Subject: SMML VOL 1112 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 00:05:09 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Combat book again 2: Re: North Carolina sub?? 3: Re: New Book on Cold War Submarine Operations 4: Re: HMS CARDIFF 5: Re: North Carolina sub 6: Re USS North Carolina 7: Old kits 8: Admiral King 9: Re: "Combat Fleets Of The World"--Again 10: Eagle plastic 1200 scale warships 11: Re: More Charles De Gaulle 12: USS San Diego -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: ALROSS2@aol.com Subject: Re: Combat book again >> A search of the Barnes & Noble website brings up 2 books with similar names, Combat fleets of the world 1998 by Baker ISBN 0765554208 $24.95 and NIP Combat fleets of the world 1998-1999 by Baker ISBN 1557501114 $150. << 1114 is the standard 1200 page book that Dave Baker edits for the USNIP. Dave is a good friend of mine, so I'll ask him about the other one and post his response. Al Ross -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Jim Roberts" Subject: Re: North Carolina sub?? >> Has anyone heard about a submarine being launched or built in the near future named the North Carolina. A friend said he read something about it, but I can't confirm it anywhere. Thanks & Happy New Year! << It's entirely possible, though I have not heard anything definite. The newest class of fast attack submarines is known as the VIRGINIA class after the lead ship which is currently under construction. These boats will (mostly ) be named after states. The class is being built jointly by Electric Boat and Newport News Shipbuilding. The lead ship is being built by EB, but NNSB is constructing some modules which are being barged to Groton for assembly. As I understand the system, the second boat will be built by NNSB with modules barged down from Groton, and so-on back and forth. From now on, there will be (roughly) one new boat authorized and funded per year for the next several years. Jim Roberts Budd Lake, NJ Member: Nautical Research Guild Ship Model Society of Northern New Jersey -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Jim Roberts" Subject: Re: New Book on Cold War Submarine Operations >> For those of you who enjoyed "Blind Man's Bluff" by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drews, a new book will be published this March, written By John P. Craven. Craven is a prominent figure in Naval Undersea system developments, and was Project Scientist on the Polaris Missile Program. Craven developed the systems used by the USS Halibut when she was converted to a "Special Projects" submarine. Halibut covertly inspected the wreckage of the Soviet Golf II submarine, lost in 1968, by deploying robotic cameras from Halibut (submerged at 300 feet) down to the Golf at 17,000 ft. Craven also used advanced techniques in searching for "lost" items underwater, including H-bombs and the USS Scorpion. The book is "The Silent War: The Cold War Beneath the Sea" John Pina Craven; Hardcover; $25.00. I preordered a copy for myself, and will review it online when it becomes available. << Considering Craven's experience and reputation, I expect that this book will probably be better than _Blind Man's Bluff_, in that it has been written with an insider's knowledge. BMB was a pretty good read, but barely scratched the surface and lacked an insider's familiarity with and understanding of submarines and submarine operations. I expect the Craven book to be considerably more revealing. Jim Roberts Budd Lake, NJ Member: Nautical Research Guild Ship Model Society of Northern New Jersey -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "JOHN CURRIE" Subject: Re: HMS CARDIFF She was having R+R during her stint as West Indies Guardship, Visits to Mayport are quite common for RN Warships. Happy New Year to all John W Currie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Glenn & Kelly Neklason" Subject: Re: North Carolina sub Yes, there is a new USS North Carolina. It is one of the new Virginia class submarines. She is SSN-777 and will be built at Newport News Shipbuilding, due out in 2004. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: DRPREUL@aol.com Subject: Re USS North Carolina Two weeks ago the navy named the forth Virginia class attack sub, USS North Carolina SSN-777 The others are: SSN-774 USS Virginia Will be built at Electric Boat SSN-775 USS Texas " " " " Newport News S&D SSN-776 USS Hawaii " " " " Electric Boat SSN-777 USS North Carolina " " " Newport News S&D Happy New Year everyone, Don & Jeanne at J&D Productions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: David Fisher Subject: Old kits I am looking for information about an old wooden ship model kit of the USCG 83 foot patrol boat. What was the scale of the kit. Also, who manufactured a kit of the US Revenue Cutter Dallas?. David Fisher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Admiral King Joel Labow noted - >> King was a man of huge appetites and prejudices (he was a binge drinker of monumental proportions) and iron will, but it's hardly fair to say that WWII was won in spite of him. << I'm not sure where I read it (Buell's bio?), but one of King's daughters is supposed to have remarked "He's the most even-tempered man I ever met -- he's always in a rage." I think his spirit inhabited the ship named for him, and took possession of the captains from time to time! : ) MWL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: TerrYBettYS@webtv.net (Terry Sandin) Subject: Re: "Combat Fleets Of The World"--Again I read Darren Scannell's question regarding the volume of "Combat Fleets Of The World" I purchased last week at the Barnes and Noble Store in Pleasant Hill/Concord, California (all 1200 pages of it). I went by this same store this Monday (1/1) afternoon to confirm that what they are still selling in their "BARGAIN SECTION" is: "The Naval Institute Guide To Combat Fleets Of The World, 1998-1999" by A.D. Baker III (ISBN #1-55750-111-4) with an "Original Price- $150.00" and "Special Value-$24.95" sticker on it. I saw four copies remaining. They now also have next to it in this Bargain Section: "The Naval Institute Guide To World Military Aviation-1997-1998" by Rene Francillon (ISBN #1-55750-265-X) with the same "Original Price-$150.00" and "Speclal Value-$24.95" sticker on it (I counted 9 copies). If interested, I list below their phone number once again (when ordering confirm that what you are getting is the "Special Value" item): 925-609-7060 TerryS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Barton B Cox Subject: Eagle plastic 1200 scale warships On e-bay there are currently listings for 11 of the out-of-production Eagle plastic 1200 warships kits. Since the Pyro copies of some of these ships whetted my appetite for 1200 and later 1250 waterline ship models back in the 1960's, my question is this: Can anyone list all of the Eagle 1200 waterline ship models that were produced? bartoncox@juno.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: Re: More Charles De Gaulle Shane, Re Courtney Regan's request for info on the French carrier Charles deGaulle, download the attached. It is in French. http://www.cfcsc.dnd.ca/links/milorg/france.html Page one - download "Naval Forces" Page two - download "Charles deGaule" Page tree - dowmload "Probleme d'helice sur le Charles deGaulle" This is the only info I could find. If you can translate for Courtney Regan we all may get some info. Regards, John - Seattle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Damian Pliszka Subject: USS San Diego Hi group, All the best in new century... Thanks to Bert McDowell for his response. I agree that it is possible that colors of 31a/24D was changed from 5-H and 5-N to 5-L and BK. By this change measure was changed to 32/24D. My question is if deck was patterned with 5-O and 20-B or not like in MS 31a? Any comments will be appreciated. Regards Damian Pliszka -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume