Subject: SMML VOL 1080 Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 19:23:49 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: A to I class DDs basics 2: IPMS/USA Journal Problem 3: Re: WW I Glencoe Subchaser Kit 4: Liberty Ship 5: Cabot 6: Re: SS United States 7: Casablanca CVE's and other stuff........ 8: Re: Gold anchors 9: Academy sub model 10: Re: Liberty Ship Bootes 11: Re: WWI subchaser 12: Re. Paint Booths 13: A requalification or rectification 14: Lambert and Ross The missing volumes? 15: Liberty ship "Bootes" 16: Re: December IPMS Hornet/SMML? 17: Why criticsm of PH movie does matter 18: Torpilleurs 19: Prince of Wales Camo 20: eBay Blowout! 21: Pearl Harbor-Get A Life-IT'S ONLY A MOVIE 22: French Destroyers 23: Re: H.M.S. Devonshire Funnel 24: Cutthroat Large Scale Vehicle (LSV) 25: ICM and missing parts 26: Re: Gold anchors 27: Looking for good DDG-51 kit 28: Re: Academy U-Boat 29: WWI Sub Chasers 30: French Destroyers 31: Re: Foxer or CAT 32: Caine Mutiny 33: Naval Vessel Register 34: Re: Fate of USS CABOT 35: Re: Gearing Class DDs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: IPMS Flight 19 auction & holiday party 2: Hornet SMML Con 2001 3: Washington DC area SMMLcon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: December Internet Modeler 2: Sale Blue Water Navy 3: USS HOGA by Corsair Armada 4: December Reviews on ModelWarships.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Cooper, Mike" Subject: A to I class DDs basics OK, don't read any further if you like clever model-making! This is strictly quick 'n' dirty..... As you're all probably aware I like British Destroyers (I only used "DDs" in the subject field as three letters present less chance of mistyping). I scratched HMCS Gatineau some time back, and the arrival of the new Alan Raven book gave me some more colour schemes to play with. Having scratchbuilt one A-I (an E in this case) I didn't fancy going over a lot of the same ground again, and was pleased as Punch when last night I found a handy short cut whilst not watching the X Files. Given some scratchbuilding, you can easily use the Tamiya/Skywave O Class hulls as a basis for an effective A-I class hull. At 14mm the beam is about OK and the Tamiya kit is in any case too short to do an accurate O straight from the box, but it does offer a robust basis for an A-I hull. The basic method is: A, B, G, H & I classes - Assemble the two parts of the hull and clear all detail from the deck. Measure 140mm from the stern and mark off. Measure just over 90mm from the stern and mark off. Cut at 140mm to remove a section of bow, and cut at the 90mm mark down only to main deck level to remove the aft part of the foc'sle. You'll need to tidy up, and reshape, but the hull will be OK in proportion. D, E and F Classes - as above, but the marks are 143mm and at just under 94mm. This is all very quick 'n' dirty, but it works and is a real time saver in what is basically a scratchbuild. Do check my measurements, and seek out drawings. For a good range of pictures and fascinating text see English, John Amazon to Ivanhoe World Ship Society, 1993. Mike Cooper (Dull and dreary Reading UK. By the way our Wilde statue turned into Wilde gates, and we got coverage on Russian TV!!) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Tom Eisenhour Subject: IPMS/USA Journal Problem Hi gang: I received my current copy of the IPMS/USA Journal a couple of days ago and the collation is totally screwed up: there are duplicates of some pages and other pages are completely omitted. Unfortunately, Rusty White's Gato-class sub article -- the ONE article I was interested in -- was one of the ones deleted. Did anyone get a copy of the Journal that had the article? Thanks, Tom -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: AandMBlevins@gateway.net Subject: Re: WW I Glencoe Subchaser Kit You are indeed fortunate to reside in the Bay State. Glencoe is located at Box 846, Northboro, Massachusetts 01532. I just purchased a Glencoe USS OREGON /MASSACHUSETTS kit and the sub chaser is shown on the box, so I assume it is still in production. I ordered mine through a local hobby shop here in Albany, NY. Good luck Al Blevins Born and bred in the "Land of the Bean and the Cod" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: tom dean Subject: Liberty Ship Hi Gang: Thanks to all who replied on and off the list to my request about a Liberty Ship model. I have given all the info to the gentleman to decide. Again it proves the value of lists such as these. Tom Dean Hamilton, Ontario Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Shirley Sachsen Subject: Cabot >> Say what you want about the Navy's donation program (and when I was a long-distance part of the Bremerton/Seattle/Tacoma effort for the Hornet ten years ago, I frequently did), but at least it sets standards for acquisition and upkeep, and instills some discipline in the process. << Funny how two cities and two groups can fight like cats and dogs over the Forrestal (which will be a MAJOR handful to keep in shape), yet no one can step up with $180,000 to save one of the last survivors of the great war to save humanity -- and funny how people will willingly plunk down big bucks to plunder yet again the graves of the Titanic or Andrea Doria, but don't give a national damn about saving the history that's still afloat. Hmmm.< Indeed. and this is primarily what I was getting at: here are all these fan clubs chasing lost causes (Midway, Saratoga, Ranger, America, Forrestal), having to raise millions, when there's an available hull that's more manageable and affordable for a pittance. >> Besides, I still wonder what's so wrong with "Tora! Tora! Tora!" -- which, despite some overacting by some minor characters, still holds its own after 31 years. << yes, Tora!3 still holds up--even though it always comes out the same at the end >> As with baseball teams who want to junk their historic old ballparks in favor of new retro-style ballparks, I guess folks are more interested in a Disneyized/"Titanic" version of history, complete with obligatory sex scenes and a gunfight in the middle of the bloody sinking, instead of something that may not be sexy, but *is* authentic. << You said it! we've had similar problems with our Youth Live-Aboard Program. part of the evening is spent in front of TV monitors looking at movies. Top Gun is the preferred choice. In fact, on one of the evaluations, there was the remark "show real movies, kids are bored with history". The irony of such a remark about an overnight on a carrier where the history is supposed to be hands on is staggering. It's my favorite evaluation line, along with the indictment after one of our Big Band dances: "Swing isn't music I can dance to." >> Apologies for the rant. << no apologies necessary. you said it more eloquently than I could have and are right on. s -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Craig R Bennett Subject: Re: SS United States Hi Guys Concerning the SS United States she is still exists in Philadelphia tied to a pier on Delaware Ave and has recieved national land mark status. The people behind it want to make her into a floating hotel. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Ralph Nardone" Subject: Casablanca CVE's and other stuff........ Hello, all! As I have been wondering from whom/when we'd see a Casablanca class CVE as well, lo and behold......... >> Pit Road has plans to release one the next year (IIRC). << Woo Hoo! Another one to add to the collection! :) Joe Sapek wrote: >> I have just gotten interested in model shipbuilding. I am interested in the Gearing class destroyers. Has anyone built a scratch unit or one of the resin hull kits. Any thoughts, comments, etc. will be greatly appreciated. << I have both the Tom's Modelworks and the Blue Water Navy 1/350 scale resin kits, and I'd go with the BWN kit. The molding is crisper and sharper. I suppose one day I'll build it up. I believe the Tom's kit was one of his first, or that the molding was done by another firm--the hull edges are rounded where they meet the deck, and (IIRC) the funnel is shaped wrong. For me, though, I will use this to practice resin ship techniques, so all is not lost........ Both of these are WWII configuration, BTW. JAG has a neat looking FRAM Gearing in 1/700....... Victor Baca wrote: >> Jeez--get a life, it's only a movie. << I second that nomination........... Jodie wrote: >> As with the SS United States (still around, yes, but for how much longer?), the Cabot's demise is a sick, sad story. Funny how two cities and two groups can fight like cats and dogs over the Forrestal (which will be a MAJOR handful to keep in shape), yet no one can step up with $180,000 to save one of the last survivors of the great war to save humanity << Jodie and I have discussed this at great length--it is a shame to see the Cabot get scrapped, especially so because of her historic past (The Cabot, not Jodie :) ). I wonder how many groups know how much work is involved in the day-to-day upkeep one a ship the size of the Cabot--let alone the Forrestals! I would wager that it takes a lot of hours to keep a ship that size in good shape. Look at Patriot's Point--from what Jodie tells me, the ships there range in condition from okay to so-so. The same holds true for most aviation museums--we took a trip to see the Valiant Air Command's museum in Titusville, FL not too lang ago, and some of the things we saw, well, weren't a good omen. I understand that budgets are tight, and voulunteers are hard to come by, but if you can't do it right, why bother doing it at all? (Okay, I know I'll get BBQ'd for that remark, donning NOMEX suit) >> Apologies for the rant. << Me, too! :) That's all I have for now. Til next time, have fun. If you aren't, you must be doing something wrong......... Ralph Nardone President, General, Doctor, and Dictator-for-life, Retired IPMS (USA)/Flight 19 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Kdg345@aol.com Subject: Re: Gold anchors I visited an Amphibous supply (or something like that) in Seattle last summer and asked the same question with the same answer. Ken Groom, Kent WA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: Academy sub model >> Academy 1/150 U-boat kit to build... what's about this kit? << Include the motor, add batteries and give it to a 5 year old. Paint optional. Kit rates a "Blech" Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: Liberty Ship Bootes >> Does anyone know about Liberty Ship Bootes? Skywave has a kit of her, and that of Sabik. I found Sabik on the list of libery ships which I found on a website. But the list didn't have Bootes. Was there the ship whose name was Bootes? << This Liberty was first named the Thomas Oliver Larkin. She was acquired by the US Navy and renamed USS Bootes AK99. Cheers, Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: WWI subchaser >> In a recent SMML journal PT191@AOL.com mentioned a Glencoe kit for a WW1 110' subchaser. I will appreciate it if anyone will advise me of where I can see such a kit, in the Boston (Massachusetts) area? Lacking this information, advice on where I could get one by mail-order would be nice. << Franklyn, I think this is a current item that should be in most hobby shops. I had four of them and sold them all but one on Ebay. (that one is ion my "to do someday" shelf. If you can't find one I'll check the local bobby shops here. Cheers, Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Jim Johnson" Subject: Re. Paint Booths I have also built my own paint booth. It is made of 1/2" plywood with 3 sides. I designed and built it to house a furnace filter between the spray area and the fan. The filter is 20" x 25" so the booth is that approximate size. If you do this, go the store and buy a filter and make the booth to this size. not the other way around. There is a plennum above the filter where the fan takes suction. The fan is a bathroom vent fan. It is vented to the outside through a clothes drier vent pipe and a drier vent that goes through a basement window. When I first built it, I put two recessed lights in each side. I put 40 watt bulbs in them and this is plenty of light. I change the bulbs about every year because they get overspray on them and make them dull. I wired the lights and the fan to a switch on the side of the booth so they both came on at the same time. I also had an outlet wired into the switch so that the compressor came on at the same time. If you do this, don't hard wire it. I ran what amounted to a lead cord to a hard wired outlet. The lead cord has a plug on it. This keeps it "according to code". There were some problems with this arrangement. If you wanted to keep the fan running, you had to keep the compressor and lights going too. I was looking for a quieter fan and found a switch in amongst the bathroom fans in the hardware store. It has three switches on it. One for the fan, one for the light and one for the nightlight. I used it for switching the fan, the lights and the compressor. If you use one, just be sure that the ratings of the switch are not exceeded by the devices. I found a quieter fan and suggest anyone who does this to use one too. I have a fan which is rated at .6 scones. Fans are designed to run in the attic and noise is not usually a design criteria. When the fan is in the same room with you, it will be a lot louder than what you are used to. I have a silent compressor so I can spray paint and still hear the radio/TV/phone/wife/kids. In theory, it is possible to create an explosive mixture that could be set off by a sparking fan, but the series of events that would have to take place in order to happen make it virtually impossible. The painting would have to be started before the fan. The fumes would have to pass through the filter without the fan pulling them through. They would have to go through the fan housing and through the small hole where the shaft from the motor goes through the housing. If there were enough fumes to do all that, you would have been overcome by the fumes and would not be able to turn on the switch. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Subject: A requalification or rectification Sorry Al, (It is my age)! I should have stated, that we both work from home. (but we have NOT left the ratrace). We are both self employed and our own governors! (But under supervision)! Oh for more hours in the day! John Lambert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "nickbalmer" Subject: Lambert and Ross The missing volumes? Where can we find another publisher for the missing volumes? Surely there must be a more suitable who would take these books on. Having built the Allied boats (some time in the distant future) where are we going to find someone to do the E boats, R boats and Flak Lighters to challenge them? Is there a German "Lambert" out there? Many thanks guys for books that have given me hours and hours of fun. Regards Nick Balmer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: cfrieden@calpoly.edu Subject: Liberty ship "Bootes" There was indeed a Liberty Ship named Bootes. The list you refer to is probably a list of Liberty Ship names at the time of their launchings. The Bootes was given the name Thomas Oliver Larkin by the Maritime Commission, and was turned over to the Navy upon completion. It was then that the name was changed to Bootes. As with most Navy Liberty Ships the Bootes was returned to the Maritime Commision after the war. The Sabik, on the other hand, was aquired by the Navy while she was still on the ways and was therefore had already been renamed by the time of her launch. Sabik, BTW, was originally named the William Becknell. HTH, Chris Friedenbach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: Why criticsm of PH movie does matter Yes it is "only a movie". But then again, the subject matter, Pearl Harbor, was a historical event of utmost tragedy and significance to the United States. I do NOT want to "get a life" where my national heritage is taken lightly or treated with the kind of indifference as expressed by Mr. Baca. This will ultimately lead to its destruction, as so happened in the case of the USS Cabot. There is a larger theme to the anxiousness over the upcoming PH movie, and our general obsessiveness with detail and accuracy in model building. As more and more of the past is obliterated and forgotten, paved over and scrapped, it is increasingly left up to a handful of people like us model builders to preserve an accurate record of ships that earned a better fate than the scrapyard and obscurity. When you are working on your next model ship project, think of it as bringing her back, in miniature, from the scrapyard. My rant for today. Cheers Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Torpilleurs Dear All I just wanted to say thanks to Cliff, Paul and Jacques for all the useful information on the torpilleurs. I am now awaiting the Marines Editions book on the Bourrasque class. But does anyone know the number of La Railleuse? Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Prince of Wales Camo In "British Battleships of World War Two", by Alan Raven and John Roberts, there is a port and starboard color reproduction of the camouflage pattern worn by HMS Prince of Wales in 1941. It's a very complex scheme that uses five different colors (refer to page 396). Does anyone know if this camouflage was still being worn at the time the ship was sunk? Can anybody match these colors to the S&S chips? Mike Alexandria, VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: eBay Blowout! During the month of December I'll be selling off a large portion of my collection of classic 'box scale' plastic ship models on eBay. These include a few rare and several not so rare kits by Revell, Renwal, Heller, Aurora, and Lindberg. I estimate that 40-50 models will be going, most of them ships. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Sean Obrien Subject: Pearl Harbor-Get A Life-IT'S ONLY A MOVIE I agree, they're only movies. Take "U-571." My dad served 3 years in subs during the big one, the last 6 months on an O-boat training new crews. These boats were basically pre WW1 designs, years older than the S-boats. He doesn't recall the O-8 ever leaking like they have the S/U boat doing while diving, although it did moan and groan. There were a few other things he felt weren't accurate, but he was still able to enjoy the movie no matter how farfetched. His biggest beef with Navy movies isn't the authenticness of the ships but how unauthentic officer/crew relations are portrayed. He just loves seeing real ships rather than fakey models. I wonder if tank modelers ever discuss things like Chafee and Patton tanks portraying Shermans and TigerII's in "THE BATTLE OF THE BULGE." But of course there wasn't the internet back then. They were probably just happy to see a tanker movie using all those vehicles. Sean O'B -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Clifford Franklin Subject: French Destroyers Sorry if I didn't make it clear, but my lists were for March 1939 onwards. During that time, there was not a lot of movement between flotillas, but what I knew about I tried to include in the list. The data I have on the contre-torpilleurs I am certain of, as it comes from a couple of respected French authors. The only addition I must make would be Le Terrible, which was in the 6th Flotilla for a while in 1940, but I don't know what her number was (possibly X63?). The data for the Torpilleurs is less well documented, although that for the Le Hardi class and Melpomene class seem reliable enough. For the rest, we'll just have to wait for the new book! If anyone is interested in the allocations and numbers pre-war, I recomend you try and get hold of an article on the 2770tonnes class that appeared in "Warship International" in 1981. This lists all permutations and allocations of that large class of contre-torpilleurs, whose numbers changed frequently as each new destroyer was commissioned. The flotillas had stabilised somewhat when the new system was introduced in March, 1939, when the French Admiralty allocated the numbers and funnel band colours, instead of the individual fleet commands. Paul Jacobs wrote: >> For example, I have photos with "T-12" in white/black lettering labeled >MARS, but one in a Japanese publication that has "T-71" in red/black also >labeled MARS. Is the photo misnamed? I don't know. << I would suspect the T71/Mars label as being incorrect. According to my information, the 7th DT remained intact through to its demise in November 1942, with Tramontane being the leader (T71). If anyone knows differently, I would love to know. cheers Cliff Franklin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: "Jana & Pavel" Subject: Re: H.M.S. Devonshire Funnel Dear Felix, Contact me off line with your details, and I will post a funnel half to you. What I will need is the part number for the 1/600 Airfix kit. I would have offered to scan and e-mail the plans, but have a problem at the moment doing this. Regards Pavel Regina, Saskatchewan Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: RhinoBones@aol.com Subject: Cutthroat Large Scale Vehicle (LSV) The following article appeared in today's newswire. This goes to show that if you want to make modeling (ship modeling that is) a career, apply at General Dynamics and build some really big models. If anyone happens to know of a site which has a picture of the Kokanee LSV 1, please post it so we can all see what one of these models looks like. Regards, RhinoBones >> Thursday, November 30, 2000 US Navy christens Cutthroat submarine Source: JANE'S DEFENSE WEEKLY Washington DC, JANE'S DEFENSE WEEKLY via NewsEdge Corporation : The US Navy christened the world's largest autonomous submarine, the Cutthroat Large Scale Vehicle (LSV) 2, at the Naval Surface Warfare Center's Acoustic Research Detachment in Bayview, Idaho, on 15 November. Built by General Dynamics and Newport News Shipbuilding, the Cutthroat, 33.5m in length and 3m in diameter, is a model of the USS Virginia (SSN 774), now under development to be the first in a new class of attack submarines. It will be used to test advanced submarine technologies, such as new sail designs and propulsor assemblies, for integration into future Virginia-class boats. The LSV 2 builds on the KOKANEE LSV 1, an earlier model developed to test technologies for the Seawolf-class of attack submarines. The Cutthroat is more capable of reconfiguration and data collection, according to the navy, offering an advanced guidance and navigation control system and onboard data collection. << -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: NEVENGER@aol.com Subject: ICM and missing parts I just wanted to say that I found out the other day that I was missing the decals for my Konig kit and thus I sent an e-mail to ICM about it. They really can though. The next day I had an e-mail about how sorry they were and that they would send the missing decals right away. Well they did just that and now I have them. Thus I was very pleased about there responsiveness. Now if they would only answer my wish for an Essex class carrier I would be in 7th heaven. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: sanders_talmadge_fc1 Subject: Re: Gold anchors It is a navy wide practice to "show off" a gold anchor for retention. It is getting harder to compete? with the outside job market. A gold anchor is a sign of a desirable ship to prospective crew members because if they are retaining people on board, they usually have a higher morale. My ship has a gray anchor : ( VR FC1(sw) Sanders -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: "Dan Bostwick" Subject: Looking for good DDG-51 kit I am looking for a kit of a DDG-51 Arleigh Burke class destroyer. To be most accurate, I would like one of the Flight IIA ships (DDG-79 and higher), but the models don't seem to exist. I'm not really sure of the scale I am after, but am looking something around fifteen inches (you know, desk size!). I guess the math puts that at 1:400 scale. Anyway, I am new to ship modeling, but have done many aircraft in the past. Anyone have any recomendations on a kit I should choose? Any feel for how difficult the Flight-IIA conversion might be? Dan New York, U.S.A -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Academy U-Boat >> I've seen an Academy 1/150? U-boat kit to build it static or motor-driven. Tom, and the others sub experts, what's about this kit? << Hi Cataldo Haven't seen it first hand, but someone in the SubCommittee bought it and was not very satisfied. IIRC, it lacked some detail and was more toylike. If you are interested in a display model, I would recommend the Nichimo Type IX kits in styrene as very good. If you want to get into R/C subs, please visit the SubCommittee site (http://www.SubCommittee.com) for more information on starter kits. Tom -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: "wblad" Subject: WWI Sub Chasers According to the 1942 edition of Fahey's, there were 12 WWI SCs and 8 Eagle boats (PE) still on the navy register at the start of WW2. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: "wblad" Subject: French Destroyers I can't remember where I read it, but I was under the impression that French Atlantic based ships had white/black numbers and Med based ships had red/black numbers. Can anyone confirm of refute this? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: Mackenzie Gregory Subject: Re: Foxer or CAT >> In September 0f 1943, U-Boats introduced new tactics, and a new weapon. << An accoustic Torpedo designed to home on the noise emanating from the Escorting ship's propellors. Down the throat shots from an attacking U-Boat were encountered, the first victim was the sloop Londonderry, a huge explosion occured and her stern just collapsed. Within two weeks of this first GNAT attack, counter measures became available, code named FOXER, it was a noise maker towed astern of an Escort, to attract and detonate the homing Torpedo. It was not able to be used above 15 knots, and, it did interfere with ASDIC operations. The Canadians improved on FOXER, producing a system known as CAT, it made a screeching noise, not unlike a circular saw noise. Post war, from German Naval records, 464 GNATS were fired, to give 77 hits, only a 16.6 % success rate, but these hits did include 8 whilst FOXER was streamed. Mackenzie Gregory -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: "wblad" Subject: Caine Mutiny Herman Wouk, the author of "The Caine Mutiny," served as an officer aboard the four-piper USS KANE (DD-235/APD-18) in WWII. The novel is a fictionalized account of his service on the KANE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32) From: stillmo@mb.sympatico.ca Subject: Naval Vessel Register Holy Cats, Naval Vessel Register, what a huge and informative listing....thanks for the tips!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33) From: stillmo@mb.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Fate of USS CABOT Doesn't this stink and remind us all of ENTERPRISE CV6 fiasco? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34) From: stillmo@mb.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Gearing Class DDs Are you speaking of WWII , Korean War, or the FRAM eras??? Lots of ground to cover there and there are plenty of photos and books out there. To start out, theres the Norman Friedman, Arnold S Lott, anr Robert Sumrall book on the USS JOSEPH P. KENNEDY, 32 pages, billboard format with color center spread, among others. chock full of good photos. RDB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Ralph Nardone" Subject: IPMS Flight 19 auction & holiday party Okay, for the club meetings, IPMS/Flight 19 (Ft. Lauderdale, FLwill be holding their Annual (and semi-world infamous) Holiday Party and Kit Auction on 14 December 2000 at 19:30 hrs. This is usually quite the event, where you can get rid of models that you'll never build and buy more models that you'll never build! Bring some models to auction, and bring cash, because IPMS/Flight 19 doesn't take American Express (or Visa, for that matter!). If you are interested, e-mail me privately (r.nardone@mindspring.com) and I'll get you directions to the meeting. As it stands now, most of our members are air***** builders (with a few exceptions), but those of us who do build ship models could use some company. Hope you can stop in if you are in the area..... Ralph Nardone President, General, Doctor, and Dictator-for-life, Retired IPMS (USA)/Flight 19 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Ken Durling Subject: Re: December IPMS Hornet/SMML? >> I think I'll be in Alameda that evening at an office party - and I'd desperately like to escape. So I'd like confirmation that there will be an IPMS Hornet/SMML meeting on the Hornet on December 8th - and if so, can I come by? << Ned - The IPMS/USS Hornet/SMML meetings are the first Friday of the month, which is Dec 1st, sorry to say. On the 8th there is an IPMS meeting in Fremont that is excellent, if you're interested. SMML'ers - the 1st Annual HornetCon is a go, at the same time as the SMMLcon on the weekend of April 22nd. I'm sure Duane and Sami have been keeping you updated. I will post a formal announcement here soon! And hope to be a more frequent visitor, too. All the best Ken Durling IPMS/USS Hornet, Pres. RC9 PPSEL Just Plane Crazy http://home.earthlink.net/~kdurling -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: dlfowler@apple.com Subject: Hornet SMML Con 2001 Ahoy SMMLies, As we start looking to the new year things are moving quickly for the SMML Con 2001 aboard the Hornet. Very soon we will have information posted on the SMML page. The Tentative schedule is: Friday, April 20 Morning: Meet at the Hornet, travel to San Francisco for tours of the USS Pampinito, SS Jeremia O'Brien, Hyde Street Pier National Maritime Museum, and the San Francisco Maritime Museum. These are all within walking distance of each other along the Fisherman's Wharf. Evening: Dinner at Union Square, San Francisco Saturday, April 21 SMML conference and seminars Banquet in the evening Sunday, April 22 IPMS contest and show Tours of the USS Hornet Wrap up A list of conference speakers will be published as it becomes finalized. Since this event will be in conjunction with an IPMS event, vendors will be welcome and encouraged to take part. SMML participants are also encouraged to bring models to display and enter. IPMS membership, although encouraged, is not necessary. Please note that the field trip for Friday is not yet finalized and we are actively seeking suggestions. If anyone has an alternate or additional suggestion, please email me or Sami Arim. One idea put forward was to include a buss tour of some of the other sights in San Francisco on Friday morning. Please let us know your preference on this or any other ideas. The costs for all this will be (I know that this is what you have all been waiting for!) Pre-registration (up to March 31): $50 Registration (after April 1): $55 Field Trip: TBD Friday dinner: $20 IPMS Contest: First model entry free, additional entries $1 A list of local accommodations will also be posted. I personally hope to see as many of you there as possible. The room is considerably larger than what was available on the Salem and I'd like to try to fill it! Best regards, Duane Fowler Contact: Duane Fowler, dlfowler@uscg.net Sami Arim, sami@Akol-Yoshii.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: maeisen@erols.com Subject: Washington DC area SMMLcon Folks: The Washington DC area SMMLcon will be held on Sunday, December 10, from 1-3 pm, at Nostalgic Plastic, a hobby shop in Silver Spring, Maryland. The response to my efforts to organize a Washington DC area SMMLcon exceeded expectations: thus far about 15 people have RSVP'd! Because my house is too small to comfortably accomodate a group this large, I searched for alternative venues. Chris Mikesh, who is the proprietor of a local hobby shop, Nostalgic Plastic, very kindly agreed to host this event. We will be meeting at Nostalgic Plastic Automotive, which is an annex located two doors down from the main store, and which has a lot of space which is usually used for model-building demos and workshops. I hope that everyone will bring one or two built-up ship models (or at least one or two under construction) and maybe some books or publications that they have found to be helpful or interesting, for "show and tell." Soft drinks and cookies will be served. Nostalgic Plastic is located at 2425 Linden Lane, Silver Spring, Maryland. It is about 5 minutes from the DC beltway. To get there, take the DC Beltway (I-495) to Silver Spring, and exit at Georgia Avenue SOUTH. Merge onto Georgia Avenue, continue south for less than a minute, then turn right at the second light onto Seminary Road. Go down Seminary Road a minute or so, and continue straight onto Linden Lane when Seminary Road veers off to the left at the elementary school. Continue down Linden Lane a minute or so until you get to the strip mall on the right, and pull into the parking lot there. Nostalgic Plastic is located at 2425 Linden Lane, and Nostalgic Plastic Automotive, where we will be meeting, is located at 2417 Linden Lane. If you find yourself going over an overpass and at the Walter Reade Army Medical Clinic Annex, you've gone too far by a few hundred feet. If you get lost, you can call the store at (301) 565-0565, and they should be able to help you with directions. I look forward to seeing all you SMMLies on December 10! If anybody has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me via e-mail. Yours truly, Michael Eisenstadt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Bob Pearson" Subject: December Internet Modeler Greetings all, The December Internet Modeler is now online, For ship content we have a build of the WEM Dido class cruiser, plus inboxes of the Modelkrak Hatsuse and L'Arsenal 1/400 Flower Class in its ultimate guise. There is also a look at some of the recent PE sets by Tom's Modelworks. There is also the usual non-ship stuff, but I'll leave that to you to find. Regards, Bob Pearson Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: hjbosma Subject: Sale Blue Water Navy Hi Friends, As a collector of 1:700 and 1:350 shipmodels there comes a moment that one realize that one has to become at least 300 years old to finish even the last model in stock. So therefore I decided to offer something of my vast collection for sale. Blue Water Navy DD I "Bainbridge" $50.-- " " CA 26 "Northampton" $170.-- " " DDG 56 "John Mc Cain" $130.-- " " DD 445 "Fletcher" $80.-- " " DD 710 "Gearing" $90.-- If you are interested please mail me. Prices are inclusive Post and Packing anywhere in the world. With friendly greetings Hans Bosma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Bill Gruner Subject: USS HOGA by Corsair Armada We will have the new Corsair Armada US Navy tug HOGA (WW 2), excellent 1/700 resin kit, by early next week. Price will be $7.50 + $3.50 domestic shipping. (For Foreign Airpost, ask for quote.) Corsair's WASP CV-7 is still on schedule, hopefully we will be getting them in Jan.-Feb. Thanks, Bill Gruner Pacific Front Hobbies http://www.pacificfront.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Timothy Dike Subject: December Reviews on ModelWarships.com 12-01-00 New Reviews for December include Tamiya's New 1/700 Scale USS Indianapolis Heavy Cruiser Matchbox 1/700 USS Indianapolis Heavy Cruiser Tamiya 1/700 Scale Bogue Class Escort Carrier Classic Warships 1/700 Scale USS Portland resin kit White Ensign Models 1/350 scale SMS Konig Photo etch set Tom's Modelworks 1/700 Escort Carrier Photo etch set Loose Canon 1/700 scale Dual 5"-38 Turrets in resin Squadron Signal Publications Escort Carriers in Action Warships Perspectives #3 Flower Class Corvettes I will add the features and gallery additions this weekend. Regards, Timothy Dike Webmaster and Editor ModelWarships.com http://www.modelwarships.com/index1.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume