Subject: SMML VOL 1221 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:51:07 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Commandant Teste 2: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table 3: What's on the workbench 4: Re: Whats on the workbench 5: What's on the bench (table) 6: Re: What are People Building? 7: ANZAC Day 8: What's on the workbench/reading table 9: Commandant Teste 10: Thanks from Karl 11: Re: scribed scale wood 12: aircraft of Maryland 13: More stirrings! 14: Re: aircraft of Maryland 15: Whatcha Building? 16: whats on the workbench 17: Ship name 18: What's on the workbench/reading table 19: Soviet Radars 20: Re: On the workbench 21: Re: Health warning! 22: Re: Book on Monitors 23: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table 24: Re: Navy Yard Museum 25: Re: Whats on the bench 26: Navy Yard Museum 27: Re: errors 28: Inside the China Rescue Mission 29: Re: What's on the workbench 30: Re: WW2 squadron colors 31: Re: aircraft of Maryland 32: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table? 33: "France" 34: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table? 35: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table? 36: What's on the workbench 37: Vorpostenboote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: Re: SMML HORNET CON -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: NEW ITEMS COMING -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS Welcome to the ANZAC Edition of SMML 86 years ago today, ANZAC (Australian & New Zealand Army Corps) troops landed in Gallipoli. Today we honour all our servicemen past & present. "They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn; At the going down of the sun, and in the morning, We will remember them" "LEST WE FORGET" Shane & Lorna Jenkins -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Commandant Teste Hi Friedrich Marines Editions publish a book on Commandant Teste, this might help. Its title Le Bearn et Le Commandant Teste by J. Moulin, L. Morareau and C. Picard. It's 248 pages long with 250 illustrations and according to my catalogue coasts 390 FF. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Ramires, Filipe C" Subject: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table Hello list Good thread Shane! Since I am now in the UK again I left all my tools in Portugal again, but in the month of vacations that I have there I manage to build something. I am currently building the Z-30 (Narvik class destroyers or Project 1936A) in a Norway fjord. It is getting quite awesome. Other projects on the workbench: I am finishing my Russian submarine base (huge project with 3 submarines and other small vessels). Beginning my USS Atlanta (CLAA-51) in her last configuration (13th of November of 1942). Researching and beginning also a Tamiya "O" class destroyer. Still finishing my ORP Orzel diorama at 1/400 in a dock. About reading, unfortunately nothing related with ships...I must pay more attention to my studies now. Still, I have finish reading "Business in Great Waters - The U-Boats Wars" of John Terraine to one of my studies and I manage to get a good mark for it!!! Regards. Filipe C. Ramires Colchester, UK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Cooper, Mike" Subject: What's on the workbench Dear all Well, now that you asked, amidst piles of junk, dust, cat hair and cat 1. HMS Mutine - scratchbuild in 1/700th - just having her figures painted and a little touch more varnish on her sea - I'm using a mix of Windsor&Newton gloss and matt. Regular SMMlies will remember that she's been almost finished for ages. Not 100% happy with her, but she's OK. Plan to do a thing for PSM on her as a "how not to do it" 2. The Hull of an F class destroyer - chopped down from the Skywave O using my patent "hack it and see" method, and waiting for me to psych myself up for it. You can get A-I out of the O hull quite nicely. Trouble is everytime I decide which ship I'll do Mr Raven comes up with more lovely colour schemes. She'll probably be one of the two in Vol1 with brown bits and a roundel on the foc'sle. 3. The Regia Marina/Delphis La Masa class destroyer - started and on its base. Very pretty 4. A Nieuport 17 which I've got bored with 5. A patrol of 20mm WW1 Cossacks (IT Figures on SHQ horses). All horses done and figures two thirds painted 7. A Morris Light recce car - in pink (Syria 1943) 8. An Austin 7 - Palestine 1936 - cream and red brown. (1/76th) 9. Tank Mk IV Supply - waiting for me to make lots of ammo boxes and stick rivets on. If you want dimensions for WW1 small arms ammo boxes I have them. 9. My favourite at the moment - a 7inch Armstrong Breech Loader on a Moncrieff disappearing mount c. 1870 - 1/76th scrtachbuild Oh...and a Blacker Bombard and Home Guard crew I'm repairing and a Staghound and a couple of Italian Subs and A late Type IX c I've only just started..(All in my cupboard - does this count?) As the Armstrong was designed to shoot at ships, does it count double? Anyone else out there into coastal artillery? Hey - don't forget that there's a documentary on BBC this week about the bombardments of Whitby and Hartlepool. Any thoughts on C4's Battleships? Chaotically yours Mike Cooper Reading UK - an a nice sunny evening after a horrible rainy day. (Yes Shane, its been raining in Reading) PS. Any UK readers wanting access to the drawings in Buxton's Monitors book, let me know off list on coopmik1@hotmail.com - I don't have the book, but I built Abercrombie some years ago, and have drawings of some others knocking around. PPS. Could any aussie readers wishing to barrack me (on or off list) about this summer's cricket please get it off their chests now! I'd rather mourn quietly when it happens! PPPs - If you live in the USA or Canada (or anywhere else) near a street named "Armour Road" drop me a line off list as I'm publishing a little book on Armour Road Tilehurst (the nice end of Reading). PPPPS Say "Happy Birthday Mike" I'm 39 you know... Hi Mike, Happy Birthday mate - ya old bastard ;-) As for the cricket, well you never know ;-) Shane & Lorna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "william k code" Subject: Re: Whats on the workbench Hello list, As My gallery at Splice the Mainbrace said. Im still plugging away at Hellers 1/100 scale HMS Victory ...just about to fit the main deck.. Im also getting the itch to start WSW SMS Defflinger in 1/700 now that I have some nice Pe and flags for her. I will be purchasing Hellers 1/400 scale KM Prinz Eugen soon...I plan to do the pit road 1/700 scale Prinz in her baltic work up camo along with a Bismarck ... Any ideas on a 1/700 scale Bismarck? Who makes a nice one?? I wasnt impressed with the old Tamaya Bismarck in this scale... cheers Bill Code -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Mark C Krumrey" Subject: What's on the bench (table) Greetings List: Thank you Shane for putting an end to the fruitless postings. I am currently working on the Revell Arizona kit, as she appeared at Pearl Harbor December 1941. I am using the GMM PE Detail set for it, and for reference the Stillwell book, "USS Arizona", and the movie, "Here Comes the Navy". This book is invaluable for the modeller. Thanks to John Snyder for his personal reply on the color of measure 1. I am going to paint it using Testor Model Master Gunship Grey, and Testors wood for the deck. I am not going to scratch build 14,000 parts, but am making platforms and railing for the 5" mounts, detailing the stack with the extra ventilator, and exhaust pipes, adding some details to gun directors located on the forward bridge structure, and adding little details such as doors, hatches, etc. The real work was removing the molded on railings and gun tubs, and with any ship model, determining how much detail, time, do I want to put into it. This will be a compromise between the two. IT is surprising how much detail is molded into the model, and how it stands up to todays standards. It is a great vehicle for just such a project, and a large enough scale to have fun with. Next on the bench is either the LEE kit of the British cruiser Aurora, or the LEE Perry Class Frigate, or the Ticonderoga using the old Lindberg kit, and the bridge and aircraft from a Revell angle decked Essex. We shall see. Mark Krumrey New RIchmond WI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Bob Pearson" Subject: Re: What are People Building? S&L ask. .. >> What are people either building, looking to build or purchase and what are you reading at the moment??? << Building three L'Arsenal 1/400 Flowers and one Revell Flower. Reading Convoy by Martin Middlebrook. Just got some Ensigns/Man'o'War off eBay and am also ordering some B-Resina ships later today. Regards, Bob Pearson Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "B.Fish" Subject: ANZAC Day Shane I was told sometime ago that the 25th of April is ANZAC Day, is this true? If so then I salute the Honorable British, French,and Australian And New Zealand Army Gave there all on that day in 1915 at The Gallipoli Campaign we here In the US sometimes forget that Australia and Britain lost the Cream of the crop, not to talk about the Loss of a cruisers or two, Like HMS Irresistible, and Inflexible, just to name two, If my memory is right about 16 to 20 Royal naval ships took part in that campaign, Along with France's navy, maybe more? Just wanted to post this in memory of the RAN, AZ, NZ, at this time, and date Respectfully, Bruce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: Felix Bustelo Subject: What's on the workbench/reading table Hi Folks, Well now that my Airfix Ajax, wearing WEM photoetch and a dazzle camo scheme thanks to Alan Raven's RN Camo Vol. 1 is finally completed, I can now concentrate on finishing the WEM HMS Nurton kit, built as the Bronnington. Yes I am building a 1/350 scale resin kit (shock/gasp!). Next up is a toss up between the Airfix HMS Leander or the OLM Normandie. I recently finished reading "The Only Way to Cross" by John-Maxtone Graham. An excellent book on the golden age of ocean liner travel. This is a must read if you are a fan of the old Atlantic grayhounds. Currently not reading anything as I have been working on the next IMM update on my laptop during my train rides to/from work. Regards, Felix Bustelo International Maritime Modeling URL: http://members.tripod.com/~Febus65/imm.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "larsenal" Subject: Commandant Teste Hello, Here are the planes embarked onboard the Commandant Teste in 1932: 1931-1932 Escadrille 7S2: Gourdou-Leseurre 810 1932 Escadrille 7B2: Levasseur PL-14 Best reference to date is : Le Béarn et le Commandant Teste from Marines Edition. I guess that this book is still available. Best regards, Jacques Druel L'Arsenal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: dlfowler@uscg.net Subject: Thanks from Karl Hello All, I have been asked to pass on the gratitude of the LeVezu family to all who sent post cards to Karl. He has been quite excited to discover that the world is such a big place. His classroom has a large world map and they have been locating the source of each card. From Karl and from me, thank you all very much! Best regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "B.Fish" Subject: Re: scribed scale wood >> I am not on the lumberyards site so any orders / requests need to be sent thru this email address. My site can be seen at http://www.laserservices.net but it was the first attempt at building a site and does not reflect where I'm at now. An updated site is being worked up now. << This website came to me as I was looking for Something better to make my Flight deck with, I was trying to Find the 1\96 scale scribed wood decking Thinking it might be better than any hobby shop Could offer, so I'm passing this link along to all scale Wooden ship modeler's that like custom work, Enjoy the hobby Respectfully, Bruce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Kevin W. Woodruff" Subject: aircraft of Maryland The USS Maryland used the Vought VE-7H (from February 13 to July 13th) and the Vought VE-9H in 1922. In 1923 the Vought UO-1 was introduced. A picture of a VE-7H is at: http://www.vought.com/photos/data/ve-7var.htm Specifications: Length: 31' 1" 9.4 m Height: 10' 2" 3.1 m Wingspan: 34' 1" 10.3 m Gross Weight: 2,300 lb 1,043 kg Propulsion Powerplant: Hispano-Suiza Horsepower (each): 180 Performance Max Speed: 110 mph 177 km/h 95 kt Ceiling: 14,800 ft 4,510 m Kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: Subject: More stirrings! Hi All Noting that the long running mutterings about A.R. v C.L. are drawing to a close, and as I have known Alan for more years than I can recall (over 30) when he resided this side of the pond (I know his wife and the dog too). I also know Chris although for a much shorter period. (I know little about camouflage in spite of having various items of official data, gathered from various sources). I will own up to the fact that I am currently working on the drawings for Chris's coming volume. We have both spent time and money on original research. I am working on the drawings (forever it seams) What will the content be then? ALL the weapon systems, in fine detail. (This is providing the Publisher Chatham will include everything - I have already sent previously unseen samples). To include :-Twin 4.7" Mark XIX Mounting, Quad. 2 Pdr Pom Pom Mark VII Mounting, all the various marks of depth charge throwers and rails.The Director Control Tower, and 3 man range finder. 20mm Oerlikons both single and twin. .303" Lewis guns. 21" Torpedo tubes. 27 Ft Whaler, 25 ft Motor Boat, 16 Ft fast motor boat (Skimming dish). Specific drawings for the three classes completed to date include. HMS Napier - Docking plan Shell expansion Holes in the outer bottom Shaft brackets HMSs Juno and Kelvin Arrangement of Fire Control and Navigation voice pipes Depth charge release gear Echo sounding instillation. I am working on details of the TSDS - Two Speed Destroyer Sweep. General arrangement drawings that I wish to include are:- HMS Napier - rig and wireless rig. Profile Sections Upper deck Lower deck The elevation and training of armament for the three classes. The breakdown of design proposals. Type 18 A/S destroyer proposed post war conversion. HMS Javelin - Profile HMS Kelvin - Profile I must get back to the drawing board! Yours "Aye" John Lambert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: James Corley Subject: Re: aircraft of Maryland >> Which aircraft served on USS Maryland in 1922? << BB&CA Aircraft of USN shows 2 photos of VE-7H being shot from MARYLAND in February and September 1922. a/c A5970 served aboard from 28FEB22 until 13JUL22 and suffered no damage. a/c # A6463 served from at least SEP22 until JUL23, when is was wrecked during a failed shot (cold cat). Both photos show the aircraft in standard markings with their BuNo on the side of the a/c. OU-1s entered service in 1923. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Whatcha Building? Hey, Shane & Lorna--Good idea, that other stuff was getting dreary. I'm scratchbuilding a 1/8"=1' scale model of the NOAA research ship Miller Freeman. Just finished power sanding the hull, which is the first model of a long-term contract. Right now the house is permeated with the sickly sweet aroma of 3-M Acryl-Blue glazing putty. Funny how the chihuahua buries herself under blankets and the cats are all scratching to go outside whenever I smear that stuff on a hull... Also have a Bangor Class M/S, USCG 210 footer, 85' ST tug and a NOAA survey ship hull--all hanging like sausages from the rack as Karl Kalb says. These are recreational models and may actually some day get finished. As for reading, Model Ship Journal. Of course! Victor Baca ...Must Get Fresh Air... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Doug G. MacAhonic" Subject: whats on the workbench Hi all, after losing my fleet (several 100 1/700 scale) in a huge Fireball (I like to think of the accident as the Bikini Atoll experiments) I am in the process of rebuilding my fleet. Right now I am putting the finishing touches on the Kirishima and the Fuso and have started the Ise and the Ryujo with plans on adding photoetch to them at a later date when funds are available. Thanks to Gordon Hogg for his help in rebuilding my fleet! Doug MacAhonic (My family name comes from Ernst Mach and we ALL know who he is, Don't we??) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Denis L Johnson Subject: Ship name Shane, was HMS Onslow named after Onslow the character in "Keeping Up Appearances" the British series that has been showing as re-runs here for at least 10 years? Denis Johnson Hi Denis, No, I don't think so, esp since the Onslow is a WWII DD ;-). Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: David Sepos Subject: What's on the workbench/reading table Building the AMT/Ertl Russian Tu-22M3 Backfire (kit advertised as Tu-26) and reading the Detail and Scale book on the USS Lexington CV-16. Contemplating building the DML USS Ingersoll in 1/350 next...... and glad to see that Shane trimmed that thread. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: dlfowler@uscg.net Subject: Soviet Radars Hello All, I am looking for some information concerning Soviet era radars. It seems that no one at this time makes any PE (hint, hint) and I am in desparate need of documentation if I am to manufacture my own. Any reference sources would be much appreciated. Best regards, Duane Fowler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: Dave Judy Subject: Re: On the workbench Hi Gang! I'm finishing up the IS USS Pittsburgh, I'm about 80% done, all those little itti-bitti parts!! Next...........Hmmmm good question! Dave Judy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Dave Judy Subject: Re: Health warning! I'm going to the doctors Friday,.......is there a blood test for this.....or something?? There's a woman who's been wandering my house for the last ten years............I think I married her?? Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Re: Book on Monitors Dear Dimi, I will consider selling you the book if you tell me what is REALLY going at lake Vostok. I mean,eleven people (all Rathyon personel) gotten out on an emergency basis, and only four of them supposedly sick. And why the sending of 24' long satellite tagged boxes to McMurdo from Mirimar also on an emergency basis? And why the taking over of the the whole thing by the spooks at the NSA? The truth now! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "Sean D. Hert" Subject: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table I'm currently building a 1/400 Heller Z-31 destroyer, with GMM PE. I also recently purchased a Paasche DA airbrush, and I'm now trying to learn how to use it on above ship. This is my first "real" attempt at a ship kit- so I bought two to cover my mistakes. If it goes well, I'll move to the Heller Torpedoboot. Has anyone ever done a write-up on mounting ships? I've found some brass lamp finials, and extended the internal thread for a longer bolt. I'm taking a old piece of wood to the router this weekend, which I will then finish up and mount the ship to. These seemed easier than trying to mess with gel medium- I'll try that in the future! Sean D. Hert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Re: Navy Yard Museum The Naval Historical Center website states that the Washington Navy Yard Museum's renovations have been extended to some time in the Summer of 2001. Mike Alexandria VA USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25) From: Chris Rogers Subject: Re: Whats on the bench I think that is a good idea 1-72 Type 12 on builders trials On the slips 1-72 Oberon H.M.S. Onyx 1-72 Fisheries protection vessel H.M.S. Dumbarton Castle 1-72 order No 010 un named - Shhhhhh Shane reading: well trying to figure wife's moods with all of the above going on chris Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26) From: Schiefet@cs.com Subject: Navy Yard Museum Someone inquired regarding the opening of the Navy Yard museum. I was there in January and was told not before June 2001. You might want to check their web page. http://www.history.navy.mil/ Steve Singlar Pelham, NH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27) From: Peter K. H. Mispelkamp Subject: Re: errors >> Can't remember if that error slipped in because of too much wine, women or song! << Chuck: maybe I made them because of too much of these! Actually, we Germans have a saying that, roughly translated, goes like this: "The best way to spend your time is with young women and old wine!" I sometimes would like to add an injected moulded model to that distinguished list. Actually, I think my brain went on auto-pilot and because i had just mentioned those miserable 20mm quads, the "quads" part stuck in my feeble brain. Sincerely Peter K. H. Mispelkamp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28) From: Schiefet@cs.com Subject: Inside the China Rescue Mission Greetings, A friend forwarded me an e-mail written by one of the crew members of the Continental Plane sent to pick up the crew of the EP-3. If anyone is interested, contact me directly and I will forward it along. As it is not ship modeling related, I did not think it was appropriate to send to the forum. Regards, Steve Singlar Pelham, NH Where summer has arrived with a blast of 80 degree weather -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29) From: Marc Flake Subject: Re: What's on the workbench Just finished four subs, two Gato Class subs and two U-boats (a Type VII and a Type XI) all in 1/700. Since they came two to a kit, does this count as two kits finished or four models finished? I'm about to finish up two 1/48 SE 5s and have begun working on four Sopwith Camels (two in 1/72 and two in 1/48) Next up: The Eastwind I was so hot to get last summer. Marc (who's dreading the coming yardwork season -- it's really going to slow me down) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30) From: Marc Flake Subject: Re: WW2 squadron colors The Bible for this is the "The Official Monogram US Navy and Marine Corps Aircraft Color Guide Volume 2, 1940-1949." Cost about $50 new. If you can't find that, look for "Navy Air Colors, Volume 1, 1911-1945," a Squadron/Signal Publication. S/S also published "US Navy Carrier Bombers of World War II" and "US Navy Carrier Fighters of World War II." I believe these are all out-of-print. If you can't find them using AddAll, then try to get them through the Interlibrary Loan Program. Like Joe says, there weren't any squadron colors during this time period. However, in the late war, each carrier had it's own white "squadron" symbol emblazoned on aircraft tails and wings. These books are also essential if you are trying to model aircraft participating in specific actions. Wildcats were marked differently at Coral Sea, Midway, Guadalcanal and North Africa -- and that's just 1942! Marc -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31) From: Marc Flake Subject: Re: aircraft of Maryland Friedrich asked: >> Which aircraft served on USS Maryland in 1922? << The VE-7SF, the first design of the Lewis and Vought Corporation. Marc -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32) From: "Dave Edgerly" Subject: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table? At the moment, I'm attempting my first resin model: BWN 1/350 USS Houston. I've been slowly accumulating ship kits for future building and some kind gentleman asked if I'd like to try building the Houston for a military museum here in Texas. I figured that since I didn't have to pay for the kit what better way to get into resin! I sure do admire your (collective) talent as modellers as this is tougher than my usual armor models. Reading the ONI 204 study of the Kriegsmarine and a large tome about Schwere Panzer Abteilung 503. Dave E Austin, TX PS. Just primed the turrets and spotter planes today. Hull ready for paint. Yeah!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33) From: Graeme Martin Subject: "France" I have a question. I'm building "France" in her 60's configuration. Does anybody know the correct red the French Line used for her funnels? Also got conflicting photo reference of the colour inside life boats. some are seats and bottom of boats red, others not. Any help appreciated. Graeme......... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34) From: "O'Connor" Subject: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table? SMMLies- What's on the bench? Lots, in fact too much. I have a 1/700 Forrestal being backbated to 1956, a 1/700 USS Cimmaron (Jim Shirley) finishing, just finished a JS Sumner DD, HMS Invincible (modern) awaiting PE and final details. I also have a couple of 1/72 aircraft to finish up, and I want to start on Ozmods 1/700 Vampire, as well as a few other small combatants as soon as I can clean off the bench a bit more. Bob O'Connor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 35) From: "Edward and Eleta Malewitz" Subject: Re: What's on the workbench/reading table? I have the lovely WSW Blucher WW I not-quite battlecruiser on my work table. I'd sure like someone to make a photoetch for it (or generic German WW I warships). Superb casting. Ed Malewitz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 36) From: "Rod Dauteuil" Subject: What's on the workbench Current projects include a Tamiya 1/350 Fletcher, and a Tamiya 1/350 New Jersey, the latter of which has been in mothballs for a few months now. Also, just wrapping up a Grumman Tomcat (at least it's NAVAL aviation!). One good sign is that I find I build fewer and fewer aircraft, and more and more ships. And when I do build an aircraft, it's usually a Navy aircraft. Rod -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 37) From: Douglas Subject: Vorpostenboote During WW2 the Kriegsmarine impressed scores of commercial fishing boats into such services as minesweeping, flak support, and convoy escort. These Vorpostenboote were outfitted with all manner of surface attack and flak guns, plus minesweeping paravanes, etc. I have several photos of these craft from Paul Beaver's "German Destroyers and Escorts" and "E-Boats and Coastal Craft" but they're all black-and-white. Is anyone familiar with the paint schemes for the V-P boats? Did they use a standard Kriegsmarine scheme, and what colors were used? Thanks. Doug Bauer Poway, CA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: HGYL@aol.com Subject: Re: SMML HORNET CON Got back from a fantastic trip to San Francisco and Alameda very tired but very happy. It was great to be able to meet up again with old friends and to make so many new ones. Duane and Sami, having been involved in organising last year's bash I know how much goes in to it, you guys did a terrific job. Congratulations and thank you. I can only echo what Gary posted, if you haven't been to one of these gatherings you don't know what you are missing. Oh, by the way, any subscriber to this list wants lessons in vehicle breaking and entering, contact Duane or Sami off list. Best Wishes to All, Harold Lincoln -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Bill Gruner Subject: NEW ITEMS COMING We have ordered a large quantity of the new Grand Prix Shuppan books "Anatomy of Japanese Battleships", parts I and II. These will be arriving in about mid-May, so we are taking advance orders now. Price will be $35.00 each. We have also examined a sample of the new YS Masterpieces (from Greece) 1/350 scale resin kit of Greek armored cruiser Averof, and were very impressed by the overall excellent quality of this kit. It compares favorably with the best 1/350 resin kits ever done in this scale. It comes complete with a full photoetch brass detail set, and a superb booklet of computer-generated instructions. Casting and detail are excellent. The prototype, near sister to the Italian Pisa class armored cruisers, was built in Italy in 1907, saw service in WW 2, and still exists as a museum ship today. If you are a die-hard 1/350 collector or builder, you will not want to miss this kit, it is highly recommended. Price will be $285.00 + shipping. 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