Subject: SMML VOL 1053 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 23:36:27 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: HMS DELHI 2: Naval Weapons (guns) 3: Cole-photos 4: Purple Heart 5: Watertight doors 6: Re: brass props 7: Re: cole pics 8: Re: Celebs 9: Re: Cole photos, an obsevation 10: Re: Detail & Scale books for sale 11: Re: Stealth carrier 12: Squadron/Signal SALE on D & S 13: Re: Brass/Bronze/Metal propellers 14: Re: Detail & Scale books for sale 15: Re: Brass/Bronze/Metal propellers 16: Re: Celebs 17: IJN type 13 Subchaser 18: U.S. Civil War modelers 19: Airfix HMS Devonshire 20: Re: Book Topics 21: DD-1 22: Stealth Carrier 23: Veterans Day 2000 24: Los Angeles / San Diego hobby shops 25: D & S Squadron Books 26: Few thoughts 27: Stealth Carrier 28: Cleaners 29: Re: YAMATO 30: 1:72 FLOWER CLASS CORVETTE 31: Re: Bainbridge (DD-1) Sources 32: Re: D & S in Squadron Flyer 33: Re: Stealth Carrier 34: Re: Jap Lino 35: Re: Indianapolis Search 36: Re: Steve Wiper's books 37: North Carolina book 38: New ideas! 39: Navel Institute Press -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: IPMS/UK Report -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Warship Books announcement 2: Re: Brass/Bronze/Metal propellers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "sell4853" Subject: HMS DELHI Hi there Suggest that you have look at: http://www.internetmodeler.com/sept2000/new-releases/book_cruiser-sig.htm relates to modelling HMS DELHI Modelling the RN D class AA Cruiser HMS Delhi by John Brook John shows how he converted the Tamiya 1/700 IJN Tenyru to HMS Delhi. A very good read. Suggest other options for HMS DELHI are http://www.world-war.co.uk/index.htm Shows good photo of HMS Delhi at moorings fitted with US pattern 5.5" armament in A & B. turrets Also note dazzle disruptive camouflage scheme. http://www.roowe.freeserve.co.uk/Delhi.html Shows earlier photo possibly with original armaments and earlier pattern masts both fore and aft http://www.warships1.com/BRcl19_Delhi_prt.jpg Shows fine view port side http://www.naval-history.net/WW2BritishShipsCruisers.htm This is excellent site referring to RN cruisers including Delhi and sister ships one of which appears to have been transferred to Polish Navy in 1944 http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/5402/sss37.jpg Good close up view in Plymouth Sound 1942 From a very wet and flooded area of Kent (UK) Norman SELLS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "sell4853" Subject: Naval Weapons (guns) For anyone requiring detaails/information relating to armaments of Royal navy warships suggest you look at http://www.warships1.com/Weapons/WNBR_main.htm Norman Sells -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Bergschöld Pelle Subject: Cole-photos >> For anyone interested, I have a zip file with five jpg pictures of the USS Cole (DDG 67) loaded onto the Norwegian heavy transport ship M/V Blue Marlin located off the coast of Yemen. In addition to the blast damage, the entire undercarriage of the ship is visible. SONAR blister, props, shafts, rudder, . . . and for you waterliners who poked fun at the earlier thread concerning weathering of the lower hull, you get to see what salt corrosion does to a ships udder. Free to any good home. BTW, the zipped files is a bit over 400k. << Such an offer could not pass unattended. Would you please? Address is: pelle.bergschold@km.se and yes, 400K will be manageable. On the other hand, something for the SMML-site, perhaps? Pelle SWE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Bruce Buchner" Subject: Purple Heart Sometime back in the 80s the Purple Heart criteria was changed to include injuries suffered in a terrorist attack. Bruce Buchner LTC USA (Ret.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Percy_John@emc.com Subject: Watertight doors I spent a lot of time on the USS Kidd (the modern DDG, not the WW2 one) as a naval subcontractor. Now, this class of ship, when originally built, was intended for the Shah of Iran, but with the revolution, was taken into the USN. Consequently, since they were bound for the Middle east, this ship had excellent air conditioning. So good, in fact, that I often wore sweatshirts while working. But, I can hardly remember a door being dogged inside the ship - other than security areas, or during GQ. Outer doors were dogged, most of the time, but usually it was to keep the cool air in! John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Chris Rogers Subject: Re: brass props You should try the Prop Shop in the midlands UK they do all sorts of Brass props I can not say what there smallest scale is but they do have a web site or an email try the model boats site or magazine for their address regards chris Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: RhinoBones@aol.com Subject: Re: cole pics >> You know, those pics of Cole high and dry on the deck another ship give me lots of ideas about a dirorama. This is a way to display a full hull AT SEA << Cool idea. Another person, to whom I sent some pictures, expressed the notion that he was not as interested in the USS Cole as he was in the heavy lift ship Blue Marlin. Great. Good to know that some people have a larger world view than us war gamers. Carry through on your diorama concept. Regards, RhinoBones -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Craig R Bennett Subject: Re: Celebs Hi guys Here's a list of celebrates that served that I copied from a book Richard Burton, Richard Boone, Ernst Borgnine, Raymond Burr, Steve Allen, Cliff Robertson, James Arness, Desi Arnaz, Gene Autry, John Banner, Tony Bennett,and Art Carney. The books of Detail and Scale are located on the lower left corner of page 18. The numbers are USS AMERICA N-AE-1034, USS FORRESTAL -N-AE-1036, USS JOHN KENNEDY-N-AE-1042. BTW I came across this recently at a club meeting in a copy of the USNI - Nov,2000 issue of Proceedings. The NIP has a book on the Olympia for sale. Covering the ship history from Manila Bay in 1898 to her final decommissioning in 1921. It goes for $34.95 ,HB,264 pages with 40 pages of photos. ISBN-1-55750-148-3. Also a company called Oxford Museum Press has 3 books for sale all about $18.00. Their number is 1-877-712-1941 1. USS North Carolina BB-55 -technical history looks similar to a classic warship ,floating drydock,or pictorial histories book.. 2. The Battleship Scharnhost a collection of 160 pages of photos from crew members from WW2. 3. USS COD-SS-224 is a 80 page book of photos about the museum sub USS COD now preserved in Cleveland Ohio. I got it for $13.00. Their address is Oxford Museum Press Inc. 316 South College St. Oxford Ohio 45056 . Their website is www.oxfordmuseumpress.com I hope this of help. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Cole photos, an obsevation I was looking at the photos of the Cole on the Blue Marlin and I noticed there was no definitive black waterline boot. At first I thought it may have been weathering that may have eliminated it. After looking very closely at the photos I have, I can't see any partial remains of the waterline boot at all. Did the Navy go to a dark gray waterline boot? That would explain the faded appearance. Rusty White Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Order online with Visa & Master card (US only) "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Detail & Scale books for sale >> Can someone post the stock numbers and titles of the ship books in the flyer so I (and, maybe others) can try again? << David, Here ya go. N-AE 1042 USS John F Kennedy $8.99 N-AE 1034 USS America CVA-66 $6.99 N-AE 1036 USS Forrestal (SC) $8.99 Rusty White Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Order online with Visa & Master card (US only) "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Stealth carrier >> Stealth carrier? Who makes it/how much is it/where can I find it? << JAG Collective make the models and Squadron Mail Order had it on sale in their last catalogue. Rusty White Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Order online with Visa & Master card (US only) "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: " " Subject: Squadron/Signal SALE on D & S Here is the information you are looking for in the November 2000 Squadron Shop supplement #11 on page 18: #N AE 1034 USS America on sale for $6.99 #N AE 1036 USS Forrestal on sale for $8.99 #N AE 1042 USS John F. Kennedy on sale for $8.99 Hope this helps out. Looks like very good prices for somewhat hard to find s/b books. Loren Pike Spring, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Edward F Grune" Subject: Re: Brass/Bronze/Metal propellers Hello SMMLies I'll jump in on this before Rusty does. Flagship offers etched brass surface ship propellers in 350, 400, and 500 scales. They include 3, four, and 5 blade props. See the link at: http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ Now if I can talk Rusty into doing some smaller. Ed Mansfield, TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com Subject: Re: Detail & Scale books for sale Denis writes >> I read the recent postings about the sale at Squadron Mail Order of the D&S book on the uss John F. Kennedy (which I happen to have already) and several others. I called Squadron this morning, and they did not know what I was talking about. The lady looked (she said) at the November sales flyer and could not find any ship books - and no D&S books. Can someone post the stock numbers and titles of the ship books in the flyer so I (and, maybe others) can try again? << That is so typical of Squadron Mail Order. I have called several times on items in their so-called sale flyer and they say something like "can't find it", "must be a mis-print", "not in yet", or "all gone". In addition to, in my experience, lousy service, I can't see how anyone is able to do business with them..... Just my experiences with them. This and their high prices, is why I no longer do business with them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Eric Hougland Subject: Re: Brass/Bronze/Metal propellers >> I have been at a dead-end for months now, and find it amazing that I can not find any supplier of metal model ship's propellers at 1:350 scale (on any other scale, for that matter!). Are these a thing of the past? There are RC race boat props galore, but nothing for scale ships. There are some photo-etch blade sets that might work, but no metal cast props. Does anyone have a source, that you have used recently, for metal props? << Try: www.modelersboatyard.com/shipsnthings/index.html A pop-up menu contains pages for 3-, 4- and 5-bladed cast bronze propellers. These props, ostensibly marketed for R/C kits and conversion, aren't really to any set scale, but I ordered some 1/4" bronze props to use on a Gelncoe 1/400 S.S. United States kit, and they look rather well. They're pretty cool as little objects in their own right. They are not particularly cheap, however the owners are a pleasure to deal with and my orders arrived well in advance of their estimates. Les Case -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Re: Celebs The Naval Institute Press has done a series of books on Hollywood types who served in the military (mainly WW2 and Korean War) -- Stars in Blue -> USN and Coast Guard Stars in the Corps -> USMC Stars in Khaki -> Army and Air Force Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Cataldo Torelli Subject: IJN type 13 Subchaser Hi, I'm planning to build a 1/700 Tamiya type 13 Subchaser (the one that comes with the US Gato sub and the B-24 Liberator bomber) and I'm looking for the followings: 1. Comments about the kit: accuracy, improvements. For the subchaser and the Gato sub. 2. Photos, drawings, info in general and about rigging in particular. Any web? Anybody could send me some scans? 3. What is the best translation in spanish for the word "subchaser"? Thanks in advance, Cataldo Torelli Madrid, Spain -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: U.S. Civil War modelers Re C.S.S. Hunley thread - there is a "cottage industry" specifically making Civil War vessels and siege guns: Military Mites Box 2324 Rockville, Maryland 20847-2324 E-mail: RAY8017@aol.com Send for their catalog. They do not specify resin or injection molding. Prices seem to be fair. They have two models of the Hunley. One , @ $89.95 + 1/32 scale - full vessel The other, @ at $110.95, sae scale, is a cutaway with complete interior. They offer 7 guns and 6 ships. I have not actually seen these products so I cannot comment on the quality. Regards, John - Seattle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Airfix HMS Devonshire The October/November 1993 issue of the Airfix Magazine contained an article entitled 'Devonshire In Detail'. In it the author refers to a second article concerning the Batch 2 County Class Destroyers which was due to be published in the following edition (ie December 1993). Can anyone let me have a copy of that article? I will pay any costs involved of course. Thanks in anticipation. Les Brown Hi Les, I wish I could help you out with that issue, but unfortunately the issue you're reading is the very last Airfix Magazine printed. It vanished up it's fundamental orifice very shortly after that, much to the dismay of modellers everywhere ;-((. As for if part two was ever published anywhere, I've yet to come across it & since Alan Hall wrote it, I doubt very much if it's ever been published. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Bill Rowe Subject: Re: Book Topics A useful series to the modeler might be books that examine different Solutions to the same problem. Examples are South Carolina, Dreadnought, and a Japanese ship that came very close to being All big Gun, Akagi and Kaga vs. the Lexingtons, or 1943 (pick an interesting year) New Fleet Destroyers. This might lead to some nice dioramas. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: "Ken Goldman" Subject: DD-1 Hi Ned, I also have the BWN Bainbridge kit. I think there is/was a build article on the Warship site. If you find any additional references please pass on the info. The kit looks very good, but there is a serious lateral arc from true in the lower hull in my kit. It would be great for steaming in circles :-}) Whether I can straighten it out will determine if I build it full hull as originally planned or as a waterline model. If as a waterline, she'd have to be at anchor, because I wouldn't want to have to "stow" all the neat PE awning supports. As for your "U-51" diorama, Gold Medal Models sells a 1:350 PE set of sailors. I used some of them in my diorama of Ensign Kazuo Sakamaki (POW #1) surrendering on a beach on Oahu of 07 December 1941. Ken Goldman THE WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER unique wood sculpture and fine scale models www.walruscarpenter.com PS: After sending my first post on the Bainbridge (DD-1) model, I found a photo of her underway with the awning frames in place. Apparently they were a permanent fixture. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Floridian2day@aol.com Subject: Stealth Carrier Ned, The Stealth Carrier you inquired about is offered by JAG. The model itself is based on the cover article in a fall 98 Popular Mechanics. The kit is 1/700 scale and cast in resin. A lazer cut/etched flight deck is provided in the kit along with a complete photoetch sheet. Other features include a full compliment of aircraft and deck tractors. The kit can be obtained through Pacific Front Hobbies as well as Squadron Mail order. Check out Rob Mackie's Warship site for some photos. thanks Gene of JAG -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "Bruce" Subject: Veterans Day 2000 11 Nov.2000 is the first Veterans Day of the 21st Century. As we have done since 1919, Americans pause to salute the brave men and women who have served in the Armed Forces of the United States. This day was originally set aside as a day of observance for those who fought and died in the "Great War," World War I -- the "war to end all wars." Obviously, World War I was not the end of warfare; in fact, it was the precursor of warfare throughout the 20th Century. So with history as our guide, members of our Armed Forces undoubtedly will be called upon to go into harm's way in the new century. Our men and women in uniform, serving around the globe today, stand ready to answer that call. In 1954, Veterans Day became a tribute to all those who have served America in all wars. It is fitting to note that this change came on the heels of another important conflict, the Korean War. During this commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the Korean War, we should pay honor to our veterans of that conflict. Their great sacrifice embodies the spirit of selflessness in the face of overwhelming deprivation and hardship. This Veterans Day, I challenge every American to consider the sacrifice of those who lost their lives in our Nation's struggles to preserve liberty and freedom. Whether attending a parade, a memorial service or observing the day in private, pause at the 11th hour to reflect upon and mark this occasion. Hi, With the last Rememberance/Armistice Day (this is what Australia & the Commonwealth call it) of the 20th Century fast approaching, the above applies to ALL veterans of ALL countries & for ALL people around the world. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: NEVENGER@aol.com Subject: Los Angeles / San Diego hobby shops Hey guys: I will be traveling at the end of the month to L.A. for business and was wondering if anyone could point out some of the better hobby shops there. I will also be paying homage to a buried family member in San Diego as well and was wondering if there are any good shops around there as well. Feel free to send direct to my email address Nevenger@aol.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: "Bruce Simard" Subject: D & S Squadron Books In yesterday's digest, Denis Campbell requested information on the D & S Books in the November supplement from Squadron. Denis & List, For everyone's info, the D & S books on the America,Forrestal, and JFK are all listed at sale prices in this month's flyer. The USS America - Stk # N-AE1034 at $6.99, The USS Forrestal - N-AE1036 at $8.99, and the USS John F. Kennedy - N-AE1042 at $8.99. They also have a decent sale price on the Tamiya 1/700 JMSDF LST-4001 recent release for $16.99, not too bad. Hope this helps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Few thoughts It is my first post here so HI ALL!!! Answering to J.P.Downing and all other pre-dreadnoughts fans -there is now plastic injected 1/700 scale 'Mikasa' from 'Seals Models'. Look at: http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?intsmp-01 I also do read Polish so if anybody is desperate for a translation drop me an e-mail,but please only in helpless cases OK?? ;-) Best wishes D.Przezdziecki -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: "Daniel Taylor" Subject: Stealth Carrier Ned wrote: >> Stealth carrier? Who makes it/how much is it/where can I find it? << Surely the point of stealth craft is that you can't find them. ; ) Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: "Chris Cameron" Subject: Cleaners Hi all, Just a short question What is the best cleaning agent to use on plastic prior to painting using acrylic and what is the best cleaning agent to use on photo-etching? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: "WEM" Subject: Re: YAMATO >> As for a condenced history of the Yamato: She was launched, fitted and comissioned, hidden, refitted, paraded out only to be bombed, hidden and refit again, sent out on a suicide mission and sunk without ever sighting an enemy ship. << Oh Duane, Duane..... Without ever sighting an enemy ship? Better not tell that to Cliff Sprague and the men of Taffy that were on the receiving end of her 18" shells at the Battle of Cape Engano. The things one has to put up with from a Coastie!! John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys http://www.shipcamouflage.com (In England and definitely working...) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: "DUCKMAN" Subject: 1:72 FLOWER CLASS CORVETTE THE KIT IS FAIR AT BEST. AVAILABLE FROM SQUADRON HOBBIES--80.00 U.S. DAVID -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: "Kevin W. Woodruff" Subject: Re: Bainbridge (DD-1) Sources Ned: Some sources that may help you in modeling the USS Bainbridge (DD-1): Davison, Louis. United States Destroyers / by Louis Davison.Pensacola, FL: Louis Davison, 1974, Schofield, William G. (William Greenough), 1909- Destroyers, 60 years / text by William G. Schofield; prepared by Burdette & Co.. New York: Rand McNally, 1962]. Yates, Brock W. Destroyers and destroyermen; the story of our "tin can" Navy. [1st ed.] New York, Harper [1959] Friedman, Norman, 1946- U.S. destroyers: an illustrated design history / by Norman Friedman; profile drawings by A.D. Baker III. London: Arms and Armour Press, 1982. Smith, Peter Charles, ßd 1940- Hard lying: the birth of the destroyer, 1893-1913 [by] Peter Smith. Naval Institute Press, 1971 Lyon, David, 1942- The first destroyers /David Lyon ; plans and cutaway drawings by John Roberts. London : Chatham Pub., 1996. World War I American Destroyers, TBD-1 through TBD-16 A Collection of Blueprints By Duane D. Borchers, Sr. BK-008, $60.00 (Foreign; $70.00 surface-$80.00 air) This is a 11" X 17" soft cover book of plans. It contains 52 blueprints, ship histories and ships history of the first fleet of U.S.Destroyers. A total of 141 pages. Available from The Maryland Silver Company P.O. Box 6220 Annapolis, MD 21401 e-mail: mdagco@starpower.net phone: 410-451-2135 http://www.marylandsilver.com/books.htm Some online pictures of the Bainbridge are at: http://www.plateau.net/usndd/classbain.html http://www.ussnicholas.org/bainbridge_1.html http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/001.htm http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/destroyers/dd1-bainbridge.jpg http://www.warships1.com/USdd0001_Bainbridge_pics.htm Hope this helps Kevin W. Woodruff -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32) From: MDDoremus@aol.com Subject: Re: D & S in Squadron Flyer I'm not making this up, I swear! Check the November Supplement, page 18, lower left corner, light pink highlight. N-AE1034 USS America..............$6.99 N-AE1036 USS Forrestal.............$8.99 N-AE1042 USS John F Kennedy.$8.99 HTH Mark Doremus Eden Prairie, MN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33) From: "Mike C" Subject: Re: Stealth Carrier It somehow seems fitting that a Stealth Carrier would be difficult to find. JAG makes them and I've seen them advertised at Pacific Front Hobbies. Can't recall the price, though. Hope this helps. Col. Flagg -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Jap Lino >> 1/ Lino came off from c.1942 onwards and nothing built thereafter had it << Never say never!! That will always come back to bite you in the ass! I have picks of the partially sunken IJN Aoba at the end of WWII, and that ship has lino on the decks! I would say that it was different from ship to ship, and maybe by the area where they were? Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 35) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Indianapolis Search >> I understand that this year's search for the wreck of USS Indianapolis proved a total bust. Does anyone have any information as to whether or not the search will be resumed next year? << I spoke with a source, who is one of the "Ballard" crew, and was told that they looked where he told them not to!!! This person said that the Japanese location for Indy's final resting place is probably more correct. But, no they looked where they wanted, wasted lots of money. Dont think they will look again. Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 36) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Steve Wiper's books >> As you have dabbled with some IJN kits in the past (got your Kirishima),how about something on the Zuikakau, Akagi Kirishima or Nagato? I know that there are some Polish publications on these subjects - but how many of us read Polish? << I am compiling a huge file on Japanese BB's. Hope to do something this nest year. Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 37) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: North Carolina book I just got my copy of the North Carolina book by R. Shoker, at Oxford Museum Press, and it is great. A friend was looking at it with me a remarked on how similar to my books that this one was. I took that as a complement to both myself and to the really good job on the NC book. Lots of great photos, now and during W.W.II. A large separate drawing sheet is also included in 1/350 scale. I thought this was a really good book, and well worth the price. They are available at Pacific Front Hobbies, and a lot of other book and hobby dealers. Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 38) From: "John Lambert" Subject: New ideas! Hi All With the excellent reviews recently received about my drawings in "Model Ship Journal" (Thank you). I have been considering new avenues for expanding my sales of drawings. I have a number of ideas in the pipeline. If my 400 sheets of detailed drawings, built up over almost 30 years are sitting stowed away in my plans chest, then they are not available. I am considering having my drawings reduced to A3 size and bound as a Portfolio. I am then able to offer a set of selected drawings covering particular subjects. Early provisional thoughts are: Flower Class Corvettes. (Two portfolios each containing about 40 sheets). The Fairmile "A" Motor Launch. Including weapons fits. (25-30 sheets). The Fairmile "B" Motor Launch. Including weapons fits. (25-30 sheets). The Fairmile "C" Motor Gun Boat. Including weapon fits. (25-30 sheets). The Fairmile "D" - Combined Motor Gun Boat/Motor Torpedo Boat. Including weapons fits. (25-30 sheets). The 72 Ft Harbour Defence Motor Launch. Including weapons fits. (25-30 sheets). The X-51 Class Post War Midget Submarines. A selection of Admiralty Trawler Types. A selection of British Submarine Classes. A selection of Motor Torpedo Boats. A selection of W.W.II R.N. Minesweepers A selection of R.N. "Ships Boats". Naval Weapons: 2 Pounder Pom Poms. All the mountings that utilised this common gun.(Single, quad and 8 barrelled Mountings) 40mm Bofors Mountings in R.N. use. 20mm Oerlikon Mountings in RN use. Anti-submarine fittings, depthcharges, Hedgehog, Squid and equipment. Destroyer weapons. 3", 4", 4.5" and 4.7" Mountings. These are preliminary ideas. May I have YOUR thoughts please. Do I go ahead in the year 2001? John Lambert (Where the sun shines). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 39) From: Donald Bridge Subject: Navel Institute Press Hi Guys I'm looking at getting some of the Naval Institute Press titles and I was wondering how much overlap there is between their titles. Of particular interest are the Guide to the Soviet Navy (5th edition) and the Guide to the Ships & Aircraft of the US Fleet. However I will be getting the Guide to the Combat Fleets of the World and I was wondering how much of the material from this is reproduced in the other two and in that light are they worth getting. Don Bridge -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "WEM" Subject: IPMS/UK Report Well, Caroline has been after me to put a report together, so here goes. In a word, the IPMS/UK Nationals make the IPMS/USA Nationals look like small potatoes in comparison. The event completely fills the main floor of the Convention Center at Telford, and is a much larger venue than any U.S. Nationals I've seen. Oh, I know, one can argue that the sheer size of the United States argues that attendance will be smaller given the distances that people have to travel to attend. But that argument doesn't wash when you consider the size of the area from which this event draws its attendance: all of the U.K. and most of Europe. This is truly an international event. While the number of models entered in competition seemed smaller than at the U.S. Nationals, the number of models on hand was FAR larger, given the number displayed by individual IPMS chapters, branches and SIGs that rent space: I'm estimating that there were probably between 5,000 and 6,000 models on display. Vendors? Can you say vendors? If it's a model, or model-related, you could probably find it at Telford. And for you who have been vendors at U.S. Nationals, you have no idea how busy one can be. The White Ensign stand on Saturday was positively heaving with customers, keeping Caroline and Dave, Duane Fowler and me hopping; Sunday was a little less hectic, but still busy. A number of scheduled and unscheduled workshops added to the things available for attendees. Another impression: this is a 2-day event, with vendors arriving and setting up on Friday afternoon/evening. IPMS members are allowed entry to the vendors at 9AM on Saturday, with the general public entering an hour later. The Center closes around 6 PM on Saturday, allowing everyone a reasonable evening to relax and eat, and the show closes around 6 PM on Sunday. A 2-day event seems like a much better idea to me than the Wednesday - Sunday U.S. Nationals. Those consume nearly a week, counting travel time, and that's just too much; you can only wander around the vendors' room and the contest room so many times.... Finally, packing and unpacking for the vendors is made easier by the fact that one can drive vehicles right into the Center and up to one's stand, negating all the scurrying and carrying of boxes that marks the U.S. Nationals. I REALLY enjoyed this event, including the chance to meet a lot of nice ship modelers and SMMLies. Judging, as Graham has already posted, was arduous, given the quality of the models entered. Who knows, by the time of the next Telford show, maybe I'll even have my PT ready for entry... At any rate, I'm already looking forward to next year... and to the Fleet Air Arm Museum show in February! Your Roving Reporter in Sunny(?) England, John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys http://www.shipcamouflage.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Keith Butterley Subject: Warship Books announcement Hi all, Warship Pictorial #9 - Yorktown Class Carriers 64 pages packed with 119 photos of some of the most famous aircraft carriers in the US Navy. These are the ships that saved America during a dark time in its history. Many photos never published before. This book covers all three ships of this class, USS Yorktown CV-5, USS Enterprise CV-6 and USS Hornet CV-8. Warship Pictorial #10 - Indianapolis & Portland Brought back by popular demand, USS Indianapolis CA-35 in a new format with many new photos, and coverage of her sister ship, USS Portland CA-33. 64 pages packed with 122 photos of two famous US Navy heavy cruisers that fought hard battles throughout WWII, "Indy" and her crew a tragic loss before the end of the war. Price for each Canada $18CDN USA/INT'L $12US UK 9GBP Shipping for one or both Canada $4CDN USA $3US INT'L $7US UK 5GBP Regards Keith Butterley http://www.warshipbooks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Brass/Bronze/Metal propellers >> I have been at a dead-end for months now, and find it amazing that I can not find any supplier of metal model ship's propellers at 1:350 scale (on any other scale, for that matter!). Are these a thing of the past? There are RC race boat props galore, but nothing for scale ships. There are some photo-etch blade sets that might work, but no metal cast props. Does anyone have a source, that you have used recently, for metal props? << Classic Warships has prop kits for DD's, CL/CA's, and BB's Call for info, or see the web site listing. Steve Wiper www.classicwarships.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume