Subject: SMML VOL 1231 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:38:40 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: On the workbench 2: Wife. Understanding. Mark 1. Mod 1 3: The Training of Wives and the Workbench 4: Re: Wife/Modeler's, Understanding ver1.0 5: Re: exwives & Utopia 6: Battle Stars and Decorations 7: Wives 8: Wives 9: Correct Priorities 10: J & D Productions 1/192 hulls and fittings 11: ARII kit needed 12: Duane-Landfill fleet 13: The Iowa 14: What's on the bench AND RECOMMENDATIONS 15: Re: Understanding Wife 16: MV Lenses 17: Last voyage of the Scharnhorst 18: Re. Wives 19: On the Work Bench 20: Re: Book on Moniters 21: Re: Goeben 22: Re: Battle stars and decorations 23: Dockyard Model Company 24: NEWS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation 1: Small Warships SIG -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Pacific Front: NEW ITEMS IN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Poutre, Joseph A" Subject: Re: On the workbench From: ogilvietv@webtv.net (Donna Ogilvie) >> Currently my workbench is also under construction out in the garage. Its about 3/4 finished and usable for lager things like sanding the bottom of hulls ect. With luck and if work at my Reserve unit slows down it might get finished this year. Then there is proper lighting etc, Yes, the workbench is a good place for lager. Or porter, stout, ale... << My workbench is a somewhat rickety card table, pending a refurb of our new hobby room in our new house. The 1:1 dollhouse project is taking up much of our time, but I make certain to take time out for my hobby, while my wife has yet to set up her own table. It helps us that she has her own hobbies; at my suggestion, no less. Joe Poutre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Ned Barnett" Subject: Wife. Understanding. Mark 1. Mod 1 From: Bruce Rauss >> A most interesting thread. Having never had a wife, understanding or not, I have question or two if I may. I was wondering if this "Wife/Modeler's, Understanding ver.1.0" is scratch built or available in kit form??? If kit, who the hell makes it? If scratch built, where do I get the plans?? :-D << Bruce. These models (pardon the pun) are grown, not kit-crafted. It starts by finding something they really like - really need in their lives for happiness (something they want to spend money on). Then making modeling the moral equivalent to that. And, be ready to spend some money, regularly, on her moral equivalent (or she'll bust your chops on how selfish you are to get your needs met at the expense of her needs - hey, marriage is about compromise, bubba!). Then, it continues by finding something they really hate (you being gone all day Sunday to play golf, or stopping off on the way home from work for a "drink with the boys" that lasts till next Tuesday, or bowling, or watching the muscular babes on WWF wrestling, or - horrors - watching the Final Four on TV), then say that the only sane and workable alternative to those horrors is modeling. This will require you to actually forego those things - so make sure the "horror" is really horrible, and that you have no intention of actually doing it (but don't tell her that). Then keep reminding her of these BEFORE she can start to complain. Keep it up front - about how modeling meets your deep inner need for creative expression and self actualization, AND about how it keeps you out of the pool hall where you'll lose the mortgage money to cheap hustlers EVERY DAMNED MONTH ... If that doesn't work, consider becoming a monk. Ned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "Kerry L. Jang" Subject: The Training of Wives and the Workbench Hi Everyone, I'm a psychologist and I have applied my psychological training and the techniques I learned, to my wife to keep her happy while I play in the basement. Many of the psychological techniques are behavioural in nature, developed by the famous American psychologist B.F. Skinner on rats and pidgeons. Step 1: Observe wife/girlfriend/significant other, POOSSLQ and find out what she is interested in. This is the "reward". My wife likes crafts and clothes, mostly clothes. Step 2: Determine for yourself what is it is what YOU want. For this example, I want to spend time at the workbench or hobby shop. Step 3: Begin shaping your wife's behaviour by indulging her in her intersts. Go shopping, go to the craft store. Offer to take her, SMILE and BE NICE. I find that for every minute I spend at the shopping mall with her, I get 30 seconds of nag free blissful time. So, if I spend all of Saturday afternoon looking at dresses (depending on how good your wife looks, mine's still a babe after two kids, this is not as onerous as it seems. I get to pick out all sorts of sexy outfits for her to try on...) I get a couple hours that evening or the next day to work on my models. Step 4. The secret is not to indluge in her whims in a predictable manner. Put her on a variable reinforcement schedule to get your time. Its like the slot machines at Vegas -- they payout randomly to keep you playing longer and harder. Remember, she is probably using the same techniqes on YOU at bedtime... Step 5. Keep your eyes open for other rewards. My wife likes money too, so I tell her that I can "sell" my models. I never do, but if she thinks they are "worth" something in that very crude sense allows me time to do what I want. She almost never tells you to sell the models (built or unbuilt) because I have her convinced that they are worth something and that the longer I keep them, like a fine vintage wine, the more I can get for them. Occassionally, again on a variable reinforcement schedule, I will sell an old unwanted kit, and show her the $$$$$. Knowledge is power! On the Workbench: Plastic/Resin ships: WEM 1:700 WARSPITE -- 90% done and will soon be placed in a seascape. Hey Caroline, quality control was a bit spotty on my kit though. Wooden ships: Scratchbuilt LE SALAMANDRE in pearwood to 1:48. From the Boudriot & Berti plans. Fully framed ship. Making each frame, futtock by futtcok like the real thing. 3 years and counting on this one! Caldercraft's DIANA frigate. Scratchbuilt LA JACINTHE, fully planked, from the Boudriot plans to 1:48. Best, Kerry L. Jang, Ph.D. Dept of Psychiatry University of British Columbia Vancouver, Canada. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: Re: Wife/Modeler's, Understanding ver1.0 >> I was wondering if this "Wife/Modeler' Understanding ver.1.0" is scratch built or available in kit form??? If kit, who the hell makes it? If scratch built, where do I get the plans?? << Unfortunately, it is scratchbuilt. To get a copy of the plans, ask anyone with a supportive wife. My wife and I have been married 25 years last April 30. She has always supported my building models and associating with modelers. Before I started building models I was almost a recluse. I never noticed it, but my wife kept telling to get and see some people. I wasn't sure what she meant at the time, but that advice has made my life and marriage much better. Since I joined my modeling club, I'm very active in the club which includes going to club activities. Since joining the group I have also become quite active in IPMS on the national level. She was tickled to death when I was appointed head ship judge because that means we now go out of town at least once a year on a vacation (and to the Nationals :-) ). Anyway, the whole point here is that modeling has literally changed my life for the better. She says that since I deal diplomatically with problems in our club and in IPMS on the Contest Committee, I'm actually easier to get along with. Funny, I always felt I was a GREAT guy and VERY easy to get along with. Hhhhhhhmmmmm. I know you asked your question tongue firmly in cheek. I thought I would pass on what I have learned over 25 years of marriage with someone yet to experience such joy and what the hobby has meant to me. Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. You can now pay using your Visa / MasterCard Flagship Models - Photo Etched Details for Warships "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs!" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: DRPREUL@aol.com Subject: Re: exwives & Utopia 1st ex bounced all of my 1/48th scale aircraft (IPMS regional Winners) off of the fireplace hearth and gave them to me in 3 leaf bags. That was a lot of models (about 25). None salvageable 2nd ex said if I didn't pay more attention to her than my models she was going to leave me. You know I really don't miss her As for now its Utopia. Jeanne not only supports me but owns half of the model-building company. Now that's participation. The more models I build and sell the HAPPIER she is.$$$$$$$. Can't ask for a better partner than that, don't you think? Don & Jeanne.........J&D Productions LLC -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: DaveRiley1@aol.com Subject: Battle Stars and Decorations Jim Myers wrote: >> Is anyone out there familiar with how the ribbons and campaign stars would be displayed on a Naval Ship. << Jim, Try this site. The awards are in order of precedence. I leave it to you to find out what ribbons any given ship has been awarded. All Hands Online - January 1999:Order of Precedence http://www.mediacen.navy.mil/pubs/allhands/Jan99/Janpg38.htm Dave Riley Portsmouth, RI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Wives Should not be seen and not be heard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "J.Pasquill" Subject: Wives >> I read your comment about the Landfill Fleet with a sense of horror that even Stephen King has never been able to produce in me. My God, man, how did you cope? And I thought I had a problem with my ex ... (actually, 71,248 problems, each with George Washington's picture - but Duane has it much worse). << Still married. 5 kids, 3 of them 7 and under. Wife has multiple problems made worse by post partum depression and just being home with kids all day. She doesn't understand modeling, my need to relax, etc. It doesn't make any money either. Waste of time in her eyes. I never can do enough to help her out with the demands at home so doing anything for myself such as modeling is dangerous. Duanne had it easy. He never saw the models after his wife got to them. On several occasions when I didn't see the signs well and was particularly insensitive to my spouses inner cries for help I found nearly complete models of mine smashed to bits in the basement. The good stuff gets hidden while I seek ways to set her right. How do I cope? I don't. Denial and a sense of humor helps in all things, even this. Enjoying the modeling process must be the goal. The results may be temporary, whether by fire, natural disaster, your cat or kids, or even nutty spouse. -J -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Btbldr" Subject: Correct Priorities From the HMS Broadsword Falklands war website comes this gem - my kind of fightin' sailor! ".... SWEO had a cannon shell through his cabin but since it wasn't near his model ship he did not seem to worry....." Here is the link...http://www.btinternet.com/~broadsword82/ What are the rules about flammable glues in combat? regards Boatbldr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: J & D Productions 1/192 hulls and fittings I just thought anyone interested in obtaining some of the items in 1/192 scale from J & D Productions should know the following: These are among the absolute best items ever produced in this scale that are for sale. The level of detail is outstanding. The hulls have all the plating detail, and they are correct in all aspects of the plating and the hull shape. The pattern maker, Don Preul, uses original source material for his reference work. The fittings that are to come out soon are fantastic! The level of detail is mind boggling! They have to be seen to be believed. My personal opinion is that Don is one of the best ship model makers the world has ever seen. That is a big statement, but I have seen many ship models from all over the world and any one of Dons models compare and or exceed the quality of some of the most renowned modelers. To view some of his work, I have a few of his models on my model gallery at my web site, and there is a link to his site. Please take a look. Steve @ www.classicwarships.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Gordon E. Hogg" Subject: ARII kit needed I have a colleague here at the University of Kentucky whose son just shipped out with an EA-6B group aboard the nuclear aircraft carrier USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65). Sally asked me to help her find a "smallish" (and affordable) model of CVN-65 in current fit, and we settled on the ARII 1:800 version. We have checked hobby shops, plus likely sites all over the web, and have been in phone contact with some possible leads, but it seems there's no supply of this kit readily available, and there are doubts regarding its availability from the manufacturer before the end of 2001. Here's the fascinating part, since the subject of women and models has been on this list's collective agenda lately: the very artistic and multi-talented Sally wants to build, paint, and detail the model *herself* (with some advice here and there) and give it to her son John as a Christmas present. Three cheers! Now, if only we had something for her to build--I'm asking our community whether anyone has (or has any ready leads to) this ARII 1:800 (Kit No. 123) ENTERPRISE. I will gladly act as go-between for Sally, so please contact me. Let's help a remarkable lady's special project get underway. Thanks, as always. Gordon Lexington, Kentucky USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: "Ron Schmitt" Subject: Duane-Landfill fleet When I read of your collection going to the landfill I wept uncontrolled for 2 days. My friends had to breakdown my door to find me curled up in a fetal position clutching 1/350 resin hulls. This is the worst case of matrimony dissolution atrocity ever reported, worthy of an International Tribunal If anything good at all can come of this it is this thought--in the next couple of lifetimes, archaelogists will find the fleet in the land fill and speculate for years what civilization manned the fleet and what unrecorded battle took place. Ron -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "pwesty" Subject: The Iowa Does anyone know were there are any good picture of Iowa(bb61) now that she is on the west coast? Thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Phil M. Gollin" Subject: What's on the bench AND RECOMMENDATIONS Completed (and looking wonderful) - the WEM 1/350th H.M.S. SHEFFIELD. What's not moving; A half- (alright quarter-) complete Iron Shipwright 1/350th H.M.S. Sirius. What I want to be there; ANY 1/350th British WW2 Aircraft Carrier, Iron Shipwright 1/350th HMS Queen Elizabeth, or 1/350th Black Swan Class Sloop. What will be there; I have a Revell 1/72nd Flower Class Corvette kit, a full set of Flightpath (D J Parkins) photo-etch and white-metal parts (wonderful) and loads of books on the Flowers. A: I'm scared. The problem with getting the parts to make a " museum quality" model (and believe me the Flightpath parts are brilliant) is doing them justice. I know I'm going to love it when I finish it, but getting the nerve up to start it is the second problem. B: The first real problem (which allows me to worry about item "A") is WHICH Flower to model ????? ANY IDEAS (WITH REASONS, E.G. BATTLE HISTORY OR COLOUR SCHEME OR?????) WOULD BE APPRECIATED. C: Real minor point, at that scale the lack of "people" really shows. It will have to be a "display" piece if I can't find a source of 1/72nd seamen for a diorama (probably alongside). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Mike Leonard" Subject: Re: Understanding Wife One of the members of the local model club is getting remarried in a few months. Wife #1 was very non-supportive when it came to his cherished hobbies, so we suggested getting wife #2 to sign a prenuptial agreement to permit him to build to his heart's content... MWL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: "Poore, Devin" Subject: MV Lenses I've heard MV lenses mentioned a few times on this list and other places as good items to use in searchlights. After seeing a model or two with them employed, I really like the look. They really capture that "dead" smoky color of the full sized lights. Who is a good internet supplier of these lenses? And does anyone know what color I should be looking for, and what sizes (I build 1/350th scale). Thanks, Devin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: "Jens H. Brandal" Subject: Last voyage of the Scharnhorst Good news for those who do not speak Norwegian; the programme was produced in cooperation with BBC TimeWatch, and the History Channel was also mentioned. The programme dedicated half an hour to the history of the Scharnhorst, the hunt for her and the battle. The remaining half was about the search including video images of the wreck taken by a Remotely Operated Vehicle. She had taken eleven torpedo hits, and the front 60 metres of the hull had been blown away, thereby sinking rapidly. When interviewing the veterans on board the British destroyers they were still moved when they told that they had to get out of the area, switched off the searchlights in order not to give any false hopes to the ones left in the water... I can only hope it shows on a TV near you soon. Jens -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: "Bruce Buchner" Subject: Re. Wives I'm still on my first and only wife. Her method of keeping me on the relativly straight and narrow over these many years was to inform me that if we ever divorced her share of the community property would include the left fuselage half of every airplane kit and the left hull half of every ship. Since I seem to accumulate kits far faster than i build them for some reason this was a horifying prospect so I do my best to keep her. Bruce Buchner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: On the Work Bench Surrounded by a sea of artwork, files and text; working like a dog so that the material for Camouflage Volume Three will go to layout in a weeks time. One hundred and eighty pieces of art with eight pages in colour, and with a bit of luck the Leader Codrington in her 1940 dazzle camouflage will be included in the addendum section. And THAT is what is on the workbench; all the many ships in camouflage that modelers will be inspired to build. The staff at W R PRESS will then take a day off before putting together the next book in the Warship Perspective series, which will cover the Flush deck destroyers as they appeared in World War Two. Look out for PINK four pipers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) From: WRPRESSINC@aol.com Subject: Re: Book on Moniters Dear Dimi, Please call me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) From: Ken Hoolihan Subject: Re: Goeben I would definitely buy a 1/350 Goeben but probably not a 1/200 model of the same ship. I don't have the space in my model room for 1/200 battleships and probably couldn't afford to buy it anyway. While I'm on the subject of 1/350 WW1 ships - when is some enterprising resin kit maker (are you listening Steve) going to release a model of the all-time, best-looking warship in the world, bar none - HMS TIGER (1916). Is there anyone else out there who would like a kit of this beautiful ship - even 1/700 scale would be OK. Ken Hoolihan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) From: NAVYDAZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Battle stars and decorations As far as I have seen, ships display their ribbons just the same as a crew member would on their chest. Same order - most important at the top left working down to the lesser ribbons on the bottom right of the rows of ribbons. Navydaze - Naval & Aviation Artist http://members.aol.com/NAVYDAZE/INDEX.HTML -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23) From: "William W, Yaun, Jr." Subject: Dockyard Model Company Current address from the Nautical Research Guild web site is: Dockyard Model Company P.O. Box 108 Florissant, Colorado 80816 Warren -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: NEWS HI: After discovering that I had not left all my spare money in San Francisco, I went down to AMPS (Armor Modeling and Preservation Society) Annual in Harve de Grace this past weekend. You know, those are the guys whose hulls have treads where the bilge keels should be :-) And who do i discover, but Ted Paris, Mr Iron Shipwright himself, with what else, a table full of ship models. I scored one of his new USS New Mexico's, a real nice looking kit with one piece full hull heave enough to be classified a lethal weapon. I also grabbed a USS Pittsburgh which is also extremely nice, and best yet, gone are the 2 page instruction sets that had a few drawings showing about half the parts depicted. The instructions are about a dozen pages with 32 computer generated figures with accompanying text showing each step in building the model. There is also a detailed parts list with pictures of each part. A Major step forward for IS. The other bit of news, which I can spill the beans on as it was printed in Ted's latest price list/catalog is that he is doing a USS Langley in 1/350!!!! Lets start saving the shekels!!! He also had a USS West Virginia also full hull that looked quite nice. Ran into both Dave Judy and Robert Lockie there and saw some truly fantastic workmanship on the tables; some dioramas that would have any museum curator trying to decide how many body parts he could afford to do without to obtain them!!!! Well the rest of the money is gone; the credit card has scorch marks from whipping in and out of the wallet and I really need to shut down this dam computer and start sanding resin!!! Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model club & SMMLcon Infomation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Small Warships SIG The latest issue of 'ESCORT' is now posted on www.brown.abelgratis.co.uk I hope you all enjoy it! Regards Les Brown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Bill Gruner Subject: Pacific Front: NEW ITEMS IN We now have in stock the excellent Samek Models 1/700 scale resin kit of German heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen. Price is $49.00, truly a great value for such a nice kit. Texas and Eskimo should be out by late May or early June, according to Michal Samek. Their new production facilities should be in operation now. We should have a supply of the superb YS Miniatures 1/350 resin kit of Greek armored cruiser Averof. Please e-mail, fax or call to reserve one of these excellent kits; price is $285.00 + shipping. The next YS release will be USS Oregon BB-3. We now have in stock the new MB Models/Blue Water Navy 1/350 resin kit of a late war, square-bridge Fletcher class destroyer, USS Johnston, DD557. Price is $98.00 + shipping. Typical excellent MB quality. We should be seeing the new Classic warships pictorials on Kongo class IJN battleships (with color cover!), and Lexington class carriers, in about 10 days. Classic now has a new resin caster, and we should see Steve's 1/350 and 1/700 resin kits in greater supply soon. Next 1/700 re-issues will be San Francisco '44, Helena and St. Louis. In 1/350 we should be seeing Helena, Brooklyn, Tennessee '41 and California '41, within a month or 2. A new item that will be of interest to 1/700 US Navy modelers is the Clipper Models set No.1207, US Navy 8-inch Mark 9 machined brass gun barrels. Price is $14.00 for ten (10) barrels. These will work well on all USN treaty heavy cruisers. We have received a very large shipment of Kombrig 1/700 resin kits, the biggest we have ever received. Please call to find out what we have. Kombrig (apparently spelled Combrig in Russia) is coming out with many new kits, including the Russian Sverdlov class light cruisers, and is also considering doing a line of 1/350 resin kits. They have asked for our input, and we have suggested a number of turn-of-the-century Russian, British, American and French warships. Let us know what you would like, we can relay a consensus of requests to them. We will soon become a full-line Kombrig dealer, and will be buying directly from Russia, so availability should improve, and prices may drop a little. Watch for our new May UPATE, which should be posted on our website, and on the Steel Navy website, by this weekend. It will mailed on Monday. We have had several requests for the new range of White Ensign warship paints, but have decided to not carry any new lines of paint. Please contact John and Caroline at WEM, you should be able to order these direct from them and have them shipped at fairly low cost. Norbert at NNT Hobby Shop has informed us that the HP 1/700 resin kits are available from them, and and we will be checking into ordering a supply of these. Some of our customers have inquired as to the availability of these kits, and up to this time have not been able to get them directly from the manufacturer. Thank you, Bill Gruner Pacifc Front Hobbies http://www.pacificfront.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://www.smml.org.uk Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume