Subject: SMML VOL 1052 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:27:44 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Revell Flower class Corvette 2: Re: 1/72nd scale Revell Flower class Corvette 3: Celebs 4: Re: Dallas Area Hobby Shops 5: Jap Lino 6: US DD choices 7: Re: Books 8: Re: Using plastic to build card models? 9: Suggestions for Mr. Wiper's Warship book series 10: Re: cole pics 11: Re: 1/72nd scale Revell Flower class Corvette 12: Re: Card model to plastic 13: Re: PT-171 14: Re: Hunley 15: Re: Armored Cruiser/Great White Fleet-era kits? 16: Re: Yohan's Plastic Card idea 17: Re: Open hatches 18: Re: Steve Wiper books - addendum 19: Re: Cheesy Poofs 20: Hobby Shops ***** 21: Re: Excel spreadsheet for pre WW1 models 22: Re: Armored Cruiser/Great White Fleet-era kits? 23: Detail & Scale books for sale 24: Re: Purple Heart 25: Watertight doors 26: Brass/Bronze/Metal propellers 27: Re: Sverdlov 28: Indianapolis Search / "Salmon" Photos / 11 November Reminder 29: Steve Wiper's books 30: Re: Watertight Doors & Damage Control 31: Purple Heart 32: Cool Book! - Tiger, Lion & Blake! 33: Re: HMS Delhi 34: Re: Steve's Books... 35: Model of USS KIDD 36: Watertight doors 37: Steve Wiper's books 38: Re: Dallas Hobby Shops 39: Re: HMS Delhi 40: Re: Konig References 41: Re: 1/200 Sep & Orzel 42: Modern Amtracks 43: WW - II Amtracks? 44: Bainbridge (DD-1) 45: Stealth Carrier? 46: U-571 Movie Diorama 47: John and Caroline (Better late than never, I hope) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: VONJERSEY@aol.com Subject: Revell Flower class Corvette where can one get a Revell Flower class Corvette. what are they like how much do they cost? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Steve Holton Subject: Re: 1/72nd scale Revell Flower class Corvette See David Parkins site: http://www.djparkins.clara.net/gls/glsmast.htm for a series of Detail Sets & Replacement Fittings up to and including replacing all but the hull. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Jeff Herne" Subject: Celebs Greetings SMMLies, Over dinner last night, some friends and started discussing celebrities that have served in combat zones...We all knew about Eddie Albert, Clark Gable, Jimmy Stewart, etc., but I'm trying to think of one guy an particular, who was in the Merchant Marines, I think. He's on TV all the time...anyway, how about a thread on vets who became celebs after the war? Just a thought? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com Subject: Re: Dallas Area Hobby Shops Howdy, You might try Phil's Hobbies in Farmer's Branch. It's one of my favorites in the country. Each aisle is topped by a display case. So they have a nice selection of kits to buy as well as a bunch of completed models for you to take a gander at. There is also Wild Bills in Irving. It's not too far from MAL. I haven't been there in a long time. Hobby Maker is in Bedford. Pretty much a run of the mill hobby store. A lot like a Hobbytown USA. There is another shop on the South side of Fort Worth, but I forget the name of the place. Mostly a train shop. Good hunting! Brent -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Cooper, Mike" Subject: Jap Lino Dear all Funnily enough this links in with my query about jap sub deck colours (doesn't anyone know!!!???). Back in 1997 I pulled some notes off NAVIS on this topic. The gist was 1/ Lino came off from c.1942 onwards and nothing built thereafter had it 2/ It was a chocolate brown - see the Snyder and Short chips For the record Navis said that sub decks were probably painted, but didn't quote any authority Mike Cooper Rain-lashed-but-could-be-a-lot-worse-off-Reading-UK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Cooper, Mike" Subject: US DD choices Dear All OK...you can help me out of a dilemma. This is your chance to influence a future Cooper project. I want to build a single stack USN destroyer I've got a resin Gridley Do I a/ Build her as a Gridley, given that the main colour options (Ms21 nd 22) aren't too exciting b/ Convert her to a Benham or a Bagley Your thoughts please. BTW - the Great and Protracted Algerine Scratchbuild is very nearly over!!! Wheeeeee!!! If Dan is very unlucky I'll do a bit for PSM on her...and I will sort out those photos!!! Mike Cooper Redaing UK or as it is at the moment Reading - YUK!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Chris Rogers Subject: Re: Books Hey Steve how about some classic ships from the 50's & 60's like Charles F Adams, Gearings & some RN ships like the 2nd Tribals Whitby's Rothesay's and County's DDs makes a change?? chris Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Darek L." Subject: Re: Using plastic to build card models? Yohan, if you glue paper bulkheads, decks and the base plate onto the thin styrene sheet, I believe you can assemble those parts later just like a paper model and than before attaching the hull skin you can fill up the hull with something like the MONO foam. After the foam cures, sand off the excess and than attach the paper hull skin. Your model would look like a paper one but inside would be just as hard as the resin ones. BTW I've been wondering if there would be an interest with 1:700 or/and 1:350 scale paper models. I've got some experience designing card models for the Wilhelmshaven - like that of San Francisco described in the Ships in Scale latest issue - and been thinking about publishing something on my own. Any comments would be highly appreciated. Darek -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Poutre, Joseph A" Subject: Suggestions for Mr. Wiper's Warship book series I have two, one per cent: USS Midway through the decades, WW2 to the 1990s. If only someone would make a model of her in a "standard" scale. Spruance/Kidd class DDs and DDGs. There are several models of the Spru-cans, and the Kidds are not a difficult convertion with good references. A clear guide to which ships were equipped with what when is a big need. I have the Omaha class book - great work! I'll be using it to update my Iron Shipwright USS Detroit to USS Trenton. I'm torn between the simple Measure 21 and the difficult but much more impressive looking Measure 33/2f. Joe Poutre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: "Steven P. Allen" Subject: Re: cole pics You know, those pics of Cole high and dry on the deck another ship give me lots of ideas about a dirorama. This is a way to display a full hull AT SEA ;-) . . . . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: geoff-smith@cwcom.net Subject: Re: 1/72nd scale Revell Flower class Corvette >> I picked up one of these monsters the other day, and was wondering if there are any after-market products (photoetch and resin replacement parts) available for this kit. I am also interested in literature ( history and pictures) available for the Flower class. << Victor, For add-on extras, go to: www.djparkins.com Impressive etching. Dave's pe bits were on show at Telford and were one reason I ordered this kit. For books try: Flower class Corvettes by John Lambert The Flower class Corvette Agassiz by John Lambert & John Harland (oop) No doubt there are others and I, too, would like to hear. Geoff -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: Card model to plastic >> Any thoughts on other difficulties that might come up? Does this sound feasible at all? << There already is a guy that does this but I forget the website he has. He actually color copies onto thin sheet plastic and then builds the model. His USS MAINE is fantastic! Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: PT191@aol.com Subject: Re: PT-171 Ned: Les has been sent a copy already. T. Garth Connelly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: Hunley >> But seriously the history behind the whole storey was interesting. Unless I make a special trip to the USA, minus my wife "she thinks its just a piece of rusted metal" I'll probably won't see it in the flesh. So if anyone has a web site that I can visit please let me know. And by the way the wife did enjoyed the Hunley storey also. << http://www.wcsc.com/hunley/gallery.htm is a good site. Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Steve Holton Subject: Re: Armored Cruiser/Great White Fleet-era kits? See http://warship.simplenet.com/SNDreadnought.htm off the Warship sight for review of the Steel Navy's (Dave Runkle, proprietor - rhino7@jps.net) 1:350 resin HMS Dreadnought. Very nice - I have one on the ways here now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: Re: Yohan's Plastic Card idea Yohan and Victor are unnecessarily concerned about the durability of card models. Though duplicating the parts in sheet styrene has a certain appeal, the card models themselves are quite strong and will survive being dropped better than their heavier plastic cousins. If you are concerned about long-term stability and humidity resistance, I suggest you print the model parts on acid-free paper and matte varnish the finished model. The result should last at least as long as a plastic model. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER unique wood sculpture and fine scale models www.walruscarpenter.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Open hatches >> I have a lot, and I do mean alot, of photos of ships underway with all kinds of doors open. Not all sailors listen to orders, let alone remember them. << Right you are. Obviously the officers that wrote the regs about closed hatches at all times didn't write it while sweating their butts off inside a steel box (destroyer) in the Pacific in 100 degree plus weather. 99% of the time the hatches are left open for ventilation. Rusty White Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Order online with Visa & Master card (US only) "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Steve Wiper books - addendum >> I would like to expand on my wish list for you warship book project by requesting your doing lots of aircraft carrier subjects, still in WW II. Each by class would be fine, but I don't know what kind of giant volume you would do if you tackled the Essex or Casablanca classes or the like (Maybe part I & II, etc.). << I think I would expand to 72 to 80 pages, which is the max size for the binding in the format I publish my soft bound books. With that many pages, I could have at least 140 photos in one volume! We shall see! Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Cheesy Poofs >> and I once made an IMPS "nationals" model out of a styrofoam Cheesy Poofs << So that's why they taste like that? Rusty White Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Order online with Visa & Master card (US only) "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: "hugh1lottie2" Subject: Hobby Shops ***** >> Dallas seems really thin on good hobby shops, at least that I've found (hope I'm wrong). I'd appreciate some pointers from Dallas members on other stores. << These are the same questions that I see for Washington DC, San Francisco, Chicago, Denver, Hong Kong, Sidney, Madrid, Rome and London when SMMLies travel. We seem to have a fairly mobile membership and with the WWW you can stay at home and still shop. As a service to the SMML list, my question is: Where are the five star hobby shops in the world and what makes them great? Obviously for our purpose they would have to have ships but what other attributes should they have, an endless supply of kits, multiple brands of paint, bushels of brass, barrels of books or is it something else like a web site, location, displays or the people that work there? What makes it work for you? Hugh -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: "Richard K. Coleman" Subject: Re: Excel spreadsheet for pre WW1 models Someone said they have a database (excel spreadsheet) with all of the pre-WWI, turn-of-the-century (and slightly before) warship models; their scale, manufacturer, etc... I would really be grateful if this information could be posted on the web somewhere and you would let us know the link. If anyone else knows this information I would also really like to be let in on it as I have had little success in finding these vessels in my preferred scale of 1/700 (Waterline). many thanks, Richard Hi Richard, Check out the SMML website, we have a copy there, although not the latest I think (due to outside work commitments by SMML's Webmaster Mike Dunn). Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: John Philip Downing Subject: Re: Armored Cruiser/Great White Fleet-era kits? >> OK, the Olympia and the Oregon and the Dresden/Emden have got me spoiled - I'm even buying piecacrap Chicom kits of Imperial Chinese deathtrap armored cruisers. So, what I want to know is: 1. What kits of armored cruisers and/or pre-dreadnoughts (actually ships up through WW-I) are for sale (by whom? how good?) 2. What reference sources for same are there? 3. What aftermarket supplies for same are there? Also, anybody know about the USS Chester? What is the better kit, and where can I get it? FINALLY, is there a kit of the Dreadnought herself? If so, what, where, etc. << There is a 1/700 Dreadnought by Kobo-Hiryu in resin, and also one in 1/350, but I forget who. Kombrig and Modelkrak make many 1/700 resin ships from the Russo-Japanese war of 1905. These are about 6" long. I have a 1/200 paper model kit of an Italian predreadnought. There are probably others. There is a resin model of the last Austro-Hungarian predreadnought. The Japanese predreadnought Mikasa is available in many versions, most expensive and hard to find. I you want WWI ships, I would start with the SMS Konig by ICM in plastic. There is a 1/600 Iron Duke by airfix, and a lot of resin kits in 1/700 and several in 1/350. John D. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: Denis & Marilyn Campbell Subject: Detail & Scale books for sale I read the recent postings about the sale at Squadron Mail Order of the D&S book on the uss John F. Kennedy (which I happen to have already) and several others. I called Squadron this morning, and they did not know what I was talking about. The lady looked (she said) at the November sales flyer and could not find any ship books - and no D&S books. Can someone post the stock numbers and titles of the ship books in the flyer so I (and, maybe others) can try again? Denis Campbell Avon MA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: "Ken P LeMaster" Subject: Re: Purple Heart At least one of the Texas Dead received the Purple Heart, it was presented to his mother at his funeral. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: Robert and Janis Leonti Subject: Watertight doors In response to watertight doors NEVER being open on ships--------Nonsence, You have never served aboard a ship if you say this is true. I served aboard the CGC Tamaroa WMEC-166 for four (4) years and we always had the doors open while out to sea especially in summer, we would have baked alive in the heat generated from four huge diesels constantly running. The ship was not air conditioned. During storms in the North Atlantic they were shut and dogged but even then access to the main deck was through any door when necessary. This ship had a very low profile to the sea (sea going tug) and having doors open never compromised water tight integrity. Capt. Bob Leonti -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: David_L._Miller@ccmail.wiu.edu Subject: Brass/Bronze/Metal propellers I have been at a dead-end for months now, and find it amazing that I can not find any supplier of metal model ship's propellers at 1:350 scale (on any other scale, for that matter!). Are these a thing of the past? There are RC race boat props galore, but nothing for scale ships. There are some photo-etch blade sets that might work, but no metal cast props. Does anyone have a source, that you have used recently, for metal props? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: "FCR" Subject: Re: Sverdlov Hello Jim Are you looking for photos or models of the Sverdlov class? If you need some photos I can scan some to you. Compliments. Filipe C. Ramires Lisboa, PORTUGAL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Frank Allen Subject: Indianapolis Search / "Salmon" Photos / 11 November Reminder I understand that this year's search for the wreck of USS Indianapolis proved a total bust. Does anyone have any information as to whether or not the search will be resumed next year? Another "Salmon & Gluckstein" question: Has anyone come across photos from the recent Norge exploration of Scharnhorst? I've yet to see a thing. Lastly, I've been asked to remind everyone that 11 November is Rememberance Day (or Veterans Day here in the US). A few veterans & family members from HMS Hood will be attending a service at the Southsea Memorial in Pompey (Portsmouth) sometime that morning. Those of you in the area are welcome to attend. Frank Allen Member, HMS Hood Association http://hmshood.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: darsamr@supanet.com Subject: Steve Wiper's books Hi Steve As you have dabbled with some IJN kits in the past (got your Kirishima),how about something on the Zuikakau, Akagi Kirishima or Nagato? I know that there are some Polish publications on these subjects - but how many of us read Polish? Just a few suggestions to add to your rapidly growing list. Best wishes, Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: Tom Detweiler Subject: Re: Watertight Doors & Damage Control Reply to Mike Leonard, Bob - I was in from 68-71 on a Fram-II DD, two WesPacs. Interiors were all painted Gloss white, just as Rusty stated. Certain spaces in CIC or Sonar were an off-white or very slightly tinted white with very light green or blue just for a change. It facilitated cleaning and better light (generally poor inside). Underway deck doors depended entirely on weather conditions and the OOD. The AC was off more than on, so we often cruised at speed with after and forward vertical doors (closest to sleeping quarters) open. Horizontal doors were dogged but their hatches sometimes propped open at night. Under other conditions we both steamed or anchored with vertical doors open, but a set of thick rubberized black curtains drawn halfway across alternating, which allowed some ventilation but no light leaks. The deck watch was a factor, in that a change to heavier seas would be reported to the OOD and doors might be dogged tight as the seas changed. If we were on watch and started seeing heavy swells we shut the WT doors. It was all pretty much common sense, at least on our tin can. Tom Detweiler/IC2 USN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: "Mark C Krumrey" Subject: Purple Heart The Purple is awarded to those individuals who sustain wounds as the result of direct enemy action, while engaged in combat with the enemy. The Cole was not engaged in combat, nor are the Yemenis considered the "Enemy", a wordsmith would have a field day making Yemen Enemy, (Anagramists take note). Anyway! I did notice that during Desert Storm, Americans taken as POW's by the Iraqi's were awarded the Purple Heart. A curious twist. I don't know why. The crewmen on board the Cole who sustained wounds; enemy action not withstanding, will more than likely be awarded a Purple Heart. IMHO Mark Krumrey Master Gunnery Sergeant USMC (ret.) New RIchmond WI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32) From: Rick Heinbaugh Subject: Cool Book! - Tiger, Lion & Blake! White Ensign just sent me "Tiger, Lion & Blake 1942-1986" by Neil McCart. (Thanks, Caroline!) This is a wonderful book for anyone with an Airfix or Matchbox or Frog/Novo kit of Tiger in their loft. With one magnificent color photo showing the deck colors and some detail colors, and maybe 40-50 of the 125 other b & w photos showing GREAT details, this book takes each of the three cruisers through its history. THe photos are all well dated, so if you can find any differences (other than the obvious flight deck modification), you will be able to tell what period it dates from. Highly recommended! Rick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33) From: Allan and Crystal Plumb Subject: Re: HMS Delhi >> In the "Navires & Histoire" Nš4 is one article about the attack against the RN Light-Cruiser HMS Delhi. Besides the small picture that it comes in the "Jane's Fighting Ship's of WWII" I have never seen such image or draw of this cruiser after her refit in the USA. It is amazing ... I like it so much that I am going to built it in "scratch-built". Unfortunately there aren't many pictures of this ship in my archives, so if anyone have some pictures of the ship after the 1941 refit or top line drawings of it I would thank for some collaboration or even some information. << "British Cruisers of WWII" (Raven and Roberts) has at least four pictures, and overhead and side drawings of Delhi after her refit. And several pages of discussion of the changes. Allan Plumb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34) From: "dcarner1" Subject: Re: Steve's Books... Just wanted to toss my 2-cents worth into the thread: The recently released Classic Warships volume on CA-38, USS San Francisco was acquired from Hugh @ Colpar's out in Aurora,(Denver) CO. I ordered 2 copies and Hugh got them to me "quick-time". Needless to say, I forwarded one of these to my Dad in Maryland who served aboard from '44 through VJ-Day and abit beyond. Next thing I know, Dad calls and starts going on about what a fantastic piece of work the book is and what a shame he didn't know of it sooner. He would have liked to have contributed a few, "life on the ship" photos, etc. Seems the work piqued old memeories and the photo album was dusted off with trips back to Okinawa, Iwo and a score of others. Thanks, Steve for making a great book, (I bought my copy for reference work on my 1/350th, '42 fitting). If this one is any indication, whatever subject-matter is chosen for future endeavors, it'll be another winner! Bestest regards, Don Carner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 35) From: BSteinIPMS@aol.com Subject: Model of USS KIDD >> I hope a photo spread, or article, or book is forthcoming. o not pass up an opportunity to see this model. << Gary: Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate them. And, it means a lot coming from such an accomplished ship modeler. I hope I didn't get nose prints on your model's case from all the close scrutiny I gave it. Congratulations yourself on your achievement at the IPMS Nationals in Dallas! For those of you who have never met Gary, he's about seven feet tall, his hands are the size of bear traps, and after his handshake I'm not certain I'll ever regain the use of my right hand! (smile) How such a bigger-than-life guy can build such exquisite and tiny warship models is unfathomable. And yes, you'll get to see more of my model of KIDD if you have the interest. Seaways' Ships in Scale magazine (http://www.seaways.com/mag.html) will be running the complete building article on KIDD starting with the Jan/Feb 2001 issue, I'm told. The model will probably be featured on the cover and the article will span four to six issues. I sent them a lengthy manuscript and about 88 black and white "in progress" photos which illustrate everything I felt might be of interest to other ship modelers. FineScale Modeler magazine plans to run an article on the "Ship Model Competition and Exhibition 2000" held at the Mariners' Museum in Newport News, and possibly in the same issue they'll run a "Modeler's Showcase" type of article on my model of KIDD. This is just a short article with color photos which provide the interested reader with an overview of the model without going into building detail. The two magazines are aware of each other's KIDD article and, in fact, feel the two will be complimentary. FineScale Modeler likes lots of short, colorful "sound byte" types of articles and they'll mention the full-blown building article on KIDD can be found in Seaways' Ships in Scale. Since Kalmbach Publishing puts out FineScale Modeler (circulation about 84,000) and also distributes Seaways' Ships in Scale (circulation about 8000) for publisher Clay Feldman, this is a win-win situation for everyone. And thanks again, Gary, I enjoyed meeting you. Bob Steinbrunn Minneapolis Member, Nautical Research Guild Louisiana Naval War Memorial - USS Kidd, DD 661 The Mariners' Museum -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 36) From: BSteinIPMS@aol.com Subject: Watertight doors >> I have a lot, and I do mean alot, of photos of ships underway with all kinds of doors open. << Steve: I'd have to agree with this: of the 40 or so references I used in building the model of KIDD, a great many of the photos I pored over depicted DDs tearing across the water with doors open while the gun crews were closing up their mounts. Many of the FLETCHER class DDs appear to have the inside surfaces of the watertight doors painted white, many do not. Both round bridge and square bridge, it seems to make no difference what theater the ship was in or what measure of camouflage it was painted. The only rule seems to be......there are no rules. Bob Steinbrunn Minneapolis Member, Nautical Research Guild Louisiana Naval War Memorial - USS Kidd, DD 661 The Mariners' Museum -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 37) From: BSteinIPMS@aol.com Subject: Steve Wiper's books Steve: For what it's worth, it doesn't really matter to me what, exactly, you plan to publish in the future. Why? Because I have 'em all through #8, and I'll buy 'em all regardless of subject. Why? This one's easy: the great diversity and sharp printing of photos, the high quality of production of the book, the plans, T.A. Flowers' drawings, the color painting on the cover of TEXAS by Tom Freeman, and the very low retail price for the very high content, all of which represents excellent value. But I'd be especially interested in one devoted to the CASABLANCA class escort carriers. As you know, they built 50 of them, they saw action in every theater, some were downright famous, there are several kits of them, there are a great many photos in the archives just waiting for you to discover them, and this leads me to believe that many modelers would be interested in purchasing this one. Bob Steinbrunn Minneapolis Member, Nautical Research Guild Louisiana Naval War Memorial - USS Kidd, DD 661 The Mariners' Museum -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 38) From: Marc Flake Subject: Re: Dallas Hobby Shops Yes, Phil's is the best and MAL is right behind. MAL has a few ship kits, but books are where they excell. Ask for the ship books in the glass case. Other shops? Just a few blocks south is Wild Bill's. BIG selection of ships. And some BIG ships, too (be sure to look up when you're walking around). In downtown Dallas is Bobbye Halls. Mainly a train store, but they do have a modest selection of ship kits. Last time I was there they had some of the Zengdefu pre-dreadnoughts and a selection of Skywave kits. On the other side of the Metroplex, in Bedford off the Airport Freeway, there's Hobbymaker. They also have a good selection of ships. They have a bunch of wood sailing ship models, too, including some neat ship fittings. Head down through downtown Fort Worth to Old Tyme Hobbies in south Fort Worth (or maybe not, you won't find much ship-related stuff here that you wouldn't have already found in the other stores). Other than that, there's about three Hobbytown's, one each in Arlington, Fort Worth and Dallas. Mix in a few Michaels and Hobby Lobbies and you'll find that the Dallas/Fort Worth area is a veritable cornucopia of hobby shops. Strange thing is, I find myself doing most of my hobby shopping on the Internet. These guys just don't seem to carry what I'm looking for -- mostly. Marc -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 39) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Re: HMS Delhi Hi, There is a line drawing of the Delhi post-refit on pages 232-33 of Raven & Roberts' "British Cruisers of World War II," and there are post-refit photographs of her on pages 230-33 of the same book. I'm sure there are more photographs of her elsewhere, and there is also a very nice line drawing of her on page 97 of "Cruisers in Action 1939-1945" by Peter C. Smith and John Dominy. That's all I can think of.... Good choice and good luck, Felipe! Regards, Art Nicholson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 40) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Re: Konig References Hi, I may have missed it if it has already been mentioned (if so, sorry), but No. 26 in the Marine Arsenal series is on the Konig-class battleships. It is written by Siegfried Breyer, and has some of his drawings of the ships. Nice book! I presume it is still available. Cheers, Art Nicholson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 41) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Re: 1/200 Sep & Orzel Hi, On eBay this morning I noticed that someone had listed two 1/200 plastic kits of the Polish submarines Sep and Orzel from the Second World War. The manufacturer seemed to be "Accura" (didn't know Honda made models) or "Euromodel." Does anyone know anything about these kits and whether they are available now? No, these are not the 1/400 scale kits from Mirage.... Thanks, Art Nicholson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 42) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Modern Amtracks Our rip-off friends at Trumpeter have ripped off the Tamiya modern amtracks and they're in the hobby shops for about $15 USD - cheap. If the molds are any good, and you don't mind supporting outright piracy, go for it. Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 43) From: Ned Barnett Subject: WW - II Amtracks? Besides the Airfix Water Buffalo in 1/76, are there any kits out there of tracked amphibian landing craft (preferably a larger scale) - I'm not asking about antediluvian kits no longer available, but stuff I might actually be able to buy and build. Muchos Tacos, Muy Amigos ... Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 44) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Bainbridge (DD-1) I've got the resin kit of the Bainbridge, the first US Destroyer; now I'd like some references. Any suggestions? Also, any after-market accessories? Thanks Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 45) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Stealth Carrier? Buenos Nachos ... Stealth carrier? Who makes it/how much is it/where can I find it? Thanks Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 46) From: Ned Barnett Subject: U-571 Movie Diorama Tom Dougherty wrote: >> Why not go 1:350, as you can get a resin S-boat from Blue Water Navy and a Type VII in resin (the old Commander's series models). For 1:144, Revell has the U-99 kit, not altogether accurate but overall, not too bad. In 1:200, Nichimo makes a very nice (damn close to resin detail in styrene) Type IX-B and Type IX-C. The problem is going to be obtaining the 2 kits you need in compatible scales, hence my resin suggestion. Keep us posted.... << Tom, I might go 1/350, but in the larger scales, I can get crew figures from AFV or railroad-scale sources. Hence my frustration (I want to do that scene where the two boats are hove-to on that dark and stormy night). Are there "people" models in 1/350? Also, I think it would be easier to put a bull-nose on a Type IX than to put a Type IX-looking superstructure on an S-Boat ... probably avoid the cost of kit-bashing, anyway ... Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 47) From: Ned Barnett Subject: John and Caroline (Better late than never, I hope) I'm catching up on dated SMMLs (thanks, Shane) delayed due to computer gremlins. Read the following (then followed the link and had to read it 3 times to find the subtle message) ... From Alan Roots alanroots@aroots.freeserve.co.uk >> Congratulations and best wishes to you both on your engagement, here's to a long and happy life together. :-) Yes folks the announcement is buried in the text at: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/avenue/xdt22/news.htm#SCALEMODEL read it carefully. very crafty Caroline but some of us do read your news pages ya know. << First, my own sincere congratulations! And for modeler to marry modeler - that's got to be very special. (My own first marriage left me with memories of the best model workshop I ever built - primarily to get me out of the house - and a model vignette I did of me [self-portrait] in my model room spray painting a plane with my now ex-wife leaving me ... took her five more years to get the hint ... marriage #2 - the "keeper" - supports me in my modeling in remarkable ways ...) Anyway, congratulations, many blessings and best wishes to you both. Maybe you can merge businesses as well as lives, and package paint chips with your kits??? Next, Caroline, you made a subtle reference that John would "hump boxes with the best of us" ... I don't know about the UK, but in the US that's primarily an activity reserved for modelers who aren't engaged or married ... (was it Churchill who said that the US and UK were two countries separated by a common language???). Bad joke, but very good wishes. All the best Ned Barnett, Satisfied WEM customer since last summer ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume