Subject: SMML VOL 1083 Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 18:37:48 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Plans? 2: Re: Lindbergh PT-109 1/32??? 3:Lindberg 1/32 Elco Pfui! 4: Re: IPMS Journal 5: Re: S- E Boats 6: Re: S Boats and E Boats 7: Neptuns 8: Re: Plan source 9: Re: SS United States 10: Re: Plans for Ships 11: Santa Clause's reply 12: Re: Journal problems 13: Re: triva answer 14: Re: History/Movies 15: Re: Plans? 16: Re: E-Boats 17: Re: Lindbergh PT-109 1/32??? 18: Re: Pearl Harbor Movie, Ken Goldman and Victory Drives 19: Re: Looking for good DDG-51 kit 20: Sub Chasers 21: Glencoe kit for WW1 Sub Chasers 22: Re: PHM 23: Re: "E-Boats" and "Plans?" 24: Re: Plans? 25: DDG 81 26: Re: Trivia 27: War Bonds in Peace? 28: Furious Rights? Not! 29: Re: the strawberries 30: "references" and "there is no Hollywood" 31: E-Memorial December 2000 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: Nostalgic Plastic Store - SMML reunion in Wash.D.C. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: WHITE ENSIGN MODELS WEBPAGE UPDATE/and 1/350 CF ADAMS CLASS NEWS 2: W R PRESS and CAMOUFLAGE VOL TWO 3: Deans Marine 1/96 Cruiser Kit 4 Sale 4: Loose Cannon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: ALROSS2@aol.com Subject: Re: Plans? >> I like to build models from scratch but I'm having trouble finding plans for ships. I would be very thankful if anyone could tell me a good place to find plans for ships. I'm not picky, any kind of ship would be great. << For WWII and later USN warships - The Floating Drydock - www.floatingdrydock.com For 20th century US merchant vessels - Ship Plans Maritime Collections NMAH-5010/MRC 628 Smithsonian Instititution Washington, DC 20560 The Smithsonian also has plans for 17th-20th century sailing warships and commercial vessels, along with US Civil War vessels. Al Ross -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: ALROSS2@aol.com Subject: Re: Lindbergh PT-109 1/32??? >> Is this Lindbergh 1/32nd Elco PT kit any good? << If by "good" you mean accurate, no. If you want an accurate 1/32 scale 80' ELCO PT, you need to get a good set of plans and scratch-build it. MicroGlass (MicroGee@aol.com) has a nice fiberglass hull in that scale. The old (40 years or so) Revell 1/72 scale kit is far more accurate, despite its age. If you like to work in wood, BlueJacket's 1/48 scale 80' ELCO PT is a good choice. If you want something big, take a look at Bob Lanthier's 1/10 scale kit. Al Ross -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: Lindberg 1/32 Elco Pfui! >> Is this Lindbergh 1/32nd Elco PT kit any good? What's needed to make it good << A set of plans and photos, a razor saw, a lot of sheet styrene and about 1 pound of epoxy putty. The hull is way off from the scale plans in just about every dimension, the deck has no camber, the details like the guns and tubes just stink. It is in the same league as the Academy motorized U-boats. Plus the motor and gear box that comes in the kit is noisy and weak, so it makes a pathetic working model, unless you are willing to replace the running gear. In that case, I suspect it would end up over weight, as all that plastic plus the batteries will be heavy. If that still doesn't turn you off, this model made a cameo appearance in Pee Wee Herman's Big Adventure, (the bathtub scene). Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Nandankek@aol.com Subject: Re: IPMS Journal Regarding the IPMS Journal problem. This has been going on for years. I finally gave up. Too bad to hear that it is still happening. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "denis keegan" Subject: Re: S- E Boats E for Enemy is the best explanation I have seen. I believe Cmdr. Hitchens, the top RN MGB captain christened them that way, but I stand to be corrected. Denis K -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "J. London" Subject: Re: S Boats and E Boats E boat was a term used in the Royal Navy for S boat and meaning enemy boat. Michael London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "Malcolm N. Waite" Subject: Neptuns Hi Neptun 1/1250th arrive ready assembled unless the Post Office has given them a hard time! They also arrive in a basic colour usually overall grey colour with details picked out, ie boats funnels etc. Nobody buy's them for the paint job just the wonderful detail Malcolm Waite Happy owner of 300 plus of the little rascals! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "J. London" Subject: Re: Plan source For scratchbuilding an excellent plan source is Reading Model Engineers, c/o Edward H. Wiswesser, 407 North 25th Street, Reading PA 19606. Sorry but I don't know if he has e-mail. His drawings are reasonably priced and mostly 32 ft to the inch but he does have other scales. If you write throw in a couple of stamps for postage and he will probably send you a catalog. Michael London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Scott & Laurie Reigel" Subject: Re: SS United States >> I have sold my 1/72nd scale model of the HMS HOOD and now I am looking for an new form of brow beating and have settled on the S.S. United States of course she will be modeled in 1/72nd scale which will come out to just short of 14 feet long 16 inches wide and 29 inches tall but have run into a slight problem I cant seem to locate any plans or drawings of her can any of you guys or gals assist me in my insanity << There are over 60 sheets of SS United States plans available from the Smithsonian Institution: http://americanhistory.si.edu/csr/shipplan.htm A print out of the catalog is listed on the Debris Field at: http://members.nbci.com/debrisfield/scratch/Deckplans/unitedstates/ustates.htm Click the link a few times if you have a trouble. The nbci server seems to be unreliable. Hope this helps Scott Reigel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: AandMBlevins@gateway.net Subject: Re: Plans for Ships That's easy. Go to: www.taubman'sonline.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Santa Clause's reply >> All I want for Christmas is a 1/350 "New Mexico" Please make sure it has self adhesive railing and preformed FC & FD Radar antennae. << Sorry little boy, but there are some things even Santa can't provide!!! Self adhesive railing! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Oh boy! HA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! You modelers just kill me!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I wrote Wiper he laughed almost as much as me!!! "Ahem", Santa Clause -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Journal problems I got mine yesterday and it was in good shape. Rusty White Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ We now accept Visa & MasterCard world wide via Pay Pal "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: triva answer See, can't fool this bunch. Churchill is indeed correct. Rusty White Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ We now accept Visa & MasterCard world wide via Pay Pal "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: History/Movies I agree with your dad, the most glaring error I see in ALL war movies, including the wonderful Saving Pvt Ryan, is the phoney relationship between officers and enlisted men. It seems that todays writers and actors cannot understand the times they are trying to portray, it was a whole different mind-set. I think that anyone who was in military service more than say 30 years ago will agree with me. Cheers, Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: MetroLimo@aol.com Subject: Re: Plans? >> I like to build models from scratch but I'm having trouble finding plans for ships. I would be very thankful if anyone could tell me a good place to find plans for ships. I'm not picky, any kind of ship would be great. << Try Taubman plans: His web address is: http://www.taubmansonline.com/ His mailing address is: Taubman Plans Service International 11 College Drive, Box 4G, Jersey City, NJ 07305 He probably carries hundreds of plans for all kinds of ships and boats. Barry Fair Lawn, NJ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: PT191@aol.com Subject: Re: E-Boats S-Boats were called E-Boats by the RN - E boats stood for Enemy boats. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: PT191@aol.com Subject: Re: Lindbergh PT-109 1/32??? The LINDBERG PT-109 is 1:32 scale. What is needed to make it good? Easy. Throw it out and either buy a Dumas kit or just scratch build a model. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: GKingzett@aol.com Subject: Re: Pearl Harbor Movie, Ken Goldman and Victory Drives In many respects, isn't a bad war movie better than no war movie at all. And if it gives any of us an opportunity to give some facts to just one extra person, aren't we all better off? Ken Goldman wrote about the The Air Museum in Chino California. I wonder if he knows the whereabouts of the great warship modeler Lawrence Sowinski. Larry had been the curator at the Intrepid Museum in NY City. By the time I became aware of that and tried to see him, he had left the Intrepid. I understood he was managing a very successful air museum in California. I would like any information as to how to reach him. Larry scratchbuilds warships in wood at 1:520 scale; he could show us a lot about technique. A large sample of his work is to be found in Bowen's "Scale Model Warships", among others. Regarding Victory Drives. I suspect that they are to pay for accumulated war debt. All national wars are fought with borrowed money. The parade is over, the band goes home but the debt goes on and on. Gary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: "Dan Bostwick" Subject: Re: Looking for good DDG-51 kit Wow, a unanimous vote for Blue Water Navy's kit. I looked at the web page, and am definately impressed with the model - It is exactly what I would love to have. Unfortuantely, I am a little leary about sinking $200 on my first naval project. Any recomendations on a cheaper (plastic, I assume) kit? Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Sub Chasers Responding to D.H.Jones' comments about books for the WW1 Sub Chasers, I have read (but do not own, yet) the Mulholland book. I do believe the full title should be referenced as "The Splinter Fleet at the Otranto Barrage". Previously, referring to it as simply "The Splinter Fleet' was indeed sufficient, but a new book has been released, entitled "Splinter Fleet", by an ex-skipper of a WW2 boat. His name is Theodore T. Treadwell, the publisher is Naval Institute Press, and it was released in November of 2000. It is about the WW2 version. I mention this not to be critical, but For Your Information, to help avoid possible confusion when referencing either book. Does anyone know of any activity in creating a plastic kit of the WW2 Sub Chasers? Franklyn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Fkbrown90@aol.com Subject: Glencoe kit for WW1 Sub Chasers In a recent issue an SMML subscriber commented that he is interested in procuring a Glencoe kit for the WW1 Sub Chasers, on which his grandfather served. Although this information is primarily for him, it applies to others interested in this kit as well. My latest grape-vine gleanings hint that Glencoe will re-re-re-release (No, I don't have a speech impediment! The original was released by ITC, then went to Ringo, and thence to Glencoe.) This would be Glencoe's second release of this kit, scheduled for sometime in 2001. The scale is (was) 3/16"=1' (1/64). But check the new kit carefully, as the previous releases had the identification number, AV SC96, on the bows molded into the hull, as raised characters. Literally hundreds of these boats were commissioned (they were the smallest commissioned ship in the Navy at that time), and I have not seen any photos of the prefix AV on any of them. It appears to be a post-war assignment of the original SC96 (of which I do indeed have a photo reference) as an auxiliary to an aircraft tender (mother ship) whose prefix was correctly AV. If you want to apply the number of your grandad's vessel, you will have to carefully grind or sand off the molded-in characters on the bows. If you are lucky, Glencoe MIGHT have removed them for this release (but don't count on it). If things work out for you, and you get to the point of putting the correct (for you) numbers on the bows, an outfit called "Woodland Scenics",Box 98, Linn Creek, Missouri, 65602 has a decal, their part no. MG745 that would be correct for your model. The model I am working on is a "scratch model", of a different scale, and these decals are too small to be correct, but they should be perfect for you. These decals also go by the name of "Model Graphics", and may be found in model railroad supply stores primarily, although other model stores may either carry them, or order them for you. Best wishes! Franklyn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: "Devin J. Poore" Subject: Re: PHM >> All you ship type guys should know that PHM stands for Patrol craft, Hydrofoil, Missile, NOT Pearl harbor << THANK YOU Jim, I was wondering if anyone else was having that same acronym confusion I was suffering. Also looking forward to one of those kits. Back when I was starting out as a young Fire Control man, I would have given my left arm to get on a hydrofoil; got sucked into the big world of AEGIS instead. Oh well... Devin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: "E-Boats" and "Plans?" >> By the way: Why in hell are the German S-Boote called E boats?? << As many times as I've seen this discussed, no one seems to have a definitive answer. I CAN tell you, however, that it is not some recent aberration. The term "E-boat" was in common usage during WW2, as evidenced by its use in a juvenile novel published about 1941 or 1942 that was the first WW2 book that I ever read: "Dave Dawson In The RAF." Some have postulated that it derived from "Enemy Boat", but that seems as bit far-fetched to me...even from the Brits! (To CC: sorry 'bout that, Sweetie.) ;^)) >> I like to build models from scratch but I'm having trouble finding plans for ships. I would be very thankful if anyone could tell me a good place to find plans for ships. I'm not picky, any kind of ship would be great. << There are any number of sources for ship plans. You could start with White Ensign Models (http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/) or The Floating Drydock (http://www.floatingdrydock.com/), both of whom carry a good selection of plans for various ships and list them on their websites. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys http://www.shipcamouflage.com "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off." - Anonymous -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: SolidStump@aol.com Subject: Re: Plans? >> I like to build models from scratch but I'm having trouble finding plans for ships. I would be very thankful if anyone could tell me a good place to find plans for ships. I'm not picky, any kind of ship would be great. << There should be no trouble...... You know where the Warship Home site is on the internet????? Links are available to Floating Drydock for example. They have more plans for ships than you could build in a lifetime. The ones by Tom W. are especially complete. Then there is White Ensign. They have many fine plans for royal Navy ships. Taubman Plans has all kinds of ships. Warships, Ocean Liners, Freighters, and Sailing ships from all nations over many historical periods. The only trouble I can imagine you could have with finding plans is if you expect construction plans for a model ship like for model airplanes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: DDG 81 >> USS Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (oh, OK, the USS Winston Churchill ...), one of the new breed of destroyers << Apparently DDG 81 went through a couple of minor name changes before they settled on "USS Winston S. Churchill". If anybody wants an official invitation to the commissioning in Norfolk on 10 MAR 2001, please contact me off-list. The CO is an old shipmate who owes me numerous favors, but bear in mind we're not promising any free stuff or a chance to take the helm. : ) Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: Craig R Bennett Subject: Re: Trivia Hi There are other ships named for hoary citizens. Such as the USS Harold Holt FF-1074. There was also the USS Lafayette SSBN-616, USS Tecumesh SSBN-628,USS Von Steubon SSBN-632,USS Simon Bolivar SSBN-641, and the USS Kamehameha SSBN-642. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: Ned Barnett Subject: War Bonds in Peace? War bond drives (the Victory Bonds in 1919) are designed to help pay down the wartime debt. We now call what were WW-II War Bonds "U.S. Savings Bonds" ... and we're still paying down the WW-II debt. Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Furious Rights? Not! Phil wrote ... >> replacement of a Polish volunteer squadron in the Battle of Britain sequence with a fictional "Eagle" squadron (they were formed later). This will annoy, at least, two Countries greatly, but it will be interesting to see whether it is even noticed in the USA. "We" may be indignant, others will have the right to be bloody furious. << Phil, I'm sorry, but you have no rights. This is a work of FICTION. That means it isn't true. It's a made-up story, start-to-finish. Which gives you no right to be furious (bloody or otherwise) that this made-up story doesn't jibe with what you believe to be history. "Believe to be history?" you ask incredulously. "History is ... well, it's history. Facts. Proven stuff." you might sputter. If you believe that, go check out a history textbook from Japan (it will help if you read Japanese), especially one published between 1945 and 1985. History? They remember the war quite differently than we (the victors) do. Ditto for history texts published in the late, unlamented Soviet Union. History is what you remember if you lived it - or what you read and believed if you didn't live it. History is subject to revision, distortion, mis-remembering, posturing (i.e., any favorable bio of Monty) and human fallibility. And that is from books that claim to be true facts - history. This movie makes no such claims - it is an up-front lie - a work of fiction - a collection of made-up words filmed in order to make money by entertaining the paying public. Why do you feel you have the right to be furious at a made-up work of fiction? Maybe if Stephen Ambrose wrote about the Eagle Squadron in the Battle of Britain - maybe you'd have a right to be bloody furious (unless he's found something new that would prove his thesis). But this is a work of F-I-C-T-I-O-N ... As an aside (that's nonetheless relevant), I am now in the process of reading (and I'm counting them right now) 35 books of history (no fiction) on Guadalcanal as part of the research I'm doing in order to write a fictional novel (a made-up story) about a Marine pilot on Guadalcanal - a man who is mistakenly given the Medal of Honor in 2000 for the collective heroics of his many comrades (as well as him). He will be that "every-man" who witnesses or participates in all the key elements of the real battle - but he will be fictitious, as will his life story. I intend to do my level best to make the story historically accurate - but if I put him in the co-pilot's seat for Jack Cram's incredibly heroic PBY torpedo attack on a Japanese invasion fleet (in reality, nobody ever flew co-pilot on that plane except General Geiger), are you going to be "bloody furious" that I wanted my narrator to make that heroism come to life? I hope not. Now, to make this a modeling post, two items: 1. Think of the diorama potential of putting the Arizona and a Spruance in the same harbor setting ... it's really kinda neat! 2. Beyond reading 35 books, I'm modeling everything I can that flew, clanked or sailed at Guadalcanal, to get a better feel of what fought there. Early Stuart tanks and Wildcats, Gun Motor Carriages and Fletcher DDs ... the Big E and a Higgins boat. All for a novel, to get the background for my make-believe story right. So don't be furious at fiction. Be furious at historians who screw up, sure - but if they say on the door that it's all make-believe, take them at their word. Ned the Fiction Writer/Historian/Modeler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: MGross1352@aol.com Subject: Re: the strawberries That's where Queeg had them, with the strawberries. He proved it with geometric certainty. That is the best part of the movie (which can't hold a candle to the book). When Bogart pulls out the steel balls and goes into the strawberries I am mesmerized! From Mark Grossman in East Brunswick, New Jersey; where they spray our strawberries with pesticide, where we still don't want any cheesey poofs, or vegamite and/or marmite for that matter and where the lumber cartel is infiltrating everywhere. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: Fred Kennamer Subject: "references" and "there is no Hollywood" Greetings, Many questions have popped up on a regular basis that can be solved pretty easily, so here are a few handy references. (You folks on the site have been very helpful.) 1) www.imdb.com (Internet Movie Database) Here you can look up the title of a movie, the name of an actor, writer, director, crewmember and other related information related to feature films. If you're trying to remember "what was the movie that that guy who was in THE LONGEST DAY was in?", well, you can call up "The Longest Day", look at the cast list, hopefully notice the name of the actor, and then look up the actor and see what else he was in. It's a very handy source, and sometimes can solve long unanswered questions and make connections. I use it basically every day, both personally and professionally. 2) www.AcronymFinder.com (a site where you can decipher an acronym) Whether by extreme familiarity with their subject or snotty elitism, many people bandy about acronyms in their posts here that are totally perplexing. What the hell is a FRAM anyway? I didn't know, since my interest in ships ends somewhere around 1945, but looking it up, I learned that it is the "Fleet Rehabilitation and Modernization" program. One nice thing about this site is that they also seem to be aces when it comes to military, and especially naval, terms. 3) Ask Jeeves (www.aj.com) is my favorite general search engine. Ask a question in plain english and it attempts to answer it. More importantly, it gives hits on other search engines and can almost always lead to an answer. I use it virtually every day. 4) The National Maritime Museum (UK) The best place to order plans for most ships. THERE IS NO HOLLYWOOD! Yes, it's true: there is no Hollywood. Both in a literal sense and metaphorical one, there is no Hollywood. Hollywood is a district of the City of Los Angeles; it has unofficial boundaries is further confused by other districts within those. I live in L.A., but some signs say this is "Little Armenia". Others call this "Hollywood", and a local movement wants this to be "East Hollywood". The only studio in Hollywood is Paramount. Warner and Disney are in Burbank, Sony/Columbia are in Culver City on the old MGM lot. (Yep, all those old MGM pictures that ended the credits with "Made in Hollywood USA" were wrong.) The new MGM is in Santa Monica. Universal is in Universal City, which is a city all of its own. Carl Laemmle had it right: if you want an empire, at least make it a municipality of its own. To me, this is a beautiful metaphor for the business too. There is no centralized show business, any more than there is a Hollywood. To say--as has been said on this list many times--that "Hollywood does this" or "Hollywood does that" is to intimate a vast conspiracy or control of the media. The late great Bette Davis said (I paraphrase out of laziness) that the difference between the old business and the new is that "I knew the moguls, they were sons-of-bitches, but they loved movies. Now the business is run by Lawyers and Accountants". There's a lot of truth there. Art is, at best, a byproduct of show business. History is not commercial, at least by the general judgement in the business. That any historical pictures get made in this bottom line environment is heartening; to expect them to be perfectly accurate is a delusion. No depiction of actual events can be perfectly accurate. Like life, it's to what degree of grey--or gray--area with which one is comfortable. The solemnity with which one should approach depiction of the past should not be taken lightly. Know the source and honor the participants. Disney has convinced many people to work for deferred salaries and lower rates for "Pearl Harbor". This is in the context of a hugely succesful organization, where executives make outrageous salaries. My working experiences with them have been mixed, and more or less okay, but there's a reason why the employees themselves coined the phrase "Mouchwitz and Duckau". Hopefully this picture won't be a total bowdlerization of history. Knowing the work of those rendering it doesn't bring much hope. It does bear mentioning that any history movie helps, if not totally wrong. JFK was great filmmaking, but partisan historical raving. (Johnson was a ham-handed machine politician, but I'd be shocked to think he orchestrated Kennedy's death. He was also one of the greatest civil-and human-rights achievers to ever hold the office.) When depiction of history suckers people into thinking that the fiction is the truth, then a great disservice has been done. U-571 was lots of fun. That tugboat they called a destroyer was laughable, as was the concept that any German destroyer at any point of the war wouldn't be instantly dispatched if outside of the Baltic or immediate North Sea. Harvey Keitel's claim of having been depth-charged off Murmansk in WW1 needs some 'splainin' too. (Yeah, right, we sent troops to Archangel and Murmansk in 1918, but who would have been dropping those charges?) Har, har, har. But that movie was effective filmmaking to a degree. There are two types of movies: movies that are about something and movies where things happen. Most action pictures fall into the last category. U-571, for all its faults, was about leadership and command. It also had a good sub movie twist at the end and played the dramatic moments pretty well throughout. Fine by me. It broadens the base of interest in this arena, gives a good time, and is easily worth the time and money. Keep a sense of humor, remember that history is written by the victors and above all: when accepting "facts", tag them with the source. Most sources have an ax to grind. Hopefully mine hasn't caused sparks that are too annoying. Oh yeah, next time I'll post about actual ship model building. Thanks all! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: "Bruce" Subject: E-Memorial December 2000 Shane Could you pass this along, some of the baby boomers might enjoy this Information and links thanks, Bruce >> AWARDS The Australian War Memorial has confirmed its status as the nation's leading cultural institution, being named Australia's best major tourist attraction at the annual Australian Tourism Awards ceremony in Canberra, held on 30 November. For more information, see the News Section of the website at http://www.awm.gov.au/news TALKS I Was There Wing Commander Dick Cresswell DFC AM and Flight Lieutenant Bruce "Buster" Brown whose Kittyhawk Polly features in the new Airpower in the Pacific 1941-53 exhibition, will discuss their experiences during the Second World War. Saturday 2 December 2pm Bradbury Aircraft Hall Free. FILM & TALK Tora Tora Tora Join the Memorial's Ben Evans for an anniversary talk on the events of Pearl Harbour followed by a screening of this classic film. Thursday 7 December 6pm. Cost $5 Bookings 02 6243 4518 WORKSHOP Take Flight: A Scale Modelling Workshop Saturday 2, 9, & 16 December 2 - 5pm Let your imagination take flight!! This series of three workshops will cover all you ever wanted to know about building scale military models from basic assembly techniques, through modifying and detailing your kit and finally finishing and displaying your model. Cost: $25 Bookings 02 6243 4518 Robert A Hall: Combat Battalion - the 8th Battalion in Vietnam By the author of Black Diggers and Fighters from the Fringe $29.95 (paperback) (Cat.No.9329) BATTLEFIELD TOURS Limited spaces are still available on the Memorial's 2001 Gallipoli and Western Front Battlefield Tours. Make sure you book your place now. These tours are fully escorted by historians from the Memorial. For more information, including itineraries and a booking form, go to http://www.awm.gov.au/events/tours.htm. For all the latest information on events at the Memorial, contact our Activity Line on 02 6243 4598. << -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: Nostalgic Plastic Store - SMML reunion in Wash.D.C. To whom it may concern: I have done business with this group and I found them to be honest and most helpful. I recommend them highly. I will certainly do business with them again. John Kutina Seattle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "WEM" Subject: WHITE ENSIGN MODELS WEBPAGE UPDATE/and 1/350 CF ADAMS CLASS NEWS Hi Guys, Long time no post! Getting busier by the day in the run-up towards Christmas, so PLEASE get those Christmas orders in as soon as possible! Updates as follows: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/plist1.htm for all Plastic kits, (non-WEM) resin kits, Gold Medal Models etched brass, Paint Chips, Videos, and Books (considerably updated with quite a few new titles). BTW, the new Modelcraft 1/500 ORIANA will be arriving very shortly and we have a special photoetched brass detail set planned for this kit! **IMPORTANT** Note that almost every ARII, Aoshima, Fujimi, and Hasegawa kit is disappearing from our lists... a couple of you who pre-paid will be refunded or credited of course. WEM NS 012 1/350 PT-109 (includes etched brass) is available at only 10 Pounds ($14.50) and has now been given the thumbs-up by Al Ross, who supplied the drawings. BTW, the etched brass is also available separately at 2.50 Pounds per sheet. I think he liked the 1/700 Scale version too! Also updated http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/kits350.htm for our own 1/350 Kits pages... and more 1/350 CF ADAMS news by the way.. the etched brass is cut and ready to be packed http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/350cfadams/350cfadamsbrass.jpg and assuming the decal problem is sorted with the ALPS printer ... (any experts out there re. printing Coreldraw files on an ALPS MD 1000?), we should be mailing these from Tuesday onwards. Peter Hall's well into building his model with photos at the following locations.. guess it'll be ready for the Fleet Air Arm Museum in February, hey, Peter? ;^)) http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/350cfadams/mast1.jpg http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/350cfadams/mast2.jpg http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/350cfadams/mast3.jpg http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/350cfadams/supers.jpg http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/350cfadams/yards.jpg WEM PE 3519 1/350 "ULTIMATE" KGV CLASS BATTLESHIPS is next on the etched brass front and is priced at 27.66 Pounds ($40.00). Two sheets, different thicknesses... artwork (at 10% original size hence loss of detail) can be found at these links http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/fret1.jpg http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/fret2.jpg 6 pages of instructions are ready for this set, which enables you to build, in detail, any of the KGV Class from the Tamiya kits. Queries/Order to me, please at wem@onetel.net.uk or use the online order form at http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/wemorder.htm and John Snyder of Snyder and Short Enterprises will process it (Thanks, Sweetie!) All The Best for the Christmas Season everyone! Caroline Carter White Ensign Models, Gardeners Cottage, Cowarne Court, Ledbury, Herefordshire, HR8 2UF, U.K. P.S. If anyone wants to send John and/or myself Christmas cards (and it's also my 40th birthday on Christmas Day!), our new address is Ellanfield, Risbury, Leominster, Herefordshire, HR6 0NG, U.K. Tel : 01432 820403 Fax: 01432 820830 http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: W R PRESS and CAMOUFLAGE VOL TWO Camouflage Volume Two, Royal Navy 1942, has gone to layout and it is anticipated that publication will be by the end of January next year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: Deans Marine 1/96 Cruiser Kit 4 Sale Hi Decided to sell my Dean's Marine 1/96 kit of HMS Skirmisher, a Scout Class Cruiser of pre WW1 vintage. Nice fiberglass hull, intended for Radio Control. As usual starts at one dollar on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=518173372 I am also selling some of the WARSHIP PROFILE booklets, including one on Civil War Monitors of the USN, I think that is a rare one. Thanks for looking Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "hugh1lottie2" Subject: Loose Cannon Hello, Loose Cannon production Department will not be able to supply any kits for the next three to six months due to an arrangement David Angelo has with Uncle Sam. During this time, research and development will still be in progress while David is overseas. If you have any questions about Loose Cannon and their products, I will attempt to answer any correspondence you may send. Thank you for supporting Loose Cannon products and look forward to several new ships in the next year. Hugh Letterly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume