Subject: SMML VOL 1094 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:11:59 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: U 505 again 2: Re: HMS Prince of Wales First Admiralty Disruptive Colors 3: Re: Russian buzzing Kitty 4: Another Arizona book to come 5: CV64 email 6: Clermont 7: Re: Hokoku Maru 8: Re: Tamiya 1/300 Yukikaze, Yugumo 9: IJN warship camouflage 10: Re: Tamiya 1/300 Yukikaze, Yugumo 11: Opinions about various model kits 12: Heroic Self Sacrifice 13: U.S.S Quincy Update 14: USS Apache ATF-67 15: Lee - Aurora 16: USS Cole arrives for repairs 17: Re: WEM paints 18: Gift Ideas? 19: Re: Derek Wakefields 'what ifs" 20: Re: Stolen Sub Plans!!! 21: Russian Aviation 22: Re: 1/300 SCALE IJN WWII DESTROYER KITS RE-ISSUED. YUKIKAZE AND YUGUMO 23: Re: Clermont ramblings 24: Re: Battleship Row...Derek W 25: Book: Anson's Voyage 26: Re: New Paint Range From WEM and S&S -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: IPMS Ship Column - a calm, rational request for contributions and help -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Buy Online - Miniature Cotton Flags, Naval Signal Sets & Vinyl Lettering 2: CRITICAL MESSAGE, VIRUS ALERT, THIS IS A REAL ONE!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Friedrich Kappes Subject: U 505 again 1. Gröner says that all IXc boats were armed this way: 1 x 10.5 cm (4.1-inch?) L/45 in the deck in front of the conning tower THE GERMAN GUNS WEREN`T RATED IN INCH. 1 x 3.7 cm where? BEHIND THE TOWER, ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE "WINTERGARTEN" 1 x 2.0 cm where? ON THE SECOND FLOOR, ABOVE THE 3,7. In a photo of the U-505 commisioning there was an AA gun in the deck behind the conning tower. Was it one of the above ? Or another one? SHOULD BE AN ADDITIONEL 3,7 OR THE 3,7 MOVED THERE TO BE REPLACED ON IT´ S ORIGINAL POSITION BY A 2,0 QUADRUPLE MOUNTING. Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http://sites.netscape.net/friedkappes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Mark Shannon" Subject: Re: HMS Prince of Wales First Admiralty Disruptive Colors Art Nicholson asked: >> There are color patterns for the PoW in Raven & Roberts' British Battleships of World War II and in the Ensign book on the KGV's; any thoughts on whether those patterns are correct and, if so, what the colors are? I would bet on at least MS1, B6 and MS3, but after that it's guesswork for me. << The two books have slightly different patterns and color placement. The Ensign book gives a full artistic rendering of PoW in the camouflage, while the Battleships book has a schematic representation. The grey-scale representations are also somewhat at variance. It is harde to decipher which way the differences might go based on the photographs in some areas -- the bow area in particular. As to colors, I think the two books are also slightly differing in the list of colors used in the specific pattern. I think it's in terms of the darkest colors and a swaping of the blues. (I am at the office, so I don't have the books in my lap. Mark Shannon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: Chris Crofoot Subject: Re: Russian buzzing Kitty In answer to the interest of the Kitty Hawk getting caught with her pants down... the AP article can be found at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20001208/aponline025327_000.htm The respose time for the warning was 40 minutes... appalling. I think I read during the Cold War response time was 12 minutes. I'm sure the Ruskie got a comendation for that!! They also emailed the picks to the Kittyhawk. The email can be found on public accessible military websites. I'd pay an eye tooth to know what the Russians wrote on the Pic... any sources out there know? Chris Crofoot "Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est" A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands. -----Seneca, 45 AD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Burl Burlingame / Pacific Monograph Subject: Another Arizona book to come BTW, James Delgado of the Vancouver Maritime Center has completed a book called "USS Arizona -- The Last Day" that contains many details of the ship, plus lots of info on preservation efforts. It's being shopped to publishers right now. Burl Burlingame Pacific Monograph, 1124 Kahili Street, Kailua HI 96734 808-263-6087 buzz@aloha.net A historical interpretation company. Visit our web sites at http://www.PacificHistory.com/ and http://www.PacificHistory.net "He's supposed to be dead. This is vexing. I am terribly vexed." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Shirley Sachsen Subject: CV64 email >> How did the Russkies get CV 64 email address I wonder...... << probably just as I did: Yahoo search. here's the website: http://www.navy.mil/homepages/cv64/ and here's the email: pao@constellation.navy.mil s -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "J.Pasquill" Subject: Clermont >> Looking for opinion and/or recommendation on two versions of the ship of Fulton's Folly, the Clermont, and whether these kits can be built into respectable models. The kits in question are the: 1) Lindberg's Clermont from about 1985 2) Ideal Toy Co. Clermont circa 1960 These are probably the same kit released under different brand names and they both look to be about 1:125 to 1:150 in scale. Would like to hear from anyone who has built, or shelved, either of these kits. << They are the same kit. ITC sold them first, then Lindberg, and probably Pyro too. I have the Lindberg version kit in my office at this very moment. Some of the details are crude, some are excellent. Like many plastic kits individual boards are represented by projecting lines instead of indentations. You may want to scribe in boards and sand away the original lines. Also you could easily replace the deck with real wood. The superb 1800s figures that come with the kit are 1/96 scale. I have no idea how it looks in comparison to the original but it is itself based on the ship built for the jubilee of the 75 anniversary of the original trip on the Hudson or something like that as I remember. It is a real model and does not look toy like though gearing could use some more detail. The kit I have is partially built and needs some repair work but if you want one cheap drop me a note. Jim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Pieter Cornelissen Subject: Re: Hokoku Maru >> Does your information come from Dutch sources as it differs from the Royal Navy version in certain details? The RN evaluation officer put a different complexion on it, the Hokoku Maru was dispatched by the Bengal alone and the account of the tanker's second officer was unreliable in the extreme (the report hints that he was racist). The tanker also ran out of ammunition but was unable to hit anything anyway. I've noticed this difference between Dutch and British reports before, particularly in accounts of the Java Sea Battles. << My other source was also Dutch, L.L, van Munching's "de Nederlandse koopvaardijvloot in de Tweede Wereldoorlog" part 2, Amsterdam 1986. If I have time this week I'll check the official history by Bezemer, which is quoted by Zuidhoek. As to the racism of the second officer. Given the fact that he was serving as an merchant officer in the Dutch East Indies, in which racism was the norm in just about everything and which had a quite rigid color based class system, he was probably racist. He is not quoted in Zuidhoek's story though. More on this when I have had the time to look up more sources. Pieter Cornelissen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Henry T Chen" Subject: Re: Tamiya 1/300 Yukikaze, Yugumo I remember building these two over 20 years ago when I was still in high school. I was very impressed with their fit and finishes compared to all the Revell ships (Yes, they were still quite availabe back then) and 1/700 Japanese water lines at that time. The toolings must be close to 30 year old by now. I missed them and I would built them again myself. Henry -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Henry T Chen" Subject: IJN warship camouflage Hello everyone, I'm sure this topic must have been discussed before, but where can I find good references for camouflage patterns on ships such as Taiho, Myoko ect., I have found good references on Zuiho, Zuikaku, but not on others. Thanks in advance. Henry -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Tamiya 1/300 Yukikaze, Yugumo >> Are there any other 1/300 ship kits out there? Or are these three models orphans? << Nichimo made a 1/300 Shinano, and I believe a pair of 1/300 Yamato's(Musashi). The Shinano kit is pretty good, and I have heard the two Yamato's were not so good. I just sold my Shinano, but still have the two IJN DD's. They are not bad. Not much in the way of details, but the shapes are OK. They are worth the money. Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Opinions about various model kits Thru recent discussion about the various opinions on the quality of the HP Models kits, I would like to point out that any model is what you (the customer/builder) make of it. It would be correct to say that the HP Models kits are not the best, and not the worst. They may not have every detail some may want, but on the whole, I think they are good kits. The best way to learn this, is to buy one and judge it for yourself. I constantly hear from modelers who want my "Opinion" on a subject, so I look at these with the thought, "Can I, Steve Wiper, build a good model from this kit? My answer is derived from that question. So I say again, don't just take my opinion, or Dan's, or Falk's, or anyone's, get up enough nerve and buy one and MAKE YOUR OWN OPINIONS! Oh and for God's sake, don't whine about the price, you only live once. Die happy, but most of all, die satisfied! Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Reynaga, Tim@EDD" Subject: Heroic Self Sacrifice It is interesting that most of the "sacrificial attack" stories posted thus far involve the heroism of Allied forces. The "bad guys" too had their moments. One incident that comes to mind is the destruction of the Imperial Japanese DE Matsu in August, 1944-a scant four months after she was completed and less than a month after she first joined the fleet. If I remember correctly, she was damaged by US carrier aircraft while escorting a convoy to Japan. She was still on station as flagship of the escort force when the convoy was taken under fire by three US destroyers. In order to give the convoy a chance to escape, Matsu turned towards the US force and attacked, with inevitable results. She went down with all hands, including the commanding admiral. I don't recall if her sacrifice was enough to enable the convoy to escape, but the incident illustrates how courage and dedication to duty were not unique to either side, or even to veteran crews. Tim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: BRAD BARKER Subject: U.S.S Quincy Update I would like to address what I feel is a detail problem with 1/700 models of the USS Quincy that I have found. There are two companies that produce the ship Loose Cannon Productions and Classic Warships. Both kits are very nicely done with plenty of detail. I personally have built the LCP version for no other reason than it was released first. I would recommend either companies kit to anyone. Anyhow when I received my version of the ship I noticed the armored conning tower did not look right. Researching this I found that pre-war she carried the usual oval shaped tower. As my version of the kit was representing the ship via August 1942 I looked into the correctness of the shape. Most of the pictures I have found do not clear up my question. The 20mm mounts tend to cover the view of the tower. I built my ship with the oval conning tower in place as of May 1942 because I have found a good clear picture showing Quincy at Brooklyn Navy yard (dated 5/42). This picture clearly shows the oval tower in place. I am building my collection of 1/700 ships to mostly cover the time period Dec 7,1941 to Dec 7, 1943 so 5/42 fit into my collection. I personally enjoy the looks of the pre-war and early war ships of the USN. Also this is the time period in which most of the surface to surface engagements took place which I find interesting. So to me it is important to have the right details in place. (I wanted to do a diorama of the battle of Savo so this detail was important.) Like any serious modeler I like correctness in detail. So I kept looking into this question. I was able to talk to a man who served aboard Quincy in 1942 at the time of her loss. I asked him about the tower. His answer was two days before her loss his battle station was in the armored conning tower. He said that the tower had not been removed. He was transferred to the aft conning station just before the battle off of Savo. So in the name of correctness I would like to share this info. Now I want to respectfully point out another error I have found. I have Classic Warships book New Orleans Class Cruisers. This as are all of Classic's books is a 4.0 effort. Great shots on every page with plenty of important information about each ship. On page 47 of the New Orleans Class book it is stated that the signal bridge was enlarged and four 20mm added in place of the 50cals. to make this possible the armored conning tower was removed. I strongly but respectfully disagree. As I said before it is tough to clear this up with most of the pictures I have found. But looking on the same page of this book (47) the second photo shows to me what appears to be the armored conning tower with the 20mm guns in place. In the book Guadalcanal looking at the photos taken by Dr Robert Ballard's crew of Quincy on the bottom of Iron Bottom Sound they show the oval shape of the tower in place. (Pages 86,87 and 88). I needed both of these books before I built my Quincy. I am not going to add the 20mm platform now but hope this will help others who may have the same question. I do not wish to stir up anything other than having correct information available. I for one appreciate the time and effort Steve Wiper gives to research and produce his wonderful books. I have been a modeler for thirty years and this is the best of times for having more correct kits and accurate reference material available. I only wish to add to the accuracy of the information available. To Steve I want to say keep up the good work I look forward to each book you produce. I know that there will be a difference of opinion on this issue. But I hope it will help the novice modeler see that producing a good replica of a warship involves research as well as glue. Brad Barker -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Craig R Bennett Subject: USS Apache ATF-67 Hi Guys I am working currently on the USS Apache ATF-67 by Commander models. I have a couple questions does any one know the deck color used by the USN in 1951-2. Also were these ships wood decked or steel decked? Any information would be appreciated. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Graham Walker" Subject: Lee - Aurora Hi does anyone know if it's available in the UK?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: USS Cole arrives for repairs http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/national/cole14.shtml -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: HAZEGRAYADM@aol.com Subject: Re: WEM paints Great news about the new proposed enamels by WEM (& S & S, I assume)! I've been using acrylics on my present project and am unsure if I'll ever get it done (Just my way of saying I don't like them). I'll take enamels anytime, and particularly if they'll match the S & S paint chips. Just add a little white for,"Scale effect" and your in business. Bert McDowell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Gift Ideas? Agonizing over what to get that special ship modeling enthusiast (i.e., yourself) as a holiday gift? A few excellent new books have appeared on the market in recent weeks. Surely only a coincidence! (1) "The History of the World's Warships" by Christopher Chant. Published in 2000 by Chartwell Books. 440 pages. A massive collection of wonderful photographs and illustrations. Good attention is given to the period from 1880-1930, not just WW2 to the present day. (2) "An Illustrated History of the Royal Navy" by John Winton. Published in 2000 by Thunder Bay Press and Salamander Books, in association with the Royal Navy Museum at Portsmouth. 224 pages, over 500 photos, 12 maps, and three cutaway warship drawings. (3) "The Navy" edited by RADM W. J. Holland, Jr., USN(Ret). Published in 2000 by Hugh Lauter Levin Associates and the Naval Historical Foundation, Washington, DC. Many familiar images but many new ones, too, in this massive history of the USN. 352 pages, profusely illustrated. Roughly the first half of the book covers from 1775 to 1991, while the rest is entitled 'The Fleet Today', with sections on the surface forces, submarines, naval aviation, mine warfare, and supporting services. MWL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: stillmo@mb.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Derek Wakefields 'what ifs" I too have wondered many times the what if scenarios. Does anyone know why Vestal was tied up by ARIZONA? When exactly did the battle fleet tied up at Pear, was it Friday afternoon, was work to be done on ARIZONA requiring the repair ship alongside? I am surprised NEVADA, which was astern, and wide open without any hindrance from another ship, didn't take hits like the OKLAHOMA or CALIFORNIA. Whats amazing too, is the fact that NEOSHO, the lowly little tanker, was 'spared' (not worth a juicy torpedo?} Had she been hit, the resultant explosion and fires could have spread to CALIFORNIA and engulfed her....dont know if there was a running current at Pearl. Points out too, that, the sub base, which went into action immediately and after the attack offensively, were relatively unscathed. I think all the Jap pilots wanted to bag a carrier or a battleship....and to drop a bomb or two after driving/flying all that way to hit a boring oil tank storage farm was, well, nothing to brag about back in the old debriefing room. If just one carrier had been caught in port and no doubt disposed of, just think of it, CORAL SEA, and MIDWAY may not ever have happened for a couple of years. Always wanted to muse about all this. Sorry. RDB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: "Robert Mosher" Subject: Re: Stolen Sub Plans!!! Opps - now that you have admitted having secret information regarding this torpedo you can expect a visit from the KG - I mean the SVR!! Death to spies!!! Robert M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: "Robert Mosher" Subject: Russian Aviation I think this is a garbled version of what are actually two separate stories. The first story from a couple of weeks back noted that Russian aircraft had gotten close enough to the USS KITTY HAWK in the Sea of Japan to take it's picture - i.e. well inside its normal air defense. The Chinese media really played it up apparently, the U.S. version was something like "Yawn, we know because we watched them all the way in but we knew it wasn't a problem." The second story was about the redeployment of Tu-95 "Bear" bombers to a number of bases closer to the coastal zones and the Arctic from which they intend to resume over water and over ice patrol flights. Again, U.S. reaction was pretty relaxed and noted that our F-15s in Alaska in particular would be happy to go up and say "hi!' Robert M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: Peter K. H. Mispelkamp Subject: Re: 1/300 SCALE IJN WWII DESTROYER KITS RE-ISSUED. YUKIKAZE AND YUGUMO Check out the Warship message board for more info. Don't know about any other 1/300 but the boxart of these re-releases hints at a new release of some of their old 1/400 scale IJN cruisers. If only this were true!!! From what I have been able to gather, Tamiya released /created the molds for all four of the Mogami class cruisers, at least one member of the Tone class, and all four of the ships of the Nati class. I have a copy of their instruction sheet for the Myoko, and it clearly shows that some of these ships were either in their range or at the very least been planned. The Mogami and Tone models that I own were released by UPC, while my Suzaya and Kumano were released by an outfit identified as "Hobby". Boy would I like to complete my collection of these ships! Happy modeling. Sincerely Peter K. H. Mispelkamp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: dhjonespsm@juno.com Subject: Re: Clermont ramblings Rhinobones writes: >> Looking for opinion and/or recommendation on two versions of the ship of Fulton's Folly, the Clermont, and whether these kits can be built into respectable models. The kits in question are the: 1) Lindberg's Clermont from about 1985 2) Ideal Toy Co. Clermont circa 1960 These are probably the same kit released under different brand names and they both look to be about 1:125 to 1:150 in scale. Would like to hear from anyone who has built, or shelved, either of these kits. << I had the Lindberg version many years ago - but unfortunately I no longer have it. As I recall it was to a scale of 1/96 and seemed to be a respectable effort. I have never seen the ITC kit - which I have seen listed as being in 1/124 scale. I cannot comment in detail about the kits, but I have had a long standing interest in the "Clermont" and offer the following commentary for what it is worth. First, it is doubtful if either kit is a correct model of the original 'North River Steamboat" - commonly called the Clermont. Recently historians have stated that the boat was never actually named Clermont. This was the name of the estate of Chancelor Livingston on the Hudson which was one of the landings on the boat's trip up river. However, the name Clermont has seen common usage in reference to this vessel since at least 1845. At this point in time no one really knows exactly what this boat looked like. The model by Lindberg (and presumably that of ITC also) is actually a model based on a replica that was built to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the original ship and 200th year marking the exploration of the Hudson river - called the "Hudson-Fulton Celebration" in 1909. As part of this event a commission was formed to design and build a full size working replica which was to be operated up and down the river. The literature of the period is very vague as to the source material that they used for design and construction of the replica. The original patent drawings did not exist as they were lost in a fire in 1836. However, although the original drawings were lost, there were copies made - by Fulton. The duplicate drawings were sent to England in 1811 with a Mr. Joseph C. Dyer, who represented Fulton with the idea of promoting the invention in England. Copies of these duplicated drawings were published in a book called "Robert Fulton: Engineer and Artist" by Dickinson (London 1912). How Mr. Dickinson gained access to them is not known but it seems likely that he used the ones in the Birmingham Library (see below). It was not common knowledge before the appearance of this book that these drawings existed and it is doubtful that the commission in New York would have had any knowledge of them when they designed their replica in 1907. There apparantly were at least two sets of authorized copies of the original patent drawings that made it to England. One set was in the posession of the ship builders Boulton and Watt, and in the late thirties these were part of the Boulton & Watt collection at the Birmingham Reference Library. I seem to recall that Birmingham was heavily bombed in WW II. I wonder if these drawings still exist today. The other set turned up the files of the British magazine "The Engineer" when they were packing up to move to new quarters in about 1931. There was no documentation found as to how they had come into possession of them. Realizing their historical importance, these drawings (20 in all) were offered to the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. In time these drawings (16 of the most important ones) were published in the annual Transactions of the Society of Naval Architects and Marines Engineers in 1934. Four of the sixteen scale drawings published by SNAME relate directly to the Clermont - and possibly at least two of the machinery detail drawings. The rest are dealing with other applications of the patent - including transmission of power to a stern paddlewheel. As for contemporary drawings/paintings of the "Clermont" (unfortunately she existed before the age of photography) they all seem to differ in details. Some show open paddlewheels, others with boxes - and deck structures and details vary and move about - so most cannot be regarded as trustworthy. Probably the most reliable is the sketch included in the Dyer copies - presumably done by Fulton - called "steamboat in the highlands" - which is unquestionably a sketch of the "Clermont". The replica is very well documented with both plans and photographs. The (Dyer) drawings (copies of the patent drawings) and the layout of the replica plans differ in significant details, although there are a few points of similarity. There are no general arrangement plans of the Clermont in the patent drawings - only drawings of some of the details. General arrangement plans were published of the replica in 1909 and the model is a pretty good match for these. No paddle boxes are shown on the plans, but photos show that these were installed on the replica - probably because without them the guests on board would have been soaked. Fulton's drawings also show paddleboxes (of a different design than those on the replica) in both the scenic sketch and on the plan view of the paddlewheel installation - which seems conclusive evidence that they were installed on the original Clermont - for probably the same reason as they were added on the replica. So far I have been unable to find out any specific information as to what happened to the Clermont replica after the celebration was over. Does anyone know? Daniel Jones Plastic Ship Modeler magazine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: Lump518176@aol.com Subject: Re: Battleship Row...Derek W Pennsylvania was Pac. Fleet Flag. and was always moored at 1010 Dock (except when in drydock!). BTW there is no proof that Arizona was hit by a torpedo, in fact, PH attack experts pretty much accept that Arizona was hit by only high level bombs from "Kates" (carrying converted 16" shells for bombs). Jerry Phillips -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Book: Anson's Voyage Saw an interesting book review -- THE PRIZE OF ALL THE OCEANS The Dramatic True Story of Commodore Anson's Voyage Round the World and How He Seized the Spanish Treasure Galleon By Glyn Williams, Viking. 264 pp. $27.95 "The voyage to which the subtitle of this book refers began in November 1740, when a squadron under the command of Commodore George Anson set sail from the English Channel. It consisted of eight ships and 1,900 men, many of whom had been involuntarily pressed into service, as was the custom of the day. It ended nearly four years later, when a single ship--Anson's own Centurion--sailed into Spithead in June 1744, with a mere 188 survivors from the original expedition on board." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4364-2000Dec14.html Sounds like a great story! MWL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: "Michael J. D'Silva" Subject: Re: New Paint Range From WEM and S&S Cataldo Torelli (Madrid, Spain), wrote: >> It's a great idea the development of the naval colour paints but, and it's my opinion, I'd rather they been acrylics. << Aye, and I'll second that! I stopped working with enamels years ago, for various reasons. Hmm, guess I'll just have to miss out. However, the ones who will use and benefit from this latest offering from WEM will be modellers of renown and advanced skills who want the nth degree of accuracy. My models will sit in display cases in the living room of my home and are not intended for competitions, etc. As long as the colour scheme I use is reasonably accurate, I'm quite satisfied. Michael D'Silva Melbourne, Australia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Ned Barnett Subject: IPMS Ship Column - a calm, rational request for contributions and help This is a blatant plea for contributed "how I built this kit" write-ups (with photos), as well as reviews of new products and new products (ATTN: manufactures and publishers) ... if you don't like blatant pleas (or if you don't have products - books, kits, after-market goodies - to review), please disregard. As a former editor of the IPMS Quarterly and a life member of the society, I have recently been named to replace SMML's Rusty White as the new ship-model editor for the International Plastic Modelers Society (IPMS/USA) Journal. In that role, I'll be responsible for the regular coverage of new ship models, new naval aircraft models, after-market materials (resin, PE, decals, etc.) and naval reference books and materials. For what I assume are obvious reasons, I'd like to use this column to feature the kit-building work - as well as the new-product work - of members of SMML who are also IPMS (or who support IPMS). I think there's a nice synergy there, and I intend to build on that synergy to create a great column, fully worthy of the strong legacy Rusty White has created over the past five or so years. And I need your help. We go to press 5 times a year, and my first column is due in a month - at the rate I build kits, I'd be in trouble if I relied on my own built-up kit reviews (however, at the rate I buy kits, books and PE/Resin, I could fill the column with product reviews ... ). Anyway, I need, would like, beg and eagerly solicit your help. 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