS Knox). The 38 NATFs (Navalized Advanced Tactical Fighters) look good and the tail planes and landing gear are photoetched. There are 8 good representations of OV-22 Ospreys with both folded and extended photoetch rotors (although again there are only enough rotors for seven of the eight aircraft). Two "Tilly" cranes and eight tow tractors are produced in fine detail with the tow tractors even sporting tow bars setting on top of the tractors.The hull is one clean mold and desiged to accept the plexiglass deck with precision enough so that you can almost get away with painting the hull and deck separately and not using filler/glue to attach the hull & deck. This would lend itself to the ability to easily remove the deck for displaying the interior. Again, WOW... Bravo Zulu to JAG and pattern maker Alan Smith! IHS, Ralph -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Sean Pritchard" Subject: Future Publications I'm in complete agreement with Rusty's views-it would be great to have SOME affordable references for the modern navies-I'd be happy to see USN, as at least I imagine half the battle is getting access to the material required to write it. One thing that I'd like to add though is that there IS life outside of the major plastic modelling scales of 1/700 and 1/350-there are number of modellers that build in other scales,plastic and scratch. I myself build in 1/1250 and have to jump through hoops to obtain decent photo's of modern USN ships,in particular the unsung and forgotten auxilliaries that keep everyone else on the move-I have exactly the same problem for the (RN) RFA. With modern print methods I would think it would be an affordable proposition(but I'm sure some one will correct me). Whatever,no more Bismato/Hood books PLEASE!!! Failing all else,if it must be WW2 then atleast something with "legs", i.e. a ship or class that lasted well into the missile age (Little Rock?) Thats my 2 cents worth(and just how much do you get for 2 cents?) Sean. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: "Robert Fish" Subject: 1\125 scale ATT:: For the diehard, German Submarine fans,--U-99 listed at this site link,below ^ and for the scale, maybe the price is right? Squadron mail dot.com has some good deals every so often worth a look, and yes there are other scales as well, enjoy,,,, http://www.squadron.com/NEW929RG5054.html Happy Modeling. Robert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: Shahriar Khan Subject: Z-31 1942 References Hello, Is anyone aware of any references for the German Zerstorer destroyers. Does anyone know where i can get PE or resin upgrades in 1/400? thanks to all!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: "FCR" Subject: USN Submarine torpedoes of WWII Hello to all Just to ask what ere the torpedoes carried by the US Navy submarines in the early Pacific war? Were they Mk8? I know that they have used later the Mk10, Mk14 and the Mk18-1. Thanks in advance. Compliments Filipe C. Ramires Lisboa, PORTUGAL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: NAVYDAZE@aol.com Subject: Re: WW2 Ships still afloat Hopefully we are talking about non-musuem ships if anyone is going to make a list of them. Every so often in some of the backwaters of the bays or near scrap yards you can find some old beat up hulk that looks pretty familair - I think that one of the most common things I see is old landing craft. Mostly of the LCU typs and so on being used as barges - now if someone could come up with a list like that is would be pretty interesting. Also here in the San Fran bay area there are still some Victory ships in storage - pretty sure the Liberty's are gone by now - also a lot of old oilers and smaller auxilaries. Somewhere I remember seeing on a web site an old LSD that I think was being used by a school or some sorts. Mike NAVYDAZE - Naval and Aviation Artist -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: USS Cole Bruce., Your message about mail to the crew of the Cole was excellent! Do you have a FPO address or perhaps, better yet, the ships e-mail address.? Would it not be great and fitting for all of us to send Christmas greetings? Shane if you get this info please send it out in a future bulletin. Regards, John - Seattle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Ted0330@aol.com Subject: Resin ships A question for the group- I'm doing my first resin kit (1:350 Kirishima from Classic Warships). I'm enjoying the results and the challenges. I see many more kits in 1:700 than in larger scales. Any thoughts on why? Also, what is the detail like? I've built a couple of smaller scale kits (the old Revell Arizona in 1:700 and a tiny Graf Spee model) and didn't like the quality or detail. Ted -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "DUCKMAN" Subject: LAKE ERIE I had the pleasure of visiting the Cod about 15 yrs. ago, and encourage anyone who can to do the same. The ship, the city of Cleveland, and Lake Erie are beautiful. While you are in that part of the world, drive 180 miles east to Buffalo, N.Y. They have the Fletcher class destroyer Sullivans, as well as the C.L. Little Rock, a submarine, and many displays, including a P.T. Boat. The ships at Buffalo are not in thier original configuration, but are well worth a day of anyone's time. Buffalo is also a great town to visit. Also, about half-way between Buffalo and Cleveland, ya'll may want to stop at Erie, Pa. They have the rebuilt Brig Niagara. This was Perry's flagship in the 1813 battle of Lake Erie. Thay also have the prow of the U.S.S. Wolverine (Michigan) which I think was the first steel hulled warship in the U.S. Navy. DAVID -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: "DUCKMAN" Subject: U.S.S. SAVANNAH Can anyone tell me what class the CL Savannah was? Also is there a kit out there that can be converted to U.S.S. Savannah? I think the hull number was 41. DAVID -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: Robert Vancel Subject: Re: SCROLL BAR Someone mentioned earlier that if you don't see something you're interested in, scroll past it. Seems I've been doing a lot of Scrolling the past several issues. :) Robert "Dr Al Roberts" Vancel/oWf Al Team # 78 Matching Night Vision Tiara sold separately... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: "Hughes Family" Subject: Re: Future publications I agree with Rusty White's post concerning modern vs. WWII warship books, I would love to see modern warships in print. I would think it would be easier to obtain the photographs needed, since most of ships on Rusty's list are still in commission. If ask SMML members might even supply negatives to the effort. Please give it consideration, in the end that is all we can ask. Steve Wiper - thanks for asking and listening. Jeff Hughes Hey, Rusty I'd be willing to assists if you ever get the urge!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: USMC Amtracs OK, not a ship but it still goes in the water. Seeking references for the US Marine Corps AAVP7A1 amphibious assault vehicle. I just discovered a new HO scale model by Trident (similar to Roco Minitanks) in a local hobby shop. MWL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Dizzydismal@cs.com Subject: Re: Virginia In response to Dbrown 303 The "Virginia" was raised in the 1870's I believe. One of the web sites has articles about the slavage operation. Since she was in relatively shallow water, she was probably a hazard t other ships on the busy James river. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: Nick Wellington Subject: Classic Warships Books I have three of the CW pictorials so far and WOW! These are truly excellent books, not often do you find references like this specifically geared towards the modeller. I love the use of full page pics, rather than the "quantity over quality" approach of the similar sized Squadron books. Anyway, in the future I'd like to see: 1. Brooklyn Class Cls 2. Essex class CV (one ship represented through WWII to the Cold War would probably work best) 3. Arleigh Burke DDGs 4. Long Beach! 5. Baltimore class CA 6. Albany (CG 10) I'll probably think of more later, but those are my primary choices. BTW, I just got the new CW Salem book, IMO the best one yet. I never expected to see so many authentic (ie: 1950s not 90's) photos of the ship. Nick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: Björn Bäcklundx1bmQ= Subject: Finland WW2 sub: Vesikko Hello. Im looking for the camo of the finnish submarine Vesikko in 1941. Bjorn Backlund, Sweden -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Rusty's Wishes I think you're in luck regarding modern warship books, Rusty. Steve Wiper has a modern "Warship Pictorial" book on tap and, if its anything like what we've seen so far, it will be worth the wait. I'm sure the retail price will make this "Warship Pictorial" an easy one to add to the collection for those among us who are "cash challenged." Regards, Victor Baca Model Ship Journal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Modern Warship Books I second Rusty White's motion. More Modern Warship Books---PLEEZE! Our archive has enough photos dating from the middle 1970s to the present day to start doing books on modern warships right away. What's stopping us? Money, plain and simple. I still tend to believe that modern ship model availability and readily available research material in pictorial form go hand-in-hand. They should tend to mutually support each other. When you're talking ship models, though, wishful thinking takes a back seat to reality. Right now I could publish Spruance, Charles Adams, Ticonderoga, Oliver Hazard Perry, Brooke, Knox and numerous auxiliaries as well as MSOs etc (not to mention a whole library of U.S. Coast Guard cutters and small combatants). And that's only what I can think of off the top of my head without opening the database. Don't hold your breath, though. Without the full support of modelers in this small segment of a segment of a hobby, we would be sitting on a whole warehouse full of neat titles that one day some future archaeologist might appreciate. We have enough trouble just getting ship modelers to pop for a 30 buck subscription to get the modern ship pictorials in magazine format let alone a full blown book. Steve Wiper has me 99.99 % convinced that WWII is king among modelers and they want the big boys, too. What you guys want (and are willing to purchase) is what we will deliver. May your models gather no dust Victor M. Baca Editor & Publisher MODEL SHIP JOURNAL www.modelshipjournal.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: U.S. PBS & The USS MONITOR I don't know how many of you guys in the 'States caught the Monday night PBS program on raising the screw of the USS Monitor. It was excellent and will probably be re-run throughout the week (most likely in the wee hours). It was refreshing to see something on the U.S. Navy's salvage divers and the work they do. Nice change of pace from the usual BBs and CVs. Seeing Civil War iron ship technology made me wish the engineers designing the new "ugly as a Monitor" U.S. destroyer might think twice before building something with so little freeboard. (Sure hope all that cash I sent my Uncle Sam last April isn't being wasted). The graphics in this program were top-notch and chock full of history straight from the mouths of experts in the field. lots of nice ship models and a glimpse of the USN's ship models at David Taylor as well as superb effects made it a winner. If you get a chance to catch it, set your VCR and enjoy. Victor Baca Model Ship Journal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34) From: "Martin Short" Subject: Scharnhorst Camouflage >> Is there a consensus regarding the WW2 Scharnhorst's FINAL camouflage scheme? I seem to recall it having a light grey bow & stern and a very dark grey mid section... << >> Sorry, Frank, I do not agree with this assumption. In my understanding, she wore a multi-color disruptive scheme based on a suggestion of the Dechend memorandum. As for the decks, they were most probably unpainted (if you mean the wooden decks), as this was the usual practice with the Kriegsmarine. << My tuppence worth... as far as I can tell, (given that NZ is about as far from any official sources as one could get).. Scharnhorst wore a disruptive scheme, (at least 3 colours) briefly in late 42/early 43, after her post Cerebus refit and during her initial assignment to Norway. Now, this is an assumption on my part,but I think it is a reasonable guess, photo evidence suggests that both Scharnhorst and Tirpitz were re- painted around the time of their transfer to Altafiord in late March 43. Tirpitz received the 43/44 splinter variation and Scharnhorst, a light bow/stern and dark mid section/upperworks which I believe she wore until her sinking. Certainly these are the schemes both wore during operation "Sicily", early September '43. However, I am more than happy to be convinced otherwise, and does anyone have starboard side shots of Scharnhorst's disruptive scheme?, I only have portside!! cheers, Martin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 35) From: Bergschöld Pelle Subject: At least 23 survived the initial blast aboard Kursk This, gentlemen, is taken off CNN:s internet site today. >> MOSCOW, Russia Russia's navy chief says at least 23 sailors on board the Russian submarine Kursk remained alive after explosions killed the rest of the crew, according to a letter found by divers. The note found in the pocket of a seaman is the first sign that anyone survived the initial blasts that tore apart the submarine and sunk it in the Barents Sea. The letter does not elaborate on the cause of the catastrophe that killed all 118 men on board the submarine on August 12. Russian Navy chief Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov told families gathered in the northern Russian port of Murmansk that the note was found on a sailor identified as Lt. D.R. Kolesnikov. "All the crew from the sixth, seventh and eighth compartments went over to the ninth. There are 23 people here. We made this decision as a result of the accident. None of us can get to the surface," Kuroyedov quoted the note as saying. The ninth compartment is where the emergency escape hatch is located. After the Kursk sank, Russian submarines were unable to latch onto the hatch, but Norwegian divers who followed managed to open it a week after the tragedy -- and determined that there were no survivors. The note went on to mention the figures 13 and five, without explanation, and then added: "I am writing blindly," Kuroyedov said. << For my part, I'm taking the rest of this day off. In my heart, I'd hoped that them poor souls were killed fairly instantly. Now we know that they knew what was coming and thus betrayed by their country had to wait it out. This came to be a day for prayers and comtemplation, not work. Pelle ex-RSwN SWE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "WEM" Subject: H.M.S. Dreadnought at Telford and John and Caroline Hi Mike, >> Does anyone know the name of the guy who built the gold-winning H.M.S. Dreadnought at Telford? I was astounded by the craftsmanship << That's Jim Baumann... he also took a few other awards for his 1/700 Modelkrak builds.. >> probably did the IJN Kirishima which was on display last year at Telford). << Yes.. that was the lovely Classic Warships 1/350 kit. >> What I would most like to know was what material (stretched sprue/ fishing line/ invisible mending thread?) he used for the rigging and how !??? << Stretched sprue... a tip ... J.B. uses black plastic from, I believe, old Revell kits. Works far better apparently than anything else. ... >> made the radio-telegraph aerial (4 or 6 parallel cables separated by starfish spreaders). << Patience.. infinite patience.. and a very steady hand! By the way, it was absolutely wonderful meeting so many SMML folk at Telford. Many of the colonial contingent are now touring England so won't be back on-list for a week or two. John and I had SMMLlie Darren Scannell and a friend from Canada stopping with us for a few days. He's going to be looking in at Jim Baumann's to look at his ship models today during his Portsmouth tour. Also, thanks to all of you from John and myself for the congratulations offered to us at that event re our engagement .. also personally via E-Mail, and on the list. This is a very happy time for us both. WEM is cracking along happily, and when John moves over here some time next year, his expertise will be appreciated by both Dave and myself. Oh.. I nearly forgot... that bikini shot? Well, in a moment of madness I showed it as I had the laptop at the show.. maybe some of you will get to see it at next year's Nationals ... then again, maybe you won't!! All The Best, Caroline Carter White Ensign Models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "WEM" Subject: Snyder and Short DKM Paint Chips SET ONE Hi Guys, In stock right now (there's a surprise, hey!). Debut was at Telford. We have a few sets left right now. 20 Colours: Prewar Colors: Hellgrau 50, Dunkelgrau 51, Baltic Schemes: Helllgrau (differs from Hellgrau 50), Mittelgrau, Dunkelgrau (differs from Dunkelgrau 51), Underwater Hull Colors, Dunkelblaugrau, Schiffsbodenfarbe III Rot 5, Schiffsbodenfarbe (alternate color), Schiffsbodenfarbe III Grau 1 (boot-topping), Other Colors: Aluminumbronze 16, Dunkelgrau 2, Deckfarbe Gelb 13 (turret tops), Deckfarbe Rot 7 (turret tops), Schnellbootweiss, Rostschutzfarbe Graugrun 12 (for Torpedoboote), Deckfarbe Weiss 14, Dunkelblau 9, Norwegian Campaign: Norwegian Blue Gray, 5% reflectance, Norwegian Blue Gray, 20% reflectance, Norwegian Blue Gray, 45% reflectance ... Cooo... is that turret top yellow bright or what! 20.95 Pounds in EU/U.K. and 17.83 Pounds for the rest of the world. Shipping overseas is only ever at cost. All The Best, Caroline Carter a White Ensign Model http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Update from Classic Warships Publishing I have just finished laying out the "Indianapolis & Portland book. Captions should be finished in a week. This book of 64 pages will contain no less than 122 photos of CA-33 and CA-35. I have found lots of new unpublished photos of both ships, so this will be a real treat for everyone. Also, with the Tamiya 1/700 kit of the Indy due out shortly, this book will be a great reference tool, especially for the $12 retail price. At the same time, my book on the "Yorktown Class Carriers", will be available. It also contains a huge amount of photos, 119 to be exact, on 64 pages, and again, for only $12! Should have both books out in early December. Pacific Front Hobbies always gets 'em first! They will of course be available thru your local hobby shop and other mail order outlets. Next up, will be "Lexington Class Carriers" and "Arleigh Burke Class DDG's". I hope to have these available in March or April. To all those who posted what book subjects they wanted to see, Thanks for doing so. Please feel free to make more suggestions on the SMML. I like to see these sort of forward looking discussions, and I think it will add that much more spark to our hobby. Thanks, Steve Wiper Classic Warships @ www.classicwarships.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Felix Bustelo Subject: International Maritime Modeling October 2000 Update I am pleased to announce that the latest update to IMM is up on the web. The November update will feature liners and merchant ships exclusively and I have some good stuff for that update! http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm The October 2000 update to the site includes: Photos of Steve Erdelac's (a.k.a. Rhino Bones) 1/225 scale USS Oregon in the Gallery. Reviews of the Trumpeter 1/550 scale Soviet Carrier Minsk, the Lee 1/300 HMS Aurora and the Airfix 1/600 Bismarck in Quick Kit Reviews. In addition, the reviews of the L'Arsenal Aviso Type A-69 and the Iron Shipwright Brookyn tugboat were updated as build-up reviews. Reviews of the Nautilus Models USS Icefish Late-war Balao resin upgrade set and USN World War II Fleet Sub photoetch detail in Photoetch Reviews. A review of That Gallant Ship - U.S.S. Yorktown (CV-5) in Book Reviews. The Model Ship Journal Page was updated to include Issue One. I added a page summarizing the latest arrivals at Warship Books. Related updates to the Links page. I hope that you all enjoy it and I welcome any contributions and feedback. Regards, Felix Bustelo Webmaster International Maritime Modeling URL: http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume