Subject: SMML VOL 1106 Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 1:24 PM shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Queen Mary 2: Moving to San Francisco 3: Moskva detail set (a mini review) 4: If you're moving to San Francisco 5: Re: Karlesruhe 6: Pacific Front 7: Re: [OT] San Francisco 8: Queen Mary Warpaint -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: IPMS-USA-ShipModelers - A new list for contributors and wannabes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: Queen Mary I built two of the GHQ 1:2400 Queen Marys some years ago, one in peacetime colors and one in wartime. The Anatomy of a ship book QUEEN MARY has all you need to know in it. To most folks it's the wartime version that gives them trouble. That book not only has several photos (including a great one showing the degausing cable), it has a complete deckplan showing where all the added armament and where the extra life rafts and boats were stowed. Cheers, Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Glenn & Kelly Neklason" Subject: Moving to San Francisco Derek Contact me off list-for some reason I can't get through to your email your "...name was not found at the remote site." (Whatever the heck that means). Glenn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Moskva detail set (a mini review) Peter Hall sent me the new WEM 1/600 Moskva / Leningrad detail set for the Airfix / Heller Moskva kit. The Moskva has always been one my favorite modern warships. However, I have never built one of the kits hoping someone, someday would issue a detail set for it. I have considered doing just that in past as a limited production run under the Flagship Models line, so I had already done research on the ship with that in mind. When I heard that WEM was going to release a set I was ecstatic. Since I have two Moskvas in my closet, I will be putting this set to good use. The set is the usual WEM quality with raised etched relief on most of the parts. The instructions are just great and very easy to read and follow. They are well illustrated with 3D drawings making them very easy to read. The set comes with enough parts to really detail the model right. Since I had done research on this model for a set, I knew what I would personally put in my own set. Peter has done that and a lot more. A nice touch was the addition of bulkhead details (hatches, hangar bay doors and others) that the kit so badly needed. The thinnest lines on the rails and Top Sail radar are exquisitely thin. Also included with the set are details to really jazz up the Hormone helicopters rear stabilizers, rotors and landing gear make the little helos masterpieces in miniature. The Headlight fire control radar is the jewel of the set (8 parts to this alone). The nameplates common to Soviet warships are also included for Moskva and Leningrad. In short, this is an absolutely wonderful detail set for this long neglected kit. Once all theses details are added, it should make the old Moskva into a model you can be proud of and will hold its own in any contest. The only shortcoming to the set (in my opinion) is the lack of helicopter rotors. I'm sure due to space restrictions, there are only enough details for two Hormone helicopters. I like to load up the deck on my model, so I'll use two sets for mine. As a photo etch designer and manufacturer, I recommend this set highly. Well done! Rusty White Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ We now accept Visa & MasterCard world wide via Pay Pal "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: Ned Barnett Subject: If you're moving to San Francisco ... to the tune of an old '67 Peace-and-Love song ... "If you're moving to San Francisco Be sure to pack some money by the ton In the streets of San Francisco There is housing at price beyond compare There's a whole generation with a new explanation Everything costs more Everything costs more (etc.) Seriously, Derek - this is very literally the highest-cost housing market in the USA, by a long shot. My employer's home office is there - and quite literally, it's less expensive for them to fly me in whenever they need me than to move me there (to get an equivalent house). Where I live (Las Vegas), costs are about 1/5th of San Francisco (for housing) - maybe even less. In the SF area (San Jose actually), a 2 bedroom bungalow with less than 1,000 square feet sold last summer for over $900,000 - and while you can do better, it's damned tough to find anything affordable. Also, without notable skills, you'll be competing with the huge crop of immigrants who flock to SF - people for whom minimum wage is wealth beyond imagining - and with the recent rash of dot.com crashes, there are lots of little high-skilled dot.commies looking for work (any work). I don't want to paint a grim picture, but there are lots of places where lower-skilled people can find work and live inexpensively. I frankly consider Las Vegas to be no better than suburban Hell (I'm trying desperately to find a way to move almost anywhere else), but for someone starting out, this is a low-cost, high-work-availability town (and there are IPMS chapters and a couple of half-decent hobby shops). Not a place to settle or raise a family, and not for someone who never met a temptation he didn't like, but if you have will-power and a strong work-ethic, you could do worse here for starters. Hell, I'll GIVE you my home to take over the payments (and that offer applies to anybody, seriously). But enough about me - good luck, Derek, wherever you settle. Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: Karlesruhe >> The one I am interested in was in Juneau, Alaska in 1932. Also need to know if it was in Alaskan water at any other time in the 1930's. Some believe it was in Sitka, Alaska as late as 1938 and that is what I need to know for a story I am doing. << There are some of the German Navy ships logs on file at the US Archives in Collage Park, MD., and they can be copied there, and then you will have to translate them. I have seen the logs for Bismarck, Prinz Eugen, and Graf Spee, so I know there are some. By the way, you are asking about the particular light cruiser in the WWII Kriegsmarine, Karlesruhe, which, I believe was sunk during the Norway campaign, early in the war. There were a few ships named as such. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: melee Subject: Pacific Front Lee Shackelford to Jerry Philips Why would anyone order from Pacific Front, their prices are the highest. I recently purchased the Akagi, built by Neptun, plus a set each of Zero, Kate and Val--from East Coast. Including shipping, the cost was less than Pacific Front's price just for the ship, without added shipping costs. I live in Taiwan, so the shipping is also more than inside the US. I also purchase from Christian Schmidt, great prices and very good service. If anyone wants, I have been working on an Excel document--the prices for Neptun ships from different suppliers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Derek Wakefield Subject: Re: [OT] San Francisco Thanks to all of you Bay Area SMMLies for sharing your respective PoVs on moving/living in San Francisco. Your warning shots across my bow shall not go unheeded. Although I already knew about the high cost of living there, I found some of your comments very informing. Accordingly, I'm returning to CIC to make major adjustments to my battle plan based on your comments. Something tells me it's going to take a lot longer than I originally planned to pull this one off. Thanks again!! Derek Wakefield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Ned Barnett Subject: Queen Mary Warpaint To John Impenna and Michael Eisenstadt and the others who asked ... This is the site Alberto sent to me: http://members.nbci.com/debrisfield/scratch/Deckplans/queenmary/qmary.htm It has excellent wartime plans online of Queen Mary Scroll to the bottom of the page; the last two illustrations are the wartime side and overhead views of the QM with weapons. Another site to check out is: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/7270/QMconfigs.html This looks like it might be the same illustrations; certainly, they seem very similar (of course, they illustrate the same ship). I haven't been able to find that Anatomy of a Ship - Queen Mary; if anyone has one to sell or knows where I could find one, I'd be most grateful. If anyone has any further sites, please let me know. Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Ned Barnett Subject: IPMS-USA-ShipModelers - A new list for contributors and wannabes Hi In order to make the IPMS/USA ship modeler's column go more smoothly, I've set up an egroups list for contributors and those who might want to be contributors. I've sent out invitations to those I know might be interested (i.e., those who've corresponded with me since I took over the column from Rusty), but this list will be open to anyone who wants to contribute, now or at some time in the future. In this list, we'll discuss the progress of each column, consider who among the team is best qualified to do reviews of products sent in by manufacturers and basically keep the lines of communications open. It won't be an active list (at least I don't anticipate that), but it will be important to our collective effort to make the IPMS/USA ship model list represent our interests to fellow ship-modelers and to the larger modeling community. If you are not on my invite list but would like to join, please go to IPMS-USA-ShipModelers@egroups.com and sign on. Thanks Ned Barnett new editor, IPMS/USA ship column -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume